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Oberst Hajj
12-02-2009, 22:42
I just got the preview artwork for the WWII Series 3 miniatures from Andrea and some from Merlin Dex. Enjoy!


Yakoview Yak-1
Sous Lieutenant Albert Durand
Groupe de Chasse 3 Normandy, WA 1
Voenno-Vozdushnye Sily

http://www.wingsofwar.org/UserImages/reviews/WWIIseriesIII/S3a.jpg

Kawasaki Ki-61-I-KAIc Hien
Shosa Teruhiko Kobayashi
244 Sentai
Dai-Nippon Teikoku Rikugun Koku Hombu

http://www.wingsofwar.org/UserImages/reviews/WWIIseriesIII/S3d.jpg


Reggiane Re.200 1CB Falco II
Lieutenant Richard Vaccarl
Squadrigila Special Operation Bictorious
Fegia Aeronautics

http://www.wingsofwar.org/UserImages/reviews/WWIIseriesIII/S3c.jpg

Curtiss P-40F Warhawk
Sergent Chef Jean Giscion
Groupe de Chasse 11 / 5 "Lafayette"
French Air Force

http://www.wingsofwar.org/UserImages/reviews/WWIIseriesIII/S3b.jpg

Curtiss P-40E Warhawk
Squadron Leader David Lee Hill
2nd Pursuit Squadron "Panda Bears"
American Volunteer Group
Chung-Hua Min-Kuo K'ung-Chun

http://www.wingsofwar.org/UserImages/reviews/WWIIseriesIII/S3e.jpg


New Photos

In the background
http://www.gioconomicon.net/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/max/Lucca_Games_2010/WowAnteprimaLucca/normal_IMG_8517.JPG

http://www.gioconomicon.net/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/max/Lucca_Games_2010/WowAnteprimaLucca/normal_IMG_8518.JPG

http://www.gioconomicon.net/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/max/Norimberga_2011/WingsOfWar/norimberga_IMG_1255.jpg

http://www.gioconomicon.net/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/max/Norimberga_2011/WingsOfWar/norimberga_IMG_1254.jpg

Final photos of the minis as they will be published:

P-40

http://www.wingsofwar.it/backoffice/cms/images/zoom7303.jpg

http://www.wingsofwar.it/backoffice/cms/images/zoom7307.jpg

http://www.wingsofwar.it/backoffice/cms/images/zoom7308.jpg

Yak-1

http://www.wingsofwar.it/backoffice/cms/images/zoom7309.jpg

http://www.wingsofwar.it/backoffice/cms/images/zoom7304.jpg

http://www.wingsofwar.it/backoffice/cms/images/zoom7310.jpg

Ki-61

http://www.wingsofwar.it/backoffice/cms/images/zoom7305.jpg

http://www.wingsofwar.it/backoffice/cms/images/zoom7311.jpg

http://www.wingsofwar.it/backoffice/cms/images/zoom7312.jpg

R.2001

http://www.wingsofwar.it/backoffice/cms/images/zoom7306.jpg

http://www.wingsofwar.it/backoffice/cms/images/zoom7314.jpg

http://www.wingsofwar.it/backoffice/cms/images/zoom7313.jpg

http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic1039433_lg.jpg

Greywolf
12-02-2009, 23:48
interesting planes not really ones I am familiar with. Maybe the P-40

is there a fourth plane?

Cheers
GW

Oberst Hajj
12-03-2009, 00:20
Just added the forth plane and another P-40 to the first post.

The Blue Baron
12-03-2009, 02:22
I like the colour scheme on the kawasaki!

Carl_Brisgamer
12-03-2009, 05:28
Good choices, though I would have preferred the Ki43 over the Ki61. It would make my day if the third P-40 wore Australian colours, but that is likely too much to ask for.

bsmith13
12-03-2009, 07:00
Yeehaw! I'm excited about these planes!

Scoop
12-03-2009, 10:48
Don't really know what to think about it. I was hoping for some popular planes. I like the Kawasaki though.

Oberst Hajj
12-03-2009, 21:42
I think the P-40 will be pretty popular as well as the Yak. I am a little surprised by the Reggiane Re.200 1CB Falco II. I think it is a neat plane and I understand the desire to get an Italian plane out there... but it was made in very limited numbers and did not see wide spread use.

I also would have really liked to see some dive bombers for the Allied side in this set to counter the ones in Series 2.

One think we have to keep in mind though, is Andrea has already said the Nexus wanted to delay the release of the higher speed aircraft (he mentioned this will be a boxed set) in order to get multi-engine rules/miniatures out first. It's a rough trade off, but if they can get that set out in a timely manner, I think we would all be happy.

Angiolillo
12-03-2009, 22:12
The Reggiane is very useful as an Axis plane for the Western front. There are not so many besides the Bf.109 E in the up to 600 km/h range.

Big Al
12-03-2009, 22:17
I agree about the Reggiane. I like the P40s, they are going to be a very popular model.

Naharaht
12-04-2009, 05:44
If you want a British dive bomber you will have to use a Hurricane IIB, which could carry 2x250lbs or 2x500lbs bombs, but they slowed them down.

The Curtiss P-40B and P-40-E could also carry bombs. The P-40E could carry 3 bombs up to a total of 2000lbs.

Oberst Hajj
12-04-2009, 06:48
Yeah, almost all of the fighters could carry bombs of some type. I was looking for actual dive bombers... Like the TBF Avenger or SBD Dauntless.

Wolfmanjack
12-04-2009, 06:51
These all look great! Can't wait!!!

costampede
12-04-2009, 07:50
I am pleased to see the Ki-61 "Tony" :D

Naharaht
12-04-2009, 12:35
Yes, later in WW2 most of the fighters were converted to give them the ability to carry bombs.

Specialist dive-bombers were never really popular with the British. At the start of WW2 all they had in that category were a few Blackburn Skuas in the Fleet Air Arm.

aarondpjames
12-05-2009, 11:58
Kaufy is going to be thrilled with the P-40's, he's mad for them!!

evilsam
12-09-2009, 09:47
Love the P40, bummed no Dauntless... funny how that it the only dive bomber not in model form yet.

Doug
12-10-2009, 01:57
Personaly they are all good to me but I realy like the Flying tigers P40

kaufschtick
02-10-2010, 22:31
Kaufy is going to be thrilled with the P-40's, he's mad for them!!

Those sure look great, although I'm already getting a pretty good batch of P-40s in 1/144 scale.

Recently, I got two P-40B/Cs from Hobby Link Japan. Those are going to be Flying Tigers. I wouldn't mind getting two more pairs of these, but at $48.XX a pair including shipping, that gets a little pricey. Especially seeing as they are just an unpainted, kinda mold deal, complete with a ton of flash. They take a lot of time just to trim up, and you have to be real careful with your exacto knife too, they're easy to foul up by making an error in the trim stage.

I already have a pair of P-40E US Desert "Torch" color scheme ready and in play, as well as a pair of P-40E in early war CBI colors (actually, I recently re-painted these to match Col. Robert Scott's P-40E, "Old Exterminator").

I have another pair of P-40E s that are going to be painted up as "Aleutian Tigers", like this one...

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t163/kaufschtick/GMP3502703.jpg

I'll have to try my hand at hand painting the Tiger Head, that ought to be real fun!

Then I have a pair of P-40Ns done, in British Desert/Med colors. Those were from Bandai, and I have two more pairs of those I am going to repaint, one pair Aussie and one pair Ruskie.

Then, that leaves me with two more pairs of Arii P-40Ns, which don't look too bad to me unbuilt, but I've heard many an unflattering comment about their kits.

One pair is going to be 89th Fighter Squadron like these,

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t163/kaufschtick/p40fh_5.jpg

Again, I'll try my hand at hand painting the skulls. Like the Aleutian Tiger, I've built these in 1/72 scale already, so I'll have a pretty good guide to go from.

The last pair of P-40Ns...I'm not really sure yet, but I'm leaning toward doing a second pair of Aussie ones.

Oberst Hajj
02-10-2010, 23:22
Rob, you might think about hand painting the nose art on to decal sheets and then applying this as a decal. That would give you a flat surface to work on and could yield better and more consistent results.

check6
02-11-2010, 05:40
i'm hoping they do litvyak's yak.

also the ki-61 is pretty random as it is a later war fighter and the game is called dawn of world war II.

krolik
02-11-2010, 22:58
i'm hoping they do litvyak's yak.

also the ki-61 is pretty random as it is a later war fighter and the game is called dawn of world war II.

I think it's more of a speed issue. THe KI 61 had a top speed more in line with the other DoW planes.

afilter
02-12-2010, 08:43
Really not thrilled with the choices...I suppose they are going with the worldwide appeal.

Hmmm...maybe I will have to go refresh my history, I though France was basically out of the war in 1940 and they will not how as many planes a the U.S.????? No Dauntless:confused:

Very very disappointed.....

Depending on the other paint scheme...maybe interested in 2 models form this set.

Oberst Hajj
02-12-2010, 11:34
I'll pick up one of each just to have, but I'll not be getting the full set. It's a shame too, I have every single WWI mini out to date with multiples of a few of them. For WWII, I've got all 16 of series 1, but series 2 & 3 will be just a plane or two here and there :( I've very glad there is a decent alternative in the 1/144 scale.

kaufschtick
02-22-2010, 11:11
Rob, you might think about hand painting the nose art on to decal sheets and then applying this as a decal. That would give you a flat surface to work on and could yield better and more consistent results.

I was talking to a buddy of mine about this, and he said our local hobby shop has a decale sheet that I can load into my printer, then print off images saved off the web onto it, reduced to size of course!

I may be heading down there today to pick up a couple shhets, thanks for the "heads up" on this! :cool:


I'll pick up one of each just to have, but I'll not be getting the full set. It's a shame too, I have every single WWI mini out to date with multiples of a few of them. For WWII, I've got all 16 of series 1, but series 2 & 3 will be just a plane or two here and there :( I've very glad there is a decent alternative in the 1/144 scale.

I just finished up 3 of the Edwardo Ju-87 Stukas, 2 Bs and 1 D model, Battle of Britian colors.

Also, I was able to build two of the Cafe Reo build and paint them yourself He-111s (again, BoB colors) to match the 1 Cafe Reo pre-build and pre painted BoB He-111 I picked up at my local hobby shop some time ago. Amazingly, I actually like the ones I did over the pre-painted one! I'd never had that happen before! Good day at the modeling table for me, I guess.

I'll have to recount, but that brings me up to about the 170 (ballpark) on WWII 1/144 scale planes I have that are ready for Wings of War action. I still have quite a few lined up waiting for their turn on the modeling table, which will include 3 more Japanese Val dive bombers I just picked up from Hobby Link Japan. Those were a steal too; they come in a two pack, 1 Val and 1 Grace torpedo bomber for 500 Yen! That comes to something like $6.50 USD! That's a steal for just the Val alone, not to mention I'll get 3 more Graces (which I have no idea what I'm going to do with), as I grabbed 3 of these.

I do bombers in groups of 3, and fighters in pairs.

Come to think of it, I was out at Dayton the other week, at the Air Force Museum, and in their craft shop, I saw they had plenty of the Minicraft B-25s for about $13.00 each. I'm going to grab 3 more of those to do up as the solid nosed gunship versions. I did my 3 up as Doolittle raiders (even though it was the wrong model of B-25), but the kits gave you the option to build them as the solid nosed gunship versions. They make those kits in limited print runs, so I'll have to get back out that way soon, before they start to disappear. At least on those, I won't have to paint the glass nose sections again!

afilter
02-22-2010, 11:19
I was talking to a buddy of mine about this, and he said our local hobby shop has a decale sheet that I can load into my printer, then print off images saved off the web onto it, reduced to size of course!

I may be heading down there today to pick up a couple shhets, thanks for the "heads up" on this! :cool:

I have used decal paper on many occassions for other projects...don't forget to apply sealer once printed. They make special sealer for decal paper, but really any clear spray will work. If you do not seal the decals the ink disolves/smears when you get the paper wet for application.

One thing I was thinking about doing is taking a decal sheet from an existing model and scanning it to proper scale and printing on my own decal paper...then you would have a complete set of decals for the particular plane.

kaufschtick
02-22-2010, 11:35
I have used decal paper on many occassions for other projects...don't forget to apply sealer once printed. They make special sealer for decal paper, but really any clear spray will work. If you do not seal the decals the ink disolves/smears when you get the paper wet for application.

One thing I was thinking about doing is taking a decal sheet from an existing model and scanning it to proper scale and printing on my own decal paper...then you would have a complete set of decals for the particular plane.

Yo! Drop your linnen and start your grinnin! :D Great idea! Thanks! :)

I know I have extra Skull Head decales from my 1/72 scale P-40N! I can just scan those, reduce the size, and Bingo!

Lordy, I wish my 1/72 P-40E with the Aluetian Tiger wasn't built now!:p I could've just scanned that.

Yeah, my buddy told me that there was a spray I'd have to get too. I think I'll hop off of here, and ramble on down there and get this stuff. Be back tonight. I'll see if I can't get some pics up of my Stukas, they came out real nice.

afilter
02-22-2010, 11:38
Yep, I have a number of unbuilt aircraft kits in 1/72.....My plan is to scan all decals before I use them. ;)

kaufschtick
02-22-2010, 11:43
Here's my basement "stash", about 45 1/72 scale planes, and something like 50-60 1/144 scale ones. Scratch three of those 5 Stuka's though, and one of those white boxes had 2 Cafe Reo He-111s in it; those are now built! I think I have well over $500 USd in 1/172 kits alone! My wife says I have a problem...she may be right. :p

Off to the hobby shop!:D

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t163/kaufschtick/144new067.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t163/kaufschtick/144new068.jpg

Scoop
02-22-2010, 14:32
My goodness ;) I want to see pictures of every single plane :)

sparty
02-22-2010, 15:24
The P-40s are cool, but I think the gem for me would be the Yak! :) Iconic Russian cannon fodder!

Kodiak
03-11-2010, 10:30
When are these due out?

Oberst Hajj
03-11-2010, 19:14
I personally think we will be lucky to have them for Christmas :( Sure hope I'm wrong though!

The Blue Baron
03-12-2010, 00:45
Christmas 2010?;)

When series 2 arrives later this year I suppose we won't see series 3 until 2011...:(

Kodiak
03-12-2010, 09:15
I am really looking forward to the YAK and the P-40. I hope they come out with an IL-2 to balance the Stukas. Cant wait for them to come out either.

Firebrand
04-11-2010, 10:04
I think it will be great, more ground attack planes, but Il2 and Avenger are NOT dive bombers. They were succesful planes, but did not fly like that. I wonder if they will introduce new manoeuvre decks and the hardness with the Il-2. German pilots called her "zementbomber" for some reason...

Rollout
05-01-2010, 23:27
Yeah, almost all of the fighters could carry bombs of some type. I was looking for actual dive bombers... Like the TBF Avenger or SBD Dauntless.

Yeah, I'm kinda surprised the Dauntless at least didn't make it into Series 3. With the Zero, Val, Wildcat, and Dauntless, you can at least begin to do some serious missions situated around the carrier battles. And two planes with "shark mouths" as part of the paint schemes to boot. C'mon. The Flying Tiger I get, but a Yak with one, too??? I've seen models blazoned with slogans and dedications from a workers' group that sponsored the plane's construction. Let's see some of that!

I was hoping that the Series releases for WWII would be tied together thematically. If there is a method behind how they select the models for a release, I'd like to be in on the secret! :)

Don't get me wrong, though. I'm "in" for getting these!

Oberst Hajj
05-02-2010, 01:24
In the interview I did with Andrea, he talks a little on how the planes are selected for minis.

guzzoid
06-08-2010, 19:46
Yeah, I'm kinda surprised the Dauntless at least didn't make it into Series 3. With the Zero, Val, Wildcat, and Dauntless, you can at least begin to do some serious missions situated around the carrier battles. And two planes with "shark mouths" as part of the paint schemes to boot. C'mon. The Flying Tiger I get, but a Yak with one, too??? I've seen models blazoned with slogans and dedications from a workers' group that sponsored the plane's construction. Let's see some of that!

I was hoping that the Series releases for WWII would be tied together thematically. If there is a method behind how they select the models for a release, I'd like to be in on the secret! :)

Don't get me wrong, though. I'm "in" for getting these!

I agree the dauntless is a glaring ommission here. I am scratching my head over this one.

Doug
06-08-2010, 22:44
Yes I too think that the Daunles is a glaring ommission. I was hopeing that when they started with the WW2 aircraft they would focus on what I consinder the two most significant air battles of WW2 that being the "Battle of Brittain" and "Midway".

guzzoid
06-09-2010, 03:51
It seems that they are focused on pre-pearl harbor right now.

LewdDude
06-29-2010, 10:15
when is series 3 due on the shelf??? I gots to have a whole squad of them there P40's!!! Viva la AVG! ;-)

Galland
06-29-2010, 11:34
maybe for your winter,
So lets write this card to santa!!

Doug
07-10-2010, 03:32
I think in series 4 its time for some more planes for Battle of Midway, Europe has been covered enough for starters. What markings are the 3rd P40 in Australia?

Olt^Jones
07-10-2010, 03:38
great news!

i like very much kawasaki, p40 warhawk and last but not least reggiane! ;) 'cause im italian and i feel proud wondering and playing that airplane! :D

HardRock
07-10-2010, 13:53
A Flying Tiger P-40 is just what I neede to get out of the doldrums. As my avatar can show.

Henry

rickcundiff
07-10-2010, 14:11
I love the Yak, agree with the Kawasaki, understand the Italian plane and love the P-40. Did the P-40 get sent to Finland? I think it would be a fine choice paint scheme. I think the Dauntless and the Il-2 should be next, too. I hope they are out in time for Christmas 2010.

AceBerger
07-12-2010, 18:35
Lovin' the Flying Tiger P-40, will pick me up some of those.

Doug
07-24-2010, 01:26
Angililo what version will the 3rd P40 WarHawhawk be? Australian would be nice!

Angiolillo
07-26-2010, 13:55
The three will be Flying Tigers, US in Tunisia, Free France in North Africa.

darkeldar70
08-05-2010, 06:02
spero proprio di vedere almeno un aerosilurante ed un F4-U corsaire bellissimmooooo

i hope to see 1 torpedo launcher and the best plane F4-u corsaire

un idea per il grande mentore ......angiolillo

una special version wwII miniatures con dentro 1 f4-u + aerosilurante + regole per le torpedini ed un template con nave degli USA ,una bella scatola e vai grande regalo di natale!!!!

Olt^Jones
08-05-2010, 06:31
un idea per il grande mentore ......angiolillo

una special version wwII miniatures con dentro 1 f4-u + aerosilurante + regole per le torpedini ed un template con nave degli USA ,una bella scatola e vai grande regalo di natale!!!!
translation:
"an idea for the great mentor Andrea..."
"a special version of WWII miniatures including 1 F4-U corsair plus 1 torpedo launcher,rules for torpedoes and a US Navy templates.
a big new present christmas box!!!"

Naharaht
08-05-2010, 09:24
Are the weapon stats on the Yak cards printed incorrectly? They are AC at short range and C at long range.

brugerstein
08-05-2010, 12:54
OK, strighten me out on this. The Flying Tiger paint job lists it as "Tex" Hill of 2nd Pursuit. In my research, the 2nd Pursuit had a blue band not a red band (3rd pursuit) and Hill was assigned plane # 48. Since there were originally 99 P-40s (B/C) and this is a P-40E, how high did the numbers go? Osprey shows a plane with the number 106.

Anav
08-05-2010, 14:55
Cant wait to get those planes!!

Oberst Hajj
08-05-2010, 23:21
Are the weapon stats on the Yak cards printed incorrectly? They are AC at short range and C at long range.

The Yak-1 was armed with a 20mm canon and a 12.7mm MG. At close range, that would be one C for the 20mm and one A for the MG. To get the long range damage you halve the values. The C becomes a B and the A stays an A (the smallest amount of damage). An A and B damage is equivalent to a C, so that was used to lower the number damage chits needed in a game.

Oberst Hajj
08-05-2010, 23:42
OK, strighten me out on this. The Flying Tiger paint job lists it as "Tex" Hill of 2nd Pursuit. In my research, the 2nd Pursuit had a blue band not a red band (3rd pursuit) and Hill was assigned plane # 48. Since there were originally 99 P-40s (B/C) and this is a P-40E, how high did the numbers go? Osprey shows a plane with the number 106.

From what I can find, the 2nd did have a blue band as you say. Osprey shows this as Tex's plane:

Olt^Jones
08-06-2010, 00:49
when approximatly they hit the shops?

schoon
08-07-2010, 13:23
Great mix of miniatures for this release!

I'm looking forward to all of them, but I think the Yak-1 will have a special place in my collection.

Oberst Hajj
08-07-2010, 14:13
when approximatly they hit the shops?

Some time this year is all we have heard. Based on other releases, I would say around December or March of 2011 :(

Naharaht
08-08-2010, 12:35
The Yak-1 was armed with a 20mm canon and a 12.7mm MG. At close range, that would be one C for the 20mm and one A for the MG. To get the long range damage you halve the values. The C becomes a B and the A stays an A (the smallest amount of damage). An A and B damage is equivalent to a C, so that was used to lower the number damage chits needed in a game.

Thank you for this explanation but then why are the Dewoitine De 520 weapon statistics BC/B ?

Oberst Hajj
08-08-2010, 15:13
The Dewoitine De 520 had:

Short range
1x 20mm = C
4x 7.5mm = B

Long range
1x 20mm = B
4x 7.5mm = A

Andrea says the B and C are of equivalent damage values, with the C having larger damage number and more zeros then the B. I can only assume that for this plane he decided that the C from the 20mm went down to an A (half of a B or C). The two As would have made a single B for long range. By having the flexibility of the C going to either an A or a B, he is able to fine tune things a little more to his liking. Again, these are just my thoughts.

darkeldar70
08-09-2010, 05:16
ok any one know when we can play with a WW2 heavy bombers???

Oberst Hajj
08-09-2010, 07:34
Officially, I don't think heavy bombers are going to come out. If you make the jump to 1/144 scale, you can play with them now. We are supposed to get tactical bombers for WWII some time late this year.

schoon
08-09-2010, 08:09
Officially, I don't think heavy bombers are going to come out. If you make the jump to 1/144 scale, you can play with them now. We are supposed to get tactical bombers for WWII some time late this year.
Oh, I wouldn't be so sure of that. You know what they say about "never say never!"

On the other hand, I'd agreed entirely that we will not see them anytime soon...

Oberst Hajj
08-09-2010, 12:36
Well, since the WWII bomber expansion that is going to be released does not have them in it... I highly doubt they are going to make another expansion just to cover them. I could be wrong though.

schoon
08-09-2010, 12:46
Well, since the WWII bomber expansion that is going to be released does not have them in it... I highly doubt they are going to make another expansion just to cover them. I could be wrong though.
While I certainly have no real knowledge of any official plans, I would think that after the boxed expansion is out, all you would need for the heavies would be a miniature box (like the balloons for WWI) that also had the aircraft card.

However, I don't yet have Flight of the Giants, so there could be holes in that theory that I can't see yet.

darkeldar70
08-09-2010, 23:06
the 1/144 airplane are too much expansive and its not simple to find it in italy ill wait and hope for news!!

darkeldar70
08-10-2010, 08:12
ok guys look at day 1 video of FFG at gencon 2010 you can see a sho of ww1 series4 and ww2 series 3

David Kuijt
08-10-2010, 10:49
ok guys look at day 1 video of FFG at gencon 2010 you can see a sho of ww1 series4 and ww2 series 3

Right -- 0.7 seconds worth, around 1:20 into the video. What a tease.

merlindex
08-10-2010, 18:08
Look at the beauties !!!

Serie 3 WoWar WW2 (http://merlindex.free.fr/spip/spip.php?breve56)

CappyTom
08-12-2010, 02:49
Look at the beauties !!!

Serie 3 WoWar WW2 (http://merlindex.free.fr/spip/spip.php?breve56)

Sweet looking good. Can't wait for them.

Tom

Hanomag
08-26-2010, 15:15
I can't wait for series 3 myself. I've always liked the P-40 so I'm happy to see it made.

As for the Heavy Bombers....I think we will see them. I imagine at least one as a trial run anyways. In the Star Wars collectible minis game they made a scale AT-AT, and D&D collectible minis has made a number of scale Dragons, so I don't see how an Avro Lancaster is unlikely. Which BTW, I saw a restored Lancaster at a WWII airshow this past summer....very loud when it flies overhead.....but very cool as there are only 2 left that still fly.

-H

trumpetman52
09-22-2010, 21:37
Does anyone have any idea of a release date for the World War II Series 3 miniatures?
trumpetman52

g.paoletti
09-23-2010, 00:39
Great models ...

... any rumors about a 4th series after bombers?

I'd like to see "Black sheeps" Corsair and last biplanes.

G.

kaufschtick
09-23-2010, 22:59
I can't wait for series 3 myself. I've always liked the P-40 so I'm happy to see it made. -H

Me Too. :)

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t163/kaufschtick/Allied%20Wings%20of%20War/144Allies010.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t163/kaufschtick/Allied%20Wings%20of%20War/144Allies012.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t163/kaufschtick/Allied%20Wings%20of%20War/144Allies045.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t163/kaufschtick/Tigers/Tigers008.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t163/kaufschtick/Tigers/Tigers011.jpg


Look at the beauties !!!

Serie 3 WoWar WW2 (http://merlindex.free.fr/spip/spip.php?breve56)

Nice! :cool:


"War makes no one great !"

Amen to that brother.

Big Al
09-24-2010, 00:27
Great models ...

... any rumors about a 4th series after bombers?

I'd like to see "Black sheeps" Corsair and last biplanes.

G.

Definitely 'The Last Biplanes' for me. That would be fantastic!

Angiolillo
10-29-2010, 07:25
Previews of all 12 of them here:

http://www.gioconomicon.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=5620

http://www.gioconomicon.net/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/max/Essen2010/WOW2/normal_ProtWOW%20II%203Seri_06d_1024.jpg

Dom S
10-29-2010, 07:56
Very nice indeed - must admit I'm particularly taken with the Reggiane - a beautiful plane that you seem to have gotten spot on.... :D

check6
10-29-2010, 08:08
will you ever make 1/200 WWII decals for these beauties Dom?

Dom S
10-29-2010, 08:12
Very unlikely I'm afraid - the WW2 game's never really taken off in the UK (meaning they'd be unlikely to be viable from a sales viewpoint), and I have a hefty 1/600 WW2 collection myself, so there's no appeal as a "pet" project. With the WWI sheets I can live with the odd dismal failure on sales (hello Nieuports....) because they interest me enough to write it off as "hobby" time and live with it. For the WW2 ones I'm simply not that interested myself, so would need to be sure they'd actually sell, which I'm not, sorry....

Naharaht
10-29-2010, 08:56
Do we have a release date for the series 3 models?

Maniac
10-29-2010, 11:36
I think the P-40 will be pretty popular as well as the Yak. I am a little surprised by the Reggiane Re.200 1CB Falco II. I think it is a neat plane and I understand the desire to get an Italian plane out there... but it was made in very limited numbers and did not see wide spread use.

I also would have really liked to see some dive bombers for the Allied side in this set to counter the ones in Series 2.

One think we have to keep in mind though, is Andrea has already said the Nexus wanted to delay the release of the higher speed aircraft (he mentioned this will be a boxed set) in order to get multi-engine rules/miniatures out first. It's a rough trade off, but if they can get that set out in a timely manner, I think we would all be happy.

If that means the P-38 is coming sooner than later I will be a happy boy.

postal_bob
10-30-2010, 06:59
Since there are no Luftwaffe planes coming out in series 3, I might be interested in starting a Soviet or Italian fighter group. Does anyone have the Yak-1 and Falco stats handy?

Ed2
10-30-2010, 21:22
It looks like that P40 and Yak 1 will get me to try DoW.

Foobs
10-30-2010, 22:10
Don't really know what to think about it. I was hoping for some popular planes. I like the Kawasaki though.

What is more popular than the P40!!??!

So glad to see Eastern Front miniatures coming out as well.

I guess Pacific folks will be glad to see the Tony, though it isn't my thing really. The rest however! Yee-haw

Ed2
10-31-2010, 09:54
I would really like to see the
Vought F4U and the Polish PZL 11 added.

Oberst Hajj
11-02-2010, 21:40
I would really like to see the
Vought F4U and the Polish PZL 11 added.

No F4U until the high speed set.


What is more popular than the P40!!??!

So glad to see Eastern Front miniatures coming out as well.

I guess Pacific folks will be glad to see the Tony, though it isn't my thing really. The rest however! Yee-haw

The pacific theater is the only one getting consistent releases. With Series 3 we could play a limited campaign from 1940 through 1945.


If that means the P-38 is coming sooner than later I will be a happy boy.

Not going to happen as the P-38 would have to be in the High Speed set... not the multi-engine set.

Oberst Hajj
11-02-2010, 22:02
Some more photos from Andrea.

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=6&pictureid=5476

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=6&pictureid=5477

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=6&pictureid=5478

g.paoletti
11-03-2010, 00:59
GREAT models!!

I can't wait, is there any news about release date?

G.

MayorJim
11-05-2010, 12:58
I would really like to see the
Vought F4U and the Polish PZL 11 added.

I second that...I also really like the Reggiane Re.2001 CN Falco II
which Andrea posted a pic.

Oberst Hajj
11-15-2010, 03:58
Updated photos in first post.

Doug
11-16-2010, 00:30
Pity no Australian P40's still it looks like the French model will be easist to repain in Australian markings. The Flying Tigers P40 looks great as well.

RonaldRS
12-03-2010, 11:24
I LIKE'EM can't whate to see them in rill life!! :)

EnemyAce
12-05-2010, 02:32
Still no word on a US release date?

CappyTom
12-05-2010, 04:33
Here's a link I found, it might have already been posted but here it is again then. There is some nice photos.

http://www.gioconomicon.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=5620

And by the way, haven't seen any pre-orders yet:(.

Tom

EnemyAce
12-05-2010, 06:47
Neither have I. Shenanigans....

CappyTom
01-17-2011, 18:43
Anyone know any thing about a release date yet? I guess I'm getting hungry.

MayorJim
01-19-2011, 15:20
Tom,

I'm thinking not until March '11 based on previous posts...I like the Italian ones a lot...

Oberst Hajj
02-06-2011, 07:55
Some new photos added to the first post!

The Red Baron
02-06-2011, 10:06
Dang the luck, why do they have to make all these cool planes ? I'm trying to keep away from the WWII planes !!!!

CappyTom
02-06-2011, 15:05
Some new photos added to the first post!

Thanks Colonel it just makes me hungry-er.

Stormkahn
06-21-2011, 22:57
August 2011 then...

:fokker:

BobP
06-24-2011, 14:33
Thanks for the pics. I keep checking when they will be released so I can add them to my collection. Also looking forward for the bombers.

Ed2
06-24-2011, 15:31
Dang the luck, why do they have to make all these cool planes ? I'm trying to keep away from the WWII planes !!!!

I think thats why Nexus is letting WWI dry up. To boost their WWII sales.

Hunter
06-24-2011, 17:16
August 2011 then...

:fokker:

Right. :hmm:

P-51D
06-25-2011, 08:06
WOW those are great looking!! I am super excited for series three!! Wish I could say the same for Series 4!! The Beaufighter and Me-110 are just fine, but I could live without the two bi-planes. We have bi-planes enough for the WWI game. However with the Last of the Bi-planes pack it was inevitable. However Andrea for series V please go back and give us a SBD Dauntless!! Carrier battles are little boring right now. Once Series three hits and the Japanese have 10 planes!! Yes, 10!!! It is going to be a little lopsided. Japan could also be skipped for a couple Series while the other nations catch up.

Stormkahn
06-25-2011, 08:45
Daniel, I think I agree with you but for slightly different reasons..

I'm always finding something missing from whatever theatre I want to fly, BoB needs all the bombers and the 110 (and will still be missing the Ju88), Malta needs more than the Gladiator & CR.42 (MC.200), Pacific is lob sided but frankly the lack of a/c is less of an issue than rules because AiM do dome great minis for the PTO...all of this could be solved if they had some regular releases :)

P-51D
06-25-2011, 08:56
Yeah, the game itself works just fine, but leaves a little to be desired in many scenario settings right now. I agree that the BoB and other air campains are not even remotely close to being recreated. However, I hope that chnages with more regular releases and perhaps a focus per series on a certain campaign. I would be fine waiting for the Pacific theater to be ignored one set for the BoB to get 4 planes they need if I knew the following series was going to give the Pacific four new planes. But that is just me, and with the current wait between series there are going to be a lot of really ticked peoples.

I don't want to sound cliche, but if/when we ge the faster planes I hope we can get a lot more American planes into the mix. I want to think that we aren't seeing many of them because of the speed issues, but some of us on this side of the pond have our doubts. After series III there is going to be 10 Japanese planes, yet only 5 american if you consider the Flying Tiger American (which I do). I really feel that the Dauntless and Val should have appeared in Series II, and the Stuka which I love by the way in Series three. We already have the line-up through series IV and still no Dauntless it is a crying shame and I am not just saying that because I am an AMerican homer, which I honestly am, being that it is my home country. I would have been fine with any allied dive domber, but being that the British Empire didn't really use dive bombers, i think the logical choice was the Dauntless. Also then it would be 10 to 8 Japanses to American disparity and much easier to swallow than 2 to 1. I want a lot of Japanese planes, but also the American planes to fight them with!

Stormkahn
06-25-2011, 09:54
I hear you, makes sense to me but then I have some Dauntless's flying so I'm not so fussed.

I'd put the lack of US machines simply down to the fact we're still fairly early in the war and there's a lot of interesting flying to be had in the SCW, Winter War or Russia. As you say, pick something and run with it because they're spreading things a little thinly.

Cheers!

jhary
06-25-2011, 11:34
I think thats why Nexus is letting WWI dry up. To boost their WWII sales.

ED they reprint every thing from WW1 and there is more out for WW1 then for WW2.

Ed2
06-25-2011, 12:16
ED they reprint every thing from WW1 and there is more out for WW1 then for WW2.

Where are the "reprinted" D.VII's? And every store I've seen has a full line of WWII which I can't say for WWI.

jhary
06-25-2011, 15:38
Where are the "reprinted" D.VII's? And every store I've seen has a full line of WWII which I can't say for WWI.

Strange that i can say the complet the other way around.

wargamer
06-25-2011, 15:45
Strange that i can say the complet the other way around.

Well then, sounds like you need to pick up the D.VII's and sell or trade them to those with a surplus of ww2 stuff.

Ed2
06-25-2011, 16:43
I checked the store in Germany that he mentioned. They are out of stock.

Oberst Hajj
06-29-2011, 23:18
Just added the finished product shots of all 12 planes in this set to the first post.

Jager
06-30-2011, 14:06
Interesting fact: while I was at my LFGS yesterday, I mentioned the Nexus split from FFG (which he had gotten no information about), so he did some searching and found that the WW2 series 3 is up on the Alliance site (store owners only) for pre-ordering with a NEX prefex on the order code. So they are already ready for Nexus to ship directly to Alliance.
Need to get my pre-order ready before August.
Karl

Hunter
06-30-2011, 15:57
Where are the "reprinted" D.VII's? And every store I've seen has a full line of WWII which I can't say for WWI.

ED's right, Hershal, at least in Arizona. Hardly any WWI stuff and quite a bit of WWII.

No SBD! That's just wrong!

Jager
07-01-2011, 13:43
OK, I'm confused with the chosen paint jobs: we have 3 P-40Es; 1 from the AVG in China 1941, and 2 from Tunisia 1943 (1 USA 1 Vishy or Free French). The Tunisians can fight the Reggiane Re.2001 Falco II s (I think), but the Ki-61s don't come out until 1943, in New Guinea. And If I'm reading the Italian right, the colours are all planes that were defending the Home Islands against B-29s.
So nothing for the Flying Tiger to fight. HHHmmmmmm.
Karl

Diamondback
07-01-2011, 14:39
A lot of the China air war was IJNAF's show, so any of the Zekes could be fair game.

jhary
07-02-2011, 00:17
THe P40 was flying in all theaters so to find an Duelpartner is no prob, from the paintjob looks strange if an Tiger battle a 109 but who cares. I will not repaint the Planes for every Game. :fixit:

Olt^Jones
07-15-2011, 00:11
Very very beautifull planes indeed.
P40 warhawk and reggiane are the...best! :D

Ed2
07-15-2011, 00:38
Can't wait to get my hands on some P 40's and Yak 1's.

pbhawkin
07-15-2011, 00:42
Daniel said: "British Empire didn't really use dive bombers"
Hi Daniel, I agree that there are a lot of 'missing' or rather not released aircraft including the USA's dive bombers, especially the SBD and SB2C, BUT you will find that the Vultee Vengeance was WELL used by RAF, RAAF, Indian and Free French Air Forces to good effect in South East Asia (well perhaps not the French as they rushed them into service and caused them to be unreliable to the point they were useless).
By the way I make a resin Vengeance in 1/144 scale.

macka321
07-15-2011, 02:44
The Royal Navy used dive bombers.
The Blackburn Skua and the multi role Fairy Albacore (TB/DB).
The Albacore did numerous land operations for the Eight Army in the western desert.

CappyTom
07-15-2011, 03:00
Now you can get the dive bombers for the U.S. at A.I.M. (http://www.angelfire.com/nj4/armamentsinminiature/aircraftinminiature/9mm/resin09mm.htm). Here's some photos of the planes.

1669216693

Now as soon as I get the paint jobs and decals on I will show you the finished product. But I think this guy does great work. They are 1/200 scale and fit right in with DoW planes.

:salute:
Tom

Naharaht
07-15-2011, 18:30
Those look good models, Tom.

CappyTom
07-15-2011, 18:32
Those look good models, Tom.


Thanks
Tom

Okie
07-15-2011, 19:10
Wow! Thanks for the pictures, they'er great! Must have more plastic crack!! :eek::);)
Okie

Shivaja
07-16-2011, 04:36
nice the avenger looks great but for me without bank account and from the other side of ocean kinda impossible to get :hmm:

CappyTom
07-16-2011, 04:45
nice the avenger looks great but for me without bank account and from the other side of ocean kinda impossible to get :hmm:

I know how you feel. Here in the states its just $4 dollars a plane and each set of decals will do 4 planes and there just $4 dollars a sheet. So I got 4 torpedo planes and 4 dive bombers and 2 sets of decals with shipping it cost me $46.00 bucks total I believe. And they look great as well.
:salute:
Tom

LewdDude
07-19-2011, 10:41
c'mon already!!! LOL I have been waiting for what seems like years for these p-40's. I am starting to get a complex as an American here! I remember a similar issue with a certain flight simulator ehem! IL2... that really shafted the U.S. with a lack of aircraft representation! WWI, well I can understand that one as we entered very late, but in WWII we had, and still have some of the best aircraft in the world!!! almost none of it is represented in this series. I know I know, I could make my own little mini's but I am an American, and we don't make things any more! ;-) that was a funny!

Oberst Hajj
07-19-2011, 23:28
Guys, let's keep this thread on topic: WWII Series 3. All other discussions should have their own thread please.

jhary
07-20-2011, 08:03
SO What is in Serial Three Huricans none in British Collors Strange three Yak with the red star three Ki61 in correct Collors and three P40 only one as Tiger and one as American the third as French. British collors woud be better.

Ed2
07-20-2011, 08:51
SO What is in Serial Three Huricans none in British Collors Strange three Yak with the red star three Ki61 in correct Collors and three P40 only one as Tiger and one as American the third as French. British collors woud be better.

Hurricanes are series 2, and Bader's is in British colours.

LewdDude
07-20-2011, 12:07
Guys, let's keep this thread on topic: WWII Series 3. All other discussions should have their own thread please.

Sir yes Sir :salute: It kinda was though as it was referring to the P-40's coming out in series 3, and I believe i read earlier in this post something very close to that theory, but I will be more careful about my rants!

My apologies,

Ron

Oberst Hajj
07-21-2011, 00:47
Added images of the three Ki-61 cards to the first post.

Olt^Jones
07-21-2011, 01:06
Added images of the three Ki-61 cards to the first post.
very nice!
why the first one has 16hp??
and different damages??

CappyTom
07-21-2011, 02:30
Final photos of the minis as they will be published:

P-40

http://www.wingsofwar.it/backoffice/cms/images/zoom7303.jpg

http://www.wingsofwar.it/backoffice/cms/images/zoom7307.jpg

http://www.wingsofwar.it/backoffice/cms/images/zoom7308.jpg

Yak-1

http://www.wingsofwar.it/backoffice/cms/images/zoom7309.jpg

http://www.wingsofwar.it/backoffice/cms/images/zoom7304.jpg

http://www.wingsofwar.it/backoffice/cms/images/zoom7310.jpg

Ki-61

http://www.wingsofwar.it/backoffice/cms/images/zoom7305.jpg

http://www.wingsofwar.it/backoffice/cms/images/zoom7311.jpg

http://www.wingsofwar.it/backoffice/cms/images/zoom7312.jpg

R.2001

http://www.wingsofwar.it/backoffice/cms/images/zoom7306.jpg

http://www.wingsofwar.it/backoffice/cms/images/zoom7314.jpg

http://www.wingsofwar.it/backoffice/cms/images/zoom7313.jpg

http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic1039433_lg.jpg

I have a question, in the Kawasaki KI-61-... are they all different year models of the same plane? I ask because they all have different fire power. Also what damage tokens are the agua color ones?

:salute:
Tom

pbhawkin
07-21-2011, 04:43
Yes, they are different 'marks' or version.
Ki-61 IB is a: Two 12.7 mm (.50 in) Ho-103 machine guns replaced the earlier wing 7.7 mm (.303 in) machine guns, and two 12.7mm MG in the nose.
Ki-61 KAIC is a: Two German-made 20 mm Mauser MG 151/20 cannons in wings and 12.7mm in nose.
Ki-61 KAID is a :Interceptor variant with 2 × 12.7 mm (.50 in) nose machine guns and 2 × 30 mm (1.18 in) wing cannon.

CappyTom
07-21-2011, 16:37
Yes, they are different 'marks' or version.
Ki-61 IB is a: Two 12.7 mm (.50 in) Ho-103 machine guns replaced the earlier wing 7.7 mm (.303 in) machine guns, and two 12.7mm MG in the nose.
Ki-61 KAIC is a: Two German-made 20 mm Mauser MG 151/20 cannons in wings and 12.7mm in nose.
Ki-61 KAID is a :Interceptor variant with 2 × 12.7 mm (.50 in) nose machine guns and 2 × 30 mm (1.18 in) wing cannon.

Thanks
Tom

Shivaja
07-27-2011, 03:01
Can any one tel me why o why there is no dive bomber for the allies nor in series 2 not in series 3 ?:mad:

Oberst Hajj
07-27-2011, 04:36
A very serious oversight I agree Shivaja!

Royals
07-27-2011, 08:43
I'd love to get ahold of a Dauntless or a Helldiver

Diamondback
07-27-2011, 13:14
Yeah, come on, we need Swede Vejtasa and Cook Cleland's "bomber turned fighter" Dauntlesses already! What kind of Ace ability would represent being skilled enough to dogfight in a bomber and winning enough times to make Ace, anyway?

CappyTom
07-27-2011, 13:27
I'd love to get ahold of a Dauntless or a Helldiver

O.K. you can get them in the right scale at A.I.M. (http://www.angelfire.com/nj4/armamentsinminiature/aircraftinminiature/9mm/resin09mm.htm) . Here's a photo of them before painting them.

1787317874

These are Dive bombers and torpedo planes. Each costing $4.00 and 1 set of decals can do 4 planes. So with buying 4 of each and 1 set of decals for each plus $6.00 shipping and handling it came to $46.00 total. The guy is really easy to work with and prompt.

Now of course you have to be a painter and that is why I contract out mine to Cowman at what ever cost he deems fit:thumbsup:. He is the best painter I've seen:minis: round these parts.

:salute:
Tom
I think he's getting tired :surrender:of me cause he going to move to Florida to get a way.

CappyTom
07-27-2011, 14:09
Some more good news gents. Cool Stuff Inc. (http://www.coolstuffinc.com/main_miniatures.php?viewType=Wings%20of%20War&info1=Board%20Games&info2=Fantasy%20Flight%20Games&info3=Wings%20of%20War&info4=WWII%20Airplane%20Pack%20Series%203):clap::drinks::clap::singin::pint: has the pre-order for series 3.

:salute:
Tom

Naharaht
07-28-2011, 10:13
What we need is some 'peel off' decals showing national roundels so that planes can quickly switch theatres of operation without a complete repaint.

LewdDude
07-28-2011, 18:06
now we need some cowboy killers! p51 Mustangs!!! probably wont see them til 2014!!!!:mad:

Albert Ross
07-28-2011, 20:54
Why do all the Yak 1's have upper wing red stars?

These were ordered painted over, (and new ones added to the tail fin) in a June 1941 directive; certainly the Albert Durand should not have them as the Normandie Niemen squadron was not formed until November 1942 and didn't become operational until March 1943:smack:

Firebrand
07-28-2011, 22:32
Good point! I suppose they put the red stars there for easy identification in game, but it's very non-historical :-D

Albert Ross
07-28-2011, 23:15
Looks like Nexus goofed again - like the sky blue Pfalz DIII's and the back-to-front struts on the Albatross....

Hunter
07-28-2011, 23:58
now we need some cowboy killers! p51 Mustangs!!! probably wont see them til 2014!!!!:mad:

Or later!

Shivaja
07-29-2011, 03:14
and i want some avengers :)

Hunter
07-29-2011, 03:36
and i want some avengers :)

YES!! SBD's as well!

Firebrand
07-29-2011, 06:52
I think so! It's not fair only Axis can use dive bombers... How Allied Forces can replay Midway? ;-)

alpine
07-29-2011, 08:34
P-47'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ed2
07-29-2011, 09:41
I realize that you can't please everyone but, who ever decides which planes are to be put in a series must be a relative of the owners, and should be let go.
Just my opinion.

CappyTom
07-29-2011, 13:10
and i want some avengers :)

Check back to post 146. Email him and see how much shipping would be? I'm just curious. They are really cool looking planes.

Tom

afilter
08-01-2011, 21:20
Any confirmed release date on these? Spoke to a vendor today who is expecting them this month. Another vendor is taking preorders.

Doug
08-05-2011, 03:14
I have been told by my vendor that we should get them in Brisbane (Australia) in September.

LewdDude
08-16-2011, 06:12
anyone have an inside track on when cool stuff inc will be getting series 3? I preordered in July, and most places don't charge til they ship, but they charged me in full in July! lol it's ok, just wondering if there was a more sepcific date than "as soon as possible"? I emailed them as well, but you guys seem to know more sooner! ;-)

S~!

Oberst Hajj
08-16-2011, 07:52
You should expect a refund from them. With Nexus going under, there is no release date or any way of knowing if they will ever show up at all.

LewdDude
08-16-2011, 08:22
You should expect a refund from them. With Nexus going under, there is no release date or any way of knowing if they will ever show up at all.

wow, you were right! I called them and they refunded the order...:surrender:

So now what???

afilter
08-16-2011, 08:22
My supplier was informed that they were produced, but still in containers in China. I was hopeful that they had been sold and shipped so they could still hit the market despite Nexus demise.

Jager
08-19-2011, 14:37
More delay news: my I stopped by my LFGS today, and when we looked online, Alliance had taken the series 3 minis off the pre-order page; the sku numbers are no longer valid (forgot to have him check Rain of Destruction).
:(

Karl

LewdDude
08-20-2011, 07:50
this is all so very frustrating...:mad: not just nexus, but it has been sooooooooo long over due for most of the mini's sitting in some crate on a dock as well as all the ones that should already be done!!! so many key aircraft have not even been put on the drafting table. I mean if we had taken this long to make the REAL aircraft we would all speak German!

jhary
08-20-2011, 15:00
this is all so very frustrating...:mad: not just nexus, but it has been sooooooooo long over due for most of the mini's sitting in some crate on a dock as well as all the ones that should already be done!!! so many key aircraft have not even been put on the drafting table. I mean if we had taken this long to make the REAL aircraft we would all speak German!

You mean the world woud Speak japanese! If i go over the Models the germans have only 2. even the french have more Models to chose from.

Even when you play with the cards there is some strange things.

Doug
08-20-2011, 15:39
It will be intresting to see what Angilo and the new owners cook up for us, not that I am expecting any thing soon. But I am betting we will see WW2 Series 3 before Christmas 2011 if they are already made. Its a question of giving Angilo time to get things organised.

jhary
08-20-2011, 18:09
It will be intresting to see what Angilo and the new owners cook up for us, not that I am expecting any thing soon. But I am betting we will see WW2 Series 3 before Christmas 2011 if they are already made. Its a question of giving Angilo time to get things organised.

What new Owners? Did i missed some thing?:surrender:

flyingryno
08-20-2011, 19:51
Why pre-Pearl Harbor? Where's the Hellcat? I love the P-40's, I look at my Avatar. But I need the hellcat, Corsair, P-38, P-61, etc.

Patients Weedhopper.

Firebrand
08-21-2011, 00:53
Talking about pre-Pearl Harbor... The Hawasaki Ki-100 made its first flight 1 February 1945. So... Why do japanese fighters have such timing advantage? I think Allies deserve a comparable "modern" fighter.

Doug
08-21-2011, 04:22
Hershall my mistake by new owners I meant the other wings of war game designers

jhary
08-21-2011, 07:28
Hershall my mistake by new owners I meant the other wings of war game designers

You shocked me. From my expierence its every time the same new Owner screw up a Game special when you can complain some thing.


Talking about pre-Pearl Harbor... The Hawasaki Ki-100 made its first flight 1 February 1945. So... Why do japanese fighters have such timing advantage? I think Allies deserve a comparable "modern" fighter.
With the european Theater is almost the same the as exemplam the Reggiane 2001 was only built 252 times. The french dewoitine over the Years 910 built, but france was beaten.

Firebrand
08-21-2011, 08:30
With the european Theater is almost the same the as exemplam the Reggiane 2001 was only built 252 times. The french dewoitine over the Years 910 built, but france was beaten.
France lost against panzers, but was not over. After fighting Messers and Heinkels, they fought against British Fulmars, Catalinas and Hurricanes.
I'm very happy D520 is there, I think she could be a great fighter if France was not defeated. Even so, she made it rather well in Mediterranean Theatre, and in Italian, Bulgarian and Luftwaffe service.

jhary
08-21-2011, 09:14
It was a great fighter and i´m wondering why the "Mainforces" are so restricted.

swarbs
08-21-2011, 09:38
Talking about pre-Pearl Harbor... The Hawasaki Ki-100 made its first flight 1 February 1945. So... Why do japanese fighters have such timing advantage? I think Allies deserve a comparable "modern" fighter.

I think it has to do with aircraft speed. The maneuver cards we have are already almost maxed out when it comes to speed (there's not much room on a standard size card for longer arrows for higher speed aircraft). Even the later war Italian and Japanese fighters were built more for maneuverability than speed, though, so they can be accommodated by the decks we've already got.

Diamondback
08-21-2011, 09:47
The 100 is basically an improved Ki-61, so it may be seeing the earlier model's availability taken into account too.

Firebrand
08-21-2011, 09:59
The 100 is basically an improved Ki-61, so it may be seeing the earlier model's availability taken into account too.
Thinking like that, we can play with the Spitfire MkIX, an improved Spitfire ;-)

Albert Ross
08-21-2011, 10:07
Talking about pre-Pearl Harbor... The Hawasaki Ki-100 made its first flight 1 February 1945. So... Why do japanese fighters have such timing advantage? I think Allies deserve a comparable "modern" fighter.

Just another example of the somewhat bizarre choices made by the developers - the same folks who gave us the Sopwith Snipe for WWI!!

Diamondback
08-21-2011, 10:18
My read is the 100 wasn't that big of an improvement, though.