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Flying Officer Kyte
11-30-2018, 04:08
I am currently converting some of my ME 109 Es to JG 26. I have Galland but wondered what symbols an letters were on the other aircraft in his Rote. Can anyone help with this please.
Rob.

BwanaJoe
11-30-2018, 05:02
You can blow up the pix at the bottom of the page for some reference.

https://www.largescaleplanes.com/reviews/review.php?rid=1168


Below is a shot from Duxford of a downed JG26. Wish that was there when I visited a couple of decades ago!

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http://www.taphilo.com/jg26/index.shtml

BwanaJoe
11-30-2018, 05:07
Most of the stuff so far looks pretty standard German flight /squadron stuff.

Flying Officer Kyte
11-30-2018, 05:11
Thanks Joe. That will be very useful.
Rob.

BwanaJoe
11-30-2018, 06:07
Here’s another one Rob.

https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Fw-190A/JG26.html (https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Fw-190A/JG26.html)

Teaticket
11-30-2018, 07:22
Rob, do you have the names of his Rote mates? I have found a lot of emblems used by JG26.

BwanaJoe
11-30-2018, 07:48
Commanders of 3 Group.

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Hptm Walter Kienitz, 23 September 1939 – 31 October 1939
Maj Ernst Freiherr von Berg, 1 November 1939 – 5 June 1940
Maj Adolf Galland, 6 June 1940 – 20 August 1940
Maj Gerhard Schöpfel (http://military.wikia.com/wiki/Gerhard_Sch%C3%B6pfel), 21 August 1940 – 5 December 1941
Hptm Josef Priller, 6 December 1941 – 10 January 1943
Hptm Friedrich Geißhardt (http://military.wikia.com/wiki/Friedrich_Gei%C3%9Fhardt), 11 January 1943 – 6 April 1943
Hptm Kurt Ruppert, 7 April 1943 – 13 June 1943
Hptm Rolf Hermichen (http://military.wikia.com/wiki/Rolf_Hermichen), 15 June 1943 – 4 July 1943
Maj Klaus Mietusch (http://military.wikia.com/wiki/Klaus_Mietusch), 5 July 1943 – 17 September 1944
Hptm Paul Schauder, 18 September 1944 – 26 September 1944
Hptm Walter Krupinski (http://military.wikia.com/wiki/Walter_Krupinski), 27 September 1944 – 25 March 1945


I thought maybe these guys could also be flight members as well.

fast.git
11-30-2018, 08:01
Rob, do you have the names of his Rote mates? I have found a lot of emblems used by JG26.

JG 26 Luftwaffe Fighter Wing War Diary: 1939-42 (by Donald Caldwell) has Bruno Hegenauer flying as Galland's rotenflieger in 1941... as does artist Robert Taylor in his "Most Memorable Day" painting. From Virginia Bader's Fine Arts Page:

Adolf Galland and his wingman Bruno Hegenauer break through the fighter escort of No. 303 Squadron's Spitfires to attack Blenheim bombers of No. 21 Squadron over northern France, 21 June 1941. In two missions that day Galland claimed two Blenheims and one Spitfire, survived a forced crash-landing, and later a parachute escape from his blazing Me109. That evening he learned he was to become the first recipient of the Knights Cross with oak leaves and swords - Germany's highest award for heroism.

http://www.vbader.com/momeday.html

Walter Horten (of the Horten Brothers, who designed the world's first jet-powered flying wing, the Horten Ho 229, as well as other revolutionary designs) apparently shot down 7 aircraft while "secretly" flying Galland's wing during the Battle of Britain.

Osprey's Bf 109D/E Aces 1939-41 (by John Weal) has Robert Menge (highest scoring ace of the Norwegian campaign and a Knight's Cross recipient) flying Galland's wing, but not until December 1940, and for only a limited time.

Wikipedia (and a Galland interview, so I suppose I should believe Wiki) has Gustav Rödel flying as Galland's rotenflieger with JG27... possibly not helpful, now that I think about it.

Teaticket
11-30-2018, 08:40
I also have JG 26 Luftwaffe Fighter Wing War Diary: 1939-42 but haven't had the time to get it out. It should have the answers.

Flying Officer Kyte
11-30-2018, 08:46
Here’s another one Rob.

https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Fw-190A/JG26.html (https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Fw-190A/JG26.html)

That was good for photos of pilots and those who flew ME 109, A lot only flew FWs.
Thanks again Joe.
Rob.

Flying Officer Kyte
11-30-2018, 08:50
That will be most helpful Peter.
We are piecing it together gradually between us.
Rob.

Naharaht
11-30-2018, 09:34
Here are two.

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rhodie80
11-30-2018, 10:23
https://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/showthread.php?26814-Bf-109E-JG-26-Battle-of-Britain-1-200-scale-decals

These decals are gorgeous

Teaticket
11-30-2018, 12:23
Kevin's JG26 decal set is a nice one. I have it and will probably try to make some of the other individual markings for JG26.

BobP
11-30-2018, 12:36
I remember have a paperback book and low and behold it was right on top of my stack of paperback books. I just did a scan of the cover so here it is. I will scan some of the photos also.

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BobP
11-30-2018, 12:44
Here are two scans of some Me 109E's.

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gully_raker
11-30-2018, 15:37
:D Carl_Brisgamer posted a list of German Squadron symbols but I can't remember where on the Forum he posted.
I suggest you send him a PM as I am sure he can help.

Teaticket
11-30-2018, 17:57
Rob, here are some emblems I found. You should be able to use them to make decals. (my plan anyway!)

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Some nice markings info graphic display.
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OldGuy59
11-30-2018, 18:24
My reference for doing redecalling of Bf.109s, and for Stab./JG 26: www.asisbiz.com - Bf-109E - JG26-Stab (https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Bf-109E/JG26-Stab.html)

Basically, as the 'Wing Commander', I took the liberty of assuming Galland could fly with anyone in the entire unit as his wingman. So, if the body of the plane was marked correctly, you could put any staffel markings on your plane, and it would be probable.

As an example, I just removed the front chevron from one copy of a Galland Bf.109 and called it Walter Horton's: OldGuy59's WWII Axis Fighters Album - Hptm Walter Horten (https://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/album.php?albumid=2985&attachmentid=124480)

Ref: www.asisbiz.com - Bf-109E - JG26 Stab Walter Horton, Audembert, France, Sep 1940 (https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Bf-109E/JG26-Stab/pages/Messerschmitt-Bf-109E4-Stab-JG26-Walter-Horton-Audembert-France-Sep-1940-0A.html)

PS: Too Much Information: www.asisbiz.com - Luftwaffe Camouflage Colors, Patterns and Markings for Bf.109s (https://www.asisbiz.com/Battles/camouflage.html)

Flying Officer Kyte
12-01-2018, 01:11
Thanks chaps.
I have plenty to go on now.
Will dish out some Rep when I get back from today's battle.
Rob.