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Aardvark1430
02-01-2017, 12:30
Hi gal and guys,
I'm currently working on two Fokker T.V light bombers, Dutch Army Airforce, May 1940.

Specifications (WiKi, checked with other sources)

General characteristics

Crew: Five (Pilot, co-pilot, bombardier, radioman/gunner, gunner)
Length: 16.00 m (60 ft 6 in)
Wingspan: 21.00 m (68 ft 10¾ in)
Height: 4.20 m [11] (13 ft 9 in)
Wing area: 66.2 m² (712.6 ft²)
Empty weight: 4,650 kg (10,251 lb)
Loaded weight: 7,250 kg (15,983 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 7,650 kg (16,865 lb)
Powerplant: 2 × Bristol Pegasus XXVI air-cooled radial engines, 690 kW (925 hp)at 9,500 ft each

Performance

Maximum speed: 417 km/h (225 knots, 259 mph)
Cruise speed: 335 km/h (181 kn, 208 mph)
Range: 1,550 km (837 nmi, 963 mi)
Service ceiling: 8,550 m (28,050 ft)
Climb to 5,000 m (16,400 ft): 13.1 min

Armament

Guns:
1 × 20 mm Solothurn S-18/100 cannon in nose cupola
5 × 7.9 mm (.31 in) machine-guns on dorsal, ventral, and lateral positions, and tail cupola
Bombs: 1,000 kg (2,205 lb) of bombs

I think i might use the XA deck (He 111), what do you think ?

cheers,
Guus :salute:

Jager
02-01-2017, 15:49
A bit fast, but close enough (94% close).
Say 20 hits
ceiling 10
Climb 7
Guns: well looking at this picture, I'd say the front gun would be a limited front arc, say 11 o'clock to 1 o'clock. The rear gun could be a full rear arc, but only at targets below the plane.
waist guns would be 3 to 5 o'clock and 7 to 9 o'clock. Note that the radioman/gunner handles them both, so only one can be use in a phase. front gun is C/A; the rest are A/A.
Also, it was a firetrap, so fire crits last 12 phases :erk:
Karl
215882

PS: full size pic can be found here: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/67/58/1b/67581bdd5c656b26ff96fbeff7681881.jpg

Gotham Resident
02-02-2017, 17:13
Oh...looks like fun. Will have to see how this goes and if I ever get to the ETO, use one myself.

OldGuy59
02-04-2017, 15:19
Line drawings of this plane are abysmal.

216236


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Crew: Five (Pilot, co-pilot, bombardier, radioman/gunner, gunner)


For this plane, would this make the co-pilot the dorsal gunner? I would suspect the bombardier would take the nose gun, and the other gunner would be the tail gunner. According to the drawing from Karl, there are three MGs in the waist. One each at the sides, and one that points out the bottom (Lower altitude and to the rear, from the looks of the mounting). I suspect that any of these MGs would be handled by the radioman.

Color scheme?

216237

BomVa, Haamstede Airbase

Aardvark1430
02-05-2017, 03:31
Hi Mike,

you make cards faster than I paint ;)
some info:
armament:
1 20mm cannon in nose, 5 MG 7,92mm
crew:
commander/navigator/bombardier/nose gunner
pilot
second pilot/dorsal gunner
radio operator / waist gunner (both sides/belly gunner)
tail gunner had 360 degree rotating cupola, so able to fire down, up and level

unit:
1. BomVA, Schiphol Airbase

colors:
you have used the color of the planes numbered 858 - 865, i've painted mine in the 850 -857 scheme. The difference is the green and sand colored patches are reversed ... A bit like the A and B schemes of the RAF (I think).
On google you almost exclusively find the pattern you used. I hope this makes sense to you.

But if it is too much trouble to change, just leave as is, I'm perfectly happy with it :sAprvd:

cheers,
Guus :salute:


Mike, does this line drawing help ? http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/bww2/fokt5/fokt5-1.gif

OldGuy59
02-07-2017, 00:34
...

colors:
you have used the color of the planes numbered 858 - 865, i've painted mine in the 850 -857 scheme. The difference is the green and sand colored patches are reversed ... A bit like the A and B schemes of the RAF (I think).

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Version A (Original)
216431

Version B
216432

Note: This is Version A with the pattern and colours swapped.

And thanks for trying with the line drawing. That is the one I'm using, despite it being very low resolution. It is pretty much all that's out there.

Aardvark1430
02-07-2017, 02:58
Hi Mike, very nice, well done !
Could you please make a card for either color scheme, other wingmembers might want to use them as well ...

Thanks a ton for now,
cheers,
Guus :salute:

OldGuy59
02-07-2017, 12:37
Draft cards:

Management, with the Radioman swapping between three guns:
216506
[Edit: Updated. See below]

The Dorsal arc might be a bit large, perhaps very large. Thoughts?
216507
[Edit: Updated. See below]

The plane is not finished, as it needs markings and shading.


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Could you please make a card for either color scheme, other wingmembers might want to use them as well ...
...

Really, Guus? Haven't seen anyone but you express interest in this plane. However, there are always one-offs on this site. And you never know. Someone might want to build one, when they see yours, and that there are cards available. You might start a trend?

Aardvark1430
02-09-2017, 02:19
Hi Mike,
I think the dorsal arc should be 180 degrees, so only sideways and backwards. I hope you understand what I mean :confused:... but i don't know another (better) way to describe it ...
and I mean other members of the Dutch Wing ... :)
cheers,
Guus :salute:

OldGuy59
02-09-2017, 12:35
Aircraft 850, with the "A" colour scheme
216495

216493

Aircraft 859, with the "B" colour scheme
216496

216494

Firing arc for the Dorsal turret changed to 180 degrees aft.

Aardvark1430
02-10-2017, 00:38
NICE :sAprvd::clap:

cheers,
Guus :salute:

OldGuy59
02-24-2017, 10:18
Guus,
Saw your post of the Fokker T.Vs. Very nice. But the stands are 'je ne sais quoi'...

Perhaps this would help:
217477
[Edited: Fixed Unit and Crew data. D'oh!]

And you could check this thread for suggestions on how to use it: How to Customize Aftermarket Airplane Stands - Update (http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/showthread.php?14455-How-to-Customize-Aftermarket-Airplane-Stands&p=425382&viewfull=1#post425382)

Aardvark1430
02-24-2017, 10:30
Yeah Mike, I know, these are still the working-on stands ...
I'll get some Litko ones and add all the necessary info ...
Thanks for your concern :)

... alas REP gun empty ...
cheers,
Guus :salute:

Aardvark1430
02-25-2017, 03:13
Hi Mike, pm send,
cheers,
Guus :salute: