Group dynamics

[clipper1801]

After pondering over the B-17 bomber box concept and plotting my PTO Carrier wars projects, I am thinking we might want to consider group dynamics, a trio of fighters or torpedo bombers flying in a tight formation, flying literally as one up to a point in the game, then breaking off into individual attacks . . . I had some challenges in my early trials with just too many planes to manage at once.

Awkward :

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h379/Revchaos/2013%20new%20wow/Carriers/2013-11-13_23-20-47_524_zpsbf4ad71c.jpg (http://s1106.photobucket.com/user/Revchaos/media/2013%20new%20wow/Carriers/2013-11-13_23-20-47_524_zpsbf4ad71c.jpg.html)

Even more awkward :

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h379/Revchaos/2013%20new%20wow/Carriers/2013-11-13_23-20-27_543_zps03f92ebd.jpg (http://s1106.photobucket.com/user/Revchaos/media/2013%20new%20wow/Carriers/2013-11-13_23-20-27_543_zps03f92ebd.jpg.html)

Awkwardist! :

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h379/Revchaos/2013%20new%20wow/Carriers/2013-11-13_23-18-58_525_zpsd87110f0.jpg (http://s1106.photobucket.com/user/Revchaos/media/2013%20new%20wow/Carriers/2013-11-13_23-18-58_525_zpsd87110f0.jpg.html)

Seems someone had a joined base concept once, I liked it but did not pursue it at the time. Thinking also about a common base with three masts for three planes that could separate at a chosen time, but were flown to the that point as one "group". Am I crazy (my middle name) or is this a shared mental crisis? Just wondering . . . whoops! Wrong thread section! Some one please move me to where I belong . . .

[Stumptonian]

I think you are on to something, Dave.
:thumbsup:
Even your "more awkward" would be a disaster for me to try to move without knocking them every which way.
:surrender:

[Rebel]

We play a 1:700th Pacific game where 1 x 1:700th aircraft model represents a flight of anywhere up to 14 Aircraft. We whittle them down on paper and what get home is the number in the flight for the next sortie. It would be a nightmare to try it with individual aircraft as with 3 to 4 attacking flights and 1 or 2 CAP you could be handling
over 50 planes. Difficult without a lot of players involved.

[Jager]

David;
I made a formation movement tray back in '11, and posted the results here:
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/showthread.php?7204-Bomber-move-trays
Since then, Keith made me a nice set, though they haven't been used yet :(
You should be able to use the concept for your own quite easily.
Karl

[Flying Helmut]

We play a 1:700th Pacific game where 1 x 1:700th aircraft model represents a flight of anywhere up to 14 Aircraft. We whittle them down on paper and what get home is the number in the flight for the next sortie. It would be a nightmare to try it with individual aircraft as with 3 to 4 attacking flights and 1 or 2 CAP you could be handling
over 50 planes. Difficult without a lot of players involved.

As a teenager, I helped organise a "Battle of the Philippine Sea" game in 1/700 at my local games convention.

3 aircraft carriers in line ahead, escorted by two battleshps, two cruisers and a ring of 9 destroyers, were attacked by 160 Japanese planes, each mounted on a cocktail stick.
The game was played on the floor, with ten players, and up to 70 USN fighters were launched/vectored in to meet the attackers!
It took both full days to play the attack; one carrier and one destroyer were sunk, several other ships damaged, and over 100 Japanese planes were shot down.

Fortunately, no one stepped on any ships!

[Tonx]

whoops! Wrong thread section! Some one please move me to where I belong . . .

David you are really onto something here - what an interesting discussion. Not only that but transferrable to all sections as well - WW1 / WW2 / Post WW2.

IMHO you are not in the wrong section: Maybe this was intended for WW2 but think again as to the transferability aspects and highlight examples using WW2 :minis: to relay the facts to us.

You also are not IMHO crazy just ground-breakingly adventurous at times! :)

[Lt. S.Kafloc]

I remember Ken or Tom using one for a 6 box formation of B17's at Origins last year. I might be wrong. Perhaps they or Keith could correct me if I am.

[Jager]

No, Tom used single bases. (I checked his albums).
It would be a nice way to mount a bomber box; you could also color-code the altitude on the base ;)
Karl

[Lt. S.Kafloc]

Ah with age the memory becomes befuddled. Or the eyes deceive Karl.

[Jager]

Ah with age the memory becomes befuddled. Or the eyes deceive Karl.

True that...........ummmm.....what were we talking about? ;)
Karl