Official Me 262 'Schwalbe' Painting Thread

[Nightbomber]

These ones were a real great love from the start. The jets!
AIM 1/200 models painted in a generic scheme with authentic Pactra colours: RLM 82/83/76, airbrushed. The pattern is custom, a kinda free hand;).
The individual markings are fantasy. Some of them were taken from tank models (sorry;)), but they fit quite right. Mehusla's decals (crosses) are top notch.

The brighter pictures were taken outdoors in a bright light, so you can see the difference in saturation. It is natural effect.

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The Ace with 100 victories (;)).

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[Foz]

Really nice paint jobs. I have two on my to do list.
I'm slowly working on a manuever deck for this too.

[Пилот]

Well done, Andrzej!

[Caveman]

I like the airbrushed camo pattern. Nice effect. Well done.

[Dowters]

Beautiful!

[grumpybear]

Very nicely done

[flash]

They look like a handful Andy !

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Beautiful aircraft Andy, but I agree with Dave.
We have got our work cut out to deal with these boys now.
Rob.

[Flying Helmut]

Superb work, Andrzej! :clap::clap:

[Stumptonian]

Very nicely done!
:thumbsup:

[Blackronin]

Super!
Nice work, Andy!
Can't give you more REP.

[Nightbomber]

Thanks chaps! I only wish we had some established rules to use them...

[Foz]

Thanks chaps! I only wish we had some established rules to use them...

Karl & I were working on jets for WWII, in particular the Me262. It needs a larger card for the speed, and I'm still working on manoeuvrability, but it shouldn't be too difficult. Watch this space... Actually not this space, but somewhere.

[Naharaht]

Some good paint jobs, Andrzej! :thumbsup:

[Jager]

Nice work, Andrzej. :thumbsup:
As Steve said, we are discussing rules. With the holiday madness, I won't promise how fast.
When is Sven heading up your way?
Karl

[Guntruck]

Super!
Nice work, Andy!
Can't give you more REP.

I can though - nice work Andy

[matt56]

Always have liked the Schwalbe, Andy - I have one from AIM myself, and I was just looking around for color schemes...

Yours look beautiful, and the Panzer divisional insignias, as you say, work nicely! I can't decide if I want to do the splinter pattern or try one of the speckled versions...

Thanks for sharing your lovely foursome:sAprvd:

All the best,
Matt

[Marechallannes]

Two new sharks for the Reichsverteidigung!

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=186196&d=1454067050

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=186195&d=1454067050

[Nightbomber]

Very cool!!!
So we both have 6 machines all together.

[LOOP]

Cool duo! :thumbsup:

[Flying Helmut]

Looking very sharp! :sAprvd:

[matt56]

Very pretty, Sven! I love the mix of solid and splatter on your Schwalben:)

I must get going on my little birdie in the near future - then I'll need to get a B-17 for him to shoot down...;)

All the best,
Matt

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Those look very predatory Sven.
So well painted!
Rob.

[Копилот]

Well done! Great work!

[Caveman]

A pair of intimidating looking aircraft. I like the subtle difference in livery. Enough to aid tabletop identification yet they still look great together.

[Stumptonian]

Two new sharks for the Reichsvetreidigung!

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=186196&d=1454067050

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=186195&d=1454067050

Looking more Haifisch than Schwalbe :p

Very nice
:sAprvd:

[milcoll73]

some very nice work here gents!!!! i sure hope ares releases some of these.

[Guntruck]

Just finished these two:

One from EKdo 262

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=189324&d=1456853590

And one from KG(J) 54

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=189325&d=1456853591

[Blackronin]

Wow Steve!
Excellent!
REP!!

[Nightbomber]

Superb models, Steve.
Has ARES already called you?;)
Rep!

[Marechallannes]

Excellent work, Steve. :thumbsup:

[Caveman]

Those are a couple of real beauties!

[Flying Officer Kyte]

How the heck is my Camel going to keep up with that?
Kyte.

A very well painted model Steve. Well done laddie.
Rob.

[Guntruck]

How the heck is my Camel going to keep up with that?
Kyte.

A very well painted model Steve. Well done laddie.
Rob.

I can lend you a Meteor?

[Jager]

Excellent! :salute:
Karl

[matt56]

Very nice work, Mr. Guntruck, Sir! The two-tone green camo is really lovely.

All the best,
Matt

[Stumptonian]

Superb models, Steve.
Has ARES already called you?;)

^^^
What he said X2
:thumbsup:

[Guntruck]

Thanks for your comments guys :thumbsup:

[Sashdash]

Great paint jobs :thumbsup:

Can anybody give me a tip on where to get decals for the Me 262 (pref. in scale 1/200)?

Sascha.

[Guntruck]

All mine were from 144 Direct (Mehusla) on Ebay

[Sashdash]

All mine were from 144 Direct (Mehusla) on Ebay

Thanks for the tip Steve.

Sascha.

[Teaticket]

Great Swallows guys! Looking in the Painting Showcase is getting expensive as I constantly have to buy more planes!

[Sashdash]

I know I can't compete with the outstanding paint jobs shown here by truly talented people.
I think these guys are real artists.

But I didn't want to hold back my first paint job from you.
I got my models from Shapeways (Kampfflieger).
Since I didn't know how they would come out, I ordered the lowest quality / lesser detailed version (White Strong & Flexible).
I need those models for play so the outcome is good enough for my purpose :)

Here are some pictures of the two "Schwalbe" Me 262:

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Sascha

P.S.: I know one of the bases is the wrong way around ;) Didn't you know that the "Schwalbe" had a reverse gear?:lol:

[LOOP]

I know the feeling, Sascha. It is easy to get cold feet when you see what the members pruduce here.
But you got nothing to be ashamed of. These are just wonderful :thumbsup:

Keep 'em coming Sascha.

[Sashdash]

I know the feeling, Sascha. It is easy to get cold feet when you see what the members pruduce here.
But you got nothing to be ashamed of. These are just wonderful :thumbsup:

Keep 'em coming Sascha.

Thanks for cheering me up Per-Gunnar. :thankyou:
The good thing is that painting those little models is really fun.

Sascha

[Guntruck]

They look good Sasha.:thumbsup:

[Sashdash]

As small game in between.;)

Who is the first to find the error in this painting scheme of a Revell Model?

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Have fun!
Sascha.

[Teaticket]

Looking good Sascha. One more reason for me to get some of these beauties.

[David Manley]

Who is the first to find the error in this painting scheme of a Revell Model?

Camo scheme looks completely wrong for "White 5"

[David Manley]

http://images.dragonhobby.com/PeddingHaus/EP850-1X.jpg

[Sashdash]

You're right, but this is not what I meant.
I guess the camo scheme was simplified for the younger builders ;)

No, besides this error. What could there be wrong on this paint scheme?


Camo scheme looks completely wrong for "White 5"

[David Manley]

No swastika

[Sashdash]

No, not quite.

You are not allowed to use the Swastika in some Countries.
Germany is one of them, so in this point the paint scheme for the Revell Modell is correct.


No swastika

[David Manley]

So the paint scheme isn't the scheme the aircraft carried, and it doesn't have all the markings that the original carried, and there's something else. Hmm, OK, I'll take another look :)

[David Manley]

Ah, the dark grey and light grey areas are reversed between the plan view and the port profile

[OldGuy59]

Ah, the dark grey and light grey areas are reversed between the plan view and the port profile

:sAprvd:

[Sashdash]

And the Winner is....

"Eagle eye" David :clap:

Someone at Revell didn't pay attention there before approving this document ;)


Ah, the dark grey and light grey areas are reversed between the plan view and the port profile

[Guntruck]

Here's a couple of Me 262 A-1A/U4s with 50mm cannon. Models are from HBM. Only 2 of these (possibly a third) were produced, only one was flown by Major Wilhelm Herget under combat conditions - 2 missions both unsuccessful due to gun jams. I've painted these up in a 'what-if' operational camouflage.

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=208099&d=1475168266

[matt56]

They look menacingly awesome, Steve - especially the rear banked 262 - love the colors!

I have to get working on my Schwalbe...

All the best,
Matt

[Gladeius]

Very Cool! I may have just found my next project. I'm going to claim new guy status when I ask if anyone has created a aircraft card and maneuver deck that I can get or print out?

[milcoll73]

those definitely fall under the heading so ugly its cool with the ginourmous barrel sticking out the front. reminds me of the old us civil war spar torpedoes. very cool!!!!

[Naharaht]

I imagine that carrying one of those 50 mm cannons significantly reduced the plane's performance.

Only two prototypes were equipped with the big gun. There is more about them on this weblink: https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/threads/info-on-me262-with-the-big-gun-in-the-nose.2905/

[Nightbomber]

Here's a couple of Me 262 A-1A/U4s with 50mm cannon. Models are from HBM. Only 2 of these (possibly a third) were produced, only one was flown by Major Wilhelm Herget under combat conditions - 2 missions both unsuccessful due to gun jams. I've painted these up in a 'what-if' operational camouflage.

Very nice birds of prey, Steve. Colours and camos are perfect. They would fit well in the game with...wait...DDDDDD/DDD?

[Future Pilot]

Very Cool! I may have just found my next project. I'm going to claim new guy status when I ask if anyone has created a aircraft card and maneuver deck that I can get or print out?

Just PM me your email address and I can send you one that I was sent.
-Daniel

[Future Pilot]

Here is some birdies that I have been working on
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[Future Pilot]

Right now I am waiting for the paint on the gray on the dry and also I am waiting to go get some white paint for the markings.

[Future Pilot]

Here they are all finished
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[Teaticket]

I like your pilot silhouettes. I may have to try that.

[clipper1801]

The White Knight, the elves caught him zooming across the work bench, twin Lorin ram jets flamed out . . .

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Streaking to altitude!

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Need some jet flames to add . . .

[Naharaht]

Your White Knight looks more like something out of Star Wars than a W.W.2 aircraft, David. :)

[clipper1801]

The Lorin ram jets came out late in the war, were flight tested on other planes . . . Very cool, give it a Google, should be good against the Red meanies from Mars . . .

[Future Pilot]

I like your pilot silhouettes. I may have to try that.

Thank you I just used a pen. Everything you see there except for the swastika and the pilot was hand painted.

[fox]

Here are two of them 1/144 Eduard
Black, green,grey,raw amber
https://i.servimg.com/u/f81/14/92/25/23/img_3917.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/14922523/736)
https://i.servimg.com/u/f81/14/92/25/23/img_3919.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/14922523/738)
https://i.servimg.com/u/f81/14/92/25/23/img_3921.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/14922523/740)
https://i.servimg.com/u/f81/14/92/25/23/img_3920.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/14922523/739)

[Teaticket]

Very nice. I really like the black one.

[fox]

Thank you

[milcoll73]

nice fox!

[Jeffmal]

I recently attempted a couple of these--Shapeways models, custom bases from Aerodrome Accessories, and downloaded pilot cards/movement decks here on forums. I look forward to trying them out! 286679286679

[Jeffmal]

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[Teaticket]

Nice. You've been a busy boy painting lately!

[milcoll73]

very nice jeff!!!

[Jeffmal]

Thank you!

[Sgt.]

Very nicely done

[chee911sc]

Une hirondelle ne fait pas le printemps… « dicton français » :confused:

One swallow does not make a springtime... And 6 "Schwalben"?

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"From BRS to WoG" or the transformation of 6 1/200th scale models designed for the Blood-Red-Skies rule.:fixit:

A Me 262 A-1 makes 12,5m of wingspan and 10,6m of length; that is to say in 1/200e 62mm of wingspan and 53 mm of length.
The 6 BRS miniatures are 61 x 52 mm ... côôl.:thumbsup: The RBS box is nevertheless to be advised because the rendering of the Me262 is very good

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The plastic is a bit soft, so some of the wings and tails are crooked. The molding presents unsightly vertical hollows along the fuselage: it is indeed the fashion to accentuate the pseudo-lines delimiting the plates. Moreover, some people underline with black wash these hollows whose proportions kept because of the 1/200th scale would make in reality 3 L x 3 cm of depth... berk!. The same highlighting is sometimes found on the camouflage of the wings... Fashion effect but very ugly. But this is only my humble opinion....:eek:
And good news, no propellers to glue :clap:like on BRS piston engine planes; just a pitot on the left wing tip; just in case for the propeller blades some (humble) advices : https://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/content.php?258-Official-Morane-Saulnier-MS-406-Painting-Thread

Of course it is necessary to adapt a specific WoG pin under the planes.

But the big drawback of the BRS series is the lack of a transparent canopy; everything is molded in one piece and to give the impression of the sky and the clouds on the plexi I don't know how to do it...

Solution: make a "cockpit canopy" from transparent plastic

So the + to achieve is to give the impression that there is a pilot in the plane.

HOW TO:
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Few supplies: Hot spring (candle), transparent plastic packaging sheets, small softwood block for template making, size +- 40 x 30 mm (diagram). Drill an oval hole of dimension L x M; make a rounding of shape D and F and fit (precision) directly on the fuselage of the Me 262. Sand and avoid sharp edges that will press the clear plastic onto the fuselage and cockpit shape.
Heat the rhodoid without darkening it, once it is very soft apply it to the aircraft and press it with the template so that the clear plastic "fits" the shape of the cockpit-fuselage. Make several tests to find the right temperature before pressing, advice: a dozen copies of molding for 6 aircraft is a wise precaution. The next step is to remove the plastic layer used as a canopy. Be careful ! It is irreversible we have no tool to « thicken ». It is not a question of "digging" a cockpit but of flattening the top up to the canopy-fuselage joint. Then you'll have to cut and fit the canopy to the aircraft as best you can, perhaps with one or two misses (hence the x12). Before gluing the transparent curves we will position a "pilot's head" with different colors imitating straps, leather helmet, glasses and dashboard color ... Give an atmosphere what! Once the gluing is done, puttying and painting of the canopy frames according to the original drawings.
Questions ?

Properly manage the priming and the background of the airbrush colors on the underside: especially in the order before and after gluing the canopy
Opt for the fine brush and delimitation with masking tape for the extrados and the camo.

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It is now a question of choosing the decals of the jets by diving into the recovery of decals because I do not have a specific board available. This is in my opinion the most interesting point to find an original painting.
The uncertainty of the interpretation of period B&W photos gives several possible base colors.

Me 262 A-1a III-EJG2 Lechfeld 3-1945.
Note that one way to hit the Me262s by the Allied fighters was to surprise the slowing jet in its approach to the field. The Luftwaffe countered by putting Flak along the approach corridor, then a Staffeln of FW190 D-9 on patrol over the Me 262 bases.
And a specific card (sorry I don't remember the name of the author) ) giving the usage info: Deck R* - resistance 20 - fire markers DDDD / DD.
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JG7 with two machines and blue-red identification bands: Me 262 A-1a 1 Maj R-Sinner III-JG7 Brandenburg-Briest 1-1945. The other 262 #4 is from a profile but no photo evidence on authenticity.
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ErprobungsKommando262 / EK262 "Nowotny" Lechfeld 7-1944
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Profile found of a night fighter intrados black matt without confirmation photo
Me 262 A-1a 2 10-NAG11 colors RLM82-81-22
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Patrol of two EK262 jets
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Patrol of the two JG7. No "post-combustion" to climb; only 2 x 900 Kg of thrust
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Article explaining the procedure of attack of the "Viermots" by the jets.
And demo with 5 miniatures behind a B-17G
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Oops finished! Put away the magnifying glass and the tweezers... It's small the 1/200th
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;)note that profiles and b&w images are from "Osprey", "Aerojournal" and "Avions"

[monse]

nice paintings and great presentation with documented sources.
REP targeted

[Guntruck]

If this isn't rep-worthy, I don't know what is :sAprvd:

[Teaticket]

All I can say is, WOW! I guess a lot of us will be sending our Swallows to you to put on canopies! ;)

[Jager]

Great work. Having done a few of them, I can say yours are much better.
:salute:
Karl

[milcoll73]

lovely flock of 262s chee!

[Flying Helmut]

Those - are - magnificent!!!! :clap::clap::clap:

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Most impressive work chee.
The canopy idea is genius.
Rob.

[mikeemagnus]

Brilliant Chee. Really enjoyed the "How To" even though I will probably never be able to emulate it in any way. And the finished aircraft are stunning. Congratulations on some outstanding modelling :)

[Larry R.]

Brilliant work, Chee. Very attractive and impressive Schwaben. Considering your success with the cockpit canopies, one wonders whether a person could create an entire plane this way? Perhaps a plane that is not available via the usual sources?

[chee911sc]

Thank you all for your feedback and impressions :thankyou: it's my pleasure to share this subject and these pictures


Considering your success with the cockpit canopies, one wonders whether a person could create an entire plane this way? Perhaps a plane that is not available via the usual sources?

The method is targeted on an existing cockpit whose shape is used as a mold to obtain the same thing in transparent... You get a small part of an airplane; not the whole one

[OldGuy59]

Cobbled together this line drawing for the 1a/U4:

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Then, realized Steve [Guntruck] posted the models. I could complete the card, but Steve has his own style...

And we don't have stats for the cannon?

I'm also going to take a stab at the Lorin Ramjet version. You'll see how that works out, soon I hope... Again, no stats.

[OldGuy59]

Not in the "White Knight" livery, and without a Maneuver Deck, but something for the Lorin Ram Jet plane:

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[Jager]

For the A1-U4, just have the guns as D/A (low rate of fire dropping the long range to an A)
For the Lorin Ram Jet plane, absolutely no data as this was just a paper project with no tests.
Karl

[Guntruck]

Cobbled together this line drawing for the 1a/U4:

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I could complete the card, but Steve has his own style...



You go for it if you want, Mike :D

[abovetheclouds]

Would anyone care to create a card for another Me 262B? I found and downloaded the Kurt Welter card that had 20 damage and R* maneuver deck, but I'd really appreciate a card for this particular plane.

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[CrashCraig]

Nice paint job :clap::thumbsup:

[abovetheclouds]

I wish I could take credit for having any kind of painting ability, but unfortunately I can't. I have to purchase pre-painted planes. This Me262B is a pre-painted 1/144th scale F-Toys kit. I wasn't sure which Me262 forum threads to use to ask for a custom card to be created.

[fox]

Hello
A few Me262 (12) for the next big game
( Me262 vs P51 D mustang and Me262 VS B24 liberator)
10 pilotes
JG7
https://i.servimg.com/u/f79/17/77/62/17/img_6411.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/17776217/6868)

KG(J) 54
https://i.servimg.com/u/f79/17/77/62/17/img_6410.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/17776217/6866)
https://i.servimg.com/u/f79/17/77/62/17/img_6418.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/17776217/6875)

I'm missing swastikas (on the way).
3 from KG(J)6 and last one of the KG(J) 54
https://i.servimg.com/u/f79/17/77/62/17/img_6417.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/17776217/6874)
https://i.servimg.com/u/f79/17/77/62/17/img_6416.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/17776217/6873)

+ 2 extra to enhance the table.
"Out of kerosene and parachute jump"
"Down"
https://i.servimg.com/u/f79/17/77/62/17/img_6412.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/17776217/6869)
https://i.servimg.com/u/f79/17/77/62/17/img_6413.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/17776217/6870)
https://i.servimg.com/u/f79/17/77/62/17/img_6414.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/17776217/6871)
https://i.servimg.com/u/f79/17/77/62/17/img_6415.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/17776217/6872)

[abovetheclouds]

Awesome looking Me 262s! Can't wait to see the Mustangs and Liberator.

[Jager]

Good ones there, Fox.
:thumbsup:
Karl

[Larry R.]

Excellent Me-262s, Fox. Looking forward to an exciting AAR!

[fox]

thank you, the libies are already there
https://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/showthread.php?20408-Official-Consolidated-B-24-Liberator-Painting-Thread&p=575551&viewfull=1#post575551
https://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/showthread.php?35573-Mission-combat-Box&highlight=liberator

[Teaticket]

Wow, really nice 262s!

[monse]

Impressive job painting.
Fast rep shot.

[CrashCraig]

Fox - your inbox is full.

[milcoll73]

nice work on the killer swallows fox!