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Oberst Hajj
07-13-2010, 02:26
The Flame and Smoke special damage markers are sold as a set. They simply slide over the top of one of the official flight pegs.

Flame Marker
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=6&pictureid=3230http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=6&pictureid=3216

The flame marker is laser cut from 3/16 (5mm) orange plastic. It has some detail etching on it to allow you to color it in with a crayon. I suggest using red to give the flame marker a little more visual appeal.

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=6&pictureid=3228http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=6&pictureid=3217

The smoke marker is laser cut from 1/8 (3mm) tinted plastic. It also has the detail etching on it. The tinted gray color give it a nice smoke look to it.

For those that might be interested, here are some shot of the development process for these.

Initial sketches

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=6&pictureid=2971

Paper prototypes

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=6&pictureid=2973http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=6&pictureid=2972


I personally took the time to paint my flame and smoke markers to make them look even better...

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=6&pictureid=3232http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=6&pictureid=3231

And a few shots of the markers in games.

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=180&pictureid=4215

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=180&pictureid=4214

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=180&pictureid=4213

ktodd
08-31-2010, 19:43
These look good! Now to order them.

Coog
09-01-2010, 04:39
Just recieved four sets. They look great. Can't wait to use them in a game.

Ritterton
09-09-2010, 16:27
Got a couple sets and the red/blue rulers - can't wait to use them in the 18 Sep WoW game I am hosting. One question Col, sir, any chance you are going to make a fire one for balloons???

tuladin
09-09-2010, 18:47
Just got a few sets and the rulers tuesday, too. Very high quality - nicer than I expected. Thanks, Colonel!

Oberst Hajj
09-09-2010, 23:29
Glad you guys liked them.

I've not thought about a fire maker for balloons... I'll kick that idea around for a while and see what I come up with.

jpsavieira
10-04-2010, 11:15
Hello from Portugal,
I've just ordered four sets, and i can´t wait for receiving and start using them...
José Paulo

Boney10
10-07-2010, 05:04
Just seen the markers on this site.
however it seem they are sold out, sooooo are more going to be available and do you post to Uk ?
Cheers
Chris

Oberst Hajj
10-08-2010, 22:47
Chris, yes and yes ;)

Raffvantye
10-09-2010, 08:17
They look nifty, the only problem is that you have to lift the plane off the base. This has caused the plane to be inadvertanly moved. One of our players made simiilar looking ones out of foam rubber, and the end is open so they can be attached and detached without having to move the plane.

Ritterton
10-09-2010, 08:56
@Raff - boy, didn't have that problem when we used them. What we did was hold the base down and lift just one of the sections off, then slid down the marker.

P.S. Colonel, Sir, still hoping for a balloon flame! :-)

Oberst Hajj
10-10-2010, 06:29
Yeah, we just put a finger on the base as well and all is good.

A balloon flame, or a balloon explosion??

Flying Officer Kyte
10-10-2010, 07:35
Yeah, we just put a finger on the base as well and all is good.

A balloon flame, or a balloon explosion??
Flame is more important because it is in play longer, but an explosion would be great as well for effect on the mission photos.:) Hint, hint, pretty please.:cool: Col. Sir. Grovel.
Rob.

Ritterton
10-10-2010, 08:58
I think I like Rob's suggestions Col, Sir. LOL :-)

Oberst Hajj
10-11-2010, 06:57
Humm, would have to think what a flame marker for a balloon would look like.

Raffvantye
10-11-2010, 08:55
I was thinking along the lines of the "Kiddies", and not adults, unless they've a pint in or two.

Oberst Hajj
10-11-2010, 15:35
Ahh, I just put them on for my kids when we play. Nothing is perfect I guess.

KiltedWolf
10-11-2010, 21:26
These markers were a big hit at the convention this weekend!

I'll post more about the convention in a separate thread later on.

Cheers!

DaveZee
10-12-2010, 11:42
Any idea when the flame and smoke counters will be back in stock?

Oberst Hajj
10-12-2010, 19:00
I was told some time this week from my shop... but I've heard that before! So, no I have no real clue :(

Pope
10-13-2010, 03:21
I was told some time this week from my shop... but I've heard that before! So, no I have no real clue :(

Fingers crossed, but I do like the way your shop makes it clear if an item is out of stock. One of my pet hates is to order an item on line and then find it's out, oftern with no accurate information on when it will be back in.

DaveZee
10-22-2010, 07:51
Any news? I'm jonesing to get some of these beauties - and they make great stocking stuffers! :)

Oberst Hajj
10-22-2010, 18:54
The update I got today was that they were working on my order.

Captain Knowitall
10-25-2010, 13:28
Ya, I'm holding out on placing an order until these and the two seater bases are back in stock.
I want to place an order for several of these and gimbal mounts, Two seater bases and a B17 stand and want to put it all under one order.

jpsavieira
11-03-2010, 02:48
Just recieved four sets. Great.

José Paulo Vieira

Wolf
12-17-2010, 09:56
Where can you get the markers and rules? What do they cost?

KiltedWolf
12-17-2010, 10:13
http://www.aerodromeaccessories.com/

And all your questions will be answered. Conversely, you could just click on the Aerodrome Accessories link at the top of page (in the header). Lots of neat stuff for sale -- and great quality!

Cheers!

STICK
02-04-2011, 07:23
ANy word when these will be in stock again or does anyone have any they would like to part with?

KiltedWolf
02-04-2011, 08:51
S-4 (http://www.aerodromeaccessories.com/) is out of quite a few things, so I feel there will be a drop shipment very soon. I too am looking for some markers for the next convention here in Tucson, and as prizes for an upcoming tournament.

No doubt the 20-year storm isn't helping matters...

Oberst Hajj
02-04-2011, 09:43
I am still hoping to have everything restocked some time this month... though it is looking like it might be into March to get everything back in stock.

The Red Baron
02-06-2011, 09:00
Is LITKO making anything for WoW yet ?

Could you use a 5# earth magnet and a ball bearing for plane mounts? I have like 2000 of the earth magnets, (use them on FoW tank turrets) and I could get ball bearings at one of the local hardware stores, ....

any thoughts ?

Oberst Hajj
02-06-2011, 09:10
Could you use a 5# earth magnet and a ball bearing for plane mounts? I have like 2000 of the earth magnets, (use them on FoW tank turrets) and I could get ball bearings at one of the local hardware stores, ....

any thoughts ?

See this thread for some ideas. (http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/showthread.php?1931-Gimbal-Mounts)

PKHansma
02-06-2011, 09:28
Is LITKO making anything for WoW yet ?
LITKO has several WOW compatable products, but they are not compatable with the Aerodrome Accessories. I have some of both, each has it's own +'s & -'s. It depends on what you feel is more important.

Tony Aguilar
02-08-2011, 07:39
Any word on when more of these will be available?:confused:

Oberst Hajj
02-08-2011, 08:57
See post #30 just a few up please.

The Red Baron
02-18-2011, 10:07
Let me know when....

Lugburz
06-08-2011, 14:39
Hey there! Is there an ETA on when we could expect prop rulers & flame / smoke markers to come back in stock? I would REALLY like to pick up some for a big game I have planned. Thanks!

Flying Officer Kyte
06-09-2011, 01:45
Hi Keegan. The Col expects to have the new stock in when he gets back from his vacation.
Rob.

Hunter
06-10-2011, 01:21
Hi Keegan. The Col expects to have the new stock in when he gets back from his vacation.
Rob.

I surely hope so!

norhiak
04-12-2012, 10:28
wow... nice work!

Too Bo Cu
04-16-2012, 18:18
They look great, but they're out of stock :(

Any idea when they'll be back in stock?

Cheers!

Oberst Hajj
04-16-2012, 19:44
Opps, they are in stock now. Sorry about that.

Hunter
04-20-2012, 02:44
Excellent!

sirosis o liver
04-20-2012, 03:06
they look great to me cant wait to get some

littlejohn
01-23-2013, 19:18
Just got a few packs of these and they are super cool!...many thanks!!

Oberst Hajj
01-23-2013, 20:53
Glad you like them Dave, and thanks for the order.

Popsical
07-28-2017, 03:27
Any idea when the fire and smoke markers will be back in stock?

surfimp
01-09-2018, 11:16
Is there any hope of these original, one-piece flame & smoke markers coming back available?

I have used the ACE three-piece, "3D" markers and simply don't care for them. Would love to order some additional original style ones if possible.

Otherwise I'll have to order the Litko product instead.

Thanks for considering!!

brdavis
01-09-2018, 18:15
Is there any hope of these original, one-piece flame & smoke markers coming back available?

I have used the ACE three-piece, "3D" markers and simply don't care for them. Would love to order some additional original style ones if possible.

Otherwise I'll have to order the Litko product instead.

Thanks for considering!!


+1
I'm interested in the single piece ones also.

Oberst Hajj
01-09-2018, 19:00
How many of each would you guys be looking for?

brdavis
01-09-2018, 19:56
I would take 3 each (flame & smoke) of the ones that fit the scout models. Did you have ones that are off-set to fit the bombers & giants also? I don't remember. If so I'd take 2 each in the bomber size and 1 giant size too.

surfimp
01-10-2018, 10:00
How many of each would you guys be looking for?

I’d be happy to get a dozen of each for the scout/fighter sized models.

Thanks!

Rabscallion
01-30-2018, 06:32
I'd be looking for some of these. not sure how many 10 for scouts and 5 for bombers maybe

flash
01-30-2018, 09:18
Count how many fire cards are in the decks first chaps :slysmile:

surfimp
01-30-2018, 09:27
Count how many fire cards are in the decks first chaps :slysmile:

Then multiply by the number of decks you and your mates own ;)

Oberst Hajj
01-31-2018, 13:42
I would take 3 each (flame & smoke) of the ones that fit the scout models. Did you have ones that are off-set to fit the bombers & giants also? I don't remember. If so I'd take 2 each in the bomber size and 1 giant size too.


I’d be happy to get a dozen of each for the scout/fighter sized models.

Thanks!


I'd be looking for some of these. not sure how many 10 for scouts and 5 for bombers maybe

Sorry for not replying sooner guys, I've been working 60+ hours every week this month. Things should calm down this coming week though and I'll see about getting some of these made up.

Brian, I never made off set versions of the old style, just larger ones to fit those pegs/planes.

surfimp
01-31-2018, 14:51
No worries Keith, I'll be ready when you're ready!

brdavis
01-31-2018, 15:30
Brian, I never made off set versions of the old style, just larger ones to fit those pegs/planes.

That sounds good, I'll just take a few of each size then. Thanks!

Rabscallion
02-01-2018, 04:39
I'll have 4 to fit the scouts and 2 for the bombers please

thank you

Filliped
01-17-2020, 15:18
How do I color the markers to look like the pictures in the aerodrome store? The images on the 1st post were disabled as I can’t see them

Oberst Hajj
01-17-2020, 15:23
How do I color the markers to look like the pictures in the aerodrome store? The images on the 1st post were disabled as I can’t see them

I hand painted those flame and smoke markers years ago. If you decide that you want to do this your self, I would suggest getting some very fine grain sandpaper and roughing them up to get the paint to adhere better. I would also put a clear coat sealer on them after you paint them. I've had those markers for years and they still look just as good today as they did back then.

Filliped
01-17-2020, 15:40
I hand painted those flame and smoke markers years ago. If you decide that you want to do this your self, I would suggest getting some very fine grain sandpaper and roughing them up to get the paint to adhere better. I would also put a clear coat sealer on them after you paint them. I've had those markers for years and they still look just as good today as they did back then.

So would you recommend paint? I saw something about crayons at the first post.

Oberst Hajj
01-17-2020, 19:29
That first post was for the old style markers that are no longer available. The new 3 part style does not have to be painted (I don't paint them), but they can be if you feel like making them more artistic/realistic looking.

camel crew
02-05-2020, 03:04
Hello Keith.

Quick question. On various AARs I've seen Archie explosions in a similar style/plastic to the flame/smoke counters. Is that you/Aerodrome or another enterprising member? Also how do I get them? :thumbsup:

Flying Helmut
02-05-2020, 03:29
Hello Keith.

Quick question. On various AARs I've seen Archie explosions in a similar style/plastic to the flame/smoke counters. Is that you/Aerodrome or another enterprising member? Also how do I get them? :thumbsup:

"Litko" make these - UK distributor here:- https://www.gamingenhancements.com/air-1/flak-markers?rq=flak

Oberst Hajj
02-05-2020, 03:38
Hello Keith.

Quick question. On various AARs I've seen Archie explosions in a similar style/plastic to the flame/smoke counters. Is that you/Aerodrome or another enterprising member? Also how do I get them? :thumbsup:

I used to make some years ago. They did not sell very well so I stopped making them :(

camel crew
02-06-2020, 01:41
just been on the website. so that's some Flack bursts, then the AA markers look great, then there's...……………. and so it goes on. Plus the flame smoke markers from the store site. Ta for the information

Flying Helmut
02-06-2020, 04:26
just been on the website. so that's some Flack bursts, then the AA markers look great, then there's...……………. and so it goes on. Plus the flame smoke markers from the store site. Ta for the information

The slippery slope steepens...….! ;)

MadMad17
05-28-2020, 10:37
I have a quick question on the smoke and fire markers... are they not generic? I am only seeing 0/400 and R.VI on the website... or are those just for the big boys and everything else is sold out?

Thanks!
Max

camelbeagle
05-28-2020, 12:11
Hi Max,
Litko has some smoke and flame markers that will work with Wings of Glory. October 2019 Workbench I showed how I made my work.

MadMad17
05-28-2020, 19:14
Hi Max,
Litko has some smoke and flame markers that will work with Wings of Glory. October 2019 Workbench I showed how I made my work.

Thank you!

Captain Knowitall
05-30-2020, 14:46
If you want some free ones to download and print out, check out the files section on Facebook at the "Official Wings of Glory" page. https://www.facebook.com/groups/FansOfWOG/ I have uploaded the image files for them if you wish to used them. All you need are either the metal alligator clips OR you can try using the small wooden clothesline clips. I got a bag of 50 of these little buggers for mounting wire for modding some airplanes for use in the Fighter Pilot game, and using their table version of the flight stands. I haven't tried glueing these paper flame and smoke markers to one yet. But I may do it for testing purposes tho.
Here is a link to that file there. https://www.facebook.com/groups/FansOfWOG/files/

Oberst Hajj
05-31-2020, 07:23
I have a quick question on the smoke and fire markers... are they not generic? I am only seeing 0/400 and R.VI on the website... or are those just for the big boys and everything else is sold out?

Thanks!
Max

Hi Max,

I was on vacation so I just saw you post. I am currently sold out of the scout sized flame and smoke markers, that is why they are not showing up on the site right now. I'll get more of those cut here soon. The 0/400 and R.VI are designed for the those planes and put the markers under the engines. Since my markers are three pieces, you simply remove a part to keep track of how long you poor pilot is burning for. :crash:

camel crew
09-07-2020, 06:54
Hello Keith

Will you put me down for 5 sets of Scout Flame/Smoke special damage markers when you next do/get them. No great rush but have you an "ish" date for them?

Ta everso

Iain

Oberst Hajj
09-08-2020, 04:36
I am going to try and get some cut this week and back on the site. I've got several things I need to restock in fact.

camel crew
09-08-2020, 05:02
I'll keep my eyes open for them to appear. Need a couple of Nieuport 17's to go with them :minis:

Oberst Hajj
09-14-2020, 03:52
I got a small amount cut and up on the site over the weekend. I'll try and get more this week if they sell out.

camel crew
09-14-2020, 04:17
Thanks Keith

Order sent. If you run out, hold the planes until you can send in one package. :thumbsup: oohh more planes :minis:;)

camelbeagle
09-14-2020, 05:20
Awesome!

Von Scharf
09-14-2020, 06:30
I got a small amount cut and up on the site over the weekend. I'll try and get more this week if they sell out.

Order placed! Now... about those hanger trays... ;)

MadMad17
09-15-2020, 16:51
Man, I was too slow! And there was much sadness

camel crew
09-17-2020, 07:00
Man, I was too slow! And there was much sadness

I think the only way we can all be happy is if we kidnap Keith, lock him in a room with lots of plastic, paints and models, so he could play (work) to his hearts content (and ours) oh and make a day 48 hours long. ;) Thanks for the stirling work you do for us all Keith :hatsoff::sAprvd:

Von Scharf
09-17-2020, 08:07
I think the only way we can all be happy is if we kidnap Keith, lock him in a room with lots of plastic, paints and models, so he could play (work) to his hearts content (and ours) oh and make a day 48 hours long. ;) Thanks for the stirling work you do for us all Keith :hatsoff::sAprvd:

I've seen his amazing shop and 3D laser cutter. It is a very impressive setup. Now if he just didn't have that pesky day job (he works for the same company as my wife), and he'll have to stop tending to this forum for sure, oh... and he'll definitely need to ship his family off somewhere so he can concentrate. We'll all have to pool our money to support him in the manner to which he is accustomed... :surrender:

Hedeby
09-20-2020, 00:46
Now if only he lived here in the U.K. he could be furloughed like half the workforce here, So the government pays him to not go to work, so he would need something to keep him busy... simple. All you have to do is move Keith, lol

camel crew
09-24-2020, 05:31
Keith

Order arrived today. All tickety boo at this end, very pleased. Ta everso Iain. Yeah more planes :thumbsup: :D:minis::minis::minis:

VonSquid
01-30-2021, 22:42
I just received my order of scout and Staaken markers, along with some other goodies. Everything looks great, a definite QOL and visual upgrade. I think I'll be wanting to order a second set for the Staaken so that I can have both engines marked as smoking or burning.