WGF Series 7 miniatures now on Pre-Order

[Oberst Hajj]

Ares announced that Series 7 for WGF is scheduled for release in February 2014. They can now be pre-ordered on the AA site (http://www.aerodromeaccessories.com/index.php/miniatures/wings-of-glory/wwi-miniatures-sets.html).

SPAD VII

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=116906&d=1385909546

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=116905&d=1385909546

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=116907&d=1385909547

Bristol F.2b Fighter

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=116913&d=1385909550

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=116912&d=1385909549

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=116911&d=1385909549

Albatros D.II

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=116908&d=1385909547

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=116910&d=1385909548

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=116909&d=1385909548

Halberstadt CL.II

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=116915&d=1385909551

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=116916&d=1385909551

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=116914&d=1385909550

[Blackronin]

Nice. My two favourite 2-seaters.

[somaliavet]

So are they releasing these at the same time as the Series 2 reprints?

[Oberst Hajj]

So are they releasing these at the same time as the Series 2 reprints?

Series 2 reprints will come after these. No set date on them yet.

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Great looking birds Herr Oberst.
I will get my order in tomorrow. It's a bit late tonight for doing that.
By the way, have you any idea what bases of yours would be right for the Halberstadt?
It looks like an ordinary two seater arc one will do!
Rob.

[Oberst Hajj]

Looks like a standard 2 seater base to me...

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=116913&d=1385909550http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=116915&d=1385909551

[MoonSylver]

W00T! Guynemer's Spad, Bristol F.2b's, Halberstadt CL.II's!!! All look great! :thumbsup:

[Biggles downunder]

Woo Hoo - celebrated the site being back up by ordering my set :)

[Captain Chum]

Very nice looking set of planes!

[Naharaht]

They look great. However, I thought that the halberstadt rear gunner would have been given a wider field of fire more or less equivalent to the Roland rear gunner because the top wing is so low. If you look at the photographs in Janes Fighting Aircraft of WW1 you will see what I mean.

[Oberst Hajj]

They look great. However, I thought that the halberstadt rear gunner would have been given a wider field of fire more or less equivalent to the Roland rear gunner because the top wing is so low. If you look at the photographs in Janes Fighting Aircraft of WW1 you will see what I mean.

It still could. The bases in these product shots are just mock ups for advertising. The actual bases might be different.

[tractorboy]

Spad 7s and Alb D2, along with the DH2 and Halb DIII will really round out 1916. Need the Roland CII, RE8 and N17 and it will be complete! Cant wait to get these. To pre-order, is that done on the regular site? I may just wait to get them at the Soldiery.

[Oberst Hajj]

Kirk, Pre-ordering is done in the normal way on the AA site. You guys play a lot at the Soldiery, so supporting them is a good option as well. Before I started selling the miniatures through the AA site, I bought my sets from the local game store and any doubles/repaints from online. Spitting the Series 50/50 is the best way to support two stores if one finds them self in that boat.

[Flying Officer Kyte]

They look great. However, I thought that the halberstadt rear gunner would have been given a wider field of fire more or less equivalent to the Roland rear gunner because the top wing is so low. If you look at the photographs in Janes Fighting Aircraft of WW1 you will see what I mean.

Yes Dave, I agree.
That is what prompted my question. I want to order the correct bases to go with the aircraft at the same time as the planes.
Do we know what stable the Albatros D11s are out of?
Rob.

[Oberst Hajj]

Rob, I should have advanced production samples of these birds in about a months time. Not positive that they will include production bases or not though.

And for those doing the math, that would make them a late Jan release.

[Willi Von Klugermann]

Very nice indeed.

[OldGuy59]

Pre-order is in.

End Jan? So much for it being a Christmas present. :p:cry:

Who am I kidding? I won't be playing with them until May, anyway, what with my College courses.

Mike :eek:

[Teaticket]

Ahhhh....12 more planes to welcome to my hanger. :)

[Zoe Brain]

Note that the Albatros D.II has 14 Damage - the Unofficial Aircraft Committee gave it 15 in a lineball decision. So we'll change it to 14, the D.I to 13.
Apart from that, the stats for both new types appear the same - the V deck is the stats committee's J* deck, apparently.

[Marechallannes]

They look great. However, I thought that the halberstadt rear gunner would have been given a wider field of fire more or less equivalent to the Roland rear gunner because the top wing is so low. If you look at the photographs in Janes Fighting Aircraft of WW1 you will see what I mean.

...or maybe the Halberstadt gets a 360 degree firing arc to the next higher altitude level like the LFG Roland C.II.

[Flying Officer Kyte]

The timing for me should be just about right for my birthday in March.
Rob.

[predhead]

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! Gotta get me some of those (and of course I will). Love the D.II and the SPAD VII, both sorely needed!

[billingspike]

They soon will be mine.....

[Archidamus]

And ordered :) Maybe they'll turn up in time for my birthday (early Feb) - at least, that's the excuse I shall use with SWMBO (and I hope that works :pray:)

[Oberst Hajj]

at least, that's the excuse I shall use with SWMBO (and I hope that works :pray:)

Good luck with that :D

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Good luck with that :D

I hope it is good luck as I am using the same excuse with Mrs K.
Rob.

[Nightbomber]

:D My preorder PayPal receipt has been read by my dear :waf: and I had to calm her down: "Easy, darling, these are $ not €.":please:

[fast.git]

Wow! Nice...

Great time for me to come back up for air! Looks like I'll need to make more room on the shelf...

Btw... cheers, mates! It's been far too long.


Chris

[Oberst Hajj]

:D My preorder PayPal receipt has been read by my dear :waf: and I had to calm her down: "Easy, darling, these are $ not €.":please:

Nice one!

[Biggles downunder]

Just in case you had never heard of Eustace Headlam: http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/B02177/?image=2

Make sure that you also click on the link to Image 1 on the page - it is a closer view of image 2. Maybe digitally enhanced?

[Timmo UK]

Wow! The SPADS look great but don't the CLII's look brilliant. The colours are so WW1, lived in sort of faded look. I'm really impressed. Less keen on the observer hiding but I might drill him out and replace with a figure.

Slightly disappointed by the Bristol Fighter. I'll buy a few and do some repainting to improve but at least there is a good model for the repainters. It's easy enough to wash some thin black paint over the silver guns and to paint int he grey engine cowling to give a bit more interest. The ID decals will be easy enough to paint over and add new ones. I also really like the DII and might look at pushing my collection earlier to justify these.

All-in-all a very strong showing I think and one that bodes really well for the future, after what I felt was a relatively lack Lustre series 6 (SSD's aside – they were fabulous).

[monty's double]

Oh man. Just when I think I have more than enough WW1 planes, these are announced. 2 seaters....... It's clear that's exactly what I am missing in my life.

Is it just me, or are those lovely mini's aeroplane pornography to any one else?

[ponderance]

Totally exiting! With all of the lovely WW2 planes I was starting to worry the WW1 set was taking a back seat. Clearly not!

Now they need to reprint the balloon busters set, I really want one of those!

[greenalfonzo]

Wish they would have come up with a more vibrant D.II. Certainly some of these survived to receive colorful individual markings more common with the D.III?

Also, could someone explain the blue tone of the Brit Spad?

Absolutely love the CL, and the FB.2 looks the part as well!

[fast.git]

Wish they would have come up with a more vibrant D.II. Certainly some of these survived to receive colorful individual markings more common with the D.III?

I can neither confirm nor contradict that point, but Zoe has already touched on this here: http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/showthread.php?6285-WWI-Albatros-D-II-Markings

Hope that helps!

[Hedeby]

At last - ever since I first saw the game I have wanted the Bristol Fighter.... happy at last, now all we need is the Mosquito for the WWII version

[Super Handley]

Wow... blown away with the quality of the paint jobs. My budget (too many kickstarters around Xmas time I'm afraid) will prohibit me from ordering all of them but this is the first set in a long time that I would if I could. The Haberstadt paint jobs are particularly good.

[CH_Brun]

woot woot!!! 12 more planes for me :D

[Gallo Rojo]

nice...

what is the difference (in the mini's look I mean) if any between SPAD-XIII and SPAD-VII (besides the fact that the later is armed with only one MMG)?
weren't the SPAD-VII wings more 'ronunded' on the edges? (or was it SPAD-XIII early type?)

[Flying Officer Kyte]

I can't find it right now Ezekiel, but there is a thread on here somewhere all about the difference between the two.
Rob.

[Oberst Hajj]

nice...

what is the difference (in the mini's look I mean) if any between SPAD-XIII and SPAD-VII (besides the fact that the later is armed with only one MMG)?
weren't the SPAD-VII wings more 'ronunded' on the edges? (or was it SPAD-XIII early type?)

SPAD XIII vs. SPAD VII
http://www.aerodromeaccessories.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/w/g/wgf101a.jpghttp://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=116906&d=1385909546

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[fast.git]

Pretty similar. I wonder... would a pilot engaged with a SPAD be able to tell the difference?

[7eat51]

Pretty similar.

So it's not just me. I was wondering what I was missing.

From the pictures, the only significant difference I see is around the engine when looking at the planes from the side.

These might be of interest:

http://science.howstuffworks.com/spad-vii-xiii.htm
http://riseofflight.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=22819

[Oberst Hajj]

I think the date of the engagement and the unit markings on the SPAD would be a bigger indication to the enemy pilot as to what he might be facing than the looks alone. I think the tail section is different enough to for a learned pilot to distinguish between the two.

[redcoon2]

Per a couple of other info sources, though visually similar in many aspects the VII and the XIII differed in several important aspects. Both were based on the same airframe, thus the appearance was strikingly similar. The speed, ceiling, and armament were improved in the XIII.

Introduced in August 1916, the VII topped out at 17500 ceiling with a Hispano-Suiza 8A V8 (150hp)...top speed was 119 mph...carried 1 Vickers .303 mg. Produced 5600...it was in service thru late 1917.

Introduced in September 1917, the XIII was faster and meaner...reached a 21800 ceiling with a larger His-Suiz 8BEc 8 liquid cooled inline 8 (235hp)...top speed was 138 mph...and carried bigger punch of two Vickers .303mg. Produced 8400...it was in combat thru the end of hostilities.

The two planes are virtually identical visually...the XIII is larger by a few inches in all dimensions...but has improved speed, power, endurance and firepower...plus improved vision for the pilot.

On a gaming table unless you have the microscopic eyesight to see the second Vickers on the XIII the only difference will be in the performance.

At least that's what I've found so far. Hope that helps.

[Naharaht]

The shape of the tail fins is the most noticeable difference.

[Captain Chum]

Well judging from the above pictures, the only noticeable difference I can see will be on the flight stand.
That's not a complaint mind you.....always welcome new planes. :)

[fast.git]

I've got a couple of questions about the upcoming releases, specifically in relation to their coloration.

I am assuming that the Bristol F.2B (Harvey/Waight) kite is representative of many F.2B squadrons. What about the Arkell/Skagg model? Does this represent a Brisfit employed as a nightfighter? And the two-tone coloring on the Headlam/Beaton bird? Was that common? And I have similar questions concerning the Halberstadt and SPAD models.

If I was considering some easily modify-able versions of these upcoming models (with the desire to field multiple kites from the same squadron), to which should I be looking?

If anyone has some expertise in this area, I'd greatly appreciate a little guidance.

Thanks!


Chris

[somaliavet]

nice...

what is the difference (in the mini's look I mean) if any between SPAD-XIII and SPAD-VII (besides the fact that the later is armed with only one MMG)?
weren't the SPAD-VII wings more 'ronunded' on the edges? (or was it SPAD-XIII early type?)

It was the early XIIIs that had the rounded wingtips, SPAD issued pocket extentions to square off the wingtips in order to improve lateral stability.

[Willi Von Klugermann]

I like the Halberstatds and Spads alot. I use 2 of the Halberstadt schemes for my personal skins in Rise of Flight. I'm getting a lot of kills in the Halb but I have twin Spandaus and Parabellums....too bad Ares is not making an A/A version.

[Super Handley]

Curious which Halberstad and which Bristol captures peoples' fancy the most?

[Captain Chum]

Curious which Halberstad and which Bristol captures peoples' fancy the most?

I like them all but I like the brown and white Bristol and the # 5 Halberstad the most.

[Jager]

I was disappointed that the 1 Bristol painted in standard colours had an over the wing MG mod; certainly used but not common. I'll have to cut it off for standard modding.
Karl

[flash]

It still could. The bases in these product shots are just mock ups for advertising. The actual bases might be different.

Any chance of finding out from Andrea or someone at Ares to confirm either way Keith?
The Halb certainly has this 'Roland type' capability; as does the Brisfit I've been informed, be a shame if they haven't but maybe good for AA !! ;)

[Flying Officer Kyte]

:eek: It won't be good for my pocket if they do,:money: because I have already bought a batch of the Oberst's bases ready for the release, going on the Brisfit existing cards.
Rob.

[Oberst Hajj]

Any chance of finding out from Andrea or someone at Ares to confirm either way Keith?
The Halb certainly has this 'Roland type' capability; as does the Brisfit I've been informed, be a shame if they haven't but maybe good for AA !! ;)

They are on holiday until the 7th, so I don't expect an answer very soon.


:eek: It won't be good for my pocket if they do,:money: because I have already bought a batch of the Oberst's bases ready for the release, going on the Brisfit existing cards.
Rob.

Now Rob, you know those bases would not go to waste. lol

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Now Rob, you know those bases would not go to waste. lol

And that worries me as well.:minis::money:
Rob.

[MoonSylver]

Curious which Halberstad and which Bristol captures peoples' fancy the most?

Couple of hard choices: For the Bristol I like the 3 tone job the best, but that night fighter is pretty slick too. on the Halb's I had been looking forward to that flame marked Red 3, BUT that orange & yellow stripe job is pretty choice looking... ;)

[Flying Officer Kyte]

As I already have done the Flame marked red three myself, it has to be the Orange and yellow one for me.
For the same reasons, I have gone for the only Bristol that I have not got which is the three colour one.
Rob.

[TGalante]

So just outta curiosity. When are these coming? I know it say "Jan"... But ares site says "Feb"... Doesn't matter to much, I'm pre-ordering anyway,

[Oberst Hajj]

Okay, they've pushed them a month already. I'll have to update the dates.

[Gallo Rojo]

Curious which Halberstad and which Bristol captures peoples' fancy the most?


Halberstad: Swarze/Schumm (Niemann/Kolodzicj is too 'circusy', for me, Schfll 23 too boring)

Bristol F2B: Healdman/Beaton would be my first choise -- Arkell/Stagg is cool too

[MoonSylver]

So just outta curiosity. When are these coming? I know it say "Jan"... But ares site says "Feb"... Doesn't matter to much, I'm pre-ordering anyway,


Okay, they've pushed them a month already. I'll have to update the dates.

AIIIEEEEE!!!! :crash: :brickwal: :lol:

[Gallo Rojo]

So just outta curiosity. When are these coming? I know it say "Jan"... But ares site says "Feb"... Doesn't matter to much, I'm pre-ordering anyway,


Okay, they've pushed them a month already. I'll have to update the dates.

so... no earlier than March... April if we're lucky ;)

[fast.git]

so... no earlier than March... April if we're lucky ;)

April wouldn't surprise me... but I'm hoping for late February or early March. :please: I'm also interested in news on the Series 2 reprints.

[Oberst Hajj]

April wouldn't surprise me... but I'm hoping for late February or early March. :please: I'm also interested in news on the Series 2 reprints.

I think we will see a pretty quick turn around between Series 7 and the reprint of Series 2. I've already confirmed that they are using the old Nexus molds for Series 2, so there is no delay in the molding part of that project.

[VonHope]

I love them I cant wait to get them

[fast.git]

I think we will see a pretty quick turn around between Series 7 and the reprint of Series 2. I've already confirmed that they are using the old Nexus molds for Series 2, so there is no delay in the molding part of that project.

Excellent... :thumbsup:

[Blackronin]

Ooouuuuuuhhhh kkkkkkaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!
My ongoing solo early war campaign will need the Albie II and the Spad 7 pretty soon.....
Just sayin'

[TGalante]

We all shouldn't mind the delay. This just gives us more time to hide more money in those secret wings of glory bank accounts we all hide from our wives... don't tell me I'm the only one who does that?

[Blackronin]

We all shouldn't mind the delay. This just gives us more time to hide more money in those secret wings of glory bank accounts we all hide from our wives... don't tell me I'm the only one who does that?

Sorry... Don't speak English... Don't understand what you are saying...

[fast.git]

Sorry... Don't speak English... Don't understand what you are saying...

:lol: :lol:

[DanjelRicci]

Uh, they're still coming up quicker than I expected! Neat planes, I really dig the grey Spad S.VII and the bicolor Bristol F.2B Fighter. I should preorder all four models asap!

[CaudronMahout]

Oooooooooooo, shiny!!!;)

[Super Handley]

Anyone know the story behind the grey Spad?

[fast.git]

Anyone know the story behind the grey Spad?

I don't know much... though I found a Wings Palette for this very aircraft: http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww1/f/257/9/1

Most 23 Squadron S.VIIs I've seen pictures of are not in this color, however. For example, F-toys has an S.VII in PC-10ish livery, and many of the color plates I've been able to dig up are either PC-10 uppers, camouflaged, or clear-doped fabric In fact, I've seen an S.VII with the same serial on the tail, in clear-doped fabric livery. So, the grey livery could be one person's interpretation of a black and white photo.

I think that's the way I'm leaning.

This site, btw, has some very nice color plates: http://www.wwiaviation.com/gallery-spad-vii.html

[Twisted_terrain]

Ooouuuuuuhhhh kkkkkkaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!
My ongoing solo early war campaign will need the Albie II and the Spad 7 pretty soon.....
Just sayin'
I should have looked at this thread properly, I was still working on Jan, my solo campaign is gonna be a bit sparce, my xtra camels, albie Dv. & focker tri's are in the order. :( That's what I get for trying to save on p&p. :)

[MoonSylver]

Anyone know the story behind the grey Spad?


I don't know much... though I found a Wings Palette for this very aircraft: http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww1/f/257/9/1

Most 23 Squadron S.VIIs I've seen pictures of are not in this color, however. For example, F-toys has an S.VII in PC-10ish livery, and many of the color plates I've been able to dig up are either PC-10 uppers, camouflaged, or clear-doped fabric In fact, I've seen an S.VII with the same serial on the tail, in clear-doped fabric livery. So, the grey livery could be one person's interpretation of a black and white photo.

I think that's the way I'm leaning.

This site, btw, has some very nice color plates: http://www.wwiaviation.com/gallery-spad-vii.html

I goggle'ed the serial # up recently & got a number of hits on pictures, the unit it flew with & such, but there is no mention of who the pilot was, & I do not believe it is known. :confused:

[Beer&pretzels]

Not one to complain, but somewhat disappointed not to see Cochran-Patrick.

[Biggles downunder]

I think we will see a pretty quick turn around between Series 7 and the reprint of Series 2. I've already confirmed that they are using the old Nexus molds for Series 2, so there is no delay in the molding part of that project.

Oh no, my credit card just emitted a clearly audible groan :eek:

[clipper1801]

Are we still looking at this "February"?

[Doug]

Are we still looking at this "February"?

Lets hope so!

[Twisted_terrain]

Had a look at the ares site last night, they're going to be releasing some new duel packs with the series 7 minis.

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Interesting. It was hinted at earlier that they may be taking a new angle on marketing.
Rob.

[Blackronin]

Where?
I can't find that info.

[greenalfonzo]

Had a look at the ares site last night, they're going to be releasing some new duel packs with the series 7 minis.

Oh that's interesting. Different paint schemes from singles? (One can hope!)

[fast.git]

Interesting. It was hinted at earlier that they may be taking a new angle on marketing.
Rob.

Cool. Hadn't heard that before. Any details available?

[Oberst Hajj]

Yes, should still be Feb.


Had a look at the ares site last night, they're going to be releasing some new duel packs with the series 7 minis.

I've not heard that either, where can we find this info?

[Twisted_terrain]

Ooops, sorry guys, I was a little worse for wear. It appears airplane packs equate to duel packs through my beer goggles.


Yes, should still be Feb.



I've not heard that either, where can we find this info?

[HTRAINo]

Looking forward to trying out a Brisfit. Oooooh the anticipation!!! :minis: Time to roll out the '2-holers' once again. :guns:

[fast.git]

Looking forward to trying out a Brisfit.
Totally. That and the CL.II are top of my list!


Not one to complain, but somewhat disappointed not to see Cochran-Patrick.
Agreed. Would have thought he was a rather easy choice, but no matter. Will K-C-P be an easy conversion, I wonder...? Think I need to go answer my own question!

[fast.git]

Will K-C-P be an easy conversion, I wonder...? Think I need to go answer my own question!

Outside of the red & white alternating strips on the nose of the S.VII, it shouldn't be all that difficult... didn't realize his was the SPAD on the front cover of Osprey's Duel #36!

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=118216&d=1388238987

[CH_Brun]

Got my series 7 planes today... Very nice paint shemes!

can't wait for a game :)

Thanks Keith!