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Khargor
06-28-2010, 09:11
I've run quite a few Games Workshop game system tournaments over the years and was thinking that it'd be fun to put together something for a WOW day so that players could meet and game against new opponents.

I'm friendly with my LGS owner in Cardiff (best mates for about 25 years) and his store has a gaming hall at the back that often runs WFB/W40k tournaments with up to 60 competitors playing on 6'x4' boards, so there would be plenty of room available to use. There are also a few WoW players in the local area as well so I thought I could maybe tempt some of the forum members here?

Just an idea at this stage:

1x day tournament in September/October on a saturday or sunday?

Minimum 12+ players to make it viable

Players select which nationality they will represent when they get their ticket Got to work out how to keep this balanced and will use a single plane of that nationality throughout the event - i.e if a player declares for Germany and wants to use a DR1, then they must use the DR1 in all missions that day.

Central Powers / Allies squadrons will be formed by nationalities Got to work out how to keep this balanced. Winning team for the event will be decided by the highest scoring team at the end of the day.

Squadrons will appoint a Squadron Leader (or other suitable title) to represent them

Squadrons will compete in 5 missions during the day

Missions will be played on 4'x4' boards Is that too big?

In each mission players score victory points for their squadron, 15x VP for winning, 10x VPs for a draw, 5x VPs for a lose in addition to a variable depending on the number of kills/bombs on target etc that they have achieved

Sqn Ldrs will be given a list of the enemy squadrons pilots and the planes they are using at before the first mission

Pilots will be paired against an enemy pilot by their Squadron Leaders at the start of each mission.

E.G:
German Sqn Ldr "I'm putting up Tom using his Pfalz for this mission on this table"
Allies Sqn Ldr "OK, and I'll put Dave and his camel against Tom on that board. Then I'll put Greg and his SPAD on this table - who are you putting against him?"

etc,etc

Mission 1 : Scouting Run
In preparation for a push to gain aerial superiority, commanders have issues directives that the area must be checked thoroughly by means of reconnaissance and photography to locate enemy positions and targets. Each player places a target counter on the board, at least 12" from an edge, and must photograph the enemy target by performing a stall maneuver over the enemy counter whilst preventing them from doing the same over theirs.

Mission 2 : Dogfight!
With the increase in aerial activity in the area comes an increased chance of coming across the enemy as single scouts forward to probe enemy reaction times and abilities. This is a plane vs plane straight dogfight to the death

Mission 3 : Bombs Away!
Both sides are sending troops and materiels up towards the front and the squadrons are scrambled to try to do as much damage as possible to the enemy and slow their advance. This is a pairs game with 2x pilots from each side competing to bomb the enemy targets (tanks, field guns, etc) that are on the board whilst preventing them from bombing your own tanks etc. For the sake of simplicity, each plane will be assumed to carry 3 bombs sound about right?. Players will not be able to talk to one another when playing but may use hand signals

Mission 4 : Stop the Bomber!
High Command have decided to bring in the bombers to bomb in depth and blunt the enemies big push by hopefully neutralising rear headquarters and other prime targets. Squadron pilots must get their bomber off the enemies deployment table edge whilst preventing the enemy bomber getting through their deployment edge. This is a pairs game with 2x pilots from each side competing to get their bomber off the board whilst stopping the enemy bomber doing the same. Pilots will be given a bomber model to use in addition to their own planes. Players will not be able to talk to one another when playing but may use hand signals during the mission

Mission 5 : Fighting Eagles
With the big ground push underway by both nationalities and warfare raging all across the frontline, the squadrons are scrambled to support the ground troops by clearing all enemies form the sky. This is a multiplayer game involving the complete squadrons of both sides. The mission will be played on a 12'x4' too big, too small? board and have bonus VPs in the form of barrage balloons etc

Their will be trophies for highest and 2nd highest scoring aces and, depending on numbers, medallions for the winning squadron.

If anyone was travelling any distance, the venue is literally 5 minutes walk from Cardiff Central train station and theres a cheap Premier Inn within 10 minutes walk...

What do you think? I know that I've only got a few games under my belt so far but reckon this could be a good day of gaming and I will have the resources to run it properly :D

WilliamBarkerVC
06-28-2010, 09:34
Great ideas. I am running a similar event in Red Deer on 18 September and am at the point of sorting out missions and balance. Some ofthe ideas I have had are teams of four, with at least one bomber in the team, teams of two, or bring a bomber and fighter for Germans/Allies and you will be paired up randomly. Thinking for my event of running multiple teams/players per table in various missions.

"The Big Furball" is the name of the event.

NeilCFord
06-28-2010, 09:46
Dependent on exactly when, I'd be up for this. Haven't been to Cardiff for quite some time, so could be fun.

- Neil.

Guntruck
06-29-2010, 01:14
Ditto, not been to Cardiff for a couple of years. Used to go on business once a month following the same route each time - Government Offices (the business bit) > wargame shop in the little alley opposite the castle > model shop on the main drag > Ian Allen's for something to read on the way back to London. Happy days :)

NeilCFord
06-29-2010, 01:51
wargame shop in the little alley opposite the castle

The Trading Post? Or was this after they closed?

Did a number of Magic: The Gathering events with them back in the day. Always ended up spending the evening in a pub or two ;)

- Neil.

Strangely Brown
06-29-2010, 02:47
I could be up for this depending on the date, but for me personaly, Saturday would be a better option.

Khargor
06-29-2010, 03:55
wargame shop in the little alley opposite the castle > model shop on the main drag >

I don't know if the wargame shop is still there anymore, but the modelling shop (Antics) is. We're be able to hold the WoW tournament at http://www.firestormgames.co.uk (http://www.firestormgames.co.uk/).

Ideally, I'd like to make it as easy as possible for aerodrome forum members to come along and take part so:

1. Which month would be better - September /October/ or November?

2. Which day would be better - saturday or sunday?

3. Do you think the missions will be entertaining enough?

Scotty
06-29-2010, 10:37
Hi All

I'm a new member to this forum and have just started playing WoW WW1 edition. I love the game and have been introducing my kids to it.

I live near cardiff and would very much like to attend this event if you'l have me.

Scotty

NeilCFord
06-29-2010, 11:34
Okay, in reverse order:

November - No can do :( I'm games coordinator for Dragonmeet and November is spent doing all the leg work ready for the con at the end of the month. I'm supposed to be at Indiecon at the beginning of the month as well.

October - Better. Have an rpg con in Sheffield in the middle of the month, but might skip that.

September - Best. Nothing in the diary as yet.

Saturday would be preferable. Mean I can travel down Friday evening, stay somewhere and be fresh for the games on the Saturday. Can then travel home Saturday evening and have Sunday to recover.

- Neil.

chub
07-04-2010, 09:56
October would be best for me, and to be awkward a Sunday would be better

Khargor
08-28-2010, 05:24
Because of preparations for going to Borneo the tournament was put on a backburner for a while (but not forgotten!). I've got a date sorted and booked but its going to be January 15th (saturday) as I want to make scenery etc for it and have enough time to advertise it on other forums and stores to get as many players as possible. Will this date be OK for you gents?

Hopefully I'll have a rulepack and more details over the next week or so :)

Shaun

Burt
08-28-2010, 08:12
I would be very interested in joining in depending on dates.

Don

Khargor
08-28-2010, 08:34
Hi Don

Hope you can make it - I've got the 15th Jan confirmed with the events manager at the gaming hall so there shouldn't be any changes to that so hopefully that'll make planning to get there a bit easier for those that are interested in taking part. It's also my birthday the day before so I'm hoping to go for a quiet drink in Cardiff to celebrate and, if anyone is staying that night before heading home on the sunday, invite them along and maybe swap stories of tournament daring-do's, etc

I've also got a few questions I'd like to get everyones opinions on if possible, the first one is:

Q1a. To balance the aircraft in terms of ability and to increase the variety of planes being used, is it worth bracketing the planes into categories (competitive and non-competitive bands) and giving a skill to the owning player of a plane that is regarded as non-competitive - i.e, all players taking a ** automatically gain the bullet-checker skill in each mission.

Q1b. If the bracketing is used, which planes should go into which category?

I'd like to pick all of your brains about these types of questions so I can make sure the tournament is as balanced, fair and fun as possible while still being a tournament rather than a campaign day. I do appreciate any help with this.

More questions to follow...

Burt
08-28-2010, 09:57
Hi Shaun,
I will note the 15th Jan on my calander, any idea of start/finish times.
I'm afraid I'm a bit of a novice when it comes to weighing planes against each other.
We usually just play fun encounter games, I seem to atract high scoring and explosion cards like a magnet.:mad:
Don

Charlie3
08-28-2010, 10:27
Hi Shaun...I will not be able to attend your event (too far to walk for me) however I do have a game balance suggestion for you. For the sake of allowing some leeway for the players to choose a favorite plane I would suggest only allowing mid war aircraft. Most of them have nearly the same speed ranges and damage amounts, yet there is still some wiggle room.

Good Luck Chaps! and have a Drink for me!!

Guntruck
08-28-2010, 10:49
Got it in the diary. :)

Scotty
08-29-2010, 06:11
I should be ok for this.

Is it at Firestorm Games?

Scott

Khargor
08-29-2010, 13:50
Is it at Firestorm Games?

Yep - am holding it in robs 'Battlefields' hall. Glad to hear you're hopefully coming along! :)

Snowy
08-29-2010, 17:47
Shaun, good luck with your event. Take photo's and share. I would love to see them.

Khargor
08-30-2010, 16:46
Take photo's and share

No problems - I'll take plenty of them and try to make sure I get ones of any forum members that take part :)

I'm working on the rulepack at the moment and have been having a bit of a re-think about the missions and time for each game, but am not sure if they're appealing to play. With the tournament starting at 9am and finishing at 6pm I think I can fit the following in:

Players are allocated to one of two squadrons, with each squadron commanded by a nominated player (I'm going to try to tempt Guntruck and F.O Kyte for these roles ;)) and having the same number of players in each squadron. One squadron for the Central Powers and one for the Allies. The Squadron Commanders will play in the missions and also help with rules queries (if any) and co-ordinate the duel match-ups, bomber pilot allocations, and who has the rockets in the last mission.

Mission 1. (30 minutes duration) Pair-ups between single opponents from each squadron. Simple quick duel.

Mission 2. (1 hour duration) 2x players teamed up against 2x opponent players. All players to be paired up. Simple 4x plane duel.

Mission 3. (1hr 30mins) Each squadron is divided into 2 groups. Each group secretly nominates 2x planes to have been fitted with cameras and are randomly assigned 4x objectives to photograph during the mission (hoping to have several objective-looking bits of scenery on each board to keep players guessing what their opponents will be photographing!). Victors determined by number of objectives photographed combined with the number of kills inflicted on the opponents. To count for victory purposes the photographing planes must survive at the end of the mission.

Mission 4. (1hr 30mins). Full Squadron VS Full Squadron. Each Squadron is allocated a bomber and must crew the bomber with the correct number of players as the bomber has crew (i.e 3 crew for a Gotha), with each player taking one of the roles of the bomber crew (i.e pilot, gunner, etc). Remaining players in each squadron to fly as escort. Bomber must perform successful bombing runs on various objectives. Victory determined by number of objectives bombed combined with the number of kills inflicted on the opponents.

Mission 5. (1hr 30mins). Full Squadron VS Full Squadron Duel with each side also having a Drachen Balloon to defend from opponents. 2x planes on each squadron nominated as 'balloon busters' and assumed to be armed with rockets. Victory determined by number of kills inflicted on the opponent combined with score for destroying enemys Drachen.

Squadron victory will be determined by the squadron with the highest score when all the scores from each mission are combined, and players individual scores (for kills, photographing, bombing etc) will be recorded each round and added together for their overall score with the highest scorer being declared winner. I'll have to work out something that doesn't penalise the players in the bombers compared to their comrades who are acting as wingmen and getting a chance to dogfight for their points.

Can anyone see any major problems with this set of missions? I really would like your opinions, even if you're not going to be coming.

Thanks,

Shaun

chub
09-17-2010, 09:32
My tickets booked I can't wait for this

big bald Al
09-26-2010, 12:51
Sorry if its been mentioned but how much to play? :) And how do i book?

Burt
09-26-2010, 14:15
Sorry if its been mentioned but how much to play? :) And how do i book?

Hi Big Bald Al

Have just booked my place.:)

The cost is £12.50 and book through http://www.firestormgames.co.uk in the 'Events @ the Battlefields' section

Don

Khargor
09-26-2010, 15:08
Sorry about the delay with this (was out showing some more beginners how to dogfight :)

I've put together a webpage with rulespack, etc on it here: The Time of Aces Tournament (http://stteilos.cardiff.sch.uk/~shaun/)

Hope its got everything on it - let me know if you've any questions as I may have missed something obvious

Shaun

Burt
09-29-2010, 11:28
Hi Khargor,
Which of the optional rules of Burning Drachens are you using for the tournament ?
Don

Khargor
09-29-2010, 13:37
I'm going to include altitude, tailing, special damage cards (including the 'instant death' card), bombing, 2x seater blind spots, strafing, and ace skills for 5x kills and not being shot down. The rules for rockets will also be used in the last mission as there are Drachens to be burst.

I think thats all of them as I can't think of any more optional rules that will be in play during the missions. If I have missed something let me know!:)

Pope
10-04-2010, 10:53
Just in case he gets missed off the list Ian Hapgood (German Flyer) paid for his ticket direct with Rob last week when he called in to Firestorm. Cheers Aled

Khargor
10-04-2010, 13:00
Thanks Aled, I've added him to the list here (http://stteilos.cardiff.sch.uk/~shaun/) :)

chub
10-04-2010, 13:31
So do all the other participants wish to share the choice of plane they are taking? Or are we all keeping it secret for the big day:p

Khargor
10-04-2010, 14:49
Once the entries are all in, I'll post who's taking what as I don't want to cause a disadvantage for those registering earlier than others. I will say that, so far, there's been a fairly pleasing spread of machines being used and thankfully the D VII's and Snipes aren't dominating :)

Pope
10-04-2010, 14:55
Hi Chub,

I had posted what I was taking but then read Khargor's post and did a quick edit job.

Cheers, Aled

Burt
10-04-2010, 15:13
Just noticed that page 5 of the rules pack has been altered to include all the optional rules that will be in use, for those people like me who printed it off a while ago.
Don

Khargor
10-04-2010, 15:25
Oops - sorry Don, I had meant to post that the optional rules had been clarified after your question earlier in the thread but I finished the clarifications late and uploaded them before calling it a night, and then forgot all about it :o

I've also had a request that we don't use the explosion card in the first game to prevent a player possibly being shot down on the first card drawn from the damage deck at the very start of the tournament - what do you gents think?

As a compromise I was going to suggest on the day that if the explosion card is drawn in the first 6 cards of the game, it's put back in and the deck shuffled. The player then takes a replacement card from the shuffled deck and suffers the damage then. If its the explosion card again then fate has spoken and down in flames they go, but I'm not sure that a compromise is needed as I don't want to cause any confusion or disgruntlement with the players...

Pope
10-04-2010, 15:44
I have a special ability to draw the instant death card :eek:, if it gets me I'll make the tea.

When I first saw it was to be used, I was against the idea but to be honest I like the idea now as it reflects the risks the flyers in WW1 were taking and the ever present chance of blowing up in mid air. Also as my son pointed out when I was talking to him about it we've all got an equal chance of picking the card.

Burt
10-04-2010, 23:44
I don,t mind if the explosion card stays and I,m an explosion magnet:eek:
Don

chub
10-05-2010, 00:20
I say keep it, like Aled said evryone has an equal chance of picking it

Trench Bucket
10-05-2010, 01:17
The only problem i see is with the damage decks, is it supply your own or do you get given a copied version from the organiser?

I know this is a game of fair players but in any sytem you get the "must wins at all cost" people could stack the decks etc.

Anyway i'm sure its all well in hand.

TB

Khargor
10-05-2010, 03:06
The only problem i see is with the damage decks, is it supply your own or do you get given a copied version from the organiser?


I'm intending to supply easch player taking part with an A deck and a B deck

Trench Bucket
10-05-2010, 03:18
Ah cool, should solve the problems.

Looking forward to it.


TB

Burt
10-05-2010, 09:13
How about naming our squadrons for the tournament
As a German flieger how about
Jasta Jacks (after CO) or
Jasta 666 (Die Teufel Geschwader)(The Devils Squadron)
Any other suggestions?
I'm sure you Englisch Chaps can come with some ideas too
Don

Khargor
10-05-2010, 10:40
I'm more than happy with squadron/Jasta names - anyone want to put some forward and we could vote on it if the majority of participants are up for the idea?

chub
10-05-2010, 10:58
I second Burt Jasta 666 Die Teufel Geshwader is an awesome name

Unofficially of course we could be Jacks Flying Circus

Trench Bucket
10-05-2010, 13:29
Well if it was a WW2 i think the allies could have taken Monty's Flying circus!

Though the top ace for the uk was Edward Mannock... so Mannocks Manic Melee Squadron in honour of the uk's top WW1 ace!

Cheers


T.B

Pope
10-06-2010, 03:19
How about ‘The Fighting Dragons’, as the event is being held in Wales and at the moment the four Allied players all have links to Wales (even if Chris from Birmingham is on a temporary student visa).

Cheers, Aled

Khargor
10-06-2010, 03:40
How about ‘The Fighting Dragons’,

Noooooo - we can't use that as I was going to use it for the Welsh Squadron on our monthly meetings starting this month (and our nickname for our aerodrome at firestormgames was going to be 'The Dragons Den'!).

Pope
10-06-2010, 03:44
Noooooo - we can't use that as I was going to use it for the Welsh Squadron on our monthly meetings starting this month (and our nickname for our aerodrome at firestormgames was going to be 'The Dragons Den'!).

Sounds fair to me so it's back to the drawing board. Cheers Aled

Pope
10-06-2010, 04:22
How about in honour of one of the RFC founding fathers 'The Trenchard Stars' (I know I'm clutching at straws, but my best idea had already been booked for a greater purpose).
Cheers Aled

Guntruck
10-06-2010, 05:27
I'm more than happy with squadron/Jasta names - anyone want to put some forward and we could vote on it if the majority of participants are up for the idea?

Die schwarzen Pinguine?

Pope
10-06-2010, 05:35
Die schwarzen Pinguine - if picked would Hapgood and Phil have to wear ****y bows?


it seems that the site filters don't like d i c k y bows perhaps bow ties is ok with the filter.

Boney10
10-07-2010, 04:30
Hi Chaps,
Just joined forum today and have seen this thread.
However cant see if this has actually taken place yet?
I live in Bristol an can easily use the M4 to get to Cardiff if not too late ( I say use M4 with tongue firmly in cheek ).
All the best Chris

Khargor
10-07-2010, 13:32
I know Shaun posted about saying what planes we were taking, but for those of us who go to Firestorm a list is on the wall with names, side and 1st choice plane

I just phoned rob to sort that out and he has suggested posting who's taking what to show potential players that they don't have to go the D VII or Snipe route to stand a chance, but I'd rather hear what those that have their tickets think of this as I'm just a little worried that later players may make their plane selection after seeing the list.

Should the squadron planes be open or closed lists? Let me know what you think...

Guntruck
10-07-2010, 13:44
I don't mind if folks know what I'll be bringing. I'm bringing along my Etrich Taube armed with a carbine.




And if you believe that.......:rolleyes:

chub
10-07-2010, 13:45
I think they should be open everyone seems to be going for the craic so I think there won't be to much power gaming.

Sod it I'll start I will be taking a DR I

Guntruck
10-07-2010, 13:49
Fair shout, I'm really bringing a Siemens Schuckert D.III.

Pope
10-07-2010, 13:52
I'm happy with open lists.

Maybe for future events we could utilise the comparison chart in the files, which gives all the common WW1 planes a points value and design a system around it.

Cheers, Aled

chub
10-07-2010, 13:57
@Steve sorry mate didn't mean to guilt you into saying what you were taking, your post appeared whilst I was typing :rolleyes:

Pope
10-08-2010, 00:19
Hi Chaps,
Just joined forum today and have seen this thread.
However cant see if this has actually taken place yet?
I live in Bristol an can easily use the M4 to get to Cardiff if not too late ( I say use M4 with tongue firmly in cheek ).
All the best Chris

Hi Boney,

Takes place 15th Jan 2011 so no problem there, tickets can be ordered online via www.firestormgames.co.uk go to the events link on the left hand side and click on Time of Aces and away you go.

Or you could cross the bridge on the 23rd October and come to the friendly/demo day that being run at Firestorm and sort your ticket out then.

Cheers,

Aled

Guntruck
10-08-2010, 05:35
@Steve sorry mate didn't mean to guilt you into saying what you were taking, your post appeared whilst I was typing :rolleyes:

Wasn't bothered one way or another if people knew. As you said, I'm there for the craic (and the beer). :)

grizzly
10-09-2010, 12:39
Hello, finally got around to registering to this forum :)

I'm really looking forward to 15 January.

I need to speak to Rob about an SE5a.

Pope
10-09-2010, 14:13
Hi Mark,

Glad you finally got round to joining the forum:). I blame you and Sabeel for getting me into WoW, but I'm glad you did.

Now the bad news Rob was out of SE A5's on Friday when I checked but hopes to get more in. If you want to try one out until they come in I can lend you one.

Cheers, Aled

grizzly
10-10-2010, 02:14
There's no rush to get the toys, I can't get to Firestorm until the 21st :(

filtonflyer
10-10-2010, 04:13
Afternoon all, What time will the demo day be running from.Im going to be over with the family doing abit of shopping so I thought i'd pop in.Also any suggestions for the best place to park.
Regards
Nick

Pope
10-10-2010, 06:35
Afternoon all, What time will the demo day be running from.Im going to be over with the family doing abit of shopping so I thought i'd pop in.Also any suggestions for the best place to park.
Regards
Nick

Hi Nick,
Rob normally opens from 10 am on the weekends and a lot of us will be down early on the 23rd.Firestorm has a small carpark just past it on the left handside. There is also off street parking but make sure you only park after Firestorm as the Traffic Wardens patrol the top of Trade Street which has a mixture of double yellows and time limited parking areas.
If your not sure, pop into when you get there and I'm sure Rob or one of the rest of us attending will point you in the right direction.
Cheers Aled

Pope
10-10-2010, 06:37
There's no rush to get the toys, I can't get to Firestorm until the 21st :(

Work or real life? Cheers Aled

Khargor
10-10-2010, 10:00
I've got to take my missus to Bristol Airport on the morning of the 23rd so I'll be at Firestorm about lunchtime. I phoned Rob to ask what WoW scenarios he was running and told me he didn't know as he was waiting to nab me to run the thing!

How about if I get something like this sorted:

12.30 - individual duels between pilots (just in case I'm late getting back from the airport)
1pm - 'Stealing Secrets' mission (multi-player)
2pm - Balloon Busting (multi-player)
3.30pm - Bombs Away! - stop the Handley Pages from bombing their objectives (multi-player)
5pm - Grudge Matches - time to settle scores and show who's the best pilot

I'm also thinking of running a league for Welsh Squadron pilots that will allow players to play competitive dogfights and fight for their position in the league rankings - maybe use the 23rd to kick it off? If so, should we just have a league day instead with something like the bombs away mission to break the say up from just being single player dogfights?

Anyone up for this?

grizzly
10-10-2010, 11:15
See you there :D

Pope
10-10-2010, 11:30
Hi Shaun,

I'd go with the generic day on the 23rd and some of us will be there from 10am to allow us to get loads of missions in. The reason I'd go for the generic day is that two or three non Welsh Squadron flyers have already indicated that they hope to come across on the 23rd. Plus there could be more non-forum players attending on the day and people who are just calling in as the day is being promoted as a Demo Day for people to try different systems or in some cases wargaming for the first time..

Of course those of us who already have the WoW bug will be happy to play some more serious games. But when I proposed the Demo theme to Rob for the birthday party weekend it was intended to try and attract new gamers to the hobby in general and get current gamers to have the chance to give other systems a try.

Cheers,

Aled

Burt
10-21-2010, 08:26
How are you doing for numbers for the tournament, there are still only nine people listed as taking part, is that enough?
Don

Pope
10-21-2010, 08:47
Hi Don,

I think from talking to Shaun last night the actual number is 14 not 9, it takes time for the details of people who book direct with the venue to be passed across and updated.

So seeing it's not being held until Jan, with 14 out of the current max of 18 places already being taken it's really good going. I have a feeling that a lot of people are going to miss out because they were too late in trying to get tickets.

We're all looking forward to it, see you there.

Cheers,

Aled

Scotty
10-21-2010, 09:13
Hi All

Will probably get down there about 2pm but will try to get there earlier if I can persuade the wife for an extended pass.

Scott

Burt
10-21-2010, 09:30
Hi Don,

I think from talking to Shaun last night the actual number is 14 not 9, it takes time for the details of people who book direct with the venue to be passed across and updated.

So seeing it's not being held until Jan, with 14 out of the current max of 18 places already being taken it's really good going. I have a feeling that a lot of people are going to miss out because they were too late in trying to get tickets.

We're all looking forward to it, see you there.

Cheers,

Aled

Glad to hear that you have plenty of people, I'm looking forward to it.:)
On present form I shall be a spectator for most of the time as I seem to get blown out of the sky with monotonous regularity.:(
Don

Khargor
11-07-2010, 12:43
Just a quick update - we now have 17 entrants taking part and (hopefully) a few more local players getting tickets in the next couple of weeks so its looking like we may hit the 24 player target (and I know I'm looking forward to seeing the final squadron VS squadron battle in the last round!:))

The Cowman
11-07-2010, 12:57
I would give a couple of toes to be able to cross the pond and come play with you guys... sounds like fun! Have a blast and shoot down a few for me! ;)

Boney10
11-07-2010, 13:07
Hi chaps, we should be getting our new roster posted soon so Ill be able to confirm if I am off or not.
Chris

Trench Bucket
11-08-2010, 04:31
Can't wait for January.

But will still need to play more games with full rules and not the basic ones


Cheers


TB

Pope
11-09-2010, 16:26
Hi David,

How are you fixed for a visit to the RAFA Club, Mountain Ash on Tuesday 16th and 23rd November for games using full rules?

We may even get to play with Shaun's heavy bombers :D

I've pm'd you the details.

Cheers,

Aled


Can't wait for January.

But will still need to play more games with full rules and not the basic ones


Cheers


TB

Trench Bucket
11-10-2010, 00:39
Okay i will seek approval from flight command (the little wife), but i don't see why i can't make those dates.

Need to start buying or printing off more kit for WOW!

Will let you know in the next few days.


Cheers


TB

Pope
11-10-2010, 07:41
Cheers TB hope to see you next Tuesday, Aled


Okay i will seek approval from flight command (the little wife), but i don't see why i can't make those dates.

Need to start buying or printing off more kit for WOW!

Will let you know in the next few days.


Cheers


TB

Trench Bucket
11-11-2010, 05:34
Aled

Looks like permission has been granted.... i will see you on the 16th!

"look out you have a focker on your tail!"


TB

Pope
11-11-2010, 06:13
Great news:)

The Pimms are on Shaun:D

Cheers Aled



Aled

Looks like permission has been granted.... i will see you on the 16th!

"look out you have a focker on your tail!"


TB

Khargor
11-11-2010, 11:27
We've made the 18 players target and I'm just trying to make sure that we can go up to the 24 player mark as I'd rather have a quality tournament for less players than a shoddy one for more players.

I'm now going to commit myself by announcing that the lunchtime gaming will be a little WofW project Scotty, Pope and myself are working on at the moment. We're not going to release the details until we've got it all sorted but we're all hoping that it's going to be something special and very enjoyable... ;)

chub
11-11-2010, 12:22
Damn I can't wait tell me know....:mad: I am really looking forward to this January can't come quick enough:D

Pope
11-11-2010, 16:14
I'm now going to commit myself by announcing that the lunchtime gaming will be a little WofW project Scotty, Pope and myself are working on at the moment. We're not going to release the details until we've got it all sorted but we're all hoping that it's going to be something special and very enjoyable... ;)

The work may require us to drink vast amounts of Gin:) and be away from our beloved partners for many hours :D while we work on Project X:cool:

Scotty
11-12-2010, 11:29
For the good of the mission we must do what must be done....Gin you say?

Pope
11-12-2010, 15:09
Gin, Vodka, Pimms, Larger or Beer, but we may have to check if Tom has any Pimms in stock:):):)

We may even have to subject our bodies to a take-away if needed to ensure the success of Project X.:cool:

Khargor
11-14-2010, 06:45
Just a quick update - we've increased the number of places to 24 as the original 18 are taken and there is still a lot of interest from other players. :)

Does anyone know what the record is for the most players/planes in a single game? :D


Damn I can't wait tell me know.... I am really looking forward to this January can't come quick enough

- did you manage to get a game against Darrell? I know he really wants to get over from NI for this one...

chub
11-14-2010, 07:08
- did you manage to get a game against Darrell? I know he really wants to get over from NI for this one...

Not yet unfortunately the last club day was a 40k Tournament

However on the plus side it looks like there might be a bit of a growing scene up in Larne.

Khargor
11-14-2010, 08:03
looks like there might be a bit of a growing scene up in Larne.

Is that the Arkham group?

chub
11-14-2010, 08:13
Is that the Arkham group?

Yep thats the one I am going up on sat as they are having a WW2 day and will be playing DoW

Khargor
11-14-2010, 08:41
Chubb: What about seeing if you can get them to put a team together and then get the Northern Wasters from Ballymena to put another one together, and then go and take them on - could be a lot of fun (especially if you could get players like Darrell, Ivan and Matt involved!):)

Since my last post we've just gone up to 19 players! I also made a clerical error on the list of participants (meaning I didn't proofread) and had our esteemed Guntruck on the list twice - once as Steve Jacks (Jasta Commander) and then as Steve Flak (Jasta pilot). Sorry if that confused you Steve - you're still Jasta Commander :). Aled, I've also put you down to lead the Triple Entente if you're happy with that?

Updated lists are available here (http://stteilos.cardiff.sch.uk/squirrel/files.php/public_html/index.htm)

So, do we have any nicknames for the rival squadrons? I liked 'The Black Penguins' for the Huns but don't know if thats what's been settled on?

chub
11-14-2010, 08:49
I never thought of that, Matt is interested so is Mark (you met him at the HNE event) Ivan however says no because there are no tanks involved:D

I will put my feelers out at this rate we will be able to hold our own Home nations tournament

Khargor
11-14-2010, 09:09
I will put my feelers out at this rate we will be able to hold our own Home nations tournament

Its already on the drawing board! If the Time of Aces works well, I'm hoping it'll then run as an annual event and then my next project is to try to put together a Home Nations style tournament as well with teams from England, Scotland, N.Ireland and Wales, and space the two events out by 6 months so players will have the 2 tournaments each year and plenty of time between for arranging clearance with their better halves. I just have to put out feelers to see if its viable for the other squadrons to put together a team...

The Welsh Squadron will be going on a foray next year to show FO Kyte and his motley squadron what we can do when we take them on (I know whats really going to happen - Aled will draw the explosion card, and scotty and I will collide and both crash before the English Squadron take any damage!:o:o). Why don't you join us as it'd be great to have a representative or two from our sister squadron? There's more details in the GB Flight forum here (http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/group.php?do=discuss&discussionid=109&pp=10) :)

chub
11-14-2010, 09:16
Its already on the drawing board! If the Time of Aces works well, I'm hoping it'll then run as an annual event and then my next project is to try to put together a Home Nations style tournament as well with teams from England, Scotland, N.Ireland and Wales, and space the two events out by 6 months so players will have the 2 tournaments each year and plenty of time between for arranging clearance with their better halves. I just have to put out feelers to see if its viable for the other squadrons to put together a team...

The Welsh Squadron will be going on a foray next year to show FO Kyte and his motley squadron what we can do when we take them on (I know whats really going to happen - Aled will draw the explosion card, and scotty and I will collide and both crash before the English Squadron take any damage!:o:o). Why don't you join us as it'd be great to have a representative or two from our sister squadron? There's more details in the GB Flight forum here (http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/group.php?do=discuss&discussionid=109&pp=10) :)

Mate give me the details and I am totally up for it, as it happens I am currently trying to persaude the wife to move to Wales :D

Colmarekblack
11-14-2010, 09:37
Am I mistaken in thinking I'm the only pilot with a SPAD 13 on the Entente side?

If so makes my new paint scheme redundant :(

Khargor
11-14-2010, 09:46
Am I mistaken in thinking I'm the only pilot with a SPAD 13 on the Entente side?

I'm afraid I don't have an up to date list of the planes being taken as some of the entrants haven't listed what they're using and I'm in the process of chasing them up for the details.

Pope
11-14-2010, 09:48
Aled, I've also put you down to lead the Triple Entente if you're happy with that?

No problem drinks are on me:):):)

chub
11-14-2010, 11:19
No problem drinks are on me:):):)
Dammit I want to change sides...

Pope
11-14-2010, 15:13
Dammit I want to change sides...

I think you'll be ok for a few drinks even if you are on the dark side:D in Time of Aces:).

Cheers Aled

JBParkland
11-15-2010, 12:45
Khargor, I'm trying to access the list of planes at the link http://stteilos.cardiff.sch.uk/squirrel/files.php/public_html/index.htm you attached to your 09:03 post yesterday, but it takes me to a login box. Is there another way I can access who's taking what plane (I've already registered my choice so there's no going back for me)? Thanks.

Pope
11-15-2010, 13:23
Hi Ralph,

Try the following link:

http://stteilos.cardiff.sch.uk/~shaun/

The link doesn't give details of the individual planes selected as there has been a fair bit of debate concerning the subject in the thread.

But is a direct link to what I think Shaun was intending to direct entrants towards. I'm sure that more updates will be heading our way from Shaun shortly.

Cheers, Aled


Khargor, I'm trying to access the list of planes at the link http://stteilos.cardiff.sch.uk/squirrel/files.php/public_html/index.htm you attached to your 09:03 post yesterday, but it takes me to a login box. Is there another way I can access who's taking what plane (I've already registered my choice so there's no going back for me)? Thanks.

JBParkland
11-15-2010, 13:36
Thanks, Aled. In that case I shall await further updates.

Pope
11-15-2010, 13:46
Thanks, Aled. In that case I shall await further updates.

Cheers Ralph, don't know why I typed Jim:o I altered it now but the drinks are on me. Aled

JBParkland
11-15-2010, 13:55
No problem, Aled - it's actually my fault as I'd just updated my profile to show my actual name (so it did say Jim when you wrote it). Apologies for any confusion.

I'll still take that drink, though!

Cheers, Ralph

Pope
11-16-2010, 02:09
Hi Ralph,
At least I know I'm not going mad:)
Cheers Aled

JBParkland
11-16-2010, 14:49
Shaun, Aled mentioned that you're planning an update to the Time of Aces rules, and I'd like to put in a petition for a change to the collision rules to use the Burning Drachans ones. The tournament rules have 2 planes colliding whenever bases overlap and planes are at the same altitude level, regardless of climb counters. Burning Drachans rules mean planes do not collide if they at the same level and one has no climb counters and the other has one or more climb counters.

Burning Drachans rules mean you can choose to take someone on at the same level without crashing into each other all the time, and planes on the same side can support each other with less fear of colliding. A try-out of the tournament rules I had with a friend resulted in loads of collisons followed by everyone flying at different levels, which meant a lack of actual shooting as everyone was at long range most of the time.

My personal preference would be to use the Burning Drachans rules (with 2 A cards for a collision as in the Balloon Busters rules so you don't need to provide C decks to every table if you're not anyway). However, I appreciate that I'm not used to the same level=collision rule so it might just be I need to get some more practice in with it!

Cheers,

Ralph

Pope
11-17-2010, 13:00
Hi Ralph,

I'm not sure if Shaun is still limited in his ability to use the computer (please see post in GB Flight) as he was unable to make the game on Tuesday due to work.

In the games I've had with Shaun we have always used the BD rules rather than the one in the Time of Aces rules pack. In the game with Trench Bucket, Grizzly, Scotty and myself on Tuesday night we used the BD rules.
To be honest I prefer the BD rules myself, but I'm sure Shaun will post a response asap.

Seems like there is a lot of practice games going on for Time of Aces, just a shame I got got shot to bits every game on Tuesday.

Cheers,

Aled

JBParkland
11-17-2010, 13:17
Thanks again, Aled. I'm glad I'm not alone on the BD rules - I shall await developments once Shaun is back online.

If it's any consolation I got shot to bits too!

Cheers,

Ralph

Khargor
11-24-2010, 12:18
My personal preference would be to use the Burning Drachans rules (with 2 A cards for a collision as in the Balloon Busters rules so you don't need to provide C decks to every table if you're not anyway).

Sorry about the delay replying but I've recently had problems using the computer for any length of time. We're going to use the BD rules for collisions in the Time of Aces and I'm hoping to have a C deck available for collisions on the day (I now know how brutal that deck can be as I drew an 8 damage last night in a collision! :rolleyes:)

As a quick update, rob from the LGS has now registered 21 players for the event with more interested in betting tickets so its looking good! Only problem seems to be some of the players wanting to swap over from one squadron to another (a minor problem I know :)).

Now I'm able to sit down without getting backache I'll be able to start on the board scenery and will upload some pictures as I progress with it

Pope
11-24-2010, 14:35
It's going to be fun seeing who blows up first. I think we should have a special prize for the first person shot down at Time of Aces - I think I'll be in the running.

Cheers Aled

MayorJim
11-24-2010, 15:54
Hi Chaps,
Just joined forum today and have seen this thread.
However cant see if this has actually taken place yet?
I live in Bristol an can easily use the M4 to get to Cardiff if not too late ( I say use M4 with tongue firmly in cheek ).
All the best Chris

The stateside folks are anxiously waiting for the results?

filtonflyer
11-24-2010, 16:35
Add me to the list im all paid up and eagerly awaiting my ass being handed to me in a basket. :)

Pope
11-25-2010, 06:19
Glad you could join in the fun Nick it should be a really good day:)

The way I'm going I should get shot down or blow myself up in the first 5 minutes of each game, so I'll be making the tea.

Shaun is in Germany until Sunday, but I'm sure he be updating everything on his return.

We're hoping to arrange a day if Firestorm Cardiff in the next couple of weeks to get some practice in for those who can make it.

Cheers,

Aled

filtonflyer
11-26-2010, 02:07
Any thoughts on a good plane and second back up to keep me alive, before I send you my pilot registration form.

Lucky Bryan
11-26-2010, 05:37
Shaun, I too wish you good luck with your event, and indeed take photo's and share.

Lucky.

Kiwi_Ace
11-26-2010, 12:46
great to see so many cool ideas for tournament play on this thread. Specific missions with competitive play between teams/countries r what elevates wow from a "cool 1-off- game experience" to "addictive strategy game with continuity and realism requiring teamwork and strategy to win" :) throw is a little historical "this actually happened type scenarios" and you will hook even more players into the great game.

chub
11-27-2010, 11:18
Any thoughts on a good plane and second back up to keep me alive, before I send you my pilot registration form.

I started a thread asking a similiar question here http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2274

But to cut it short the basic reply was whatever you have fun playing with which is why I am taking a DR1, the common consensus is we are all there for the craic:D:D:D:D

Khargor
11-29-2010, 13:31
Back from cold Cologne but haven't spoken to rob at FSG to see if theres been an increase from the 21 players, I'm now going for 30 players and want to set a benchmark for 'the most players taking part in a WofW game in the UK' :) unless anyone can let me know if this has been done before?


Any thoughts on a good plane and second back up to keep me alive, before I send you my pilot registration form.

Please take a plane that you like as its going to be competitive but friendly and I'm sure everyone will be sporting as opponents rather than uber-competitive.

As I'm sure the rest of the welsh squadron will be able to tell you, I play a camel against all comers and, if I have to go over to the darkside, I use a DR1 as I just love the planes! Personally, I'll have more respect for someone that comes last because they took their favourite but pretty duff plane and had a great day, than someone who comes first because they took a plane just to get an advantage over everyone else.

Project X may raise a few eyebrows at lunchtime but it should be fun!

Jon
11-29-2010, 23:28
I have changed my plane, not to get an advantage on anyone, but when i filled out the form 1st, i didn't own the plane im taking, and i like the colours on my Albatros D3

Khargor
11-30-2010, 12:22
No problem, I'm just waiting for rob to get back to me and I'll update the list of players and squadrons. :)

squiggie
12-02-2010, 09:34
Have booked ticket today. Will send registration details tonight. There are nearly 30 players now, as spoke to Rob.

filtonflyer
12-02-2010, 10:50
I will send my form in shortly im still undecided on what to fly yet as still getting to grips with most of the planes, Boney10 (chris) and myself had a bit of a practice session last night which was a great couple of hours Chris is going to post an after match report :).Is there a deadline on when the reg form has to be in.

Nick

Khargor
12-02-2010, 11:41
I'm trying to keep the closing deadline open as long as possible but it'll depend on when the t-shirt printers say there last order deadline will be. I should know more next week when I call in with them.

I've been trying to put together a logo that will be embroidered onto the left breast of the t-shirt but my paintshop/photoshop skills are pretty limited and I'm going to have to rely on their designer but if any of you can help out I'd be really grateful. I'm trying to have a hand of four ace cards (with the ace of spades on top) overlaid over a tri or bi-plane...

chub
12-02-2010, 13:31
I'm trying to keep the closing deadline open as long as possible but it'll depend on when the t-shirt printers say there last order deadline will be. I should know more next week when I call in with them.

I've been trying to put together a logo that will be embroidered onto the left toshop skills are pretty limited and I'm going to have to rely on their designer but if any of you can help out I'd be really grateful. I'm trying to have a hand of four ace cards (with the ace of spades on top) overlaid over a tri or bi-plane...

thats awesome mate and the idea of 30 birds flying alltogether is fantastic I realy cant wait:D

Khargor
12-08-2010, 12:05
Just another quick update:

Closing Date
The closing date for tickets will be 1pm on Christmas Eve to allow me to get the order into the t-shirt makers.

T-shirts
I'm hoping to have the electronic design of the tournament logo sent to me by Friday so I should be able to upload it here for everyone to see.

Number of participants
Just had confirmation that there are 26 players that have purchased the tickets and a few more still chatting about tickets but haven't got them yet. I've asked that players can't just reserve a ticket as I don't want to end up with spare t-shirts (and be even more out of pocket!) if players cancel at the the last moment and don't end up paying for the ticket.

Project X
The rules for our little 'Project X' that will be available to play at lunchtime were playtested last night and between Aled, Scotty and myself I think we've almost got it sorted. It really was great fun to play and I'm hoping that others are going to enjoy it as much as we did :)

Webcam
After chatting with rob, it seems that we may be able to stream the event via the web using a webcam. I'm going to try to find out what will be involved to do this but, fingers crossed, hopefully it can be done.

The question is - will anyone be interested in watching what's going on? If so, should the camera be moved around to different locations during the day? What would be more interesting to see - close ups of games in play or an overall view of the players?

I'll update the Time of Aces webpage with all the players and the changes between who's in what squadrons this weekend. I'm really hoping that we can get over the 30 player target... :)

Pope
12-13-2010, 11:47
I'm sure my wife would be happy to keep an eye on me from the comfort of home. Can you make sure that the till area is in a camera blackspot;)

Cheers, Aled

chub
12-13-2010, 12:57
I'm sure my wife would be happy to keep an eye on me from the comfort of home. Can you make sure that the till area is in a camera blackspot;)

Cheers, Aled
This wont be a problem for me as my wallet will likely be siezed by 'customs' prior to leaving the country:D

Pope
12-14-2010, 10:45
I know the feeling well. I claim that anything new belongs to the club and I'm just keeping it safe.

Cheers Aled

squiggie
12-14-2010, 23:56
When are you updating the ist of players? Am really looking
forward to meeting up in Cardiff.

Pope
12-15-2010, 05:05
When are you updating the ist of players? Am really looking
forward to meeting up in Cardiff.

Hi Neil,

Shaun was talking about it last night at the RAFA Club so it should be done quite soon:)

We're in the process of Asking Rob at Firestorm Games to open late on the Friday night so that we can get some practice and a beer or two in before the main event.

Are you staying down on the Fri or Sat night as we hope to arrange social events for both nights for local gamers and those that have made the effort to travel to play in Time of Aces.

Cheers Aled

Boney10
12-15-2010, 07:15
Hi aled, nows there's a thought making a weekend of it. Any cheapish accomodation close by ?

Pope
12-15-2010, 07:43
Chris, I'll findout about accomodation and post some information later in the week:)

Cheers, Aled

Burt
12-15-2010, 08:39
I would like to know about accomodation aswell and a beer or two sounds great.
I could do with all the practice I can get as I spend more time painting planes than flying them.
Don

squiggie
12-15-2010, 08:41
Hi Aled

Am coming come down to see the in-laws. They live in Dinas Powys so am only two stops away on train. Unsure if able to come to any social get together, but will enquire. Have you made 30 yet?

Neil

chub
12-15-2010, 11:14
A beer or two and a bit of practice on the friday sounds like an excellent prospect, as I should land in Cardiff some point in the afternoon

Khargor
12-29-2010, 14:10
The Christmas Eve deadline has passed and I'm in the process of checking all the entrants details (t-shirt sizes, etc) and will be able to update the participants list hopefully tomorrow once I've spoken to rob. We didn't quite make the 30 players mark as a couple of potential players didn't buy their tickets before the deadline, but I think that 26 is still healthy enough :o

I've been having a few problems making stands for the bombers (snapped pegs and then the magnetised ones just not being sturdy enough) so it's back to the D&T workshops when school reopens to try to get something sorted. Everything else is going smoothly with just a little more painting to do - the t-shirt logo came back for approval and I'm fairly happy with it. Originally it had the Aces in the centre of the playing cards but they just looked like 'blobs' after the uppermost card so the designer has put them in the corners like the one below:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/Khargor/WIngs%20of%20War/timeofaceslogoSmall.jpg

I've asked them to change the top card suite to spades in the final version.

So just a bit more painting (Gotha, Handley Page, A7v tanks), chasing up some entrants to see if they've decided which alliance they want to play for, and seeing if players are bringing their own damage decks for their planes and its almost sorted!:o

Burt
12-30-2010, 03:55
26 people sounds pretty good to me, will this be a record for the UK?
The t-shirt logo looks great.
Are you going to produce a final list of all the participants.
Are there any changes to the Time of Aces web page that the players should be aware of
Looking forward to a good bash.
See you next year
Don

Khargor
12-30-2010, 05:14
Are you going to produce a final list of all the participants.

I've got the full list of players now but some of them haven't decided their allegiance yet so I'm actively chasing them before I can update the web page.

Here's the pilots:

Mark Manwaring
Stewart Young
Phil Johansson
Don Lancaster
Aled Roberts
James Robert
Chris Tempest
Steve Flack
Simon King
Ken Butt
Jon Cali
John Johansson
Scott Edwards
David Phillips
Chris Miller
Steve Kerslake
Jon Howe
Ralph Graham-Leigh
Ian Hapgood
Guy Lovelock
John Donovan
Gareth Lewis
Nicolas Carnell
Chris Haigh
Neil Howard
Pat Sweeney

If anyone attending is reading this and hasn't yet received an email/PM/phone call from me to confirm their allegiance, plane being used, if they're bring their own damage decks, and t-shirt size could you please get in touch and re-confirm so I can ensure there's no mistakes (especially t-shirt sizes after the Christmas festivities!! :) )

If anyone needs accommodation details also let me know as well as what time/day you're expecting to get to Cardiff as there are several hotels very close to both Cardiff Central Station Station and Firestorm Games. If you're driving in then make sure you watch out for the speed cameras in Cardiff as there's quite a few!

Pope
12-31-2010, 03:01
If anyone is staying in Cardiff or the local area on the Friday and or Saturday night could they let us know so we can work out if there is enough interest in asking Rob to open Firestorm Games late on the Friday night. Which would allow us to get some practice in and the prospect of a few beers to steady the nerves.

Cheers,

Aled

Pope
01-14-2011, 14:05
Just under 11 hours to go, Good Luck everyone.

Cheers,

Aled

chub
01-14-2011, 14:19
good luck guys unfortunately I had to dropout at the last minute but I hope you all have fun and I expect pics

David Manley
01-14-2011, 14:28
Just putting the finishing touches to my Brisfit and Walfisch for tomorrow (not sure which side I'm playing yet)

Strangely Brown
01-14-2011, 14:29
I have just completed my kit check and am now settling down in a loft next to the chateau.

...so until the Dawn Patrol Gentlemen, good night!

Khargor
01-15-2011, 03:17
The tournament has started with 22 players and the first round has been fought! The Triple Entente have scored 37 against the Central Powers score of 30. The Sitting duck Award has already been won as the first drawn damage card of the tournament was an explosion - to make matters worse, the pilot had only lasted 4 minutes before he drew it!

We haven't bothered with the webcam but I'm taking photos as the day progresses with the first batch below (WARNING - I accept no responsibility for any mental scarring cause by looking at the photos of the bunch of renegades that are taking part!!)

Round 1:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/Khargor/WIngs%20of%20War/DSC01045Small.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/Khargor/WIngs%20of%20War/DSC01046Small.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/Khargor/WIngs%20of%20War/DSC01047Small.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/Khargor/WIngs%20of%20War/DSC01048Small.jpg

We're on to the pairs mission now and, as I type this, I've just heard 4 grown men debating the noise a french plane makes before they settled on it making a 'wine-ing' sound!

More photos and results to follow...

Khargor
01-15-2011, 04:49
Round 2 is over and the Wingmen mission was a success with plenty of groaning and cheering depending on the dogfighting :) The scores stand at Triple Entente 77pts and the Central Powers at 67pts

As promised, here's some more photos (sorry they're so dark but I'm using my phone camera - I should have some better quality ones given emailed to me after the event)

Round 3 Photo-recce mission

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/Khargor/WIngs%20of%20War/DSC01054Small.jpg
Secret Squadron discussions!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/Khargor/WIngs%20of%20War/DSC01055Small.jpg
Board 1 targets

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/Khargor/WIngs%20of%20War/DSC01056Small.jpg
Board 2 targets

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/Khargor/WIngs%20of%20War/DSC01058Small.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/Khargor/WIngs%20of%20War/DSC01059Small.jpg

I'll try to sort something out about the blur with the camera for the next batch I upload. More to follow...

Khargor
01-15-2011, 11:48
I lost wireless connection at the store (and it got hectic towards the end) so I didn't manage to get any more photos uploaded. I'm back home now and will be able to upload more later on once I've unpacked and sorted myself out. The day seemed a great success and already we're working on the next ones (a campaign day in 6 months time and the Time of Aces tournament in 12 months), and I've also learned a lot that needs to be applied in future - for example, 24x players playing in one game can result in a slow pace at the start until a few planes are shot down.

Can I just say a BIG thank you to everyone that came - I was so envious of the fun they were having and, once my hangover had left me, I desperately wanted to be playing in the games and not running the event! It was great to meet some of the forum regulars and the level of camaraderie was brilliant :)

Congratulations to Neil Howard on coming first with his 'perfect score' of maximum points in every game as well as qualifying as an Ace with his 6x kills, and to James (Popes son) for coming second place and also qualifying as an Ace - he beat his old man to second place by 1x kill!! (Pope got quite a bit of stick for that one:) ).

A 'Thank you' must also go to Boney10 and Aled for all the help they gave as squadron commanders and (in Boneys case) as 'decal applier'!

Photos and results sheet to follow...

PS found out why the photos weren't good - I had the macro option on!

Pope
01-15-2011, 12:33
Thanks to Shaun and everyone for a great day, my wife is busy letting everyone know James (Dragon Sniper) beat me today. I'll have to wait till the summer event to try and restore my pride.

Once again thanks to everyone and I hope you all had a great time and at least now we can put a face to a lot of names on the forum.

Cheers,

Aled

Colmarekblack
01-15-2011, 15:31
Thanks once again to Shaun for organising this tournament. Everyone involved was very friendly and remained cheerfully upbeat even in the chaos of the bomber mission and constantly blowing up spectacularly (a very unlucky DR.1).

The highlight for me was the bomber raid with the subsequent squadron vs squadron dogfight. That mission alone for me highlighted the chaos of mass air combat in WW1. In the end everyone largely abandoning the plan and focusing on there own personal battles. Shooting down the 2 D7s in the final dogfight was a major surprise but over extended myself by going for a wounded Pfalz whilst my SPAD was on 2 heath. I ended the tournament on a respectable 4 kills.

Will gladly participate in any further events maybe even become an ace one day :P.

Toddie
01-15-2011, 16:01
I know I am just echoing everyone else but a big thanks to Shaun for such a wonderful day. Must admit I felt a tiny bit ashamed in drawing my pay in the bombing mission all I was in our bomber was a passenger drew 3 cards all game. Can't wait for the next one hopefully I might get a kill.

David Manley
01-16-2011, 00:12
Another vote of thanks to Shaun for al of his sterling efforts in running a highly successful day, to the Squadron Leaders for their help, support and guidance, and to all of the players for making it such an enjoyable event. The high spot for me was my poor old Roland shooting down and Brisfit and a Camel in the second scenario - a peak that wasn't to be repeated during the rest of the day, athough the photo recce mission was quite fun, taking all those snaps whilst all hell was breaking loose many levels below me :)

Burt
01-16-2011, 01:29
Thanks for all the hard work Shaun.
I had a great day despite feeling under the weather.
I will look forward to the next event, hope I can make it.
Don

Dragon Sniper
01-16-2011, 04:20
Thanks everyone I really enjoyed my first tournament and congratulations to Neil on getting first place.

Dragon Sniper

Khargor
01-16-2011, 06:08
Thanks for the support gents - I've already starting tweaking the rulespack for next year and jotting ideas down for the summer event :)

Here's some better quality photos taken by Ken:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/Khargor/WIngs%20of%20War/DSCF3135Small.jpg
Never was a more scary bunch of renegades and reprobates assembled in one place without barbed wire and steel doors containing them!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/Khargor/WIngs%20of%20War/DSCF3139Small.jpg

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A flyover photo of some of the combatants planes (yep - I didn't get the Gotha finished in time...)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/Khargor/WIngs%20of%20War/DSCF3161Small.jpg
The Huns in the Sun and their bullet magnets (you don't want to know how many explosion cards they drew over the day!:))

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/Khargor/WIngs%20of%20War/DSCF3167Small.jpg
The worthy opponents in the Central Powers Sqaudron

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/Khargor/WIngs%20of%20War/DSCF3169Small.jpg
The winning Squadron pilots of the Triple Entente

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In Second Place with 5x kills (beating his old man by 1pt!)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/Khargor/WIngs%20of%20War/DSCF3172Small.jpg
The winner with his perfect Mission score of 25 out of 25 and 6 kills under his belt - Neil Howard

David Manley
01-16-2011, 07:09
A few suggestions for next time.

In the bomber scenario, split each team into two and play on 2 tables. Have one team escort a bomber on a raid, whilst the second team defends against an incoming bomber attack. Have the bomber run on “autopilot”, (e.g. flies a pre-plotted course to the target, passes over, assume the bomber pilot knows what he’s doing so no need to actually roll for hits, bomber then turns for home, gunners shoot at the closest available target) and have all the players flying their own aircraft. For added fun allow the Squadron Leaders to allocate more planes to one mission and less to another.

Some form of handicap system might be useful, else I suspect next time the skies will be full of Snipes, DH4s and Br 14s :) That said, nothing comes to mind on this just now.

I‘d be tempted to tinker with the points system to emphasise survival a bit more. Say ½ points if your aircraft is downed.

And award points to the players taking photos in the photo recce mission. They have a job to do that’s important and which stops them seeking air to air kills, so give them 1 point per photo that they take and get off the board with.

Scotty
01-16-2011, 07:27
Hi all
Cheers to Khargor for a great day! I had a blast. on a more somber note. If anyone finds they have an extra No13 card in their A damage deck could you please let me know. I lent out my deck on the day and it came back back missing a card. sad face.

Cheers

Scotty

Guntruck
01-16-2011, 07:28
Looks like a good time was had by all. Sorry I couldn't make it :(

flash
01-16-2011, 08:56
Well done Shaun & well done to all the chaps that could make it - what a motley crew, or, should that be Mutley Crew?!

http://wba.theoffside.com/files/2010/02/Mutley.gif

Khargor
01-16-2011, 11:14
If anyone finds they have an extra No13 card in their A damage deck could you please let me know

I have a look through my cards in case its mixed up with all the cards I lent out and, if its not, I'll get something sorted to replace the missing card. :)

Pope
01-16-2011, 11:18
Thanks to Chris Tempest (Colmareblack) for posting his photo's of Time of Aces on the forum. I viewed them via the community link on the top left of each page or I'm sure you could view them via his profile page.

It would be great if others who took photo's could add them to the site so we can compose an album of the highlights from Time of Aces. If you let me know it would be fantastic either via a post in this thread or via a pm etc.

Cheers,

Aled

Colmarekblack
01-16-2011, 12:08
Thanks Pope. I'd prefer if they were of better quality, but cameras on mobile phones aren't renowned for there HD quality :P. Hope you enjoy the images and would love to see other peoples pictures of the events battles.

Boney10
01-16-2011, 12:53
Ill check through my cards too, but all mine were in sleeves.
Anyone end up with more range rulers? Im diffi one of each :)

Khargor
01-16-2011, 13:09
Here's the final scoresheet from the day:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/Khargor/WIngs%20of%20War/Scoresheetinjpeg-1.jpg

(Notice the Triple Entente beating the Central Powers by almost double the score - ouch! :))

Burt
01-16-2011, 14:59
Hate to point this out but I made a mistake on my score sheet, my last mission score should have been 3, I mistakenly added in the two kills in that round and they where added in again in the last column.
Oops!
That makes the Central Powers overall score even worse. :(
Don Lancaster

Pope
01-16-2011, 17:33
I wouldn't worry about it Don it's easy to make mistakes.

Cheers Aled

CappyTom
01-16-2011, 19:06
Looks like you all had a blast. So what are those sheets your all have in the group photo?

David Manley
01-16-2011, 22:09
I've uploaded the few photos I took to an album. I didn't take that many as my camera battery was knackered, and it doesn't like low light conditions that much. Should have taken the canon, but SWMBO had dibs on if for the day :)

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/album.php?albumid=406

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8167&d=1295244378

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http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8160&d=1295244352
Note the "spectral" Gotha in that one! Forget the "Angels of Mons" - We had the Angel of the Luftstreitkräfte!. Didn't do anyhting to help its survivability though :)

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8159&d=1295244348

Pope
01-16-2011, 23:36
Thanks David for downloading the photo's and Tom the answer is attendance certificates for those who took part, winner and runner up certificates and one for the winning squadron leader.

Cheers,

Aled

Flying Officer Kyte
01-17-2011, 00:22
Sorry that I'm a bit late getting in my congratulations on what was obviously a very sucessful games day. Congratulations to the Allies for giving the Central Powers such a good trouncing. Remember Bloody April. A mention in dispatches for you all.
Well done chaps.
Wingco Kyte.

Pope
01-17-2011, 03:27
Before we forget on behalf of Shaun, Chris and myself a big thank you to Scott (Scotty), Mark (grizzly) and David (Trench Bucket) for all the work that they did before and during Time of Aces.

Cheers Lads your all stars and I think Shaun is giving us a week off before we start planning the next one(s), I think he is trying to work out how big a table we'll need to fit an Airship on and 12 planes trying to shot it out of the skies.

Cheers, Aled

Boney10
01-17-2011, 03:55
Here Here I second that, to all the behind the scenes chappies, made it a well worth day.
Chris

filtonflyer
01-17-2011, 11:39
Looks like it was a fantastic day hats off to all the boys, still gutted work crapped all over my plans.Thanks for posting the photos.
Nick

Khargor
01-18-2011, 06:33
I'm already working on next years event rulespack with some different missions involved (I especially like the 'automated bomber' moving across the board idea) and will post the details as soon as I get some of the ideas playtested (Pope, Scotty and Boney10: you've just volunteered yourselves!:)). It's hopefully going to get bigger and better!

Again, thanks to everyone for their support in making this happen. Without the positive feedback and encouragement from this forum I probably would have thought I wouldn't have got enough players to make it viable, and watching the laughs and fun on the day has made me certain that this should be run again on an annual basis. The initial idea is that we have the Time of Aces in Januarys and a campaign day in June so theres and event in Cardiff every 6 months :)

David Manley
01-18-2011, 09:48
The "autobomber" is an idea that I've been working into a WW2 set of air combat rules that I'm publishing with steve blease at Wessex Games. The idea there was to play out fighter attacks against bomber streams but let the players oncentraing on what they enjoyed most - driving Fw190s and "Little Friends". We also have a scrolling table in that one, but then again the mission imperatives and aircraft speeds are such that it is really needed. I guess it would work for WoW WW2 9which i have yet to try)

Flying Officer Kyte
01-18-2011, 11:06
A very noble aspiration Shaun. 6 Monthly is going it a bit. Lets be hearing from some of you fellows in other parts of the country. When are your shows coming up?
Rob.

Trench Bucket
01-20-2011, 04:37
Thanks again to Shaun and the squadron commanders (Aled & Chris) for the great day of duckin,diving and dying on the 15th. After the 5th day of having crumpets for breakfast (Shaun i am blaming you on this one). I feel ready to take to the air again.

Can't wait for the fist WOW & 28mm link campaign to be planned.

"who shot my blinking rudder this time?"


TB

Strangely Brown
02-09-2011, 10:56
Another big thank you to Shaun for all of his hard work on the day to ensure that we all had such a great time! If you missed this one, don't miss the next one...

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=9029&d=1297275599

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The next time I'm down, I'll be bringing a bag of 5/8" and 1" propellor discs for all those who want some, but I'll send Shaun some to finish off his bomber run first...

As I say, excellent day and so good to meet up with so many like-minded individuals; it made the trip all the more worthwhile :D

Khargor
02-09-2011, 11:21
Thanks for the kind words Simon :) There will be a Time of Aces 2012 and, with this amount of preparation time, even I should be able to get everything painted!!

Flying Officer Kyte
02-12-2011, 08:22
Great pics Simon. Also a thank you from Wing to all who either organised the day or took part in it. This is what we are all about. It makes the effort we put in at all levels well worth doing.
Rob.

CappyTom
02-12-2011, 08:31
Great photos, looks like another great mission completed.