Official Ju 52 (1/200) Painting Thread

[Nightbomber]

I had purchased two Ju 52 Zvezda plastic kits, assembled and airbrushed them. The bases were cut out from plexiglass.
The only change I made was to drill holes for dorsal rear gunners and attaching "machine guns".
Paints used are Pactra acrylic RLM70/71/65 (Black Green/Dark Green/Light Blue).
Hope you like them as I do:)

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[Baron Rolf]

An amazing paint job Andrzej :hatsoff::salute:

[Guntruck]

Nice job Andrzej. When I bought mine I was a bit disappointed that the top of the aircraft was not corrugated like the rest

[Marechallannes]

Really great work, Andrzej!:eek:

I like them.:clap:

We really need to play a Ju 52 sceanrio next year in Prague!

[Nightbomber]

Definitely we will:)
I'm thinking about some Stalingrad evacuation missions...

[grumpybear]

Very nice. I need to find a store that sells those kits here.

[Nightbomber]

They are being sold very cheap here, like 10 PLN, that equals app. 3,30 USD.:)

[FrankJamison]

That is truly a spectacular set of paint jobs. Wow! :thumbsup:

[Marechallannes]

My Zveda 1/200 Ju52 North Africa

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=35628&d=1331024660

... and early war

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=35623&d=1331024300

[Nightbomber]

Well done, Sven. The desert overall color is true to original. The white identification band is nicely painted. :thumbsup:
The green one is very nice as well. It can serve in the Eastern Front supply or air drop missions.
But I remember I saw a greater bases for them that you had showed us in Prague, right? Frankly I followed your example cutting out mine ones;)

[Flying Officer Kyte]

:salute:Great to see a few more examples of WWII aircraft on the showcase Sven. You and Andrzej have done us proud as usual.
:clap:Rob.

[Carl_Brisgamer]

Great Ju52's gentlemen :salute:

[Thomatchef]

My two Ju 52's are flying for a while now...

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[marcoperse]

Great pics chaps :clap::clap::clap:

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[Flying Officer Kyte]

:thumbsup:They are a smashing couple of planes as well Thomas. Very smooth Cammo transition and crisp decals.
Rob.

[Nightbomber]

Well done Thomas, very neat painting there:clap:

[Guntruck]

Nice work Thomas, very neat.

[Doug]

Nice work everyone at the moment I cannot decided which to mine up for Europe or North Afrika, maybe I will just have to buy 2 more!

[Carl_Brisgamer]

Here's an early Spanish Civil War Nationalist Junkers Ju 52 for the showcase. It's a 1/200 diecast model made by Hobby Master fomerly in Swissair colours.

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I have two more Hobby Master aircraft waiting for the brush.

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Decals are home made, based on this Legion Kondor Ju 52 identification number 22 - 76.

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I've posted a thread here about this aircraft - http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/showthread.php?14415-WGS-Spanish-Civil-War-1936-39-1-200-Hobby-Master-Legion-Kondor-Junkers-Ju52&p=212960#post212960

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Great addition to your airforce Carl.
I can see this is another war on which I'm going to have to get up to speed. One book by Hemmingway and a couple of articles in Wargames Illustrated just don't seem to cut the mustard any more.:surrender:
Rob.

[Carl_Brisgamer]

Great addition to your airforce Carl.
I can see this is another war on which I'm going to have to get up to speed. One book by Hemmingway and a couple of articles in Wargames Illustrated just don't seem to cut the mustard any more.:surrender:
Rob.

Fascinating period in history. If you intend to make any Nationalist aircraft I have uploaded some decal patterns for the Ju 52 and Bf 109.

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Fascinating period in history. If you intend to make any Nationalist aircraft I have uploaded some decal patterns for the Ju 52 and Bf 109.

Thanks for the kind offer Carl, but I think I will restrict myself to just reading up on the period for now, and watch you chaps grab all the glory.
Rob.

[Carl_Brisgamer]

Another 'Tante Ju' for the showcase - this one with a hastily applied winter Eastern Front scheme representing an aircraft involved in dropping supplies to the Sixth Army encircled at Stalingrad.

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[Flying Officer Kyte]

I do like the hurried battle worn finish Carl.
I often think ours are too good to be true with factory finish and all.
Rob.

[Lt. S.Kafloc]

Some real nice JU 52's there. Andy, Thomas and Carl very nice paint jobs and all different. Zvezda aircraft looking good. I have only managed to find 1/144th scale aircraft, I have a JU87. Could one of you post a link to the 1/200th section? Please.

[Carl_Brisgamer]

Some real nice JU 52's there. Andy, Thomas and Carl very nice paint jobs and all different. Zvezda aircraft looking good. I have only managed to find 1/144th scale aircraft, I have a JU87. Could one of you post a link to the 1/200th section? Please.

Noble Knight miniatures have the 1/200 Ju 52 and Li-2 in the 1/144 scale section here http://www.nobleknight.com/ViewProducts.asp_Q_ProductLineID_E_2137425391_A_ManufacturerID_E_2145082590_A_CategoryID_E_17_A_GenreID_E_0

There is no sign of the 1/200 scale Junkers Ju 88 but apparently one does exist...........

[Carl_Brisgamer]

I have completed a house ruled XT manouver deck to suit the Ju 52 and other WGS bombers of similar speed from 250-290kph.

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The cards are played a little differently due the very slow speed, see this thread here: http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/showthread.php?16015-XS-Deck-for-slower-WGS-bombers-eg-Catalina-PBY

Cheers,

Carl.

[Thomatchef]

Noble Knight miniatures have the 1/200 Ju 52 and Li-2 in the 1/144 scale section here http://www.nobleknight.com/ViewProducts.asp_Q_ProductLineID_E_2137425391_A_ManufacturerID_E_2145082590_A_CategoryID_E_17_A_GenreID_E_0

There is no sign of the 1/200 scale Junkers Ju 88 but apparently one does exist...........

Their is one to be released by Zvezda together with two other twin engined bombers in 1/200. It was stated in the beginning of this year to be a 2013 release but haven't heard of it since.

[David Manley]

Zvezda are supposed to be releasing a Ju88, a Blenheim and a Russian bomber, the name of which escapes me. Due out later this year.

[Flying Officer Kyte]

I have completed a house ruled XT manouver deck to suit the Ju 52 and other WGS bombers of similar speed from 250-290kph.
The cards are played a little differently due the very slow speed, see this thread here: http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/showthread.php?16015-XS-Deck-for-slower-WGS-bombers-eg-Catalina-PBY

Cheers,

Carl.

What I need Carl is a set of cards like this for my Swordfish, which I can't fly at the moment. Do you have any idea what length of arrows I would need to do?
Rob.

[Blackronin]

My take on the Ju-52. A shameful rendition, compared with all the excellent jobs I've seen here:

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=43706&d=1335822642

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=43705&d=1335822634

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=43704&d=1335822623

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=43703&d=1335822609

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=43702&d=1335822603

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=43701&d=1335822595

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=43700&d=1335822589

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=43699&d=1335822580

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=43698&d=1335822572

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=43697&d=1335822566

[Thomatchef]

My take on the Ju-52. A shameful rendition, compared with all the excellent jobs I've seen here:



Yours where the inspiration to do mine! They are as excellent as al the others !

[Blackronin]

Thanks Thomas, you're too kind.

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Time for Kudos.
Rob.

[Blackronin]

Thank you my friend.

[Thomatchef]

My winter impression on the Ju52. I "repainted" one of my green ones into this. Applied white with the airbrush in streaks and then heavily washed it with black to give that dirty used look.

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More pictures in my album...
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/album.php?albumid=1169

[Nightbomber]

I have not been here for quite some time...
Quim, your flotilla looks impressive!
Thomas, this dirty-snowy Ju is killing me...it's so life-real-like looking.

[Blackronin]

Thomas, this new re-edition is beautiful!!

[7eat51]

Another beautiful plane, Thomas.

I have noticed that many of the German planes have some part painted yellow. Is there a reason for that?

[Blackronin]

Jagdgeschwader 26 - They painted the nose of their planes yellow.
They were Galland's boys made famous over Europe.

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Exquisite.
I can imagine that winging its way over Russia or Norway.
Rob.

[Flying Officer Kyte]

From one extreme to another. The heat the sand and the flies.


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[Blackronin]

Excellent desert Ju-52's, Rob!
Your North Africa armada is becoming legendary, my friend.

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Cheers Joaquim.
I just need to consolidate my defences now.
Rob.

[Lt. S.Kafloc]

Some great looking 52's. Alas mine are still awaiting delivery. I've been told out of stock......!

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Where did you go for them Neil?
Rob.

[Nightbomber]

...and you even gimbaled them, Rob :eek: How nice and clever! :clap:

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Some great looking 52's. Alas mine are still awaiting delivery. I've been told out of stock......!

Have a look here Neil.

http://www.bigboyztoyz.org.uk/zvezda-m-34.html?osCsid=8ooht3hsoo619nbi0792kh0ss2

Rob.

[flash]

They'll make an impact Rob - with any luck :slysmile:

[Flying Officer Kyte]

They'll make an impact Rob - with any luck :slysmile:

That was my impression.;)
Rob.

[Lt. S.Kafloc]

I think I've just asked for my money back on the strength of that link Rob. Cheers.


Have a look here Neil.

http://www.bigboyztoyz.org.uk/zvezda-m-34.html?osCsid=8ooht3hsoo619nbi0792kh0ss2

Rob.

[Lt. S.Kafloc]

Refund requested, new order placed. About £1.50 dearer but at least I'll have them.


Have a look here Neil.

http://www.bigboyztoyz.org.uk/zvezda-m-34.html?osCsid=8ooht3hsoo619nbi0792kh0ss2

Rob.

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Glad to be of help.
Rob.

[Naharaht]

On a Spanish Civil War version the ventral gunner's 'dustbin' must get in the way of the mounting peg.

[grumpybear]

Those are all great looking nice job everyone

[cartas]

My attempts :)

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[Blackronin]

Cartas!
These are excellent!

[Flying Officer Kyte]

You have certainly made a very good job of those Cartas.
Well done.
Rob.

[BobP]

Just saw this and you did a great job on those.

[OldGuy59]

All,
Finally getting around to templating this plane. More color schemes coming, but this is a factory color scheme I found.

Stats? Arcs?

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This is a pretty rough draft, more work needed. Have I mentioned corrugated metal-skinned planes are really a mess?

[Blackronin]

Can you make one like this:

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=43694&d=1335822200

And one like this:

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[Flying Officer Kyte]

All,
Finally getting around to templating this plane. More color schemes coming, but this is a factory color scheme I found.

This is a pretty rough draft, more work needed. Have I mentioned corrugated metal-skinned planes are really a mess?

No Mike, but I bet you are about to.:takecover:
Rob.

[OldGuy59]

All,
I've read somewhere that the SCW version of the Ju-52 had a "dustbin" ventral turret? Where was it in the fuselage? What gun(s)? How common was it?

For units, what names/numbers where there, or do you want?

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Don't know if this is any good Mike?


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[Blackronin]

Mike:

Spanish Civil War:
The Condor Legion, upon establishment, consisted of the Kampfgruppe 88, with three squadrons of Ju 52 bombers and the Jagdgruppe 88 with three squadrons of Heinkel He 51 fighters. Later models were incorporated in the legion.

As for the dustbin it had a mg 42 that fired 180º to the rear and down.

[OldGuy59]

Mike:

Spanish Civil War:
The Condor Legion, upon establishment, consisted of the Kampfgruppe 88, with three squadrons of Ju 52 bombers and the Jagdgruppe 88 with three squadrons of Heinkel He 51 fighters. Later models were incorporated in the legion.

As for the dustbin it had a mg 42 that fired 180º to the rear and down.

OK. Where on the bottom was the ventral turret, though? I'm having difficulty finding any reference or images that indicate where, exactly, this turret was.

[Blackronin]

Here:

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[Lt. S.Kafloc]

Does the gunner sit in a 'bucket seat', then?

[Blackronin]

He wasn't even sit. He was standing...

[Flying Officer Kyte]

He wasn't even sit. He was standing...

Right on the locating peg then Quim. Unless he had those magnetic balls.:D
Rob.

[Blackronin]

He wasn't even sit. He was standing...

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Naharaht]

The 'bucket' will make it hard to mount a Ju.52 bomber on altitude pegs, unless a very long peg is fitted to the underside of the bomber.

[OldGuy59]

The 'bucket' will make it hard to mount a Ju.52 bomber on altitude pegs, unless a very long peg is fitted to the underside of the bomber.

Card wise, you don't see ventral turrets. I just want to represent the firing arcs correctly.

In game terms, you could "assume" the turret is there, unless you want the modeling challenge?

[OldGuy59]

Another draft, working on the firing arcs.

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This color scheme should only have the dorsal and ventral arcs, based on what images I can find. Comments?

[Blackronin]

Excellent!!

[Naharaht]

Is there a source for the lateral firing arcs 1 & 2 because I would have thought that they would be wider? Maybe 60 degrees each?

[OldGuy59]

Is there a source for the lateral firing arcs 1 & 2 because I would have thought that they would be wider? Maybe 60 degrees each?

I don't have a source, other than pictures and drawings.

The waist guns probably should have wider arcs. I figure perhaps 3:30 to 5:30 and 6:30 to 8:30? I don't know exactly how the guns were mounted, nor how much room the gunner(s) had.

[cartas]

@OldGuy59
Great!

Aren't you planning some "winter" camo? I have one non-painted Ju52 model waiting for some winter inspiration... :)

[cartas]

@OldGuy59
Great!

Aren't you planning some "winter" camo? I have one non-painted Ju52 model waiting for some winter inspiration... :)

[OldGuy59]

@OldGuy59
Great!

Aren't you planning some "winter" camo? I have one non-painted Ju52 model waiting for some winter inspiration... :)

Crazy individual that I am, I want to do all the above planes, which includes two winter camos.

One of my Li-2s (WWII Allied Transport Plane Album (http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/album.php?albumid=3035&attachmentid=138630)) was done in the improvised white over-paint like this one (Official Lisunov Li-2 (1-200) Painting Thread (http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/showthread.php?19594-Official-Lisunov-Li-2-Dc-3-Dakota-C-47-Skytrain-(1-200)-Painting-Thread&p=299920&viewfull=1#post299920)), and that technique will work well for Carl's plane above. The green spot plane is an easy possibility, too.

The desert camo should be done for variety, too.

I have almost completed Joaquin's SCW scheme, but am having problems matching color and design. Almost there.
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And I have a three color jig-saw puzzle pattern I really want to try, but that's really off the deep end, cause no-one will paint it on this forum (unless they are crazier than I am).

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(This photo is good enough to "cut&paste" directly into a card, and actually look good?)

Reining in the insanity, I will complete the SCW job, and additionally do one winter and the desert camo. That will be five sets, as there are management cards to come, as well. Crew position suggestions?

[Nightbomber]

Mike,
I saw that one of Czech Wing members (probably Michal, but Dan-Sam should know who exactly) showed me that painted Ju 52 Zvezda model!

[OldGuy59]

Crazy individual that I am, I want to do all the above planes, which includes two winter camos.

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And I have a three color jig-saw puzzle pattern I really want to try, but that's really off the deep end, cause no-one will paint it on this forum (unless they are crazier than I am).

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Mike,
I saw that one of Czech Wing members (probably Michal, but Dan-Sam should know who exactly) showed me that painted Ju 52 Zvezda model!

So, this is a commercially available plane? You can buy it painted like this? Cool.

[Blackronin]

Mike, you're going very well.
I warmly thank you for your efforts.

[Blackronin]

Mike, you're going very well.
I warmly thank you for your efforts.

[Thomatchef]

And I have a three color jig-saw puzzle pattern I really want to try, but that's really off the deep end, cause no-one will paint it on this forum (unless they are crazier than I am).

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I have a JU52 that needs to be painted for the desert... Seems like a cool challenge to do this one.

[Nightbomber]

So, this is a commercially available plane? You can buy it painted like this? Cool.
No, he said he had painted the Zvezda model like that. I was struck by the similarity between this picture and his model!

[OldGuy59]

Sorry, but squirrels got in the way of this project (PMs for custom cards and the "General Overview of Mini's - WWI"). Besides, I was hoping someone would tell me how many crew were in this plane, as I can't find anything that definitively says the actual number. The best I've found is 3 (pilot, co-pilot, radioman). How many gunners? Which models/versions had waist guns, and did they have a gunner for each gun?

I just don't know, guys. Management cards are not possible without some assistance.

[miscmini]

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[Flying Officer Kyte]

Nice job Kevin.
Rob.

[Blackronin]

Excellent job! Thanks.

[Flying Helmut]

very nice!

[FatalFlaw]

Hi!

I found some older pics of one of my conversion projects and just wanted to add them here.

I need to finish both with Spatz and detail plus more markings, but you get the idea.

I am doing 4 of these in 1/200 scale now and will posts pics when actually finished;)

Thanks for looking!

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[OldGuy59]

So, after a very long delay, I have taken up this project, again.

I haven't found any new info on the crew positions of the Ju-52, so I'm just gonna start guessing. This is my guess for the Spanish Civil War version. Ares doesn't put all the crew positions on, if they weren't critical to fighting the plane. I don't completely agree, as there were many cross-trained individuals on a bomber. However, if we want cards for planes, I have to try to stick to Ares plan. Here is the management card for the 3m g4e:

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Oh. Did I mention that I finally bought a WGS bomber? I now have an He-111 H-3 as a template, along with the rules! So, now I will be going through all the cards I've produced, and fixing them. Wish me luck.

[Edit: Redid the card, after trying to do the next few versions, with more gunners.]

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Good Luck Mike, and I await the JU WW2 version with anticipation.;)
Rob.

[OldGuy59]

Two more versions, with the same paint scheme. This plane flew in North Africa, but was a 3m g4e, with only the Dorsal gunner:

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Someone requested this colour scheme with the waist guns, but that is a 3m g5e, so this may not be accurate.

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Firing arcs are coming...

PS: One for Rob...
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[Flying Officer Kyte]

First thanks for the rapid response Mike.
Second, thanks for the Med and N Africa versions. That should cover all eventualities out there.
Rob.

[Lt. S.Kafloc]

Great job Mike. Any chance of the gun arcs for Med/Africa?

Neil

[OldGuy59]

Redone Management version of the Balkans plane above:

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Background of a town north of Bucharest, courtesy of Google Earth.

PS: I messed up the versions. The 3m g4e didn't have waist guns. So, the management card doesn't indicate them. The above Firing Arc card will be appropriately amended, soon.

And one for Joaquim, at long last. I hope I was close on the unit:

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[EDIT: Background redone with Belgorod, near Kursk, Russia. Courtesy of Google Earth]

And a winter version of the same plane:

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[Teaticket]

What a great collection of Ju52s on this thread! I tip my hat to all of you!!! :hatsoff:

[OldGuy59]

From one extreme to another. The heat the sand and the flies.

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So, Rob...

What unit were these planes from, and where did you find the colour scheme? I can't find anything online that comes close to this.

The best I can find is:
G6+ KGrzbV.2; 101, 102, 103, 104+105 (2nd, 101st, 102nd, 103rd, 104th+105th Special Duties Battle Group), TG 4 (4th Transport Group), 1st Air Transport Group (Maritime)

R = 7th Squadron (a white letter to the left)

So, I can't seem to sort out what would go on a card, nor where this plane might have been located. Trepani, Sicily was an airfield that some Bf-110s were photographed at, but not Ju-52s, so it could have been a visitor.

One of my new sources of info: The Luftwaffe, 1933-45 (http://www.ww2.dk/)

PS: My best guess:

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[Edit: Added the propellers. D'oh!]

Using this source : Luftwaffe Wiki (http://www.wiki.luftwaffedata.co.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page)

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Mike.
The scheme was one I grabbed off the net, and only said Tripoli North Africa 1942.
As I only use generic aircraft I am not really worried if they fit into a regular squadron or not.
For me they will just form a couple of Aircraft transiting from Sicily to NA or back. Fodder for my sorties from Malta trying to disrupt Mr Rommel's supply route.
Thanks very much for all your effort on these.
Those cards will do just fine as they are.
Rob.

[OldGuy59]

All the firing arcs:

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NOTE: I used my He-111 mini card to do these, so the aircraft center is the center blue dot, with the "tailing" rule blue dot on the tail.

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Once again, my thanks Mike.
Rob.:salute:

[OldGuy59]

My two Ju 52's are flying for a while now...

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Thomas,
Way late, but what unit was this from? I have G6 + MR as "KGrzbV.2; 102, Norway". The color scheme is unique, and I haven't found it online.

Also, what version would you like on the card, if you'd like one?

[Naharaht]

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Looking at the plans and similar pictures, what would you say was the firing arc of the ventral 'dustbin' mounting, 3 o'clock round to 9 o'clock?

[OldGuy59]

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Looking at the plans and similar pictures, what would you say was the firing arc of the ventral 'dustbin' mounting, 3 o'clock round to 9 o'clock?

Well, I used the image from post 67 (Link (http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/showthread.php?12349-Official-Ju-52-(1-200)-Painting-Thread&p=309897&viewfull=1#post309897)).

And if you consider that fixed forward guns on fighters have a 45 degree arc, what's a bit of grace on a ventral arc?

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Much as I loath to agree with Mike (Because I'm going to be on the receiving end over the Med) The arc he has depicted on the cards looks about right to me.
Rob.

[Naharaht]

The firing arc for the ventral dustbin on your first card in post #102 is larger, Mike, but I think that the undercarriage would get in the way.

[OldGuy59]

David,
You don't have to use the card, if you don't like it?

I went through some visual extrapolations, and the worst case scenario is this:

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The Lower view is a g4e, and not a g3e, as can be seen from the missing spats on the wheels. The black circle is the gun ring, the red line is the back of the spats (if they were there), and the cyan line is the center of the ring. The worst blockage of sight line is the yellow lines, from the center of the ring to the farthest point on the spats. So, only when the gunner is aiming exactly level with the gun ring, could he not fire further forward than this. With an enemy aircraft slightly lower in altitude, the spats don't necessarily block his sight line, and only to the very front does the mounting hardware and wind screen block his sight line. This doesn't take into consideration any yawing by the pilot to allow a wider arc, as the front fighter arc provides.

So, technically, I have a really restrictive ventral arc, not a liberal one.

But, it is still your choice to use the card, or not.

[Naharaht]

Having seen your last diagram and allowing for yawing, then I will agree with you, Mike.

[cartas]

Hasty camouflage - somewhere during winter...

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[Nightbomber]

Well done Cartas. Look like a true weathered miniature :thumbsup:

[Blackronin]

Excellently done and weathered!
REP!

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Yes. Looks as if it has seen some service to me.:clap:
Rob.

[Lt. S.Kafloc]

This is the one I did for Paul's (tikkifriend) game at Doncaster 2016.

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A lovely 1/200 Zvezda JU52. One of 3 in Med Cam I'm doing for a what if Malta raid.

Neil

[Aardvark1430]

Okay, I posted this already in the Dutch Wing section, but it seems appropriate to post here as well ... so here is my Ju52/3m (again) ...

Junkers Ju 52/3m, (loosely based on an aircraft of 2./KGzbV102)

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flown by Ltn. Helmut Krause (fictive).

Model also by Zvezda, built straight out of the box. Apart from the reargunner's position (which is virtually non-existent) quite well detailed
Hope you like this one,

Guus :salute:

[Flying Officer Kyte]

This is the one I did for Paul's (tikkifriend) game at Doncaster 2016.

A lovely 1/200 Zvezda JU52. One of 3 in Med Cam I'm doing for a what if Malta raid.

Neil

Does that mean, what if Rob gets his finger out and writes the Scenario for it Neil?;)

I have one in the pipeline for Spring 42. called. "Who do you think you are kidding Mr Rommel?"
Rob.

[Flying Helmut]

Superb "Iron Annie"s!

Almost makes me want to try one myself.

[Caveman]

Great job on the Ju 52's gentlemen. Brilliant painting of the camo patterns.

[Naharaht]

Great painting, Andrzej, Thomas, Carl, Joaquim and Rob! :thumbsup: I particularly like the 'worn look' paint schemes.

[matt56]

I have a Zvezda "Tante Ju" that I was going to do up as the Where Eagles Dare Special Ops version, but seeing these other nifty version has made me rethink my plans...

Not sure which I'll do, but it sure is great seeing all these variations!

All the best,
Matt

[Lt. S.Kafloc]

The JU52/3mg5e:

First the inspiration behind the model and repaint:

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Float and gun positions.


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Bottom profile for cam scheme.



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The float and strut arrangement:


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Gun positions drilled out, crew inserted, guns drilled and plastic rod inserted.
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Strut assembly. Main struts wire, supporting struts plastic rod.
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Home made base with arcs and details added.
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Salt water weathering added over wings and fuselage.
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The finished JU52/3mg5e

JU.52/3mg5e
This Luftwaffe Junkers Ju.52/3mg5e served in the Balkans with 2 Staffel, I KGzbV, in early 1941. The g5e version was an improvement upon the Junkers Ju 52/3m g4e. It had more comprehensive radio equipment, a de-icing system that used the exhausts, provision for an interchangeable wheel ski or float landing gear, and an uprated powerplant: 3 × BMW 132T-2 radials, each rated at 830 hp (619 kW). Number built: unknown out of a total of 5,415 in 15 versions.

Lufttransportstaffel 1 was formed in February in 1942 in Travemünde/Germany. The a/c were taken mainly from KGrzbV 500, which was disbanded after the Stalingrad disaster and fitted with floats for service in the Black Sea and from April 1943 onwards in the Aegean Sea. The a/c served with factory codes or still with their former unit codes painted on. The unit could only be identified by the tactical rudder markings 'W1', which were taken over from disbanded KGrzbV Wittstock.

The basic Zvezda kit has been modified to include: Floats (carved from balsa wood) and corresponding struts (metal and plastic rod), tail struts (hole drilled through fuselage and strut pushed through for greater strength), mg’s (plastic rod) and crew in the dorsal position and both sides (1/200 scale figures), propeller discs (AA) and radio wire (hole drilled in tail, wire inserted and stretched to forward support).

There is some uncertainty regarding the squadron colour, in which the individual a/c letters were painted. There are a lot of profiles showing them in red, but after intensive comparison of original b/w photographs (and assumed by experts like Karl Kössler) it most likely was yellow.

[Jager]

Nice bit of modding there, Neil. I thought I recognized your ships in the pics ;)
Lord knows what those floats did to it's speed and "maneuverability" :erk:
:thumbsup:
Karl

[matt56]

Beautiful work, Neil! I really love where you took this kit - lots of love and attention went into it:sAprvd:

Thanks for sharing more pictures and text on this old gal!

All the best,
Matt

[milcoll73]

thats cool neil!

[Lt. S.Kafloc]

This version was up-engined so it had more power. We have already spoke on this. I would imagine it wouldn't make it faster but probably the same as the 3mg3 and 4's.

The ships have not been used before. First time on the table as they are newly painted Japanese merchants and tankers for the Pacific.
But thanks all the same.

Neil


Nice bit of modding there, Neil. I thought I recognized your ships in the pics ;)
Lord knows what those floats did to it's speed and "maneuverability" :erk:
:thumbsup:
Karl

[Jager]

This version was up-engined so it had more power. We have already spoke on this. I would imagine it wouldn't make it faster but probably the same as the 3mg3 and 4's.

The ships have not been used before. First time on the table as they are newly painted Japanese merchants and tankers for the Pacific.
But thanks all the same.

Neil

I remember discussing Ju.52 variants, but not with floats. Ah, old age and memories :erk:
as for ships, maybe it's just the presentation that made me think of you :thumbsup:
Karl

[Lt. S.Kafloc]

It's the salt that does it, nothing like it for ship wakes.....makes the sea more, um, realistically salty...:lol::lol::lol::cool:

as for ships, maybe it's just the presentation that made me think of you :thumbsup:
Karl

[Guntruck]

Nice work. I like the bloke pointing his bang-stick out of the fuselage window.

[Flying Helmut]

Super Junkers Neil! Well worthy of REP!

[Nightbomber]

Well done, Neil. Rep guns are blazing ;).

[Lt. S.Kafloc]

Yep, same as the one on the other side of the fuselage too.


Nice work. I like the bloke pointing his bang-stick out of the fuselage window.

[fox]

1/200 éme zvezda , perfect for the Battle of Britain and a hypothetical Sealow operation.
The markings are not historic
Besides, for a while zvezda ( and others) no longer provides swastikas with the models, it's painful, it's just history though.
https://i.servimg.com/u/f79/17/77/62/17/img_3949.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/17776217/4950)
https://i.servimg.com/u/f79/17/77/62/17/img_4010.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/17776217/4951)
https://i.servimg.com/u/f79/17/77/62/17/img_4011.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/17776217/4952)
https://i.servimg.com/u/f79/17/77/62/17/img_4012.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/17776217/4953)

[Caveman]

Nice job Fox. It turned out really nice.

[milcoll73]

nice! ive got to get off my butt and finish my zvezda ju-52s!

[fox]

A target for my hurricanes in the Mediterranean
Ju-52 /3MG5e Lufttransportstaffel (see) 1,méditerranée
Eduard 1/144
https://i.servimg.com/u/f81/14/92/25/23/img_4514.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/14922523/1072)
https://i.servimg.com/u/f81/14/92/25/23/img_4515.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/14922523/1073)

[monse]

Great worn out Ju.52 floatplane.

[Teaticket]

Really nice Fox. Now we'll all be checking to see if we have one more Zvezda Ju-52 hiding somewhere.

[Dak21]

Looks good fox!

[mikeemagnus]

Nice painting jobs there fox, very nice indeed :)

[schoon]

Yes. Good work there.

[Flying Officer Kyte]

What a refreshing change Fox. An aircraft with floats again.
Rob.

[OldGuy59]

Long overdue, I suspect, but I'm inspired by the nice work done on this version of Ju.52:

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I have a drawing that shows a ventral gun position on one of these. Do we want that? It would be restricted by the floats/pontoons to a tight rear arc, though.

PS: Redid the drawing with thinner floats. Preference?

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[schoon]

The thinner floats match the model better... IMO.

[OldGuy59]

The thinner floats match the model better... IMO.

I used the Eduard kit instruction drawings for a guide, and created lines for the floats in Photoshop, so they should be an exact match.

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PS: I did a splinter scheme on the floats, even though that isn't shown on these instructions.

[OldGuy59]

What do we think of this:

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Based on this image:

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PS: And this:

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[milcoll73]

love the floaty tante JU fox!

[fox]

Didn't see the card ,
Thanks a lot Mike

[schoon]

That is an awesome card - for an awesome model.

Love this community.

[gutland]

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Germans getting ready for upcoming campaign (Zvezda kit)

[fox]

Nice one

[Aardvark1430]

Nicely done Marek :sAprvd:
cheers,
Guus :salute:

[Flying Helmut]

Excellent result! :clap:

[Absurdbanipal]

Hi,

I tried the Zvesda model but it's not a very good one.
I had some issues in the realisation of decals.

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I wont try another one.

[Flying Helmut]

The paint job and build look fine to me!

Was the decal problem with handling/application, or with the final "finish" of the decals when in position?
(I've got some Zvesdas, but haven't started any as yet).

[monse]

Very smart result.
Reputation points troopers are on the jump.

[Teaticket]

What is your decal problem? I also have some of these in the painting queue.

Very nice plane. It looks a little cold over the green mat.

[Caveman]

Brilliant work Cedric. Is that a wash or dry brush technique?

[Guntruck]

Very nice, Cedric

[malachi]

Great-looking plane, Cedric!

[Absurdbanipal]

Hi,

My decals problems came with the difficulty of making my owns. I needed to print on a white decal sheet and its always a bad idea because it's difficult to transfert white sheet decals on painted models.

I used a wash technic with art oil and light White Spirit. You have to be very careful with this technic wich work pretty well on 1/48 models but not that much on 1/200.

Cedric

[milcoll73]

nice snowbird auntie JU cedric!

[OldGuy59]

Hi,

My decals problems came with the difficulty of making my owns. I needed to print on a white decal sheet and its always a bad idea because it's difficult to transfert white sheet decals on painted models.

I used a wash technic with art oil and light White Spirit. You have to be very careful with this technic wich work pretty well on 1/48 models but not that much on 1/200.

Cedric

Not that I model much, but perhaps this technique could help?

1. Paint the area where the decal will be placed with gloss clear paint, if you've used matt paint colors. This gives a better, smoother, surface for the decal to sit on, and allows the decal to adhere to the surface better. Some modelers spray the entire model, for a more even surface over the entire model, but that is up to you.

2. Apply decal, let dry.

3. Spray matt clear over decal. This will protect the decal, and will keep the decal from having a frosted appearance that usually occurs with camouflaged paint schemes (using matt paints). If you've sprayed the entire model with gloss clear, mask off the areas you want to keep gloss, and matt clear spray the entire model.

4. Apply weathering. This can now be done without damage to the decals, as they will be protected by the matt clear coat(s).

5. If desired, another matt clear coat to protect the weathering? Remove the masking on the gloss clear areas.