Ares Announces new gaming mats.

[jbmacek]

Ares Announces three new gaming mats.

Material: Cloth backed by rubber (mouse pad)
Size (each): 68x98 cm / 27x39"
Price: $34.90 MSRP

Country

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64384&d=1351941909

City

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64376&d=1351941902

Coast

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64377&d=1351941903

Some of the different combos the three mats can make:

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64380&d=1351941906

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64379&d=1351941905

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64378&d=1351941904

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64381&d=1351941906

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64382&d=1351941907

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64383&d=1351941908

[afilter]

Just saw this myself. Hopefully will be out in time for Santa's list. ;)

[Kaiser]

Wow great!

[hatfieldsinal]

It looks tempting.

[wargamer]

Very Interesting.

[crashx]

Nice!!! Very nice!!!!

[BBSuds]

Wow!! They look great! Must add to my list of must have!!!

[gully_raker]

WOW! MUST HAVE, MUST HAVE!

Bring on the Pre-Orders Please.:thumbsup:

[Du doch nicht!]

Looks indeed fantastic! Much variety and details!

[Biggles downunder]

I wonder if they will be in any way compatible with the 'old' gaming mats - I have both the 'East' and the 'West' mats.

[David Manley]

A much better rendition of the game system logo on these than on the originals. Well done Ares :D

[P-51D]

Want!


I doubt they will be here for Christmas, they just started production, plus the boat ride, plus distribution chain....

[Marechallannes]

Great new mats.:clap:

I think I'll use them for WW II European scenarios and of course WW I.

[Burt]

I don't think so looking at the pictures.
It looks a far better product than the previous WOW mats.
Looking closely it looks like you can combine any number of mats as all the exit points for roads and rivers seem symmetrical, great for really large games.
I am very tempted to splash out and get a couple
Don

I wonder if they will be in any way compatible with the 'old' gaming mats - I have both the 'East' and the 'West' mats.

[Flying Officer Kyte]

I will be going for those, just for doing the shows if nothing else.
Rob.

[Boney10]

Look good, open fields which can be used for both versions of the game, wonder if a pacific/jungle mat will be in the future.
Will see cost before deciding to get or not, but looking good for the moment.

[flash]

Certainly impressive - I'm sure the price tag will match but could still be tempted ! ;)

[Doug]

My credit card just shuddered!

[Carl_Brisgamer]

Two of each please!

[john snelling]

I like them more than the older ones.

[Naharaht]

They certainly sound good. I wonder what the cost will be?

[Bluedevil]

Ok ..I'll start saving :p

[Guntruck]

Certainly an improvement on what's gone before by the look of it.

[Nightbomber]

Well, well, well...they look nice, but where is the no man's land? They seem to be perfect for WGS, not for WGF. If I were them and have three parts of the mat, the middle one should be definitely published in 2, interchangeable versions. One for WGF (with trenchlines) another one for WGS (wothout trenchlines). This way all of us would buy 4 mats, instead of just 3.:lol:

[Oberst Hajj]

Yes, much better then the old mats. I'll try and find out what they are made out of this time.

I'm wondering if there are going to be variations on this type of mat, or if the third one is going to be the larger, campaign special I've heard wind of later in 2013....

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Yes Andrzej, you have a good point there. We often need three mats without NML for missions deep into enemy territory, so the three mats would get bought anyway, but so many encounters involve an over the lines flavour, that we do really need one mat with the trenches marked out on it.
Rob.

[Flying Officer Kyte]

I'm wondering if there are going to be variations on this type of mat, or if the third one is going to be the larger, campaign special I've heard wind of later in 2013....

:hmm:That remark just wets the appitite even further Keith.
Rob.

[diceslinger]

Yes, much better then the old mats. I'll try and find out what they are made out of this time.

I'm wondering if there are going to be variations on this type of mat, or if the third one is going to be the larger, campaign special I've heard wind of later in 2013....

Oooooh.....campaign! Do we have a drooly icon? I may need it! Fantastic looking mats!

[LingSter]

is it possible to get a look at the other two maps? I'd love to ee how they all fit together for massive WW1 wagaming!

[LewdDude]

this is really great! I would also like to see more detailed photo's of all of them!!! Are they mosepadish like the Nexus versions?

[Flying Officer Kyte]

mosepadish ?

Ron?
Rob.

[LewdDude]

Ron?
Rob.

LOL sorry, it was meant to be "Mouse Pad-ish"

[Jager]

mosepadish?

Ron?
Rob.

Add a "U" in the appropriate spot ;)
Karl

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Add a "U" in the appropriate spot ;)
Karl

Sorry chaps. I was a bit slow on the uptake there. I was thinking it was some type of jargon for a kind of plastic material of which I was unaware.:embarass:
Rob.

[BobP]

Did not see this. I use Hotz Mats but may have to look into getting these. Thanks for the info.

[jbmacek]

Hot off the presses, another pick of the samples.

http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/680392_430939320286742_1552270142_o.jpg

[Oberst Hajj]

It's nice to see the size of the mat in that last photo. It also looks like they might be in a more advanced stage of production then we initially thought. It looks like there are three boxes of the mat we've seen the photos/art for and the last box appears to be blue in color and it looks like there is some water in the photo of the mat on that last box... like a little coastline!

[diceslinger]

If you zoom in on the box in the last photo (with the red box) it says "Join two or more Game Mats together (either Countryside, City, or Coast), in the combination you prefer, to create the ultimate scenario for your aerial battles!" I also see that the first picture in this thread says Countryside on the box.

[Oberst Hajj]

Good catch. Looks like this:

Green box = country
Red box = city
Blue box = coast

That means there will be a total of 4 mats by the end of next year. These three modular ones and the one, larger campaign mat.

[Kaiser]

There will be a larger campaign mat too? :)

[wargamer]

Oh this is going to be good. Now if I can just arrange to pay for them.

[Flying Officer Kyte]

If you check back to the Facebook site things have moved on. Ares comunications now say Mousepad type material,68x98 cm or 27" x 39" at a SRP of $34.90 each. Still no release date though.
Rob.

[LewdDude]

If you check back to the Facebook site things have moved on. Ares comunications now say Mousepad type material,68x98 cm or 27" x 39" at a SRP of $34.90 each. Still no release date though.
Rob.

Just enough to qualify for free shipping from 12-7! yee haw!

:thumbsup:

[Jager]

Why am I looking at these?? I have both Nexus mats, and 2 from Iberian Shadow!
Ares must have programmed my computer (via cookies) to insert subliminal commands to buy product like a Pavlovian dog.
Nah, they're just really neat!
Karl

[Oberst Hajj]

I know what you mean Karl, it's not as if I need more mats. I've got about 6-7 different ones already! Oh well, when these come out I'll be adding them to the Aerodrome Accessories site as pre-orders and end up getting one of each for my self as well. lol

[Flying Officer Kyte]

I can't help it. I missed out on the first ones because I felt they were a bit garish for home use. However, now we are doing shows we need something a bit more in your face to attract the punters. So I guess I'll be buying into this as well. Can't rely on Chris having to bring his mats all the time.
Rob.

[Zakopious]

Why am I looking at these?? I have both Nexus mats, and 2 from Iberian Shadow!
Ares must have programmed my computer (via cookies) to insert subliminal commands to buy product like a Pavlovian dog.
Nah, they're just really neat!
Karl

I also have I have both Nexus mats; between the two of us we have six mats to play on.

Perhaps we should get a couple more, just in case.

Ken

[Alexandre]

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: !!!

[MoonSylver]

I'm looking forward to these almost as much as the new planes. I'm tired of playing on an old "Battlemasters" mat. :puke:

[jbmacek]

Three mats - city, country and coast.
http://www.aresgames.eu/games/wings-of-glory-line/game-mats

[phililphall]

Drat. No trenches. Maybe the campaign map will have them.

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Well spotted John.
Yes! They do live up to expectations.
Now all we need is one with No man's land!
Sorry Phil yours came in whilst I was looking at them.
Rob.

[Nightbomber]

Second that.
I wonder if they are so smartly made they could be laid in different configurations (except the coastal one of course), or just one...

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Second that.
I wonder if they are so smartly made they could be laid in different configurations (except the coastal one of course), or just one...

If you look on the site as given in post 50 you can see the different juxtapositions of the mats. I think you will be pleased.
Rob.

[marcoperse]

News about the new mats:

http://www.aresgames.eu/5944

and here we can, finally, have some pictures (uhmmmmmmm, city and coast mats):

http://www.aresgames.eu/games/wings-of-glory-line/game-mats

Marco

[gully_raker]

Three mats - city, country and coast.
http://www.aresgames.eu/games/wings-of-glory-line/game-mats

:thumbsup: Thanks for the link John. I have been waiting to see what the "Sea Mat" looked like.
Definately going to get Country plus Sea as they will be a big change from my Trenches & No Mans Land mat.

[Doug]

I do not know how many I will be getting that depends on funds but I will get one of each and hopefully two. Look on the ARES web sight for combinations of these mats very interesting.

[Naharaht]

These look good.

[Oberst Hajj]

Sweet!!!

[LewdDude]

6 matt combo! whoa! Epic! :thumbsup:

[afilter]

Anyone see a MSRP? Hoping they will be less than the Nexus version as the pics of 6 put together look awesome. I was thinking about getting a large hotz map, but will wait to check these out closer.

[Oberst Hajj]

I think I saw someplace that the price would be the same/similar to the Nexus mats.

[Flying Officer Kyte]

I think I saw someplace that the price would be the same/similar to the Nexus mats.

See my post 42 on this thread Herr Oberst.
Rob.

[Marechallannes]

Not bad!

Six available mat pieces. :eek:

:money:

[Nightbomber]

Any news about preorders? ...hmmm, the stuff will be quite heavy:erk: Shipment cost may be high...:money:

[CappyTom]

I need to win the lottery. They look great.

Thomas

[Stormkahn]

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=wings%20of%20glory%20mats%20pre%20order&source=web&cd=9&ved=0CF8QFjAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gtsdistribution.com%2Fminiature-games%2Fminiature-games-by-ares-games.asp&ei=L_GQUPbTBMaM0AXKqYDQDQ&usg=AFQjCNESqSPtE0n5gf5-ebF-zPMJ16nJOw

GTS distribution have them availble for pre-order on 15th Nov for a Dec release date, so it looks like a prime candidate for the xmas list to me. :p

The only slight reservation is the size really, we're going to need at least 2 if not 3 and they'll be ~£25 a time + postage to fit a 6'x4' table, should be good though.

cheers,

Dave.

[Carl_Brisgamer]

I wonder how much it would cost to get an all water map made from the same material..........

Hmmmm.

[Oberst Hajj]

That's interesting since they are not showing on the Ares site as a December release (in fact, the Dual packs have slipped to Dec) and when I talked to Ares about getting some advanced production copies to review, they said they were not quite ready for any production samples to be out in the US yet. Both of these lead me to believe that pre-orders for December are a little bit of wishful thinking.

As soon as Ares let's me know a release date, I'll let you guys know and they'll be up on the AA site for pre-order.

[Doug]

Thanks Keith

[Goldom]

I got a look at the new playmats yesterday while visiting my FLGS. The images showed up on his ordering screen while I was ordering some of the upcoming miniatures. They are quite attractive. I particularly liked the mat with the coastline. If memory serves, they will retail for $30.00 each, or something very close to that.

[grumpybear]

O dear another strain on hobby budget

[Burt]

I think that Ares have got a winner here the various combinations of mats look superb.
All of the Nexus mat problems seem to have been addressed; logo not too big, and many combinations allowed by the matching road/river positions on the mat edges and even a coastal mat for the guys with seaplanes.
The only thing I find odd is the curious size of the mats maybe that's a production problem.
How many to buy, probably all of them, if I can get it past madam.:)
Will look great for our National Aerodrome Day if we could get a whole row of adjacent mats on a long table.

[marcoperse]

How many to buy, probably all of them, if I can get it past madam.:D

I have the same problem: I'd like to buy all of them to connect with the 2 Nexus mats I have, but FIRST I'm compelled to bypass my wife anti-aircraft weapons!!! :smack::smack::smack:

Marco

[Oberst Hajj]

These have been announced with a December release date! They can now be pre-ordered though the Aerodrome Accessories (http://www.aerodromeaccessories.com/index.php/official-products-1.html) site. There is even a combo deal for all three that will save you $10.

[Flying Officer Kyte]

These have been announced with a December release date! They can now be pre-ordered though the Aerodrome Accessories (http://www.aerodromeaccessories.com/index.php/official-products-1.html) site. There is even a combo deal for all three that will save you $10.

Could you please give a rough estimate of the postage charges for the set of three to the U.K. Herr Oberst.
Rob.

[Burt]

Yes please


Could you please give a rough estimate of the postage charges for the set of three to the U.K. Herr Oberst.
Rob.

[Wodin]

Wish they had made a WW1 version and a WW2 version..the WW1 version having a trench system etc etc...oh well...still look great though.

[marcoperse]

Wish they had made a WW1 version and a WW2 version..the WW1 version having a trench system etc etc...oh well...still look great though.

I think you can use the "old" ones for WWI (they had trenches) and the "new" ones for WWII. Almost this is what I think I'll do

Marco

[Doug]

No good had to order mine

[Oberst Hajj]

Could you please give a rough estimate of the postage charges for the set of three to the U.K. Herr Oberst.
Rob.

Postage overseas is a little expensive as the weight and size of these are pretty hefty. For the combo deal, the only option is Priority mail, at about $63, but it's faster then the First Class I normally ship at. For a single mat, it can go First Class for about $22.



Wish they had made a WW1 version and a WW2 version..the WW1 version having a trench system etc etc...oh well...still look great though.

There is going to be a WWI only mat coming out later. Not 100% sure if it will have a full on "no man's land" like we normally think of, but it will be designed for a campaign.

[BobP]

Looking at the maps again and they look awesome. Like the three of them with the coast map 1st. As pointed out they seem more of a WWII look. Maybe ARES will come out with a WWI theme map. Looks like a defenite buy when they come out.

[Naharaht]

If a set of three will cost $63 to ship to the U.K., it might be worth waiting to see what U.K. sellers will be charging.

[Burt]

There is going to be a WWI only mat coming out later. Not 100% sure if it will have a full on "no man's land" like we normally think of, but it will be designed for a campaign.

Hope the WWI trench mat? will be able to be used in combination with the other new mats, that would be fantastic, it would give a very versatile set of games mats.

[Oberst Hajj]

Hope the WWI trench mat? will be able to be used in combination with the other new mats, that would be fantastic, it would give a very versatile set of games mats.

Unless they changes things from what I've seen, it will not be compatible with these new ones.

[Oberst Hajj]

If a set of three will cost $63 to ship to the U.K., it might be worth waiting to see what U.K. sellers will be charging.

It could be. But if the other products are any indication, I'm thinking they will be about £35 retail. So, for a set of three you are looking at £105 or $167 vs. $140 ordered through me. VAT and customs might make them equal, but they might also come in under the radar (as most of my shipments seem to do) and not get those charges.

Regardless, I don't think ordering these from the States will save you lots of money like on the smaller miniatures, but most likely it will save you a little and you can have them a month of so sooner :D

[Flying Officer Kyte]

:thumbsup:Good enough for me Keith.
I like to support my Local Colorado Games Store.;)
Rob.

[Angiolillo]

Some WW1 action on the mats made for GenCon at Lucca Games. Not production mats, just demo ones with larger logos and the same drawings:

http://www.gioconomicon.net/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=thumbnails&album=728&page=15&sort

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Thanks for the pictures Andrea.
I was already sold anyway.
i have sent my pre-order to Keith.
Rob.

[Willi Von Klugermann]

These look much better than the Nexus maps. Also kudos for the geomorphic quality.

[Ed2]

They look great. Will purchase as soon as they're out.

[Doug]

Could not resist ordered 1 of each from the Aerodrome Accessories hopefully they will be out by Christmas this year!

[BobP]

Checked ARES site and the mats are set to be released in Jan 13. I also saw that the repaints and duel packs have been pushed to Dec. Just a little push back on the release but have enough planes to play with until the next release.

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Checked ARES site and the mats are set to be released in Jan 13. I also saw that the repaints and duel packs have been pushed to Dec. Just a little push back on the release but have enough planes to play with until the next release.

:hmm:Looks as if all my Christmas presents will be early Birthday presents then Bob.
Rob.

[BobP]

I have my preorder in with 12-7 and saw all were to be released this month. Then I saw that the duel packs were moved to Dec so had to wait because of the preorder policy. So today I see all the Nov releases are now a Dec release. Not to bad makes them a Christmas present. Guess I have to get the wife something now. Looked at the maps again and I agree need on solid sea map.

[wargamer]

Well not so good, way I read it from Ares website;

December 2012
WGF101 – WW1 Wings of Glory Spad XIII Airplane Pack (http://www.aresgames.eu/games/ww1-wings-of-glory-line/ww1-wings-of-glory-airplane-packs/spad-xiii)
WGF102 – WW1 Wings of Glory Sopwith Camel Airplane Pack (http://www.aresgames.eu/games/ww1-wings-of-glory-line/ww1-wings-of-glory-airplane-packs/sopwith-camel)
WGF103 – WW1 Wings of Glory Albatros D.Va Airplane Pack (http://www.aresgames.eu/games/ww1-wings-of-glory-line/ww1-wings-of-glory-airplane-packs/albatros-d-va)
WGF104 – WW1 Wings of Glory Fokker Dr.I Airplane Pack (http://www.aresgames.eu/games/ww1-wings-of-glory-line/ww1-wings-of-glory-airplane-packs/fokker-dr-i)
War of the Ring - Card Box and Sleeves (Gandalf version)

(http://www.aresgames.eu/games/war-of-the-ring-line/war-of-the-ring-card-box-and-sleeves-gandalf-version)January 2013

WGF001X – WW1 Wings of Glory – Duel Packs (http://www.aresgames.eu/games/ww1-wings-of-glory-line/ww1-wings-of-glory-duel-pack)
WGS002A - WW2 Wings of Glory Rules & Accessory Pack (http://www.aresgames.eu/games/ww2-wings-of-glory-line/ww2-wings-of-glory-rules-and-accessories-pack)
WGA502A/B/C - Wings of Glory Game Mats (http://www.aresgames.eu/games/wings-of-glory-line/game-mats)





I have my preorder in with 12-7 and saw all were to be released this month. Then I saw that the duel packs were moved to Dec so had to wait because of the preorder policy. So today I see all the Nov releases are now a Dec release. Not to bad makes them a Christmas present. Guess I have to get the wife something now. Looked at the maps again and I agree need on solid sea map.

[marcoperse]

uhmmm, not so bad news: I'v time to build up my finances once again and in december I'll receive a better wage:D

Marco

[BobP]

Seems to change every time I check the site but nomatter. They will be here when they get here.

[Jager]

Seems to change every time I check the site but nomatter. They will be here when they get here.

And that's changed how since we've been playing this game? :p
Karl

[Burt]

Have just measured my dining table and I think I can get all three new mats on together so maybe the size of the mats isn't odd at all but just right;)

[Oberst Hajj]

I initially thought the size on the old Nexus mats was odd as well. But then I started playing it on my dinning table and they were a perfect fit.

[Flying Officer Kyte]

As I use a base board on top of my table I will just have to make a new one to fit the size of the mats. It will still be well worth the trouble.
Rob.

[marcoperse]

the table in my living room is almost 4ftx2ft the three mats would fit perfectly ;)

Marco

[Hedeby]

Drool ! - what is that sound? - oh yes - my credit card weeping softly !!

[sparty]

There is no reason I can think of not to snag the new cool designs. Love em!

[Cujo8-1]

I've recently pre-ordered the mats, but checked the Ares site this morning to discover an apparent delay for release of February.

http://www.aresgames.eu/upcoming-products

I eagerly anticipate their arrival!

[ajbartman]

Too bad this won't work with the old mats, I also both of them.



I don't think so looking at the pictures.
It looks a far better product than the previous WOW mats.
Looking closely it looks like you can combine any number of mats as all the exit points for roads and rivers seem symmetrical, great for really large games.
I am very tempted to splash out and get a couple
Don

[MoonSylver]

I'm jones-ing for these so bad. Just picked up all most $200 worth of planes last night & now I still can't wait for these! :sick::cry::lol:

[Oberst Hajj]

You will not have to wait much longer Rob.

[grumpybear]

Like the look , not sure if I need or the biggy if I can afford with all the other goodies comming soon

[MoonSylver]

You will not have to wait much longer Rob.

Oh, I know. :) I'm just so well stocked on planes now I want something nice to put them on. ;)

[Ducalutra]

Can't wait to get hold of some!!

[diceslinger]

I see these game mats and the dual packs now have a street date of January 28. A very nice surprise!

[7eat51]

I think these mats will add a lot when introducing the game to others - not only more visually appealing, but feels like a more complete game.

For those of you who have played with the previous mats, do you use them for more than aesthetics? Do the terrain serve functional purposes?



It looks tempting.

Nice avatar.

[Casey]

Did I see somewhere that a special pack of these three pads will be released at a special price or did I dream it ??

:confused:

[Ed2]

Did I see somewhere that a special pack of these three pads will be released at a special price or did I dream it ??

:confused:

The Aerodrome has a special price gaming mat combo deal.

[Oberst Hajj]

I think these mats will add a lot when introducing the game to others - not only more visually appealing, but feels like a more complete game.

For those of you who have played with the previous mats, do you use them for more than aesthetics? Do the terrain serve functional purposes?


Officially, the terrain serves no function beyond looks, but it's just a matter of declaring a building the target for bombing or photographing.

[Avetikus]

Could you guys tell me why there's always a pic of TWO boxes when they show these mats?
Are both included in a single purchase of a 'Countryside' map?
Does this mean there's two pieces to 'Countryside', two more for 'city', and two more for 'water'?

And is the ~2ft. x 3ft. size for each single mat or total size of the 'Countryside' map?

Haven't seen the 'old style' or even the 'new style' yet but am interested.


-Av
M

[Oberst Hajj]

It's only for visual effect. There are only 3 physical mats, each come in a single box. The ~2x3' is per mat.

Hope that helps.

[Avetikus]

Ah. okay. it does help. Thanks Oberst.

[Captain Chum]

There is no reason I can think of not to snag the new cool designs. Love em!

Agreed. :)

[Von Schlepp]

very nice. can't wait...but we pla WoW, all we do is wait.

[BobP]

I think these new mats will see like hotcakes as the look really great. So many ways to put them together and create different terrain to fly over.

[diceslinger]

The street date in today on the gaming mats, any actual sightings? Any resellers actually received these yet?

[Flying Officer Kyte]

The street date in today on the gaming mats, any actual sightings? Any resellers actually received these yet?

Get out there all you Twitchers. There will be a free G&T in the Mess for the man or woman who makes the first sighting of Spring.;)
Kyte.

[Oberst Hajj]

I should be getting them in today... at least I better!

[Flying Officer Kyte]

I should be getting them in today... at least I better!

I bet I won't be able to get three of those big boys through Her Majesty's Customs and Excise without a hefty bill.:eek::money:
Rob.

[BobP]

Well have to see when I get the one's ordered. Had to get 2 of the country side mats. These may replace the Hotz fields mats I use but I may have to get a board to put these new mats on because of their size.

[Tarty]

Fantastic stuff will have to get a couple of these, perfect for a rookie like myself.

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Just had a notification from the Herr Oberst that mine are on the way.
Rob.

[Dan-Sam]

Fantastic stuff will have to get a couple of these, perfect for a rookie like myself.

There are no rookies here, just people who, likes beautiful flying machines and who don't :)

[Diamondback]

Too bad there isn't a coast mat with the entire long side water and an "open sea" mat, those could be fun for cross-Channel scenarios.

Maybe next wave, right? :)

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Too bad there isn't a coast mat with the entire long side water and an "open sea" mat, those could be fun for cross-Channel scenarios.

Maybe next wave, right? :)

If they sell enough of these mats, who knows what may materilize DB.
I could use a sea mat for my North Sea patrol with my Blimp and flying boats, sub and Dreadnaught.
Also for Adriatic patrols with my Italian Wing.
Rob.

[Diamondback]

And for a Bonus Point, once the art's done they could probably be leveraged straight-across to SoG--two revenue streams off the same development cost. (Though personally, my ideal SoG mats would be reproductions of period nautical charts...)

[Doug]

I agree with Rob a sea map would be ideal for both Europe and the Pacific and the Mediteranian and the Atlantic :hmm:

[Burt]

I agree a sea mat for SoG or WoG would be a good idea.

[somaliavet]

Too bad there isn't a coast mat with the entire long side water and an "open sea" mat, those could be fun for cross-Channel scenarios.

Maybe next wave, right? :)

Do you mean a coastal map like this?
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I agree about the open sea map too. I think I saw somewhere that one might be considered for a later release.

[BobP]

Sea map is a great idea. They could be for Pacific battles with no land around or they could make an island (Midway) map. There are many things they can do with maps.

[Diamondback]

Thanks, SV--for some reason I thought it had the water stop a bit short of the corner. :o

Bob, I think islands might be better as a separate accessory, printed on transparency-sheet--Scotch-tape 'em down, peel off when done and you can have a custom map every time without them having to do artwork, production and inventory for a zillion map variations. Design, print, sell--it could be a quite quick, easy and inexpensive-to-develop money-mker for Ares.

Maybe "tiles" of all the major Pacific island airbases?

[MoonSylver]

Fantastic stuff will have to get a couple of these, perfect for a rookie like myself.

Hope you love them as much as I do. I'm THRILLED to have something nice to fly on now! :clap:

[Super Handley]

For people who own the WoW old mats which do they prefer? I probably won't have room for both new/old WoW... and am seriously considering buying new.

[CappyTom]

For people who own the WoW old mats which do they prefer? I probably won't have room for both new/old WoW... and am seriously considering buying new.

For WWI the old mats are great. For WWII you could use more room to fly. The new ones look great but I have plenty of mats so I will just be getting the planes as that's what I really want.

Thomas

[Angiolillo]

I think islands might be better as a separate accessory, printed on transparency-sheet--Scotch-tape 'em down, peel off when done and you can have a custom map every time without them having to do artwork, production and inventory for a zillion map variations. Design, print, sell--it could be a quite quick, easy and inexpensive-to-develop money-mker for Ares.

On a simiar frame of mind, we authors proposed something similar (but we imagined it in cardboard) for Sails of Glory. Let's see what it will be released.

[Diamondback]

Andrea, problem is cardboard tiles don't like to stay put, and don't like to separate nicely from most fixatives... anyone ever try Blu-Tack on a mousepad to know if it comes off clean? If so, that stuff might work and it might be a non-issue after all..

[David Manley]

Cardboard will be fine for SoG islands as long as (a) they aren't too big and (b) a heavy grade of cardboard is used. Large, thin islands are likely to warp, and would be prone to being knocked in the heat of battle (he says from experience)

[Angiolillo]

Good point. Terrain won't be included in the starting set, so there is still more time to think about that.

[Oberst Hajj]

For people who own the WoW old mats which do they prefer? I probably won't have room for both new/old WoW... and am seriously considering buying new.

It's the new mats for me... they are just simply gorgeous in person! They also give you the option to scale the size of your playing area when needed.

[Boney10]

I bet I won't be able to get three of those big boys through Her Majesty's Customs and Excise without a hefty bill.:eek::money:
Rob.

I have refrained from ordering for the very reason, would appreciate if you would PM me the damage from customs.
Seen nothing yet as to a release in UK, so I may have to try ordering them singly from AA and see if customs get me

[BobP]

I see this a reason for them to produce just a sea mat. Can be used for Sails and to extend the seacoast mat in the new set. ould not be hard to produce a blue mat.

[fast.git]

Received my mats Friday... gorgeous! Looking forward to my first game on them (later this week if all goes well).

I, too, would be in favor of additional mats... especially one with "No Man's Land" and trenches running across it. Open ocean would be pretty cool, too.

[MoonSylver]

Received my mats Friday... gorgeous! Looking forward to my first game on them (later this week if all goes well).

I, too, would be in favor of additional mats... especially one with "No Man's Land" and trenches running across it. Open ocean would be pretty cool, too.

Yes they are! :thumbsup: I'll second a No Man's Land map. :)

[MoonSylver]

Received my mats Friday... gorgeous! Looking forward to my first game on them (later this week if all goes well).

I, too, would be in favor of additional mats... especially one with "No Man's Land" and trenches running across it. Open ocean would be pretty cool, too.

Yes they are! :thumbsup: I'll second a No Man's Land map. :)

[Flying Officer Kyte]

The No mans' Land map would put the icing on the cake for me. It would not seem so bad to just buy one extra mat from time to time, after you had made the initial outlay for the first three.
Rob.

[Bluedevil]

:pray:Yes please...Trenches, craters...lots of mud to fight and fly over :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Diamondback]

Dittos on No Man's Land. :)

[Burt]

A No Man's land and a sea mat, together with the other three mats would give all the combinations most people would want.

[P-51D]

Still waiting on mine to arrive, but just have to say that I saw the one the owner of a LGS bought foR demonstrations and they are amazing!

[billingspike]

I got one of each ,, but i'll be getting 3 more for those really big showdowns ,, and the price is right.Really great job on these.

[Casey]

Does someone know where I can order those marvelous game mats in Europe ? US is far away and the shipping cost is a bit high.

:surrender:

[Oberst Hajj]

I have refrained from ordering for the very reason, would appreciate if you would PM me the damage from customs.
Seen nothing yet as to a release in UK, so I may have to try ordering them singly from AA and see if customs get me

Chris, I can tell you ordering all three at once will have you quite a bit on shipping. I played around with that for the international order quite a bit last week to see if I could cut the cost for you guys. The customs issue can be worked a little.

[BobP]

Just checked my tracking and they are at the local UPS so should be here tomorrow. I like the island idea also. Sea and islands for both air and sea games.

[diceslinger]

Just got my mats today and I am very impressed! They look great, and at $22 from MM an excellent value. I've been putting a lot of ideas on hold waiting for these!

[Oberst Hajj]

I posted this over in another thread, but thought it should be in hear as well.

They are made from the exact same material. The new mats are about 1/2 inch (12mm) longer then the old ones. The biggest differences are...

The logo size and visibility:

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And the ground scale:

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[Oberst Hajj]

I posted this over in another thread, but thought it should be in hear as well.

They are made from the exact same material. The new mats are about 1/2 inch (12mm) longer then the old ones. The biggest differences are...

The logo size and visibility:

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And the ground scale:

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[Flying Officer Kyte]

Those look much more of a job than the original mats Keith.
Thanks for posting up the comparison. I look forward to reiceving mine with even moreexcitement now that I have seen the contrast with the old version.
Rob.

[BobP]

Received my mats and they are nice. I think they lean more to WWII but are good for any flight.

[P-51D]

I agree the altitude difference of the ground aspects, lends me to believe these are more geared towards WWII and the higher altitudes that that era's aircraft were capable of. Either way, they are just as useable for WWI battles as well.

[Oberst Hajj]

Don't dismiss these as plausible for WWI:

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[fast.git]

Always with an answer... great pics! Thanks, Herr Oberst.
:)

[Oberst Hajj]

Always with an answer... great pics! Thanks, Herr Oberst.
:)

I do my best :pint:

[P-51D]

Thanks for the gentle correction ;)

[pmerighi]

Nice mats !!! :thumbsup:

[Jwar]

I knew I shoulda picked one of these up the other day, instead I bought 3 more P-40s, thanks for posting the pics Ill have to go back and order one now.

[Oberst Hajj]

On a related note, these should be back in stock on the AA site later tonight (UPS has to show up still).

[tikkifriend]

:clap:Great news
need new mats

[vigliotti]

Amazing quality on the city mat. We will be picking up the other two at some point soon.

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[Captain Chum]

Looks like a happy junior wingman! My two boys have grown up but I have some great memories of playing tabletop games with them. We still play tabletop games but they are in their twenties and are very busy.

[vigliotti]

Yeah we have fun with it. After some hesitation my girlfriend decided to join in on the fun. We are hooked!

[tikkifriend]

:pray:Yes please...Trenches, craters...lots of mud to fight and fly over :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

got to agree with that
Paul

[Kahlerclan]

Yes they are! :thumbsup: I'll second a No Man's Land map. :)

No Man's Land - third, forth - whatever we're up to, would be awesome! :cheezy: I would also buy open ocean for those seaplane adventures... Hope Ares is reading:pray:

[Hunter]

Yes, I got my 3 mats last Friday, look really good. I agree with the others here and I would purchase a No Mans Land and Open Sea mat if they were to be available.

[Walram]

I just got the city map tonight and am wondering if it is based on an actual city and if so, what is the name of the city and the province is it in? (Andre, If you would answer, it would be much appreciated.)
I probably overdo the research in games, but it would be handy to identify the items on the map so as to declare targets, give it a name, etc.
I just did a scan of the city and nearby town so I can give a bombing or recon mission.

[P-51D]

All three mats arrived last night and WOW, pictures no matter how good, don't give these things justice at all! Way to go Ares! These will sell out sooner rather than later me thinks!

[BobP]

I got 1 city, 1 coast and 2 country mats. They could make a new WWI mat and for sure just an open sea mat. Open sea could be for use with SoG also,

[Burt]

I haven't identified the city on the city mat but the city on the coast mat is Dubrovnik in Croatia.
Where come August I shall be strolling down its sunny streets.
As this is a real place the city mat could be based on a real city as well.
Still looking
Don




I just got the city map tonight and am wondering if it is based on an actual city and if so, what is the name of the city and the province is it in? (Andre, If you would answer, it would be much appreciated.)
I probably overdo the research in games, but it would be handy to identify the items on the map so as to declare targets, give it a name, etc.
I just did a scan of the city and nearby town so I can give a bombing or recon mission.

[Boney10]

Any one seen any sign of the mats reaching UK yet?

[Burt]

I'm afraid we are last in the queue again Chris:(
The UK market is obviously too small for them to rush stock here, much to the detriment of our own stockists as people rush to order from the states which again reduces the amount that our own stores will sell, it's a downward spiral

[David Manley]

Yes, it would be nce to think that we could be patient and wait, so that we didn't end up ordering from the US........

(looks at pre-order with Keith for the next WW1 releases, shuffles feet a bit.......)

That said I'm sure there are far more players in the UK than just the cadre here, and only a few order form the US like some of us do, surely??? Bearing in mind the numbers of people we talk to at the shows where we've run games, we often have discussions about the Aerodrome (spreading the word, signing up new members) and pointing existing players off to the trade stands. From experience in my own local gaming groups there are only a few who regularly, if ever, order stuff from overseas, even in this web-enabled globalised world we live in. So, whilst Esdevium and some FLGS (not that I have one, out here in the sticks) might miss out on some profit due to our urgent need to obtain Ares goodies at the earliest opportunity I doubt we are making a serious dent in their business. If we are then that would imply that business was VERY small, and that in itself would be a big worry.

[Boney10]

Looks like a call/ email to Esdevium is on the cards

[STEPHEN NAPIER]

We use the old mats and also a large A1 laminated aerial picture that's hard to beat. I have ordered two mats and waiting on delivery.

The comparison if really useful. I was not going to get the mats but your pictures of the new ones....have sold me! Thanks

[Flying Officer Kyte]

My mats arrived today, and on the strength of the quality and looks alone I will be getting that fourth mat.
Rob.

[HTRAINo]

Yeah we have fun with it. After some hesitation my girlfriend decided to join in on the fun. We are hooked!

My wife retired after a few games. Some advice; Let the Wookie win ;)

[john snelling]

Always let the wife win accouple. Happy wife, happy life.

[Oberst Hajj]

Yes, it would be nce to think that we could be patient and wait, so that we didn't end up ordering from the US........

(looks at pre-order with Keith for the next WW1 releases, shuffles feet a bit.......)

That said I'm sure there are far more players in the UK than just the cadre here, and only a few order form the US like some of us do, surely??? Bearing in mind the numbers of people we talk to at the shows where we've run games, we often have discussions about the Aerodrome (spreading the word, signing up new members) and pointing existing players off to the trade stands. From experience in my own local gaming groups there are only a few who regularly, if ever, order stuff from overseas, even in this web-enabled globalised world we live in. So, whilst Esdevium and some FLGS (not that I have one, out here in the sticks) might miss out on some profit due to our urgent need to obtain Ares goodies at the earliest opportunity I doubt we are making a serious dent in their business. If we are then that would imply that business was VERY small, and that in itself would be a big worry.

Miniatures sales to the UK have been steady, but not alarmingly so for any LFGS. In fact, most of the sales I do have are for complete sets of a series... so from die hard players, most likely from this site. Sales of one or two minis to the UK have been on the smallish side.

When you guys can order something from the States faster and cheaper (in most cases), it's hard not to justify those purchases.

[STEPHEN NAPIER]

I have just purchased two of the new mats (City and Coast) and the look great.78779

[Flying Officer Kyte]

They do look great don't they Stephen.
Mine arrived on Monday from the good Oberst.
Rob.

[Burt]

The new mats have been out a month now, I wonder when we will see them in the shops in the UK or anywhere in Europe for that matter.

[Casey]

The new mats have been out a month now, I wonder when we will see them in the shops in the UK or anywhere in Europe for that matter.

Agree with you Don. It starts to be a little bit long ... Why such a big difference in term of distribution ? Same thing about WW2 RAP ... :(

[David Manley]

The new mats have been out a month now, I wonder when we will see them in the shops in the UK or anywhere in Europe for that matter.

IGUK has them listed for a shade over £25 each

[Burt]

Listed but not in stock yet.


IGUK has them listed for a shade over £25 each

[David Manley]

Listed but not in stock yet.

Ah, missed that bit :)

[Marechallannes]

The gaming mats will reach Germany next week.

Got a confirmation from my dealer.

[Casey]

The gaming mats will reach Germany next week.

Got a confirmation from my dealer.

Thanks to share this Sven. I'll track my usual sellers in France.

[Burt]

Yep, things seem to be moving now.:)

[Boney10]

Listed but not in stock yet.

Sorry chaps I'm to blame for them out of stock

[Captain Chum]

I just received a couple of them. Great looking maps.

Best quality that I have ever seen in a game map.

[Angiolillo]

;) Thanlks so much.

[Ed2]

You did out-do yourself on these new mats. I especially like the way they can be re-arranged.

Can't wait to see the Sails of Glory mats.

[Naharaht]

Hopefully the Sails of Glory mats will be compatible with the Wings of Glory ones. I suppose there will be a all blue mat and one showing some islands.

[Captain Chum]

Hopefully the Sails of Glory mats will be compatible with the Wings of Glory ones. I suppose there will be a all blue mat and one showing some islands.

Sails of Glory mats! I did not know about them. They should make them so that they are compatible WW2 Wings of Glory.

[Doug]

I was hopeing for an all blue mat without any islands, these can be made up or bought to tast. For me fix islands tends to impose on the type of game played. A plain blue mat would the automatically fit in for WW1 or WW2.

[Oberst Hajj]

The Sails mat(s) are going to be the same size as the Wings mats. So that is a good sign. They are also doing terrain as a separate item (already in the Starter Set), so I'm sure we will get at least one all blue mat.

[robdimeglio]

The Sails mat(s) are going to be the same size as the Wings mats. So that is a good sign. They are also doing terrain as a separate item (already in the Starter Set), so I'm sure we will get at least one all blue mat.

Indeed, the Sails of Glory Game Mat will be the same size and material as Wings of Glory's ones. However, to facilitate playing Sails of Glory, we are overprinting on the mat a very light grid of lines that help to assess the direction of the wind with respect to the ship.
And of course there will be a not-so-obtrusive Sails of Glory logo somewhere in a corner :-)

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Sounds like just what I'm looking for Roberto. I can then sail my ships up the Adriatic and have your magnificent Italian airforce send them to the bottom.
Any news about a mat with "No man's land" on it? I now have all three of the new mats plus one extra countryside one, and the sea plus a "No man's land" would just about make any scenario feasible.
Thanks for the heads up.
Rob.

[Burt]

Sounds promising Roberto.
A plain blue mat with separate compatible islands is the way to go.
Don

[David Manley]

Hopefully those lines will be very light :)

[Doug]

Sounds good to me :thumbsup:

[Burt]

Mats arrived today, one of each:)
They are a lot better than the old Wings of War ones.
Looking forward to trying them out soon.

[Waxfrance]

Aaaaah ! After a long wait, 'ere come the new mat in France ! (glory to ludikbazar ^^)
I'll get mine next week ! I can't wait ! ;-)
Yes, me too, one of each !

[itchy]

just ordered mine from my lgs they made me an offer I couldnt refuse on all 3 ,if I put Wog games on for them ,pick them up next thursday

[Oberst Hajj]

just ordered mine from my lgs they made me an offer I couldnt refuse on all 3 ,if I put Wog games on for them ,pick them up next thursday

That's a win win Richard!

[BobP]

IK see that ARES is going to produce sea mats for Sails of Glory. They should work with these mats so now many possiabilities. GREAT

[Casey]

Aaaaah ! After a long wait, 'ere come the new mat in France ! (glory to ludikbazar ^^)
I'll get mine next week ! I can't wait ! ;-)
Yes, me too, one of each !

Three (one of each) are on their way to my home from another French seller. It seems that Ares news were finally distributed to France.
Can't wait too !
Now waiting for the WGS RAP ... and the new serie of WGS minis ...

[Waxfrance]

I've just received the mats this morning ! And my first game on the Countryside mat.What a great pleasure ! (and it was a great duel with an Albatros D.V against a Sopwith Camel).
Magnificient game mat, excellent product, thanks to Ares Games ! (only 25€ each, a very good price too ^_^)
The mat quality is very impressive to me. Very good touch feeling, and very good play sensation.

[Bluedevil]

Sebastien I've PM'd you ;)

[DeRuyter]

IK see that ARES is going to produce sea mats for Sails of Glory. They should work with these mats so now many possiabilities. GREAT

Hmm - just picked up three mats over the weekend (Cold Wars) - 2 countryside and 1 city. Now if the SoG mats are compatible I'll need a coastal map too!

Actually you can see the coastal map used on Ares you tube SoG movement tutorial.

[gully_raker]

:erk: After waiting for soooo damn long I Emailed Milsims again on Monday & got a reply they were "unpacking them now" after being told two weeks ago that they were expected that weekend.:hmm:

Dont know why they are being so slow in getting them out.
Oh well everything comes to he who waits.:confused: I HOPE!:p

[Carl_Brisgamer]

:erk: After waiting for soooo damn long I Emailed Milsims again on Monday & got a reply they were "unpacking them now" after being told two weeks ago that they were expected that weekend.:hmm:

Dont know why they are being so slow in getting them out.
Oh well everything comes to he who waits.:confused: I HOPE!:p

Just spoke to Milsims on the phone, they actually didn't get the delivery until Wednesday afternoon - WGF Dual packs, WGS RAP, new maps, WGF series I reprints, the lot. I was assured all pre-orders will be shipped by Monday, we should have them by Wed-Thu next week.

[STEPHEN NAPIER]

Yes, I agree. A "no-man's land" with trenches that would fit between two of the new countryside or city mats is possible the next matt I would need and use.

[Dwarflord22]

I already had both of the Wings of War gaming mats, but couldn't resist ordering the new Wings of Glory mats with all of the positive comments on the forum...and I'm very glad I did! :) They look amazing and the logo is barely noticeable!! :thumbsup: I am looking forward to putting them into action. :fokker::camel: