Plane list for the World Wide Knights of the Air campaign

[Oberst Hajj]

Hello all, can some of you WWI aircraft experts go through my list below and verify that I have the correct information please. The list includes only those planes that have official Wings of War cards currently available. If I am missing any planes that have official cards, please list them along with the years they were in front line operations. If any of the ones on my list are not actually out yet, please let me know that along with what future box/booster it is supposed to be in.

This information is being used to compile the master list of planes that will be available during the World Wide Campaign of Knights of the Air (yes, it’s getting closer to happening!)

Thank you for your timely help in this matter,

Col. Hajj


Year: 1916 - ally - Airco D.H. 2 -
Year: 1916 - ally - Hanriot HD.I -
Year: 1916 - ally - Morane-Saulnier Type N -
Year: 1916 - ally - Nieuport 11 -
Year: 1916 - ally - Nieuport 17 -
Year: 1916 - ally - Nieuport 21 -
Year: 1916 - ally - RAF R.E. 8 -
Year: 1916 - ally - SPAD VII -

Year: 1917 - ally - Airco D.H. 2 -
Year: 1917 - ally - Airco D.H. 4 -
Year: 1917 - ally - Breguet BR 14 -
Year: 1917 - ally - Hanriot HD.I -
Year: 1917 - ally - Nieuport 11 -
Year: 1917 - ally - Nieuport 17 -
Year: 1917 - ally - Nieuport 21 -
Year: 1917 - ally - Nieuport 23 -
Year: 1917 - ally - RAF R.E. 8 -
Year: 1917 - ally - RAF S.E.5a -
Year: 1917 - ally - Sopwith Camel -
Year: 1917 - ally - Sopwith Triplane -
Year: 1917 - ally - SPAD XIII -

Year: 1918 - ally - Hanriot HD.I -
Year: 1918 - ally - RAF R.E. 8 -
Year: 1918 - ally - RAF S.E.5a -
Year: 1918 - ally - Sopwith Camel -
Year: 1918 - ally - Sopwith Snipe -
Year: 1918 - ally - Sopwith Snipe -
Year: 1918 - ally - SPAD XIII -



Year: 1916 - axis - Fokker E.III -
Year: 1916 - axis - Fokker E.IV -
Year: 1916 - axis - Halberstadt D.III -
Year: 1916 - axis - LFG Roland C.II -

Year: 1917 - axis - Albatros D.III -
Year: 1917 - axis - Albatros D.Va -
Year: 1917 - axis - Fokker DR.I -
Year: 1917 - axis - Halberstadt D.III -
Year: 1917 - axis - LFG Roland C.II -
Year: 1917 - axis - Pfalz D.IIIa -

Year: 1918 - axis - Albatros D.III -
Year: 1918 - axis - Albatros D.Va -
Year: 1918 - axis - Breguet BR 14 -
Year: 1918 - axis - Fokker D.VII -
Year: 1918 - axis - Fokker DR.I -
Year: 1918 - axis - Nieuport 23 -
Year: 1918 - axis - Pfalz D.IIIa -
Year: 1918 - axis - Siemens-Schuckert D.III -
Year: 1918 - axis - Siemens-Schuckert D.IV -
Year: 1918 - axis - UFAG C.I -

[Carl_Brisgamer]

Good evening Colonel,

I thought I would start things off with the Hanriot HD.1.

The Hanriot HD.1 was first flown in June 1916, and the French could have deployed it later that year except they chose the SPAD S.VII instead. The Hanriot did not commence operational service with the Italian Corpo Aeronautico Militare until January 1917, and the Belgians did not receive their HD.1s until August 1917.

This would place the Hanriot HD.1 as a 1917-18 aircraft only.

Source: World Aircraft Information Files Collection (1997, Bright Star Aerospace Publishing)

Cheers,

Carl.

[Carl_Brisgamer]

Colonel,

I can't see any other aircraft that require modification to their availability.

I take it you are just running availability by year and not differentiating between early and late availability ie Albatros D.III - January 1917, Albatros D.Va - October 1917.

Cheers,

Carl.

[Oberst Hajj]

Thanks for the info on the HD.1 Carl. You are correct that I am just doing it by year and not breaking it down to late and early periods. Too much coding and back-end work for the site to handle it that way.

[IRM]

First off, you've got the 1918 Nieuport 23 and Breguet in the wrong list:)

Typos aside, the Spad VII should be around for the whole war. The Siemens-Schuckert D1 from the Immelman Booster Pack should be available in 1917 only (it's a N17 copy that was mostly used on the Russian front). If you're allowing the Nieuport 16 from BB, it should be 1916-1917. Other than that, fine.

[sparty]

This is great thanks for throwing it up for public comment. Definitely handy if you're building a scenario.

[Oberst Hajj]

Thanks for the continued help IRM (in both threads).

sparty, I only play with minis, so I don't have all the cards. This makes it were I have to ask other to verify what planes actually have official cards produced for them. It's nice that my work and the work of those that help me can benefit others like you as a by product!

[Oberst Hajj]

Here is the updated list:


Year: 1916 - ally - Airco D.H. 2 -
Year: 1916 - ally - Morane-Saulnier Type N -
Year: 1916 - ally - Nieuport 11 -
Year: 1916 - ally - Nieuport 17 -
Year: 1916 - ally - Nieuport 21 -
Year: 1916 - ally - RAF R.E. 8 -
Year: 1916 - ally - SPAD VII -

Year: 1917 - ally - Airco D.H. 2 -
Year: 1917 - ally - Airco D.H. 4 -
Year: 1917 - ally - Breguet BR 14 -
Year: 1917 - ally - Hanriot HD.I -
Year: 1917 - ally - Nieuport 11 -
Year: 1917 - ally - Nieuport 17 -
Year: 1917 - ally - Nieuport 21 -
Year: 1917 - ally - Nieuport 23 -
Year: 1917 - ally - Pomilio PC -
Year: 1917 - ally - RAF R.E. 8 -
Year: 1917 - ally - RAF S.E.5a -
Year: 1917 - ally - Sopwith Camel -
Year: 1917 - ally - Sopwith Triplane -
Year: 1917 - ally - SPAD VII -
Year: 1917 - ally - SPAD XIII -

Year: 1918 - ally - Breguet BR 14 -
Year: 1918 - ally - Hanriot HD.I -
Year: 1918 - ally - Nieuport 23 -
Year: 1918 - ally - Pomilio PC -
Year: 1918 - ally - RAF R.E. 8 -
Year: 1918 - ally - RAF S.E.5a -
Year: 1918 - ally - Sopwith Camel -
Year: 1918 - ally - Sopwith Snipe -
Year: 1918 - ally - Sopwith Snipe -
Year: 1918 - ally - SPAD VII -
Year: 1918 - ally - SPAD XIII -



Year: 1916 - axis - Fokker E.III -
Year: 1916 - axis - Fokker E.IV -
Year: 1916 - axis - Halberstadt D.III -
Year: 1916 - axis - LFG Roland C.II -

Year: 1917 - axis - Albatros D.III -
Year: 1917 - axis - Albatros D.Va -
Year: 1917 - axis - Fokker DR.I -
Year: 1917 - axis - Halberstadt D.III -
Year: 1917 - axis - LFG Roland C.II -
Year: 1917 - axis - Pfalz D.IIIa -
Year: 1917 - axis - Siemens-Schuckert D1 -

Year: 1918 - axis - Albatros D.III -
Year: 1918 - axis - Albatros D.Va -
Year: 1918 - axis - Fokker D.VII -
Year: 1918 - axis - Fokker DR.I -
Year: 1918 - axis - Pfalz D.IIIa -
Year: 1918 - axis - Siemens-Schuckert D.III -
Year: 1918 - axis - Siemens-Schuckert D.IV -
Year: 1918 - axis - UFAG C.I -

[Volant Gun]

I want to know who the awards and decorations officer is. Colonel Hajj should receive a medal for this!!

Thanks for all the hard work Kieth!!

[Oberst Hajj]

LOL, that would be me as well. And I'm afraid it would be to much work to give my self an award!

[Pooh]

Col,

You're missing the DH-4.

Pooh

[Oberst Hajj]

It's there under Airco.

[Carl_Brisgamer]

It's there under Airco.

Colonel,

I think the poster may have meant the Airco D.H.4 seems to have been left out of the 1918 roster.

Cheers,

Carl.

[Oberst Hajj]

Oh, good catch!

[bumblie3]

Hi Col Hajj,

I came across this set of Aircraft Availability tables some time ago, but have recently rediscovered them. The link is

http://merlindex.free.fr/spip/IMG/pdf/chronologie.pdf

and you may think it worth checking out?

Cheers,

John.

[Oberst Hajj]

Thanks John, I've actually looked at have have that saved.

[bumblie3]

Should have known... Me teaching granny to suck eggs, again!:D

John.

[Roger Wilco]

Hey Col. You've put Snipes down twice.

[Jythier]

Are you taking into account captured aircraft cards, or just putting the planes on the actual sides they flew on?

[Oberst Hajj]

Good catch!

Jay, no captured cards.

[The Blue Baron]

N 16 from The balloon Buster set is still missing.

[The Blue Baron]

I will use this list for my campaign I will launch next month. One question: since you also prefer to use minis how do you deal with the year 1916? Just Nieuports and R.E.8s against Rolands?

[Oberst Hajj]

Yep, or if someone has a non WoW miniature that matches one of the official cards.

[The Blue Baron]

So, no longer Albatross D.III in 1916? That's what the KotA rules I downloaded state...

[Oberst Hajj]

The rules need to be updated to reflect the new changes. My latest research has shown the D.III showed up in 1917, not 1916.

[The Blue Baron]

That's true. But onlx two-seaters for one site? I don't know...

[Carl_Brisgamer]

So, no longer Albatross D.III in 1916? That's what the KotA rules I downloaded state...

Although it first flew in October 1916, the Albatros D.III did enter operational service until January 1917.

[Carl_Brisgamer]

Although it first flew in October 1916, the Albatros D.III did enter operational service until January 1917.

Having said that, the only real differences in performance at a Wings of War level between the Albatros D.II and the D.III is an inferior climb rate and lower operational ceiling. The D.II had a climb rate of 3m/s compared to the D.III's 4.5m/s. So for the Albatros D.II you could use the standard Albatros D.III stats J-A-14, with top altitude 10 instead of 11 and climb rate 5 instead of 4.

[Oberst Hajj]

For WW version of KotA, I am keeping with only official planes (those that have either a card, a mini or both). So technically, there 3 scouts on the Central Powers side during 1916. It's too bad none of them have minis out yet by Nexus.

[The Blue Baron]

Having said that, the only real differences in performance at a Wings of War level between the Albatros D.II and the D.III is an inferior climb rate and lower operational ceiling. The D.II had a climb rate of 3m/s compared to the D.III's 4.5m/s. So for the Albatros D.II you could use the standard Albatros D.III stats J-A-14, with top altitude 10 instead of 11 and climb rate 5 instead of 4.

Great idea, Carl! I'll do that. Thanks!