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    Quote Originally Posted by Boney10 View Post
    The Bristol with the rear Turret was the Bristol Beaufort, if it a Beaufighter then it should be a topedo version, or if I remember my airfix days some sort of gunbus or tankbuster. Unless of course someone else knows different. Im going back a few years now so any info is good eh
    It`s definately a Beaufighter, a later model with a larger observers blister for a rear-firing gun and a tailplane with noticable diheadral.

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    Now pushed back because of the seperation of FFG and Nexus.

    http://www.nexusgames.com/read.asp?id=3839

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    It may speed things up long term, if one of the 'middle men' has been removed.

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    It's nice to see things progressing but I'm honestly finding it hard to get over excited

    When I finally see a release date and the LGS has an order date I'll expend some energy

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    For me just announcing another delay in putting out the goods. Nexus are deeply dissapointing in their marketing, in my humble opinion

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    Dave!

    Be thankful you still have a distributor in the UK! What is another years wait!

    Rich

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    Dammit, just when I get my hopes up, they push it back. Bloody bloody hell...

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    Rich!!
    I'm sure some of us Limey's would be happy to ship them out to the colonies!! We can at least save you being gouged on S&H then (Me, Dom perhaps?)



    Cheers,

    Dave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackalWSU3 View Post
    Dammit, just when I get my hopes up, they push it back. Bloody bloody hell...
    Hey calm down think of youre blood presure.
    and read this from nexus
    I am a Wings of War player, where I can order Wings of War from?
    Nothing will change for our players, except that we will try to improve the availability of certain core items which have been really difficult to find in the last year. Please ask your local retailer to be in touch with our sales team (ngsales[at]nexusgames.com) or with his preferred distributor if he has trouble about how to order!
    And you can ask what is in Stock under the same Email addy.
    I Learned its no good Business Behavior to blame youre Partners for Shortage of the Stock. And after some Storys i heard it was only Half true.

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    FAQ talks about reprints for Series I but what is with Series II? FokkerD.VIIs are as rare as hens teeth

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    i Think they will do and with a little luck they are in Treasure Storage like other things

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    The Bombers have me excited I wonder what price point the miniatures will be at?

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    I'd guess probably $25-30 MSRP, if not a bit more, online maybe starting at $15-20.
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    I'd prefer the 15 dollar online price point for my wallet, but I am willing tp pay about $20 each. I will want at least two of each model, and three of each for one model for each side. I probaly go with three of the Dolittle B-25s and three of the more traditional looking He-111.

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    I should point out my estimates are "low-balling", this is optimistic figures based on what I'd consider what I've seen of 'em actually worth. I know that gaming pieces tend to see markup above their actual value at MSRP...
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    All I have to say is I will not be willing to pay the WWI Balloon Busters price. 50 bucks a pop is a major rip off IMHO. They look cool on the board, but don't do too much otherwise. The Bombers will be much of the same. Their guns are weak, they are going to be making bombing runs, so flying straight as an arrow, and fighters are going to be swarming around them either trying to knock them out of the sky or protect them. They will look amazing, but not 50 dollars amazing.

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    And Balloon Busters at least came with a fighter too, so you could buy a BB box and an AA ruler and have a solitaire Gasbag Whack almost right out of the box. I have trouble going above $50 for even a Deluxe Set, or $25 for a "basic card-game box"...
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    Anybody else disappointed in the He111 markings? The camo looks great, but it's marred by the three big white stripes. I'm sure it's historical, but not particularly common. Probably a squadron leader or something, but I couldn't find it in any of my references.

    I would have much preferred a generic BoB unit ID, as I like to buy several models and make flights. Those markings will be difficult to alter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy20 View Post
    Anybody else disappointed in the He111 markings? The camo looks great, but it's marred by the three big white stripes. I'm sure it's historical, but not particularly common. Probably a squadron leader or something, but I couldn't find it in any of my references.
    I have one in the three white stripes markings as well, this was a build and paint yourself deal from...the same folks who made the pre built & painted ones. I can't remember now, but it was the big bird series. They offered the same pre built & painted kits as a do-it-yourself kit. These first two I built and painted. The last one was the pre built, painted kit.






    Quote Originally Posted by Stormkahn View Post
    Rich!!
    I'm sure some of us Limey's would be happy to ship them out to the colonies!!



    Cheers,

    Dave.
    God Bless the Queen!

    Last edited by kaufschtick; 06-28-2011 at 22:49.

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    Don't look too hard to paint out... but IIRC a "Stab" ("Staff"; squadron HQ) flight woulda had 3-6 planes, all plausible to have those stripes. I'm rusty on Luftwaffe ID markings though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by P-51D View Post
    The Bombers will be much of the same. Their guns are weak, they are going to be making bombing runs, so flying straight as an arrow, and fighters are going to be swarming around them either trying to knock them out of the sky or protect them.



    Quote Originally Posted by P-51D View Post
    They will look amazing, but not 50 dollars amazing.
    A Men to that! The Sally's in the pics above, I picked up from E Bay for $3.33 USD apiece, with shipping it was around $18 USD; or less, if I remember that right.

    These B-17Fs, I got for $5 USD each, and I believe it was just a tad over $21 for the three, again; like the above Sally's; with shipping; delivered to my door.



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    Quote Originally Posted by richard m schwab View Post
    Dave!

    Be thankful you still have a distributor in the UK! What is another years wait!

    Rich
    My sentiments exactly!!!

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    Tommy I do not care what type of paint scheme they have, lets just do what we can to get them into the shops and we can discuss the paint scheme later.!

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    Sorry, but I strongly disagree. I'm a gamer, not a collector. I'm not about to buy models that I can't use just to encourage a company to make more models I can't use.

    To me, the draw of the official line was not having to paint them. With a nice "generic" paint scheme (like the Falkowski Spitfire or Bader Hurricane), all I have to do is replace the markings. Any touchup painting I do is hidden by the decals. That Heinkel will take more effort than I care to put in to put together a flight. They made the same mistake with the Wildcats, which kept me from buying any of the PTO miniatures (including the Japanese, which they did right, IMO). If I was interested in painting airplanes, I would have gone the 1:144 route.

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    Added some photos of official scans of the cards to the first post.

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    Card look good.

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    noob question here guys are the Rain of Destruction out or we still waiting for miracle

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    Not yet. This set has been pushed back until some time in 2012.

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    I'm struggling to find the reference now but my reading was WW1 Bombers and RoD would be out BEFORE 2012 not IN 2012.

    I'll keep searching...

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    Try http://www.microsofttranslator.com/B...e%26sid%3D5931. The translation is suspect but does imply 2 major releases before years end, can somebody actually speak Italian actually shed a little light perhaps?

    Cheers,

    Dave.

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    Hm On the Home Page of nexus stands in July more infos about Releases. And Auguust WW2 Serial 3 and September reprint of the WW1 deluxe set

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    Quote Originally Posted by richard m schwab View Post
    Groan!


    Rich
    Me too! But I am way behind at the model table, so that gives me some time to try to regroup and get back after it!

    With Wing Kits 6 & 7 having come out, the fire has re-lit in me to at least start buying planes again, and that, in turn has gotten me back to the modelling table.

    I like the Wing Kit 7 P-40Es so much better than the Flames of War one piece P-40Es, that I may do away with the FoW ones, and replace them with Wing Kit ones.

    I ordered US early war markings, as the Wing Kit P-40s come pre painted, but with only one upper wing insignia on them, which means they lend themselves nicely to being done as different versions than what they are advertised and sold as.

    The P-40Es that they advertise as Aleutian Tigers, I think I will buy another pair and do them up like Robert Scotts "Old Exterminator", as they come all green, with the one upper wing insignia easily covered by one of the earlier war ones with the red dot in the center.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kaufschtick View Post
    Me too! But I am way behind at the model table, so that gives me some time to try to regroup and get back after it!

    Wow Rob, your skills really are coming along if that's what's rolling of the end of your modelling table!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by kaufschtick View Post
    With Wing Kits 6 & 7 having come out, the fire has re-lit in me to at least start buying planes again, and that, in turn has gotten me back to the modelling table.

    I like the Wing Kit 7 P-40Es so much better than the Flames of War one piece P-40Es, that I may do away with the FoW ones, and replace them with Wing Kit ones.

    I ordered US early war markings, as the Wing Kit P-40s come pre painted, but with only one upper wing insignia on them, which means they lend themselves nicely to being done as different versions than what they are advertised and sold as.

    The P-40Es that they advertise as Aleutian Tigers, I think I will buy another pair and do them up like Robert Scotts "Old Exterminator", as they come all green, with the one upper wing insignia easily covered by one of the earlier war ones with the red dot in the center.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormkahn View Post
    Wow Rob, your skills really are coming along if that's what's rolling of the end of your modelling table!!!

    I wish! That P-40 taxi'd around, and then pulled right up to me at that show, I was in heaven!



















    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    Questions from ignorance: what are Wing Kits, and what scale are the FOW planes?
    Karl
    Well, I'm no expert either, but there is a company called F-Toys, I think it is, that makes these 1/144 scale, pre painted, and sometimes fairly already assembled (although the P-40s are a good bit of assembly required) WWII planes.

    I'm guessing that in today's economy, if you're going to make something like this, it needs to make money, or your company won't be around long.

    So, what F-Toys does, is they make what they call Wing Kit's, which they label Volume 1, volume 2 and so on. Each volume is usually three planes. They advertise them on the box, but you don't know what's in the box, kinda like baseball cards, to get you to buy more. Each plane will be advertised in at least two paint schemes (three mostly), but they also have another paint scheme for all the planes called a "special", that they don't advertise. So, you might get the A, B or C version of any one of the three planes shown on the box, or you may get one of the "special" paint schemes.

    On E-Bay, they take the mystery out of the buy, and tell you which plane you're getting, and the paint scheme. Usually the 'specials' go for a higher price.

    The models themselves are simply outstanding! Hyper detailed for 1/144 scale, options for wheels down or up, clear canopies, pre-painted canopies, and now they are giving decals to do different planes for some of them.

    The quality is very nearly on par with the Nexus WWI planes (and the same scale, BTW). They are easily converted to fit on WoW flight stands, with a little ingenuity.

    The Flames of War planes come three to a box, and are mostly a one piece mold? I've only gotten the P-40 from them, as they had the only P-40Es on the market, until now. The planes were all one hunk of plastic, wheels up only, the canopy was not seperate and not clear. The only seperate part was the spinner, and it had no props on it. It was just a hunk of metal, you glued it on, and whammo! Start painting.

    The detail in the mold was moderate, at best, although I've seen some advertised on E-Bay that had been painted by what looked like a professional, and were outstanding! I don't have that type of talent, and so mine came out just OK, but not what I was hoping for when I bought them.

    Here, I paid just over $43 USD (including sales tax) for a box of three P-40Es. You do the math, they were pricey for what you get, IMHO.

    I've averaged $7.50 & $3.00 shipping for the F-Toys P-40Es, delivered to my door! They are pre painted, have super decals, wheels down or up (your choice), props on the propeller, clear-pre painted canopy, and super detail. They smoke the FoW planes, no contest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy20 View Post
    Anybody else disappointed in the He111 markings? The camo looks great, but it's marred by the three big white stripes. I'm sure it's historical, but not particularly common. Probably a squadron leader or something, but I couldn't find it in any of my references.

    I would have much preferred a generic BoB unit ID, as I like to buy several models and make flights. Those markings will be difficult to alter.
    The white stripes are formation markings commonly carried during the BoB but not much used outside that period.
    For a BoB bomber flight, leave the white markings on and just change the plane`s individual ID letter.
    The reason you don`t see them mentioned much is that they were temporary markings changed on an almost daily basis and few records were kept of the patterns used.
    All we have now are a few photo`s of individual aircraft so there is plenty of scope for a bit of artistic license on these type markings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy20 View Post
    Sorry, but I strongly disagree. I'm a gamer, not a collector. I'm not about to buy models that I can't use just to encourage a company to make more models I can't use.

    To me, the draw of the official line was not having to paint them. With a nice "generic" paint scheme (like the Falkowski Spitfire or Bader Hurricane), all I have to do is replace the markings. Any touchup painting I do is hidden by the decals. That Heinkel will take more effort than I care to put in to put together a flight. They made the same mistake with the Wildcats, which kept me from buying any of the PTO miniatures (including the Japanese, which they did right, IMO). If I was interested in painting airplanes, I would have gone the 1:144 route.
    Sorry Tommy but the german paint Schema is Correct the white Stripes where Standart. And its easy to cover the stripes. if you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaufschtick View Post

    I've averaged $7.50 & $3.00 shipping for the F-Toys P-40Es, delivered to my door! They are pre painted, have super decals, wheels down or up (your choice), props on the propeller, clear-pre painted canopy, and super detail. They smoke the FoW planes, no contest.
    Ok, Wing Kits are F-toys. Them I know. Do you buy them E-Bay, or is there an on-line dealer. (Had a dealer at Origins, and some of us mostly cleaned him out of WW1, but I didn't look closely at his WW2).
    Karl
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    WOW can't wait but I'll have to Mitchell's, Beau fighters. Are there rules for night fighters? I haven't seen any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhary View Post
    Sorry Tommy but the german paint Schema is Correct the white Stripes where Standart. And its easy to cover the stripes. if you want.
    BZZZTTT!!! Wrong answer, but thanks for playing!

    (It helps to actually read the thread...)

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    Has anyone seen a list for the planes?

    P-61, B-26?

    I know B-25, B17,B-24, What else?

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    Were do I get this wounderful toys?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerRanger View Post
    Were do I get this wounderful toys?
    Nowhere, so far, Fredrik. We are all waiting to get them. It's an uncertain future, I suppose. Herr Oberst will inform us here as soon as the box is published.
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    This is the first time trying to attach a photo so hope it works. I was in the thread and saw comments about the He111. I hope this photo shows up. It is a command aircraft of the 3rd Group/Kampfgeschweder 53.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobP View Post
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    This is the first time trying to attach a photo so hope it works. I was in the thread and saw comments about the He111. I hope this photo shows up. It is a command aircraft of the 3rd Group/Kampfgeschweder 53.
    The irony being: From that angle it is impossible to see the stripes...

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    The "vertical" stripes on the side rudder, look like one big stripe.

    Have a look at kaufschtick's He111 models a few posts before.
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    True but you can read the A1+BA and the text says there are three stripes on the tail. I will see if I can do something to make the tail section stand out better. After all it is a 70 year old photo.

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    I found this plate of A1+BA. Three stripes on the tail, the photo may have been retouched or censored!


    Rich
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    This stripe thing wasn't a good thing.

    Remembers me on the flags on british commanding tanks in the desert war WW II, marking the first targets for the Acht-Acht.
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