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    I am glad they are coming. I have the money saved to buy them now.
    P.S. I hope this site does not turn into the War At Sea one.

  2. #152

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    In what sense, John? Not to call you out, but if you mean Forumini, as a Mod over there I'm always interested in how to make the site more accommodating... The "official" WOTC forum... well, I don't know why they even bother pretending about it.

  3. #153

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    I wasn't aware of the Forumini site. We have been discussing War at Sea on the SoG Anchorage site. I posted a link to it there.

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    I'd reccommend buying online from 12-7-Games and having them ship to the UK. It might be a LOT faster.

    http://12-7-games.com/

    (Or some other favorite US based seller.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick57 View Post
    I'd reccommend buying online from 12-7-Games and having them ship to the UK. It might be a LOT faster.

    http://12-7-games.com/

    (Or some other favorite US based seller.)
    Same for Australia and there cheeper too:

  6. #156

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    Bobby, speaking as a Mod over there, bring your Nomex underwear... we have some real trolls and Munchkins who know how to stay JUST short of Admin letting me break out the Majestic Banhammer of Bastarddom, I'm afraid.

  7. #157

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    Just placed my order for Series 5. Hope it comes soon.

  8. #158

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    Bobby, speaking as a Mod over there, bring your Nomex underwear... we have some real trolls and Munchkins who know how to stay JUST short of Admin letting me break out the Majestic Banhammer of Bastarddom, I'm afraid.
    First Rule Of Effective Trolling: Never use the word "you", or variants thereof -- "direct attacks" make it easy to justify bans.
    Second Rule of Effective Trolling: Never tell them what you just told them -- making a specific point gives a Mod a hook from which to take the Banhammer. (This is why anyone using the phrase "just sayin'" needs to be annihilated utterly; "just sayin'" is code for "I've made my point; but if I say specifically what my point is, I can be Banned with justification".)

    Take those two Rules, and enjoy hours of Banhammer-Free Trolling, with the bonus of knowing the Mods are hamstrung in their efforts to deal with you.... >;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by csadn View Post
    First Rule Of Effective Trolling: Never use the word "you", or variants thereof -- "direct attacks" make it easy to justify bans.
    Second Rule of Effective Trolling: Never tell them what you just told them -- making a specific point gives a Mod a hook from which to take the Banhammer. (This is why anyone using the phrase "just sayin'" needs to be annihilated utterly; "just sayin'" is code for "I've made my point; but if I say specifically what my point is, I can be Banned with justification".)

    Take those two Rules, and enjoy hours of Banhammer-Free Trolling, with the bonus of knowing the Mods are hamstrung in their efforts to deal with you.... >
    Do you know these rules from observation or experience? I would hate to think that an apparently upstanding Aerodrome member like yourself engages in Trolling elsewhere.
    (a bit touchy on this as we have an occurance on the FW Yahoo list right now).
    Karl

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    Haven't been to the Forumini site in some time. Have to visit again soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    Do you know these rules from observation or experience?
    Both, actually -- mainly observation of what gets a troll banhammered; but there have been occasions when a particularly-annoying individual has desperately needed to be trolled into a conniption fit (usually with a eye to getting said nuisance Banned himself; for ex., the racist who never openly uses racist language, but instead posts articles with an eye to "showing" certain groups as being more prone to criminal or depraved behavior, usually followed by that puke-inducing phrase: "Just sayin'"; no, you're not "just sayin'" -- you're trying to make a point you know would get you tossed if you said it openly, and assuming that if you never make a concluding statement, no one will be able to tag you for it).

    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    I would hate to think that an apparently upstanding Aerodrome member like yourself engages in Trolling elsewhere.
    "Upstanding"? Me? [Snort, Derisive, 1 ea.]

    I am in fact a Complete And Utter Bastard -- but only when I *want* to be; and thankfully this place has *never* given me cause to let rip with my Full-Throttle Bastardry. (What makes me a Particularly Effective CAUB is: Unlike the garden-variety troll, I know exactly how to avoid giving the Mods any rope with which to hang me -- see earlier remarks.) The one saving grace of Trolls: Like their namesakes, they are usually Not Very Bright, and can be easily disposed of.

    All that said: I usually have to be a CAUB in those places where the Mods are either ineffective, or outright ignoring the problem until it brings the forum to a creaming halt; neither of these is true here, so I have no need to be a CAUB. Let's all keep it that way, OK? :)

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    And this is the nice thing about having an Accredited BOFH on the Mod Team: "We do it, so you don't have to"... LOL

    Yeah, I just had to help chase a troll off another plane forum where I've been a longtime member... someone who I had specifically WARNED when inviting them over to not use a lot of the trolling antics they had openly bragged to me about using in IM.

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    I was able to get my Richthofen Fokker DR I from a UK seller when they were selling for $60+US on ebay.

    Does any country or region ever have to suffer in this global economy?

    Wasn't the original WW1 Deluxe Set never even released in the USA???? The Revised Deluxe Set took a while, but it evenually got here.

    It'll all get "here".
    Last edited by Rick57; 06-05-2012 at 18:50. Reason: grammar

  14. #164

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    Interesting though this is, can I just remind you chaps of the title of this thread, he said all innocently, because he never ever poached threads himself. It was always that Kyte fellow who did that. Just sayin!
    Rob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick57 View Post
    Wasn't the original WW1 Deluxe Set never even released in the USA????
    Yup -- but it didn't stop me getting one. :)

    I've had the same argument with LEGO Group's customer-service department a few times:

    Me: "I'm missing a part from kit #[n]."
    They: "Um -- that kit isn't even available in the US."
    Me: "Does the word 'Internet' ring any bells for you?"
    They: [*LONG* pause] "We'll have that part out to you in three to five business days, sir."

    COMPLETE. AND. UTTER. *BASTARD*. >;)

    Oh, and by the way, FO Kyte: [draws Vickers MG] [BLAM] WHAT [BLAM] DID [BLAM] I [BLAM] SAY [BLAM] A- [BLAM] -BOUT [BLAM] THAT [BLAM] PHRASE?[BLAM] :)

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    [Star Wars geekery] Sounds like some of my adventures trying to correct a design flaw in LEGO's UCS of Darth Vader's flagship Executor... the ship was always escorted by not less than five standard Imperial-II-class Star Destroyers, yet they only included one, and I'm still working on wangling the last few pieces I need to complete the other four.

    Just built this year's mini Star Destroyer release, and it sucks--the one bundled in with the SSD is head-and-shoulders superior. [/SW geekery]

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    Quote Originally Posted by csadn View Post

    Oh, and by the way, FO Kyte: [draws Vickers MG] [BLAM] WHAT [BLAM] DID [BLAM] I [BLAM] SAY [BLAM] A- [BLAM] -BOUT [BLAM] THAT [BLAM] PHRASE?[BLAM]
    I may have mentioned it once Chris, but I think I got away with it.
    Rob.

  18. #168

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    OK. Series 5 has a June 2012 release. Hmmmmmmmm. When is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by André View Post
    Talking about overlooked countries: Germany Being financially in a way better situation than most other countries and having 80+ millions people living here (close to 100 million if you add Switzerland and Austria)
    Careful, I think wars have been started that way! LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberst Hajj View Post
    Careful, I think wars have been started that way! LOL
    Are you referring to Germans feeling overlooked, or the rather ominous annexation of Austria and Switzerland?

    /Niclas

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    Niclas, that reminds me of a story about a Wehrmacht general visiting Switzerland...

    He asked the commander of the Swiss militia, since his command outnumbered them 10 to 1, what the Swiss would do if Germany decided to "annex"....

    The answer: "I and each of my men would shoot ten Germans and then go home for lunch." Maybe I'm just a sick puppy, but I thought it was an interesting (and plucky) reply...

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    Having driven through Switzerland in the 1980's while stationed in Germany. I don't think the Swiss would have had to work that hard. The mountain defenses throughout Switzerland are a wonder to see. Some go back as far as WWI or even earlier. I think the Germans would have called it quits about the time that corporals were leading the companies.

    James

  23. #173

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    They also have an even more powerful defense: "Unless you want your numbered accounts seized you'll leave us alone..." LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niclas View Post
    the rather ominous annexation of Austria and Switzerland?

    /Niclas
    Was what I was referring to... in jest of course.

  25. #175

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    Well 7 days left in June. Will Series 5 be here this month as stated? Crossed fingers but no matter when looking forward to these planes. I want to use these to teach the wife how to play so I can get more gaming in.

  26. #176

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    If one looks at Ares Games Upcoming Products page you will see that Series 5 is now set for July 2012.

    http://www.aresgames.eu/upcoming-products

  27. #177

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick57 View Post
    If one looks at Ares Games Upcoming Products page you will see that Series 5 is now set for July 2012.

    http://www.aresgames.eu/upcoming-products
    I'm not saying a word

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick57 View Post
    If one looks at Ares Games Upcoming Products page you will see that Series 5 is now set for July 2012.

    http://www.aresgames.eu/upcoming-products
    Looking on the bright side, I can now combine postage with the WW2 bombers and save $$$$$!

    Cup half full, silver lining on the cloud, that sort of thing

  29. #179

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boney10 View Post
    I'm not saying a word
    I'm saying three words: "Read a newspaper." Do that, and you'll see why they can't make a release date.

  30. #180

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    Hmmm, I've got "new releases" every day. They need better elves . . .

    Clipper in full production

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Denberger View Post
    Having driven through Switzerland in the 1980's while stationed in Germany. I don't think the Swiss would have had to work that hard. The mountain defenses throughout Switzerland are a wonder to see. Some go back as far as WWI or even earlier. I think the Germans would have called it quits about the time that corporals were leading the companies.

    James
    In 1912, Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany visited Switzerland. Observing Swiss army manoeuvres, Kaiser Wilhelm questioned what a ź million Swiss soldiers could do if invaded by ˝ million German soldiers. The famous Swiss response was: “then everyone of us will have to shoot twice!”

    Worthwhile remembering the Swiss are forbidden by international treaty from serving abroad EXCEPT as Papal Guards. The treaty is 500 years old, but no-one seems keen to change it. Best leave them to banking, cookoo clocks and chocolate because the alternative is pretty scary :-)
    Last edited by PilGrim; 06-23-2012 at 16:09.

  32. #182

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    Quote Originally Posted by csadn View Post
    I'm saying three words: "Read a newspaper." Do that, and you'll see why they can't make a release date.
    What on earth are you talking about? What do reading newspapers have to do with release dates slipping, again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boney10 View Post
    What on earth are you talking about? What do reading newspapers have to do with release dates slipping, again.
    Well, as a suggestion... euro is dropping... payment to china is in what currency now? If china doesn't get paid why ever should they deliver to anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PilGrim View Post
    Worthwhile remembering the Swiss are forbidden by international treaty from serving abroad EXCEPT as Papal Guards. The treaty is 500 years old, but no-one seems keen to change it. Best leave them to banking, cookoo clocks and chocolate because the alternative is pretty scary :-)
    With due respect, I think you are recounting some old myths. The only treaty that comes to mind 500 years ago was a pact between the Swiss Cantons, and the French Crown giving the French a monopoly on hiring troops in the Cantons. This was in force through at least the end of the 2nd Bourbon restoration (Charles XII I think) in the 1820s-30s. There may have been clauses in the treaties of Vienna declaring Swiss Neutrality, but otherwise The only thing I recall is repeated statements of the same throughout the years. Of course the Mountains and virtually 100% citizen army helps too.
    Karl

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    Quote Originally Posted by PilGrim View Post
    Best leave them to banking, cookoo clocks and chocolate because the alternative is pretty scary :-)
    Have a look at this!

    (it's in French, but the images speak for themselves!)

    Fascinating! No?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wargamer View Post
    Well, as a suggestion... euro is dropping... payment to china is in what currency now? If china doesn't get paid why ever should they deliver to anyone?
    Well I was under the impression from a different thread that the models were already on their way to the States. If that assumtion is wrong fair enough.
    But dont worry I will not use this thread again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boney10 View Post
    Well I was under the impression from a different thread that the models were already on their way to the States. If that assumtion is wrong fair enough.
    But dont worry I will not use this thread again

    Um, what is soooo bad about using this thread. It is supposed to be about Series 5. Isn't it?

    Its not about the Swiss or Charles XII or funny videos.

    The way I see it, if a product isn't released on time, there has to be a reason. Its not like it is an offense to anyone's manhood or anything like that. A later release is really no big deal. Announce it and get on with living life. Sure, I'd like them now, but I (and so can everyone else) wait.

    When the planes are released, we'll all be REAL happy.

    I for one am VERY grateful for my hobby. Everything about it. The friends I've made. The history I've learned. I am grateful for what has been released so far and I look forward towards what will be released -whenever it is.

    Cheers,
    Rick

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    No Rick,And it really matters not a jot to me either except for one very small matter.

    Each day that goes by more and more people that we may have recruited at clubs, shows etc, are losing interest, and may be lost to other games systems which are readily available. Up the sharp end keeping having to make excuses for non arrival of products is getting a bit thin.
    I can only imagine what the stockists are feeling like, but none of this is good news when it comes to Ares' attempt to convince the public that it had put the failures of Nexus to bed.
    Rob.

  41. #191

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    I know what you mean. We need the rules pack and the new Series 5 minis to arrive together and soon if we are going to be able to demo a package that can attract new players.

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    Look at it this way. July is just 6 day away. Not that long. Keep a happy face. I went through this with WWII Series 3 so now have to keep a zen mode about the releases.

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    I can't say I am not disappointed. It would be nice if Ares would give a reason for the delay. Last I had heard was that they were shipping to distributors.

    I also realise that the bombers special packs' release was delayed too. It happens. I imagine running a global corporation is tricky at the best of times.

    (At least I live in the USA where we seem to get our releases a month before everyone else! Oh, did I type that out loud?)

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    ok im convinced that the cows also are anti personel mines

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    Hookay, next time try a better brand?
    Quote Originally Posted by sirosis o liver View Post
    ok im convinced that the cows also are anti personel mines

  47. #197

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    Patience is a virtue I suppose, but putting a demo on where the rules are OOP (OK you can download them) the damage cards are OOP, and the models are OOP EXCEPT the bombers which until last week were only available by importing from the USA, can be (I assume) a bit of an issue.

    We need to get the rules pack and something to play with so that the punter can walk away from the game table and pick stuff off the shop shelf to take home. Until then it's frustrating to say the least

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobP View Post
    Look at it this way. July is just 6 day away. Not that long. Keep a happy face. I went through this with WWII Series 3 so now have to keep a zen mode about the releases.
    And that number is getting smaller every day.

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    True, but it's not as though it's 1st July theyre talking about - it could easily be 31st!

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    Well, I'm in the same 'leaky' boat. I've pre-ordered $100 (US) from 12-7 Games some the bombers and Series 5 mini's, and there are only 2 June days left! Based on this and ARES, my pre-ordering days are over, fin, und fertig!

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