Squadron / Jasta decal sets from Wings of War Aerodrome

**Oberst Hajj** · 11-18-2009 02:57

I have found a decal artist and producer that is willing to work with me on making Squadron / Jasta decal sheets. I would like to know if you would be interested in being able to purchase decals from the Wings of War Aerodrome web site. Here are some of the details...

I am currently looking at the squadron sheets have all decals need to paint up 4 aircraft from scratch from the selected squadron. The 4 aircraft chosen would typically be the leading aces and/or the most colorful/unique paint jobs out there. I'm pretty sure I can make these available for US$9.99 plus shipping.

The exception to this would be planes that need lozenge pattern decals for the wings. For those sets, would you rather I cut back the number of planes a sheet can do, most likely to 2 planes, or would you rather have the 4 planes, but possibly at a higher cost (most likely around US$14.99 plus shipping)?

If you have any questions or suggestions, please post them here.

Here is the first squadron that would be offered, RNAS - Squadron 9

The decal set would look basically like this...

**aarondpjames** · 11-18-2009 06:51

I really like the idea, i just done envy who ever has to do all the work to produce the goods.

There are other Decal suppliers out there, such as Dom from Doms Decals. If you did something different from what they produce, you may just find a decent market that you can tap into.

I take it we would buy them directly through the site? If so, anychance it could take paypal payments?

**bsmith13** · 11-18-2009 06:55

This would be awesome!

**Seiseki** · 11-18-2009 10:35

I guess the shipping would be really cheap, so yeah I'd buy it for sure!

**Greywolf** · 11-18-2009 11:41

$9.99USD [$13.41NZD] isn't to bad a price it would postage that would concern me the most.

I've been stung quite bad with postage cost before not very nice. [Yes I know I live on the other side of the world and all that.] its really frustrating to find something I want to buy, but postage cost double more then the item is worth.

Only way around that I guess would be to collect all of the sales for NZ and then ship them out to everyone. *shrug*

Keep me posted on how this turns out Keith.

Cheers
GW

**usmc1855** · 11-18-2009 18:20

Definitely a good idea. I hope it happens. And for the planes that require lozenge pattern decals for the wings. I'd gladly pay the extra few dollars.

**Zeppelin** · 11-18-2009 19:06

Sounds good to me.

**Oberst Hajj** · 11-19-2009 02:48

Yes, you would buy theme right here through the site. I would accept paypal as well.

GW, there could be some shipping options for you that might help with this problem. We can cross that bridge when/if we come to it.

**Greywolf** · 11-19-2009 02:53

Originally Posted by Col. Hajj

Yes, you would buy theme right here through the site. I would accept paypal as well.

GW, there could be some shipping options for you that might help with this problem. We can cross that bridge when/if we come to it.

that's good. keep me apprised on the out come. I'll support it as best I can.

Cheers
GW

**The Blue Baron** · 11-19-2009 05:10

Originally Posted by Col. Hajj

Yes, you would buy theme right here through the site. I would accept paypal as well.

As well as what?

I like the idea allthough I am not sure if I would by any because I would have to repaint 4 planes to use them...

**Oberst Hajj** · 11-19-2009 09:01

I would have to look into other payment options, so paypal would not be the only method. I've got a few other "products" in mind for the site as well.

**CappyTom** · 11-22-2009 02:55

Its a great idea. So will we be going to the classifies to purchase these decals or will there be another link? Look forward to showing to the guys I fly with.
Tom

**IRM** · 11-22-2009 10:34

I think squadron decal sets are a great idea, I'm sure plenty of players would jump at the chance to customise their planes with them since Dom only does a handful of squadron/plane types at present. Four planes per sheet should be more than enough for your average player I'd expect. You could always release additional designs for each squadron later if enough players wanted them. I'd suggest only doing two planes per sheet for designs that need hex camo wings or similar to keep the prices all the same (and minimise the decal sheet size for posting) as long as you did a second sheet with two other schemes for that squadron.

Might be worth taking votes on which squadron or ace players wanted released.

**Oberst Hajj** · 11-22-2009 19:07

I would be adding a "store front" to the site if/when we offer decals. I'll have to work out the details on the ones with wing camo.

**Greywolf** · 11-22-2009 19:54

as long as I can get Jasta 11 & 23b I'll be happy

Cheers
GW

**Roger Wilco** · 11-23-2009 14:10

Hi Keith I think its an excellent idea too! If you need distribution help in the Australia/New Zealand/Asia locality so as to keep the postage prices down, just let me know as I'm more than happy to lend a hand. We can discuss further via PM if you like.
TD

**Greywolf** · 11-23-2009 14:16

Originally Posted by Roger Wilco

Hi Keith I think its an excellent idea too! If you need distribution help in the Australia/New Zealand/Asia locality so as to keep the postage prices down, just let me know as I'm more than happy to lend a hand. We can discuss further via PM if you like.
TD

I can take care of the NZ sector as well through Greyknight Miniatures. msg me as well if you need help.

Cheers
GW

**Pseudotheist** · 12-01-2009 06:03

Originally Posted by aarondpjames

There are other Decal suppliers out there, such as Dom from Doms Decals. If you did something different from what they produce, you may just find a decent market that you can tap into.

And frankly this sort of competition might convince Dom that raising prices is a serious option to increase the commercial viability of his line of decals.

**Pseudotheist** · 12-05-2009 10:39

The more I think about this, the more I'm inclined to say that I really WANT at least 6 planes for a set of decals, not because I need to have 6 planes, but because I enjoy selection about which planes I want to build from each set. I haven't done more than half of any of Dom's sets, but I appreciated having the options available to choose from (and sometimes using the extras elsewhere). So, I'd still buy a set of 4 at $10, but I'd be a lot happier with 6 @ $10, even though I probably wouldn't use more than 4.

**Oberst Hajj** · 12-05-2009 15:25

I'm running into a few issues with offering more then 4 planes per sheet. The first is just simply space. There are only so many things I can fit on the decal sheet. I really want to offer full sets, meaning that I supply all the decals need to complete each plane from a primer-ed state.

Another issue is cost. While Dom does all of his own design and printing, I have to out source it. The draw back is the added cost to getting them made. The benefits are that I can control which ones are made and how often new sets come out (within reason for production times). I could increase the number of planes to 6 or 8 per sheet, but that would raise the price to about $19.99 a sheet. While it is still the same price per plane, the price point is way to high for most people to buy into.

The other issue is finding enough detailed drawings of more then 4 aircraft from a single Squadron. I'm not over excited about a decal sheet that just gives you a bunch of numbers and roundels. I'd much rather produce decals that give colorful and interesting planes to have on the table.

**CappyTom** · 12-05-2009 17:25

So is there an eta on the decals? Your getting me hungry.

Tom

**Oberst Hajj** · 12-05-2009 22:46

No real ETA yet. We are still having issues getting the red X of the Muryel plane to come out just right. It's getting close though!

**Pseudotheist** · 12-06-2009 10:39

Well, taking all that into consideration, I'd rather have 4 @ $9 than 8 @ $19

**The Blue Baron** · 12-07-2009 01:53

Originally Posted by Pseudotheist

Well, taking all that into consideration, I'd rather have 4 @ $9 than 8 @ $19

Yes, I also would prefer 4 @ 9 $.

**Greywolf** · 12-07-2009 02:21

Originally Posted by The Blue Baron

Yes, I also would prefer 4 @ 9 $.

ditto

Cheers
GW

**ste_marthe** · 12-07-2009 02:37

WOW! This is a great idea!

**Oberst Hajj** · 12-07-2009 06:57

Another thing I am looking at offering, is a sheet of general markings so people can do their own repaints as well.

**Scoop** · 12-07-2009 07:31

That's a good idea! Thumps up.

**usmc1855** · 12-07-2009 16:12

Originally Posted by Col. Hajj

Another thing I am looking at offering, is a sheet of general markings so people can do their own repaints as well.

I'd buy into those as well!

**pflanzer** · 12-14-2009 21:52

Originally Posted by Col. Hajj

Another thing I am looking at offering, is a sheet of general markings so people can do their own repaints as well.

Good quality generic markings is a good idea. I would buy into them. Just so I could do what I wanted to with a repaint. You need to do all the major powers to begin with.
Tony

**Oberst Hajj** · 12-15-2009 23:11

My thoughts on the generic markings is to put out a sheet that covers markings from early to late war for one country and then another one for a different country. The Germans changed markings quite often, so they would have a bunch of different markings on their sheet, while the US or Brits would have fewer different markings, but more of the ones they do have... if that makes sense.

**usmc1855** · 12-20-2009 17:05

The generic country markings are a good idea, but also do a sheet of numerals to differentiate planes in the same squadron with identical paint jobs.

**The Blue Baron** · 01-13-2010 00:26

Any idea when you will be able to start selling your decals, Keith?

**Oberst Hajj** · 01-13-2010 00:44

I just received another edit on them last night. I've got to verify how they fit and see if they need more adjustments. I will say, they are getting closer!

As an additional note, I think for future decal releases, I will make up decals to go with one of the planes/squadrons that is already out in a Wings of War mini. That would give people at least 5 planes from a single squadron to fly with.

**usmc1855** · 01-13-2010 18:04

Originally Posted by Col. Hajj

........As an additional note, I think for future decal releases, I will make up decals to go with one of the planes/squadrons that is already out in a Wings of War mini. That would give people at least 5 planes from a single squadron to fly with.

Great idea! I'm anxious to see the final products.

wjhupp · 01-13-2010 19:45

I'm in. I was just going to start trying to find some decals.

**Scoop** · 01-14-2010 03:00

I would definitely need some for the stukas - I don't really want to buy the three modells, just the German one.

iceman · 01-31-2010 17:23

Yes these do sound like a good idea, however I think it best if you do Squadron/Jastas that compliment Doms Decals rather than compete against them. RNAS Sqn 9 would be really interesting. Down side would be the postage as well as the lousy exchange rate at the moment!

**Roger Wilco** · 01-31-2010 18:38

I can't wait for these decals to come out, I am really looking forward to getting hold of them. Just as a side, you will also need to make up a card for each plane too!

I'd like to see some decals of some Aces or other famous pilots aircraft not just squadron sets. You could have them as specific aircraft, a Camel set, a Dr.1 set a Spad set, etc, etc.

**Scoop** · 02-01-2010 03:14

Nexus should start producing that stuff as well and pack them into the boxes with the planes.

**Oberst Hajj** · 02-01-2010 06:56

I just got what I hope will be the next to last draft artwork for these. They are getting really close!

a_leckter · 02-03-2010 04:18

Great initiative. Sure will be a lot of people interested in create their own squadrons.
Thank you.

**sparty** · 02-06-2010 19:22

Originally Posted by usmc1855

The generic country markings are a good idea, but also do a sheet of numerals to differentiate planes in the same squadron with identical paint jobs.

This seems like it'd be a must have item. Probably even 2 of each number to be fair since you may have a 1 and a 12 or something like that

**Volant Gun** · 02-06-2010 21:49

Count me in. I can't wait!

**Kodiak** · 02-12-2010 17:55

Don't forget a set for Jasta 18.

**Von Rotherham** · 02-25-2010 10:08

I'd be interested in a couple of sets as I want to start doing a few repaints myself.

**Kodiak** · 02-25-2010 15:29

By the way, how many planes for the different major powers are;

in a flight
in a squadron (jasta)?
in a group (jagdstaffel)?
in a wing

on paper? Thanks.

Bill

**Lowell Throttle** · 02-25-2010 15:29

Yes interested....Germans too.....and Lozenge decals perhaps?

Also: What would be the chances we can get undecorated WoW miniatures?

**Kodiak** · 02-25-2010 15:41

I vote for undecorated minis too.

**Pseudotheist** · 02-26-2010 08:00

Originally Posted by Lowell Throttle

Yes interested....Germans too.....and Lozenge decals perhaps?

Also: What would be the chances we can get undecorated WoW miniatures?

Lozenge decals are already available at Reviresco, under the Aircraft kits in their store.

And I'd rather they stick to historical paint jobs; you can always "undecorate" them yourself. basically, I don't see it being a real money maker for them.