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    Hi there,

    I'm finally going to repaint my first model, so I'm looking for some handy tips. Are there any most important details I have to consider, like removing the decals on the model first (how, anyway?) or just paint over them?

    Any help would be most welcome.

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    If you repaint a biplane, get off carefully the upper wing first.

    Use a primer and you do not neet to scratch off the decals. (I use "white primer" from Vallejo)

    Use a water based decal fix for the decals. That does not ruin your decals like a final varnish coat. (I have one from Vallejo, too)
    Voilà le soleil d'Austerlitz!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marechallannes View Post
    If you repaint a biplane, get off carefully the upper wing first.

    Use a primer and you do not neet to scratch off the decals. (I use "white primer" from Vallejo)

    Use a water based decal fix for the decals. That does not ruin your decals like a final varnish coat. (I have one from Vallejo, too)
    Agreed


    I'm learning to fly, but I ain't got wings
    Coming down is the hardest thing

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    Use primer, paint over decals. Got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nachtschwärmer View Post
    Hi there, I'm finally going to repaint my first model, so I'm looking for some handy tips. Are there any most important details I have to consider, like removing the decals on the model first (how, anyway?) or just paint over them?
    Any help would be most welcome.
    You can use any method that suits you and/or the model.
    On some earlier (nexus) models you can scrape off the decals fairly easily with an old model knife - some are easier than others.
    You can just as easily paint over them if the whole wing is being done and plant the replacements straight over the site of the old - this you may have to do with some of the latest models as the whole wing is generally a decal these days.
    Depending how much handling the model has had it may be helpful it wash the model to remove any grease from the handling of it before applying paint. An primer coat is useful sometimes, as is removing the top wing but not always necessary depending on the paint being used and the surface it's going on. What model are you repainting first ?

    "He is wise who watches"

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    I want to repaint a Nexus Grumman F4F Wildcat/Martlet III (Black) into the second Martlet V 'D' from the front:

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    Can't get enough of the Wildcat (love this stout fighter!) these days and now I'm intrigued to play one with Invasion Stripes (and with that hopefully to kick off a BOLT ACTION crossover play with some friends of mine).

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    Nice idea, Dennis.

    You could use some Tamiya masking tape to get clear stripes, too!
    Voilà le soleil d'Austerlitz!

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    Another great tip. Thanks.

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    I would paint the whole "block" surface with white colour over the existing declas, bordering it with the masking tape from both sides. It may be difficult, for the surface is curved and the tape does not form a straight line, but after few trials you could make it.
    Airbrush? Great! Spraying would be a piece of cake. Brush? Argh... harder, use a thicker paint.
    Then go the black stripes...
    I would not use the masking tape. Too fiddly and annoying.
    Two options:
    1) free hand - may be fine, but really hard to get the straight lines,
    2) use a masking FLUID and aply it gently with a brush over the white field, then paint the black stripes on the leftover white.

    Done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nachtschwärmer View Post
    Another great tip. Thanks.
    And do not fly to low


    I'm learning to fly, but I ain't got wings
    Coming down is the hardest thing

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    Stencil the wings with tape always works for me .


    I'm learning to fly, but I ain't got wings
    Coming down is the hardest thing

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    A few months ago I did a thread on "How to custom paint the Fokker Dr.1"
    The subject is different, but you might gain some ideas or tips from there.

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    An astonishing how-to you got there, Brian. This will help a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightbomber View Post
    2) use a masking FLUID and aply it gently with a brush over the white field, then paint the black stripes on the leftover white.
    A masking fluid? Never heard about it. Got to look this up.

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    But how to get clear lines with a masking fluid???

    You can cut the masking tape with scissors to get clear lines, but I can't imagine a fluid for stripes.
    Voilà le soleil d'Austerlitz!

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    http://www.micromark.com/Web%20Store.../80923_R-1.jpg

    Apply this high quality masking film where you don't want paint to stick. Works especially well in small crevices where masking tape is impossible to apply. Paint won't bleed through or seep under edges. Designs can be drawn on dried mask with a felt tip pen. To get super-sharp paint separation, score with a hobby blade and peel off areas to be painted. Can be sprayed or brushed on. Dries in 1 to 2 hours. Thins and cleans-up with water. 8 fl. oz. bottle. This stuff works great! (Not for use on porous materials.)

    Here is something I saw about the Masking Liquid.

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    http://www.micromark.com/Web%20Store.../80806_R-1.jpg


    Parafilm M...the Conformable, Stretchable Masking Material

    Parafilm M cuts easily and conforms to complex shapes and fine details. It produces sharp paint separation without bleed-under, peels off easily, won't pull off decals and metallic paints, and doesn't leave an adhesive residue. Ideal for camouflaging aircraft and military models, creating custom car paint schemes and detailing intricate model parts. Complete instructions included. 2 inch wide x 25 foot long roll.

    Another product they have.
    Last edited by BobP; 05-25-2017 at 12:27.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marechallannes View Post
    But how to get clear lines with a masking fluid???

    You can cut the masking tape with scissors to get clear lines, but I can't imagine a fluid for stripes.
    A very useful liquid I always use to mask clear canopies. You apply it with a brush, it quickly turns to a gum-like film and after painting/spraying it is easily removed with a thumb! It is truly magic! Look at my Hayabusa below. The silver overpaint was partially covered with the masking fluid, sprayed with green and then pleasantly removed with a finger.
    It would be quite hard to obtain such an effect without the magic/masking fluid.

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    That's right.

    But Invasion stripes would be very challenging.
    Voilà le soleil d'Austerlitz!

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    You could just cut the stripes from a sheet of white decal paper.

    Ian

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    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

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    Ah yes, found those too. But they have to be cut in the correct shape. I don't think I can do this.



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