1915 Villar Perosa Machine gun.

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 12-29-2016 12:15

One for the Mechanisms buffs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAsH0fVAoxc

Rob.

**Naharaht** · 12-31-2016 10:54

That is another interesting 'find', Rob.

It could mean that an early Italian two-seater should have an A rating for its observer's gun position and maybe a special rule about reloading.

**Mike George** · 12-31-2016 12:09

Very Nice Gun it would be a kick to fire it.

**flash** · 12-31-2016 14:04

Originally Posted by Naharaht

That is another interesting 'find', Rob.

It could mean that an early Italian two-seater should have an A rating for its observer's gun position and maybe a special rule about reloading.

With that 12-1500rpm rof and the 25rnd mags I'd give it 1 phase of A gun fire , or 2 of B but only 1 card of either and only at short range as its a SMG, reloads as normal.
Interesting piece though.

**csadn** · 12-31-2016 15:17

Originally Posted by Naharaht

That is another interesting 'find', Rob.

It could mean that an early Italian two-seater should have an A rating for its observer's gun position and maybe a special rule about reloading.

It's firing 9mm pistol ammo -- that counters the RoF advantage. Also, the pistol round's accuracy falls off well before a rifle-calibre round, so there'd be a range problem as well.

**gully_raker** · 12-31-2016 16:19

Interesting find Rob.
I had not heard of or seen one of those.

**Jager** · 01-02-2017 04:44

Originally Posted by flash

With that 12-1500rpm rof and the 25rnd mags I'd give it 1 phase of A gun fire , or 2 of B but only 1 card of either and only at short range as its a SMG, reloads as normal.
Interesting piece though.

Given the pistol ammo, even with two barrels and a good RoF, I'd only rate it as a B gun. an alternative might be a single A at short range, and a single B at long.
Karl

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 01-02-2017 07:00

That sounds like a good compromise to me Karl. We don't want it too powerful for its contemporaries.
Rob.

**flash** · 01-02-2017 09:35

Originally Posted by Jager

Given the pistol ammo, even with two barrels and a good RoF, I'd only rate it as a B gun. an alternative might be a single A at short range, and a single B at long.
Karl

I gave it a single burst of A at short range because, fired as a pair, it's putting 50 rounds downrange in 1 second - fired individually it's putting out 25 rds in 1 second so I give that a B x 2 bursts. For comparison a Lewis puts out about 10 rnds per second, a MG14 a few more than that. I didn't give it a long range capability at all as it's a pistol round.
As it's up against pretty frail machines in 1915 that seems proportionate & different to the usual load out - a short sharp shock might keep them at bay.