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    Had to leave off most aircraft that had 5 or less built. Enjoy.
    A.E.G. B.I--??
    A.E.G. C.I--? 658 AEG two-seaters of all types were produced
    A.E.G. C.II--small numbers
    A.E.G. C.IV--400
    A.E.G. G.II--17
    A.E.G. G.IV--542 includung I, II, III, IVK 4
    A.E.G. J.I--609 including II
    Ago C.I---64
    Ago C.II--15
    Ago C.IV--<100 of the 260 ordered
    Albatros B.II--4,900 including IIa, used as trainers
    Albatros C.I--500 including Ib trainer
    Albatros C.III--796
    Albatros C.V--424 V/16 and V/17
    Albatros C.VI--small numbers
    Albatros C.VII--400
    Albatros C.X--400
    Albatros C.XII--330
    Albatros D.I--50
    Albatros D.II--275
    Albatros D.III--1,346
    Albatros D.V--900
    Albatros D.Va--1612
    Albatros G.III--small numbers
    Albatros J.I--240
    Albatros L.3--6
    Albatros W 4--118
    Albatros W.5--5
    Aviatik B.II--small numbers
    Aviatik C.I/III--500
    Aviatik C.II--43
    Brandenburg D--12
    Brandenburg KDW--58
    Brandenburg NW--32
    Brandenburg GNW--16
    Brandenburg GW--26
    Brandenburg CC --26
    Brandenburg FB 1915 --6
    Brandenburg W-- 27
    Brandenburg W12-- 146
    Brandenburg W19-- 55
    Brandenburg W29-- 78
    Brandenburg W33-- 26
    Daimler D.I - - 6
    D.F.W. B.I-- most numerous B class
    D.F.W. C.V -- 3,250 including Av C.VI
    D.F.W. R.II-- 2 of the 6 ordered
    Euler B.III -- 60
    Euler C.I -- 29
    Euler D.I -- few
    Euler D.II -- 30
    Fokker D.I -- 144
    Fokker D.II-- 177
    Fokker D.III-- 210
    Fokker D.IV-- 44
    Fokker D.V -- 216
    Fokker Dr.I-- 320
    Fokker D.VI-- 59
    Fokker D.VII-- 3,300
    Fokker D.VIII-- 289 most without engines
    Fokker E.I -- 54
    Fokker E.II -- 49
    Fokker E.III -- 249
    Fokker E.IV -- 49
    Fokker M7 -- 20
    Fokker M 16 Z -- 30
    Friedrichshafen G.II-- 35
    Friedrichshafen G.III -- 331
    Friedrichshafen 33-- 135
    Friedrichshafen FF 29-- 30+
    Friedrichshafen FF 39 -- 14
    Friedrichshafen FF 41 -- 9
    Friedrichshafen FF 49b-- 25
    Friedrichshafen FF 49c-- 235
    Gotha G.I-- 20
    Gotha G.II -- 11
    Gotha G.III-- 25
    Gotha G.V -- 205
    Gotha G.Va-- 25
    Gotha G.Vb-- 80
    Gotha G.VII-- 20
    Gotha W.D. 2-- 11
    Gotha W.D. 7 -- 8
    Gotha W.D. 11 -- 13
    Gotha W.D. 14 -- 69
    Gotha W.D. 27 -- 3 colossal
    Halberstadt Cl.II --703
    Halberstadt Cl.IV -- 250
    Halberstadt C.V -- 200
    Halberstadt D.I -- 2
    Halberstadt D.II -- 95
    Halberstadt D.III-- 50
    Halberstadt D.IV -- 3
    Halberstadt D.V -- 57 31 for Turkey
    Hannover Cl.II -- 439
    Hannover Cl.III/a-- 667
    Hannover C.V -- 50 none entered service
    Hanuschke E.I -- 6
    Junkers D.I -- 41
    Junkers J.II -- 6
    Junkers J.10 (CL 1)-- 47
    L.F.G. Roland C.II-- 295 incl a
    L.F.G. Roland D.I-- 25
    L.F.G. Roland D.II-- 275
    L.F.G. Roland D.VIa/b-- 160
    Lubeck-Travemunde F2-- 11
    Lubeck-Travemunde F4-- 34
    L.V.G. B.I/II/III -- 600
    L.V.G. C.II -- 200
    L.V.G. C.IV-- few made 1st daylight bombing raid on London
    L.V.G. C.V -- 3.250
    L.V.G. C.VI-- 1,100
    Oertz W.4 -- 12
    Pfalz D.III -- 260
    Pfalz D.IIIa-- 750
    Pfalz Dr.I -- 10
    Pfalz D.VIII-- 40
    Pfalz D.XII -- 800
    Pfalz D.XIV-- 50 ordered
    Pfalz D.XV -- 50-70 too late for service perhaps 180
    Pfalz E.I -- 45
    Pfalz E.II -- 130
    Pfalz E.IV -- 46
    Pfalz E.VI -- 20
    Rumpler B.I-- 200
    Rumpler Ru 4B11-- 18
    Rumpler Ru 4B12-- 30
    Rumpler C.I -- 2,362 incl trainers
    Rumpler C.III -- 42
    Rumpler C.IV -- 2,200
    Rumpler C.V -- 20
    Rumpler C.VII -- 80 trainer
    Rumpler C.IX -- 20
    Rumpler D.I -- 22
    Rumpler G.I -- 58
    Rumpler G.III -- 20
    Rumpler 6B -- 88
    Sablatnig SF.2 -- 26
    Sablatnig SF.5 -- 101
    Sablatnig SF.8 -- 140 ordered unknown delivered
    Siemens-Schuckert D.I-- 95
    Siemens-Schuckert D.III-- 50
    Siemens-Schuckert D.IV-- 123
    Siemens-Schuckert E.I -- 20
    Siemens-Schuckert R -- 7 a series of aircraft
    Zepplin C.II -- 20
    Zeppelin Staaken R.VI-- 18
    Zeppelin Staaken R.XIV -- 3
    Zeppelin Staaken seaplane-- 3 Type 1803

    As with all 100 year WW1 data, it is subjective. If anyone has anything to add please do so.
    Last edited by john snelling; 10-28-2016 at 20:35.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john snelling View Post
    Zepplin Staaken R.IV-- 18
    I thought this was the R.VI?

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    Can I just add......................

    what a cracking resource!

    Very many thanks, old chap!
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken at Sunrise View Post
    I thought this was the R.VI?
    Thanks for catching that typo.

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    Another fantastic resource John.
    Many Thanks!

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    Surprised to see so few of certain "iconic aircraft". especially the Dr.1


    And maybe not "iconic" but really nice looking Siemans-Schuckert D.III

    Ares needs to look at this list and fill in the holes appropriately:
    (are you sure that all of these were the same or was the total 3250 across the brands ?)
    D.F.W. C.V -- 3,250
    Halberstadt C.V -- 3,250
    L.V.G. C.V -- 3.250

    Pflaz D.XII -- 800




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    Very interesting John and some surprises in there.
    Couple of other typo's spotted - Rumbler 6b , Diamler D.I, Zepplin should be Zeppelin & Siemans should be Siemens

    "He is wise who watches"

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    i wonder if theres any in there that either tim or dave DONT own more examples than actually existed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by milcoll73 View Post
    i wonder if theres any in there that either tim or dave DONT own more examples than actually existed?
    Cheeky!

    (I'll have a detailed look this weekend............................)
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumptonian View Post
    Surprised to see so few of certain "iconic aircraft". especially the Dr.1


    And maybe not "iconic" but really nice looking Siemans-Schuckert D.III

    Ares needs to look at this list and fill in the holes appropriately:
    (are you sure that all of these were the same or was the total 3250 across the brands ?)
    D.F.W. C.V -- 3,250
    Halberstadt C.V -- 3,250
    L.V.G. C.V -- 3.250

    Pflaz D.XII -- 800



    Looking into your post. Sometimes you need to use other eyes to see clearly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
    Very interesting John and some surprises in there.
    Couple of other typo's spotted - Rumbler 6b , Diamler D.I, Zepplin should be Zeppelin & Siemans should be Siemens
    Thanks, fixed
    my darn fingers can't read

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    As stated earlier, a great resource. Any possibility that dates of service might be added at a later date?
    Many thanks for a wonderfully useful list Germany's planes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redcoon2 View Post
    As stated earlier, a great resource. Any possibility that dates of service might be added at a later date?
    Many thanks for a wonderfully useful list Germany's planes.
    That was next. Got to figure out display.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumptonian View Post
    Surprised to see so few of certain "iconic aircraft". especially the Dr.1


    And maybe not "iconic" but really nice looking Siemans-Schuckert D.III

    Ares needs to look at this list and fill in the holes appropriately:
    (are you sure that all of these were the same or was the total 3250 across the brands ?)
    D.F.W. C.V -- 3,250
    Halberstadt C.V -- 3,250
    L.V.G. C.V -- 3.250

    Pflaz D.XII -- 800



    Good catch fixed the LVG C.V 1,500
    Halberstadt C.V 200

    The aircraft that seems to define German aircraft only 320 produced. After knowing more about WW1 when I think of the most iconic German aircraft I now think Albatros D.III.
    Thanks for the extra eyes.

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    Ares definitely needs to do the D.F.W C.V and the Pfalz D.XII

    ... and reprint those Albatros D.III

    Thanks for checking it out.

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    Nice work! Years ago I tried to put together such a list, but there was a lot of confusion between number produced and maximum number at the front (Frontbestand data). The references have gotten a lot better since then, and we keep discovering new data (e.g. the A.E.G. N.I [~200], Junkers J.I [227]).

    There are inherent difficulties in trying to make a definitive list. For instance, until late 1917 all the varieties of the Rumpler C.IV were lumped together under that one name, but later on they started differentiating by the engine installed and some minor equipment differences like bomb racks. Though the airframes were all roughly the same, the C.V, C.VI, C.VII, C.VIII, C.IX, Rubild, and Rubild Mb were all C.IV variants.

    I'll try to add some more when I get a chance to do some research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReducedAirFact View Post
    Nice work! Years ago I tried to put together such a list, but there was a lot of confusion between number produced and maximum number at the front (Frontbestand data). The references have gotten a lot better since then, and we keep discovering new data (e.g. the A.E.G. N.I [~200], Junkers J.I [227]).

    There are inherent difficulties in trying to make a definitive list. For instance, until late 1917 all the varieties of the Rumpler C.IV were lumped together under that one name, but later on they started differentiating by the engine installed and some minor equipment differences like bomb racks. Though the airframes were all roughly the same, the C.V, C.VI, C.VII, C.VIII, C.IX, Rubild, and Rubild Mb were all C.IV variants.

    I'll try to add some more when I get a chance to do some research.
    I attempted this list a couple of times and ran into the same road blocks.
    Yes, I had to make some concessions and decided to use German Aircraft of the First World War by Peter Gray and Owen Thetford as my guide. Is it perfect. No. But it is the best.
    Like I wrote if you see anything let me know. More research can be conducted just focusing on one aircraft type. Also there is a variance of numbers so I went with the majority of the references.
    I could always subset the different models.

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    Fixed the Albatros C.III numbers to 796.
    Thanks, Simon

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    Do we know anything about the Aviatik D.I or Fokker E.V?

    Also, if possible, does anyone have research/numbers on the Entente planes?

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    Ken,

    Aviatik D.I (1916)
    Aviatik of Leipzig-Heiterblick licence-built the Halberstadt D.II as the Aviatik D.I - later known as the Halberstadt D.II(Av)in late 1916. The experience helped in developing and building first original Aviatik single-seat fighter design, designated as the D.II.

    Aviatik D.II (1916)
    Developed from experiences learned with the D.I, the D.II was an orthodox staggered single-bay biplane with wood and fabric-covered wings. The airframe construction featured a steel tube forward section covered in a metal skin. The aft fuselage was largely skinned in plywood. Power was generated by the 160hp Mercedes D.III six-cylinder water-cooled engine. The armament consisted of the standard twin synchronized machine guns firing through the air-screw disc. It had poor performance and only the prototype was completed.

    For Fokker E.V see Fokker D.VIII

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    Thanks this is very helpful.

    Question:
    Quote Originally Posted by john snelling View Post
    Ken,

    Aviatik D.I (1916)
    Aviatik of Leipzig-Heiterblick licence-built the Halberstadt D.II as the Aviatik D.I - later known as the Halberstadt D.II(Av)in late 1916. The experience helped in developing and building first original Aviatik single-seat fighter design, designated as the D.II.
    Is the Aviatik D.I we have in the game really a Halberstadt D.II (of which 95 were built) under a licenced name?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken at Sunrise View Post
    Thanks this is very helpful.

    Question:


    Is the Aviatik D.I we have in the game really a Halberstadt D.II (of which 95 were built) under a licenced name?
    No. The Aviatik D.I we have in the game is from the Austro-Hungarian Aviatik (Oesterreichisch-Ungarische Flugzeugfabrik "Aviatik" GmbH) located in Vienna.

    Wiki best explains: Automobil und Aviatik AG was a German aircraft manufacturer during World War I. The company was established at Mülhausen (today in France) in 1910 and soon became one of the country's leading producers of aircraft, relocating to Freiburg in 1914 and establishing a subsidiary in Vienna as Österreichisch-Ungarische Flugzeugfabrik Aviatik. During the war, the company became best known for its reconnaissance aircraft, the B.I and B.II, although the Austro-Hungarian subsidiary also produced a number of its own designs, including fighters such as the D.I.


    Other notes:
    Aviatik in Vienna struggled early with only 70 aircraft accepted in 1915 in addition they repaired 59 aircraft (Aviatik and Fokker types). In May 1916 they brought in Adolf Janisch from UFAG as their aircraft department manager and brought in a gifted chief engineer Julius von Berg. Berg energized the whole company. He embarked on a design program that would create more prototypes than any other A-H company and was independent of its German counterpart. The distinctive Berg aircraft were produced in large numbers by Aviatik and five other manufacturers.

    Aircraft produced by Aviatik in A-H.
    Aviatik B.II
    Aviatik B.III
    Knoller B.I (Av)
    Knoller C.II (Av)
    Aviatik C.I
    Aviatik D.I
    Aviatik D.II
    For a total of 638 aircraft.

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    http://www.militaryfactory.com/searc...20(Berg)%20D.I

    Puts the production at 700 and the size is distinctly different.

    Odd that...

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    Puts the production at 700 and the size is distinctly different.

    Odd that...

    I'm sorry that I confused you. I only wrote the total of all aircraft made by Aviatik (Vienna) not the total of D.I aircraft produced (see below).

    The distinctive Berg aircraft were produced in large numbers by Aviatik and five other manufacturers.

    Aviatik built
    Aviatik D.I 38 series 71 built
    Aviatik D.I 138 series 87 built
    Aviatik D.I 238 series 120 built
    Aviatik D.I 338 series 58 built
    Aviatik D.II 39/339 series 12 built

    Aviatik D.I built by Lohner
    Aviatik D.I(Lo) 115 series 88 built
    Aviatik D.I(Lo) 315 series 22 built

    Aviatik D.I built by Lloyd
    Aviatik D.I(Ll) 48 series 10 built
    Aviatik D.I(Ll) 248 series 20 built
    Aviatik D.I(Ll) 348 series 1 built

    Aviatik D.I built by WKF
    Aviatik D.I(WKF) 84 series 10 built
    Aviatik D.I(WKF) 184 series 1 built
    Aviatik D.I(WKF) 284 series 24 built
    Aviatik D.I(WKF) 384 series 10 built

    Aviatik D.I built by Thone and Fiala
    Aviatik D.I(TH) 101 series 25 built
    Aviatik D.I(TH) 201 series 9 built

    Aviatik D.I built by MAG
    Aviatik D.I(MAG) 92 series 121 built

    I hope this is not turning into "I got you" type of posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john snelling View Post
    I hope this is not turning into "I got you" type of posts.
    Nope, no even sure what you mean.

    I was just trying to add the plane in the game to the above list. The history, kind of, makes it more fun. Like what one post said above, the most iconic plane for the Germans in WWI is the Fokker DR.1, of which only a little over 300 was made. Neat trivia, especially since the game I played last week was with all new players and one said we wanted to play the Red Baron before I even got the game out.



    P.S. also I thought it was odd the militaryfactory and wiki had difference sizes for the same plane.
    Last edited by Ken at Sunrise; 11-02-2016 at 10:58. Reason: P.S.

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    Wiki is often wrong - Very often, in fact!
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

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    Confusion lays that they are two totally different aircraft with the same name.

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    From Nachtflugzeug! German N-Types of WWI (Herris, 2013, Aeronaut Books):
    • A.E.G. N.I - 200? (Two orders of 100 each were placed, one in Dec '16 and the other in Nov '17. I assume the first was fully fulfilled or there wouldn't have been a second to the same company, and there are photos of several planes in the second batch, so it may have been fully completed also.)
    • Sablatnig C.I -- at least 5
    • Sablatnig N.I -- 45 to 50
    Last edited by ReducedAirFact; 12-26-2016 at 09:18.

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    From Fokker Fighters D.I~IV (Grosz, 1999, Albatros Productions):
    • Fokker D.I: 90 for the Army (in orders of 80 and 10), 6 for the Navy, and 16 for Austria-Hungary.
    • Fokker D.II: 181 for the Army (in orders of 12, 60, 4, 80 and 25), 1 for the Navy, and 28 for Austria-Hungary.
    • Fokker D.III: 210 for the Army (in orders of 30, 20, 60, and 100).
    • Fokker D.IV: 40 for the Army, and 4 for Sweden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReducedAirFact View Post
    From Fokker Fighters D.I~IV (Grosz, 1999, Albatros Productions):
    • Fokker D.I: 90 for the Army (in orders of 80 and 10), 6 for the Navy, and 16 for Austria-Hungary.
    • Fokker D.II: 181 for the Army (in orders of 12, 60, 4, 80 and 25), 1 for the Navy, and 28 for Austria-Hungary.
    • Fokker D.III: 210 for the Army (in orders of 30, 20, 60, and 100).
    • Fokker D.IV: 40 for the Army, and 4 for Sweden.
    We be looking into this later this week. Thanks

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    Thank you for compiling this resource, John.



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