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    NOVEMBER!?! Yikes! I should have bought more bars, I don't think they will last that long around here, the elves like chocolate . . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by clipper1801 View Post
    Put in a few supplies just in case they arrive sooner than later . . .

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    . . . thinking they might be susceptible to blood sugar and caramel . . . : )

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    So if they do a Kickstarter in November for a month or two, we are looking at another 6 months then? Next Year? I don't think so . . .

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    Releasing the new game in time for Gen Con and other Summer events would be sensible.

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    We are hoping to run a demo game at Origins 2018 in June...according to Ares, there's a chance they will have product there to support the new game...

    All the best,
    Matt

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    So I put the Mars bars into deep storage freeze, nothing should bother them there, they will be awoken from cyro sleep when the Martians appear next year. Nothing can go wrong of course . . . Meanwhile Aliens COVENANT is tonight's movie . . . : )

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    Oh Cliiiiii-pper, I think we're gonna need some "Pour me a B-49" threads soon...
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    Oh, you thought you might catch the Clipper napping? (That happens from 2-4 pm) I already have the YB49 in 1/200 & 1/144 both too big for pouring though . . .

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    Just checking to see if you were awake... why the Hell ARE you awake at this unGodly hour, anyway?
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    "No rest for the wicked and the righteous don't need it" . . . So I am told . . . Prepping for a week of fun flying models . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by clipper1801 View Post
    Meanwhile Aliens COVENANT is tonight's movie . . . : )

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    Just watched the tutorial, Mike, and it looks pretty straightforward - certainly not much more complicated than WW1 WoG itself, and the four different tripods look pretty nifty, too!

    Looking forward to supporting the Kickstarter in 8 days - and it only lasts three days, right!?

    All the best,
    Matt

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    Will there be new maps for this? The current ones will not look right, with the action all close to ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt56 View Post
    Just watched the tutorial, Mike, and it looks pretty straightforward - certainly not much more complicated than WW1 WoG itself, and the four different tripods look pretty nifty, too!

    Looking forward to supporting the Kickstarter in 8 days - and it only lasts three days, right!?

    All the best,
    Matt
    Oh, I hope I do not forget, such a narrow window for the Kickstarter . . . or is it a ploy by the Martians, will they come early in secret? . . . will they delay so we are off guard? . . . must dust off the telescope and task the space elves right away, what if they come early? . . . yikes!

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    Only three days? That sounds crazy.

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    It does sound weirdly short but that is what the Facebook page says at the moment.

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    I don't understand the reasoning or marketing behind a 3 day Kickstarter unless you only only targeting existing players and fans of the game. It was doubtful that I would get this. But even so I wouldn't mind seeing what comes in the Kickstarter kit.

    But since I'll be out of town it looks like I won't even have a chance at the Kickstarter.

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    I am now supporting KS French Army expansion to already great The Great War by R.Borg that lasts app. 3 WEEKS. This is just fine for all interested. The project has been funded in about 3 days, but S. Goals are being unlocked day by day...(hurraaaah!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by matt56 View Post
    Looking forward to supporting the Kickstarter in 8 days - and it only lasts three days, right!?
    It might have said that... but the Ares website has it listed as lasting until 21 December. Here's a link: http://www.aresgames.eu/20072

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    Glad to see it's going to be longer than just 3 days, Chris! Thanks for the link - the FB posting had it for three days originally, but perhaps that was a typo. If it's a month-long affair, perhaps there will be some stretch goals involved...

    All the best,
    Matt

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt56 View Post
    perhaps there will be some stretch goals involved...

    All the best,
    Matt
    Definitely, Matt. The last goal will be a Bacteria Card, 15 pts, that shall replace the Explosion one when dealt to a tripod.
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    Does anyone know if the game will include any airplanes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJG173 View Post
    Does anyone know if the game will include any airplanes?
    The Ares website says:

    "In Wings of Glory - Tripods & Triplanes, the knights of the air battle will fight against colossal fighting machines sent by the Martians to invade Earth. Players will take control of an awesome Martian Tripod, set upon bringing death and destruction on our planet, or fly on the most advanced flying machines created by Mankind during World War One, and try to use them to win the War of the Worlds. The Tripods & Triplanes Starter Set will include a Tripod model and an airplane model with bases, maneuver and damage decks, and everything needed to play. The game system will also include additional packs with different aircraft to play, and accessories."

    Edward

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJG173 View Post
    Does anyone know if the game will include any airplanes?
    Too bad the October/November posts are missing, as this was sort-of answered before. This is the unofficial anticipation of a fan and part-time playtester.

    If I compile the various posts (on this Forum and others), and information I have from the playtesting team, there will be a starter set with one Mk I tripod, and one Nieuport 16 with rockets (very similar to the Balloon Busting set). Any planes from the Wings of Glory line will be compatable with the spin-off game, as the game is designed that way. There will be additional tripods released, including Mk Is, up to Mk IVs.

    The issue will be that without the Starter Set, or an anticipated Tripods & Triplanes RAP (potential future release, if the Kickstarter goes well), you won't have the correct damage decks to play with tripods if you buy them separately. Also, there will be range rulers and templates that come in both boxes, that won't be available in Wings of Glory products.

    There may be mats, but that isn't necessary for play, despite the purists that state the ground scale would be wrong (All mats are out of scale anyway, we just imagine the altitude 'corrects' that).

    PS: I am also anticipating Equipment Cards with 37mm Cannons and rockets in the Starter Set (and RAP) that will be available to any Wings of Glory plane you'd want to fly against the Tripods.

    Sample Card (Not official, nor with the same rules as the Tripod version): OldGuy's WGF Equipment Cards Album - 37mm Cannon
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    Thanks for reprising this info, Mike - it's a damn shame that so much was disintegrated by Martian heat-rays when the site was down!!!

    I am really looking forward to the Kickstarter, and I'm having fun putting my 'classic' tripod together (leaning heavily on Clipper's pictures and walk-through of the process). Thanks for being sort of the 'point man' on this for us here on the Forum - watching your AARs and other posts has been a definite interest revver...

    All the best,
    Matt

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGuy59 View Post
    ..If I compile the various posts (on this Forum and others), and information I have from the playtesting team, there will be a starter set with one Mk I tripod, and one Nieuport 16 with rockets..
    So more Tripod and Bi-plane then !
    Sounds good Mike, thanks for the good gen on the contents & its availability as well as your efforts on this project - do you know how the 37mm cannon rules may differ from those we previously hashed out ?

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    Ares is running a social media competition before the Kickstarter. Prize is a set plus Tripods.
    You do have to volunteer your FB and/or Twitter details to maximise chance, but can get at least one "ticket," just by watching the promo video and telling them your email addy. Use a throwaway if need be.


    Enter via https://wn.nr/PTT9YS
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    Major question is ....is the game gonna hit store shelves down the line and what is KS exclusive to the game? Figure a special martian or plane would be about right.

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    I hope there is nothing exclusive. It really doesn't encourage people to buy it later, and I'd far rather people adopted it than folk on the Kickstarter felt smug.

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    Agree most of the content should be for sale later, but one or two exclusive items would not be out of line...after all they get our money far in advance and we DO take a risk if it does not work out. Map, plane, walker, or even special target cards. Does not have to be massive just something extra. The did it with Giants...Hmmm...maybe a few of the old cardstock type dash boards like we got in the old games. New artwork but the same thing (I have over a dozen of the old ones and love em better then the new flimsy ones). Target cards could be tanks advancing, infantry, arty battery, or houses.

    Exclusives are to encourage people to invest now rather then just wait till it hits the shelves. No exclusives, no reason to invest, meaning lack of capital to develop the line. They do have a reason for being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowcat View Post
    Agree most of the content should be for sale later, but one or two exclusive items would not be out of line...after all they get our money far in advance and we DO take a risk if it does not work out. Map, plane, walker, or even special target cards. Does not have to be massive just something extra. The did it with Giants...Hmmm...maybe a few of the old cardstock type dash boards like we got in the old games. New artwork but the same thing (I have over a dozen of the old ones and love em better then the new flimsy ones). Target cards could be tanks advancing, infantry, arty battery, or houses.

    Exclusives are to encourage people to invest now rather then just wait till it hits the shelves. No exclusives, no reason to invest, meaning lack of capital to develop the line. They do have a reason for being.
    I'm not opposed to backers getting something, I'd see it as very desirable that they are cosmetic rather than to do with gameplay. A deeper discount is also nice!

    Thicker card stock would be good, but I'd rather have the money in my pocket I think.

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    Greetings

    I agree that any KS backer exclusives should be cosmetic. I do not want anything that would reduce Ares' margins such that it would delay or prevent further WoG releases.

    I wonder if Ares will use the launch of Tripods and Triplans (T&T) in the general market to reissue one of the WoG waves to give T&T players more available aircraft and get more WoG sales - a sort of two birds with one stone approach.

    Regards

    Edward

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kustenjaeger View Post
    Greetings

    I agree that any KS backer exclusives should be cosmetic. I do not want anything that would reduce Ares' margins such that it would delay or prevent further WoG releases.

    I wonder if Ares will use the launch of Tripods and Triplans (T&T) in the general market to reissue one of the WoG waves to give T&T players more available aircraft and get more WoG sales - a sort of two birds with one stone approach.

    Regards

    Edward
    To the best of my knowledge, Wings of Glory will be a separate, but related, game.

    There is supposed to be a reprint of the S.E. 5as and other planes of Series 4 soon, but that was already on the release list, separate from Tripods and Triplanes. Up and coming, is a release of balloon sets, too. This next year will be very interesting for Wings of Glory.
    Mike
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    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Only fly in the ointment I see is the same old issue, When the new game comes out people will be looking for more planes to use in the game. We do not have enough avalible in stores now to feed the old game let alone a new add on game. We need a more reliable source of constant in stock aircraft, an in my opinion they should be the basic ones ( Fok D7 Fok TRi, Alb DIII, Eindekker, Camel, Se5a, Spad XIII, DH2..ect) Most do not exist now and are VERY expensive if you find em on E-bay. Aces are fine for the standard release schedule, but there needs to be a basic lot avalible at all times to keep interest in the game.

    I also hope the new game has rules for bombing the tripods so 2 seaters and giants can be more useful. Otherwise it will pile on more demand for single seaters that are the first to go as is.

    Sigh.add on number 2......

    OK if we are doing a KS maybe it should include a crack at a new release of planes at the same time. Allow people on the KS to preorder them so when they get their game it will have extra aircraft to go with the different mark walkers they will have on the KS. The KS money can be used to produce the new wave of fighters and after filling out the KS demand they will be released to the hobby stores for sale very soon after. No one gets anything exclusive, just quicker. and people jumping on the KS will not have to search for planes in stores as they can order them at the same time. For KS add ons , sell em in lots of 4, one of each type of plane. That way people will not be forced to buy all 12 at once.
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    Heavy bombers would need to bomb from high altitude because they are slow and lack the manoeuverability to dodge heat rays and death clouds.

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    "One Day More...Another day another Destiny"
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    I know this isn't productive but..

    What if a time machine brought USN Avenger aircraft from the future armed with HVAR rockets....

    You know Avengers... Like um the ones that disappeared over the Bermuda triangle.

    They were never lost, just sequestered to the past to stop the historical defeat of the Human Race...

    Avengers save the Human Race...

    Ooh oh... I just realized those tripods could just as easily slip forward in time to New Mexico to stop the heavy water experiments.

    Better warm up the P-51s just in case...

    Thank you for designing and producing such cool stuff Andrea...

    Chris

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    Um... like Avengers..?

    Just having fun good sirs...

    But the prospect of an army of tripods slipping into the future would be really cool...
    What if they were produced by Axis scientists... The pursuit of options is overwhelming...

    Reaching for a Mars Bar...
    Chris

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    Ummmm...when is this KS supposed to start?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by THECCRICH View Post
    Um... like Avengers..?

    Just having fun good sirs...

    But the prospect of an army of tripods slipping into the future would be really cool...
    What if they were produced by Axis scientists... The pursuit of options is overwhelming...

    Reaching for a Mars Bar...
    Chris
    Que the Twilight Zone Music, or the X-Files . . . no need to limit the Martian invasion to WWI, they could try again in say '42, or land in the Bermuda triangle and just happen to mix it up with a lost squadron of Avengers . . . just sayin' . . . . maybe even a Semi-Final Countdown . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowcat View Post
    Ummmm...when is this KS supposed to start?...
    Have a nice chilled 6 pack of Deschutes Black Butte Porter and a bag of Mars Mars Minis to open the bidding with, mucho mad moola in a secret Swiss PayPal account, Mrs Clipper is going to be distracted with a Ladies Advent Evening . . . all is quiet on the Martian Front . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowcat View Post
    Ummmm...when is this KS supposed to start?...
    3 PM, Central Europe Time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiolillo View Post
    Okay then, 7:00 a.m. Phoenix AZ time, might be a bit early for the Porter . . . but hey, you don't get invaded every day! Thanks Andrea for all the fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowcat View Post
    Only fly in the ointment I see is the same old issue, When the new game comes out people will be looking for more planes to use in the game. We do not have enough avalible in stores now to feed the old game let alone a new add on game. We need a more reliable source of constant in stock aircraft, an in my opinion they should be the basic ones ( Fok D7 Fok TRi, Alb DIII, Eindekker, Camel, Se5a, Spad XIII, DH2..ect) Most do not exist now and are VERY expensive if you find em on E-bay. Aces are fine for the standard release schedule, but there needs to be a basic lot avalible at all times to keep interest in the game.

    I also hope the new game has rules for bombing the tripods so 2 seaters and giants can be more useful. Otherwise it will pile on more demand for single seaters that are the first to go as is.

    Sigh.add on number 2......

    OK if we are doing a KS maybe it should include a crack at a new release of planes at the same time. Allow people on the KS to preorder them so when they get their game it will have extra aircraft to go with the different mark walkers they will have on the KS. The KS money can be used to produce the new wave of fighters and after filling out the KS demand they will be released to the hobby stores for sale very soon after. No one gets anything exclusive, just quicker. and people jumping on the KS will not have to search for planes in stores as they can order them at the same time. For KS add ons , sell em in lots of 4, one of each type of plane. That way people will not be forced to buy all 12 at once.
    Hmmm...

    More demand for planes. More people buying planes. More money going to Ares to increase their cashflow, so they can get more planes into production. More planes go into distribution.

    More planes for everyone!

    I like this plan...

    Oh! Bombing rules are not part of the play-testing, yet. And yes, it will have to be from a safe altitude to prevent the bombers from being burned before they can drop their bombs.

    Counting the hours, if not the minutes...
    Mike
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    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGuy59 View Post
    Hmmm...

    More demand for planes. More people buying planes. More money going to Ares to increase their cashflow, so they can get more planes into production. More planes go into distribution.

    More planes for everyone!

    I like this plan...

    Oh! Bombing rules are not part of the play-testing, yet. And yes, it will have to be from a safe altitude to prevent the bombers from being burned before they can drop their bombs.

    Counting the hours, if not the minutes...
    Better get those bombing bits figured out, I have a pair of Canadian flying wing biplane seaplanes warming up on a secret airfield near the border . . .

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    Have to agree on the bombing bits...a lot of the 2 seaters are not the most agile of craft for evasion. Also expect the price of rocket armed models out there to skyrocket. Maybe some sort of rocket rack we can retro fit onto existing planes would work. If not included as a SG I fully expect something to hit Shapeways real quick (and sell even quicker).

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