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    After training as a fighter pilot, Göttsch was assigned to Royal Prussian Jagdstaffel 8 on 10 September 1916. On 4 November 1916, he destroyed a Belgian observation balloon for his first victory. He then scored twice more before winning a momentous dogfight on 7 January 1917; his opponent that day was Thomas Mottershead, who won a posthumous Victoria Cross. Göttsch won a double victory on 1 February, but then was shot down and wounded in action for the first time two days later.

    Because of his wounding, he would not score again until 6 April 1917. By 5 May, he had doubled his victory total to twelve. He was once again downed, probably by the observer of Harry G. E. Luchford's Royal Aircraft Factory FE.2d on 29 June. After this wounding, he did not win again until 17 July 1917. By 16 September, he had pushed his tally to 17, downing a Sopwith Camel that day. On 25 September, he fell under the guns of a Bristol F.2 Fighter, wounded once again in the same combat that saw Rudolf Wendelmuth's downing. Göttsch returned to duty, but had no luck, being wounded for the fourth time on 25 November 1917 by James Dennis Payne.

    Göttsch would not return to action until January 1918. On 14 February, he was given command of Royal Prussian Jagdstaffel 19. The new Staffelführer would score only twice before his end, with back to back triumphs on 31 March and 1 April.
    Göttsch was killed in action on 10 April 1918 over Gentelles, apparently by return fire from the observer of an RE-8 (his final victim), although German accounts also claim he was hit by ground fire. His Fokker Dr.I triplane, marked with a swastika, fell behind British lines and was salvaged. Walter Göttsch's 20 victories included seven from 20 Squadron RAF; the score of victories would also have qualified him for a Blue Max had he survived.

    His 7 victories over the 20th squadron

    7Jan17 Vzfw. Göttsch-4v F.E. 2d 13.00 NE Kemmel, Ypres 12
    #A.39, 20 Sqn. RFC, Sgt. T. Mottershead,DCM,KIA & Lt. W.E. Gower,WIA

    1Feb17 Vzfw. Göttsch-5v F.E. 2d Bondues, N. Lille 18
    #A.1951, 20 Sqn. RFC, 2/Lt. W.A. Reeves,POW & 2/Lt. F.H. Bronskill,POW

    1Feb17 Vzfw. Göttsch-6v F.E. 2d E. Moorslede 19
    #A.28, 20 Sqn. RFC, 2/Lt. E.D. Spicer,KIA & Capt. C.M. Carbert,MC,KIA

    6Apr17 Offz.Stv. Göttsch-7v F.E. 2d 10.30 NE Polygon Wald 24
    #A.6358, 20 Sqn. RFC, 2/Lt. R. Smith,KIA & Lt. R. Hume,KIA

    24Apr17 Offz.Stv. Göttsch-9v F.E. 2d 9.10 E. Ypres 28
    #A.5144, 20 Sqn. RFC, Lt. N.L. Robertson,WIA & Capt. R.M. Knowles,MC,WIA

    5May17 Offz.Stv. Göttsch-12v F.E. 2d by Schaep Baillie 31
    #A.1942, 20 Sqn. RFC, 2/Lt. L.G. Bacon,POW & 2/AM G. Worthing,KIA

    31Jul17 Ltn.d.R. Göttsch-14v F.E. 2d 13.40 Moorslede-Becelaere 44
    #A.1956, 20 Sqn. RFC, 2/Lt. C.H. Beldam,POW & 2/Lt. W.H. Watt,POW

    He was either flying an Albatros D.II or D.III during this period.
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    So that's who my Dieter Tress is in Over the Trenches

    Thanks for posting.

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    A real bullet magnet & very brave man to keep going back. His story shows the effectiveness of some rear gunners.

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
    A real bullet magnet & very brave man to keep going back. His story shows the effectiveness of some rear gunners.
    In this particular case I know you meant "front gunner". A lot of bullets flying around they got to go somewhere.

    I found it interesting not only did he got shot so many times is that 7 out of 20 victories were from the same squadron over a 7 months. I do not think MvR got seven over the same squadron. Got to look that one up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john snelling View Post
    In this particular case I know you meant "front gunner"...
    No, I didn't, I was commenting on the number of times he was downed by an air gunner - twice, possibly three times out of the five.

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Thanks for this info good work.

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    Nice little bio on Gottsch, thanks John.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
    No, I didn't, I was commenting on the number of times he was downed by an air gunner - twice, possibly three times out of the five.
    Dave, I stand corrected.
    Thank you.

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    man! thats an epic obermantle!!!!



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