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View Poll Results: How many of each BoB Airplane Packs (w/decal sheet) do you plan to buy?

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  • Spitfire: 1-3

    17 50.00%
  • Spitfire: 4-6

    9 26.47%
  • Spitfire: 7+

    2 5.88%
  • Bf109: 1-3

    18 52.94%
  • Bf109: 4-6

    8 23.53%
  • Bf109: 7+

    4 11.76%
  • Hurricane: 1-3

    19 55.88%
  • Hurricane: 4-6

    8 23.53%
  • Hurricane: 7+

    3 8.82%
  • Stuka: 1-3

    22 64.71%
  • Stuka: 4-6

    6 17.65%
  • Stuka: 7+

    1 2.94%
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Thread: How many BoB minis do you plan on buying?

  1. #1

    Default How many BoB minis do you plan on buying?

    With the new BoB minis (Airplane Packs) coming out with a decal sheet so that you can easily do "repaints", I was wondering how many people are planning on ordering?

    The poll will allow you to select multiple choices, so please vote for each aircraft type with the number you think you would buy.

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    Voted. Whenever I say I'll be getting 'X' I usually end up getting more!

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    Euhm...none... I have everything what I need from Nexus...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan-Sam View Post
    Euhm...none... I have everything what I need from Nexus...
    Lucky you. I started WW2 late and have never seen a BoB Spitfire or Bf109 so I have some catching up to do!

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    Will enjoy all hope they come out reasonably soon [ within a year]

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    Hurricanes, Hurricanes 7+, all RF coded
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    Cannot have enough Hurries and Spit Squadrons


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    4 to 7 of each.

    Even though I started late I have managed to get 6 or 7 each of the old Nexus ones.
    (That's 6 or 7 of each type not each version)
    Never did get the Bader Hurricane.

    So with these additions I should be more than ready to have a proper Battle of Britain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teaticket View Post
    Lucky you. I started WW2 late and have never seen a BoB Spitfire or Bf109 so I have some catching up to do!
    Luck, that's everything. I did deserve it. Only a coincidence. Crossing fingers to you!

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    All of them.

    Unfortunately, the Financial Advisor will probably overrule that plan.

    Now have:

    British:
    4 Spitfires
    8 Hurricanes
    1 Beaufighter
    4 Gladiators
    4 Swordfish (Need maneuver decks)

    Need Defiants, Fairly Battles, Blenheims...

    Axis:
    6 Bf-109s
    3 He.111s
    2 Stukas
    1 Bf-110
    1 CR.42

    Need Heinkel He 115 B-1 and B-2 (Air-Sea rescue), Do.17s, Ju.88s, Fiat BR.20s, CANT Z.1007...
    Last edited by OldGuy59; 07-02-2016 at 23:03. Reason: Current Aircraft
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    wut?!?!? no he111s or me 110s??!?!??! ill probably get at least 1 more me109s. i might get 1 each of the others if theres any paint schemes that really catch my interest.

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    He-111 and Bf-110 are already available. Gather them if you wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiolillo View Post
    He-111 and Bf-110 are already available. Gather them if you wish.
    i know, and i have i just wondered that they werent in the poll. im sure there will be a spike in sales of them after the bob release!

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    Not an offered option: As many as I can afford, until either I hit the upper limit of offered decal options for each aircraft or supply runs out, whichever comes first.
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    I just put down the minimum I expect to buy.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Gotta have 'em all, and in sufficient numbers to repaint for both Battle of Britain and North Africa

    I make that 7+ of each

    This will also allow me to then sell off some of my Nexus spares.
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

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    I put down what I expect to get but of course need another Heinkle to add to my one & I also have a 110 for escort as well.

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    I'm really good equipped with Nexus models but I think I'll order one of each pack and one Bf.109/Spitfire Duel Pack.

    Maybe two Stukas...
    Voilą le soleil d'Austerlitz!

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    I'll be reasonable... (Now we all start laughing together.)

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    I said 1-3 on each one, but it maybe 4 or more, depending.

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    Ive been off here for a while and I've clearly missed something, when are these new planes out? Will there be Hurricanes as well as Spits? How is the choice of decals going to work? Colour me excited, can we now field a flight of planes in the same scheme? Wonderful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Helmut View Post
    Gotta have 'em all, and in sufficient numbers to repaint for both Battle of Britain and North Africa

    I make that 7+ of each

    This will also allow me to then sell off some of my Nexus spares.
    Hmmm... North Africa...
    Need Spitfire Mk Vs with Folks Air Filter under the engine, and Bf-109s with the air filter mod. Not much of a change to the 109, but some sculpting skills will be needed for the Spitfires. Then, repaints for all, and decals. Oh! And new maneuver decks, too...
    Mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGuy59 View Post
    Hmmm... North Africa...
    Need Spitfire Mk Vs with Folks Air Filter under the engine, and Bf-109s with the air filter mod. Not much of a change to the 109, but some sculpting skills will be needed for the Spitfires. Then, repaints for all, and decals. Oh! And new maneuver decks, too...
    Not for 1940/early 1941, like I'm doing.................
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

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    I dont do repaints so 1-3 of each

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dowters View Post
    Ive been off here for a while and I've clearly missed something, when are these new planes out? Will there be Hurricanes as well as Spits? How is the choice of decals going to work? Colour me excited, can we now field a flight of planes in the same scheme? Wonderful.
    Oh yes Nigel lots of Hurricanes! Polish 303 Sqd.

    Check out the Poll!

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    This will take some thought; I have a fair number of Nexus Bf-109s and Spitfires. I was hoping for the rerelease of Gallard, so I could get a strew of Abbeyville Boys in the air
    Stukas will be the lame duck in the flock, of course.
    Karl
    It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus

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    Now that I have just finished reading Stuka Pilot by Hans Ulrich Rudel I'm not so sure Karl.
    I suddenly need a lot more Stukas!
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Well, yeh, some Ju.87G models would be nice. I'd have to see if the B (the production model) and the G (Rudel's plane) are close enough visually to just repaint and rig some gun pods on.
    There was a nice diecast one sold around here a couple years ago, but it was 1/144 scale
    Karl
    It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus

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    The 'G' had a significantly greater wingspan, and a differently-shaped canopy, than the 'B', plus a twin MG 81 rear gun set up.

    'G' and 'D' basic airframes would be a much closer match.
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    I was wondering if they would do a Rudel as well, but since he was a Tank Buster I thought they may not.
    Would like to see it - would give me something to do with my Micro-Armor.

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    As far as the Stukas and Hurricanes are concerned it's really going to come down to paint schemes. Seeing as I have 3 of each of the prior Stukas (for a total of 9), I would say I am in for at least 3 of the new ones, maybe more.... I have 4 Baders, so the Hurricanes in British markings are certainly on my radar. I could easily buy 3-6 more, and likely sell a Bader or two. It will depend on finances and paint schemes to determine what the final numbers will be. Spits and 109s numbers are very subjective as I already have over 12 each. I would think another 6-8 of each with two of each included in the new starter very very likely.

    To expand the BoB theme further, I hope to see some more aircraft from that theater. I remember reading in here somewhere that the next bomber set would be Axis based, so here is to either a Ju-88 or Do.17 being included in the mix, with my personal preference for this go-around being the Ju-88 (plus a Betty for the Japanese).

    Also, can anyone expand upon the decal issues? Will they come with their national insignias already in place on wings and fuselage and will we be only adding squadron/unit markings? Will there be additional pilot cards? Will we have to put on all decals? Those will be other considerations for me when deciding how many to purchase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gully_raker View Post
    Oh yes Nigel lots of Hurricanes! Polish 303 Sqd.

    Check out the Poll!
    Well, in fact Hurries are multipurpose and multifront fighters/fighterbombers, so one coud never regret buying a bit more of them when currently needed.
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    Given that the Starter appears to be Spits and 109's only, I'll probably buy more 'Canes and Stukas than Spits or 109s.
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    since I already have 8 each of Spits and Hurris, I will only be adding 109s and Stukas.
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    probably


    Lest we forget

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    Quote Originally Posted by P-51D View Post
    Also, can anyone expand upon the decal issues? Will they come with their national insignias already in place on wings and fuselage and will we be only adding squadron/unit markings? Will there be additional pilot cards? Will we have to put on all decals? Those will be other considerations for me when deciding how many to purchase.

    The Squadron Pack minis will come with national markers applied already so they are at a minimum playable out of the box. Here is a image of the Stuka decal sheet...



    Note: The blue you see around the decals is the carrier film and will be clear decal film on the actual decal sheet.

    There will not be extra pilot cards in the Squadron Pack for all the different decals options. It simply adds too much to the cost and little detail can be found on most of the "normal" pilots that are on the decal sheets. There will be 3 extra cards per Squad Pack to add some variety, but Ares is closed lipped on what those might be. I'm guessing something like what we got in Series 6.

    Also, it was mentioned that if the Squad Pack format proves to be popular enough, we could expect to see a deck "skill cards" come out similar to one they are working on for Sails of Glory (we'll have wait and see what that is).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberst Hajj View Post
    The Squadron Pack minis will come with national markers applied already so they are at a minimum playable out of the box. Here is a image of the Stuka decal sheet...



    Note: The blue you see around the decals is the carrier film and will be clear decal film on the actual decal sheet.

    There will not be extra pilot cards in the Squadron Pack for all the different decals options. It simply adds too much to the cost and little detail can be found on most of the "normal" pilots that are on the decal sheets. There will be 3 extra cards per Squad Pack to add some variety, but Ares is closed lipped on what those might be. I'm guessing something like what we got in Series 6.

    Also, it was mentioned that if the Squad Pack format proves to be popular enough, we could expect to see a deck "skill cards" come out similar to one they are working on for Sails of Glory (we'll have wait and see what that is).
    Fantastic Herr Oberst, thanks for posting. I already have 12 Stukas but you can always use another Kette or two of dive-bombers!

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    Thanks for posting up the decal sheet Herr Oberst.

    That just confirms that I will have to shell out for all the minis I had originally planned for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Helmut View Post
    Thanks for posting up the decal sheet Herr Oberst.

    That just confirms that I will have to shell out for all the minis I had originally planned for.
    Same here, the list has grown again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Helmut View Post
    Thanks for posting up the decal sheet Herr Oberst.

    That just confirms that I will have to shell out for all the minis I had originally planned for.
    Quote Originally Posted by Teaticket View Post
    Same here, the list has grown again!
    We're all just suckers for plastic crack in pretty packaging
    Karl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberst Hajj View Post
    The Squadron Pack minis will come with national markers applied already so they are at a minimum playable out of the box. Here is a image of the Stuka decal sheet...



    Note: The blue you see around the decals is the carrier film and will be clear decal film on the actual decal sheet.

    There will not be extra pilot cards in the Squadron Pack for all the different decals options. It simply adds too much to the cost and little detail can be found on most of the "normal" pilots that are on the decal sheets. There will be 3 extra cards per Squad Pack to add some variety, but Ares is closed lipped on what those might be. I'm guessing something like what we got in Series 6.

    Also, it was mentioned that if the Squad Pack format proves to be popular enough, we could expect to see a deck "skill cards" come out similar to one they are working on for Sails of Glory (we'll have wait and see what that is).
    Nice! Now, anyone out there that can read WWII Luftwaffe ID's and tell me how many legit numbers that adds up to? Or is there an instruction sheet included?

    I do recall that each Schwarm was four fighters (two Rotten) or three bombers (one Kette), the Schwarmen in each Staffel were color-coded (Red, Blue, Yellow, Green), a Gruppe was three Staffeln plus a three-plane Stabschwarm and a Geschwader was three Gruppen (or for single-ngine ighters, frequently four and sometimes even five) plus a four-plane Staschwarm, but that tells us less than jack about if F1+AC, F1+AH, F1+DP, F1+AN, S2+AC, S2+AH, S2+DP, and S2+AN are all legitimate codes or not.

    F1+ is I/Stukageschwader 76, and all of its Gruppen should have codes ending in C, M, N or P. So far, that leaves us just three appropriate ID's: F1+AC (lead of first Kette, first Staffel), F1+DP (lead of second Kette, fourth Staffel), F1+AN (lead of first Kette, third Staffel.) StG76 is a complicated case, though, as all its I Gruppe ID's were peeled off and reserved for Kampfgeschwader 76.

    S2+ is Stukageschwader 77.

    If the last digit (Staffel ID) is C (II Gruppe Stab), the Aircraft ID (third digit) should be Green. M and P (4 and 6 Staffel respectively, II Gruppe) should be a Yellow ID; N (5 Staffel, II Gruppe) should be Red and H (StG77 only, 1 Staffel, I Gruppe) should be White. So we have seven legit ID's and can't build ONE correct Kette because no two are from the same Staffel! Please, dear GOD don't let them have done this with the fighters...

    Hey, Keith or Dom, you up for some corrective Aircraft ID's? And can anyone make sense of those crests?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    Well, yeh, some Ju.87G models would be nice. I'd have to see if the B (the production model) and the G (Rudel's plane) are close enough visually to just repaint and rig some gun pods on.
    There was a nice diecast one sold around here a couple years ago, but it was 1/144 scale
    Karl
    I have a very nice Corgi 1/72nd Scale diecast model of Rudel's Stuka.

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    If memory serves, there were some big changes from the B/R to the D, and again from the D to the G. Like "major surgery" level to go from one to another.
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    Nice decal sheet, Herr Oberst.

    So if we repaint the Stukas we only have to care for the German crosses.
    Voilą le soleil d'Austerlitz!

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    So, plausible markings for the two Stukageschwadern of BoB for anyone who wants to do DIY Decals:

    Component Geschwader Code Balkankreuz Aircraft in Squadron Squadron ID
    Stab/StG76 F1 + A, B, C, D ???
    Stab I./StG76 F1 + A, B, C C
    1./StG76 F1 + (white)
    A, B, C
    D, F, G
    H, K, L
    M, N, P
    M
    2./StG76 F1 + (red or black)
    A, B, C
    D, F, G
    H, K, L
    M, N, P
    N
    3./StG76 F1 + (yellow)
    A, B, C
    D, F, G
    H, K, L
    M, N, P
    P
    Stab II./StG76 F1 + A, B, C D?
    4./StG76 F1 + (white)
    A, B, C
    D, F, G
    H, K, L
    M, N, P
    R?
    5./StG76 F1 + (red or black)
    A, B, C
    D, F, G
    H, K, L
    M, N, P
    S?
    6./StG76 F1 + (yellow)
    A, B, C
    D, F, G
    H, K, L
    M, N, P
    T?
    Stab III./StG76 F1 + A, B, C F?
    7./StG76 F1 + (white)
    A, B, C
    D, F, G
    H, K, L
    M, N, P
    U?
    8./StG76 F1 + (red or black)
    A, B, C
    D, F, G
    H, K, L
    M, N, P
    V?
    9./StG76 F1 + (yellow)
    A, B, C
    D, F, G
    H, K, L
    M, N, P
    W?
    Stab/StG77 S2 + A, B, C, D A
    Stab I./StG77 S2 + A, B, C B
    1./StG77 S2 + (white)
    A, B, C
    D, F, G
    H, K, L
    M, N, P
    H
    2./StG77 S2 + (red or black)
    A, B, C
    D, F, G
    H, K, L
    M, N, P
    K
    3./StG77 S2 + (yellow)
    A, B, C
    D, F, G
    H, K, L
    M, N, P
    L
    Stab II./StG77 S2 + A, B, C C
    4./StG77 F1 + (white)
    A, B, C
    D, F, G
    H, K, L
    M, N, P
    M
    5./StG77 S2 + (red or black)
    A, B, C
    D, F, G
    H, K, L
    M, N, P
    N
    6./StG77 S2 + (yellow)
    A, B, C
    D, F, G
    H, K, L
    M, N, P
    P
    Stab III./StG77 (to 7/40) S2 + A, B, C D
    Stab III./StG77 (from 7/40) F1 + A, B, C B
    7./StG77 (to 7/40) S2 + (white)
    A, B, C
    D, F, G
    H, K, L
    M, N, P
    R
    7./StG77 (from 7/40) F1 + (white)
    A, B, C
    D, F, G
    H, K, L
    M, N, P
    H
    8./StG77 (to 7/40) S2 + (red or black)
    A, B, C
    D, F, G
    H, K, L
    M, N, P
    S
    8./StG77 (from 7/40) F1 + (red or black)
    A, B, C
    D, F, G
    H, K, L
    M, N, P
    K
    9./StG77 (to 7/40) S2 + (yellow)
    A, B, C
    D, F, G
    H, K, L
    M, N, P
    T
    9./StG77 (from 7/40) F1 + (yellow)
    A, B, C
    D, F, G
    H, K, L
    M, N, P
    L

    note: F1+xB, xH, xK, xL taken by I./KG76 to 7/40, unsure which Geschwader had F1+xA
    Last edited by Diamondback; 07-07-2016 at 01:28. Reason: Lotta "F1"s that shoulda been "S2"s
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    So is that 5 different Stukas or could we possible switch the single black A's and D's to produce 2 more?

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    Thanks Keith and DB that helps to clarify things a lot more.
    Rob.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naharaht View Post
    So is that 5 different Stukas or could we possible switch the single black A's and D's to produce 2 more?
    David, the black letters and white #10s are wing markings, a repeat from the fuselage AC ID code.

    This sheet nominally has ten possible aircraft, but there are two different styles of "AC" so the duplication cuts it to eight, F1+AH is a Late to the Party (missed BoB IIRC) which further cuts it to seven:

    S2+AC = Gruppenkommandeur, II Gruppe, Stukageschwader 77
    S2+AH = Staffelfuhrer, 1 Staffel, I Gruppe, Stukageschwader 77
    S2+AN = Staffelfuhrer, 5 Staffel, II Gruppe, Stukageschwader 77
    S2+DP = Leader of 2 Kette, 6 Staffel, II Gruppe, Stukageschwader 77
    F1+AC = Gruppenkommandeur, I Gruppe, Stukageschwader 76
    F1+AN = Staffelfuhrer, 2 Staffel, I Gruppe, Stukageschwader 76
    F1+DP = Leader of 2 Kette, 3 Staffel, I Gruppe, Stukageschwader 76
    Last edited by Diamondback; 07-07-2016 at 01:39.
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    Maybe someone asked before, but how many plane cards will we get for the upcomming squadrons?
    Voilą le soleil d'Austerlitz!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marechallannes View Post
    Maybe someone asked before, but how many plane cards will we get for the upcomming squadrons?
    Good question!

    Every repaint I do requires a card, and I'm already short dozens and dozens of cards
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    An instruction leaflet to make each provided color scheme will be included in the pack.

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