How often do you fly 2 seaters ?

**grumpybear** · 04-30-2015 12:46

I fly one almost every time I play. Albatross CIII my fave but also others for variety.

**Пилот** · 04-30-2015 15:37

Not to often (voted "Sometimes"), but they do add additional flavour to the game. At the beginning I've been a bit skeptical, but, as time went on I found out I like them.

**Teaticket** · 04-30-2015 15:44

I like 2 searter but don't fly them as much as I'd like. Can't wait to try the new Hannover!

**Warhawk** · 04-30-2015 17:56

Only sometimes for me. Usually doing bombing runs my friends prefer to have me do the run in the two seaters. Most of our engagements are dogfights anyway though.

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 05-01-2015 12:13

Funny how things change over time.
Since we started this thread back in 2010, I would now have to answer differently, and say when the scenario demanded it.
We have so many more to choose from now, and the large bombers are carrying out some of the rolls that the two seaters used to do.
Still fly my "Biff" whenever I can though.

Rob.

**Willi Von Klugermann** · 05-01-2015 12:21

Surprisingly, I use them more now than in the past.

**Hedeby** · 05-02-2015 09:20

I confess I am addicted to Bristols... I fly 2-seaters most of the time as well, lol

**Zoe Brain** · 05-03-2015 06:34

There are 2-seaters, and then there are 2-seater fighters. Brisfits, CL.IIs and CL.IIIs.

Even flying BE2c's can be fun. The lack of armament encourages you to stick to the mission, be it arty spotting, bombing or photo recon, and not get too aggressive. Just surviving is a challenge, but evasion maneuvers are possible.

**milcoll73** · 05-04-2015 16:33

i like flying them all but 2 seaters are a lot of fun! (as are bombers).

**'Warspite'** · 05-05-2015 02:38

For mission-based games two-seaters are essential.

LOOP · 05-05-2015 03:26

Originally Posted by Hedeby

I confess I am addicted to Bristols...

Easy to become

**john snelling** · 05-06-2015 21:04

All the time.

**greenalfonzo** · 05-16-2015 13:16

I fly them more than I used to. Now that we have more 2 seater fighters instead of the more bomber/recon types.

LOOP · 05-18-2015 01:07

Originally Posted by Hedeby

I confess I am addicted to Bristols...

And now and think I have made Bristol-junkies of 2 of the kids at home

**csadn** · 05-18-2015 17:08

[Achmed] THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID! [/Achmed]

**john snelling** · 08-16-2015 12:58

I played the Hannover for the first time against an opponent yesterday. I was a blast to play very enjoyable. I will be playing it more often.

**Tonx** · 08-16-2015 13:51

Though I play WW2 / WGS and realise this thread relates to two-seaters in WW1 / WGF there are I believe some common factors certainly in relation to the flight characteristics of aircraft / style of flight within gameplay ...

So I voted About Half Of The Time as what's already mentioned differs and at times quite extensively in both versions of Wings of Glory / War. I prefer to practice flying different seating configurations on a regular basis rather than fixating on one ... Only to find myself playing the other and thinking by accident that I'm flying whichever I have been fixating on leading to player & pilot error. I also like the way that two-seaters most often provide me with an additional gunner / additional crew member should one become incapacitated when faced with a particularly rugged or well-armed opponent. But as aircraft size and weight increases manoeuverability in general tends to drop. Requiring additional flying skills and knowledge one can only gain from playing two-seater aircraft types regularly and acquiring experience.

There is no substitute for experience ...

Something I really like about WGF having played a couple of times through the Aerodrome is the real 'feeling' you get of stick and rudder flying which can only really be experienced in WGS when using the biplanes of WW2. As you progress away from the biplanes that same 'feeling' of stick and rudder flight tends to get lost amidst more speed, less manoeuverability and in places increases in firepower. Have yet to fly a two-seater playing WGF but I would definitely like to have a go ...

**fast.git** · 08-16-2015 17:32

Originally Posted by 'Warspite'

For mission-based games two-seaters are essential.

Exactly! Love two-seaters... they add an interesting layer of variability to the game, so long as both sides have the option.

**Jager** · 08-17-2015 00:19

Originally Posted by Aussietonka

I also like the way that two-seaters most often provide me with an additional gunner / additional crew member should one become incapacitated when faced with a particularly rugged or well-armed opponent. But as aircraft size and weight increases manoeuverability in general tends to drop. Requiring additional flying skills and knowledge one can only gain from playing two-seater aircraft types regularly and acquiring experience.

Differences in the flight characteristics between single seater and two seater planes are much less in WGF than in WGS, as they were in real life. Esp. when you get to the two seater fighters, like the German CL class and the Bristols. Those can be quite lethal in the right hands.
Karl

**BellMW54** · 08-18-2016 06:27

Although I voted "about half the time" for the poll, in actuality (for me anyway) it may be greater. I like games that are mission driven. Yes, straight out dogfights are exciting and I've participated in a lot of them, but playing with a particular objective to be accomplished further promotes strategy as well as basic tactics. Two-seaters remind us what the air war was originally all about: reconnaissance, spotting, bombing, etc. Everything else grew out of that!

**Teaticket** · 08-18-2016 07:09

Mike, you hit the nail on the head. The scouts get all the glory and attention but it really was all about the 2 seater missions. Mission oriented games are infinitely more fun than straight out dogfights.

**john snelling** · 08-18-2016 07:20

I like including them in most of my games. Love the German CL series and the British Bristol.

**Walter Nowotny** · 08-18-2016 08:41

Originally Posted by LOOP

Old thread but anyway....

I use my 2-seaters when it's necessary. For recon-, bombing and escortmissions. It is fun to fly and fun to shoot them down.
But for a quick dogfight I prefer a scout.

Same here, we only use them for bombing or photo recon, and then usually one with two escorts.

**zenlizard** · 08-18-2016 11:54

Originally Posted by BellMW54

I like games that are mission driven. Yes, straight out dogfights are exciting and I've participated in a lot of them, but playing with a particular objective to be accomplished further promotes strategy as well as basic tactics. Two-seaters remind us what the air war was originally all about: reconnaissance, spotting, bombing, etc. Everything else grew out of that!

Originally Posted by Teaticket

Mike, you hit the nail on the head. The scouts get all the glory and attention but it really was all about the 2 seater missions. Mission oriented games are infinitely more fun than straight out dogfights.

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