A moment frozen in time

**andron234** · 12-30-2015 07:24

My Brother sent me an email yesterday, He had found a picture, that he thought might interest me "A moment frozen in time"Attachment 184255

My brother had found it looking for a class of Locomotive, All I know about the picture is that it's somewhere in the UK, and a V1 is about bring devastation to a Marshalling yard, Is there a post strike photo? Have you a favourite frozen moment in time? Happy New Year

**Nightbomber** · 12-30-2015 08:14

This is a terrific and terrifying photo, Drew. Breathtaking. You almost hear the whiiiiiiiiziiing sound and expect an explosion in a moment.
I must think about the frozen moment of mine...hmmm...

**tikkifriend** · 12-30-2015 08:38

What an incredible photo Drew. Only thing I have frozen in Tyme is this years Turkey

**Teaticket** · 12-30-2015 09:13

Wow, great photo. I've never seen anything like it. I wonder how many images there are of like incidents?

**flash** · 12-30-2015 09:46

Originally Posted by andron234

... All I know about the picture is that it's somewhere in the UK, and a V1 is about bring devastation to a Marshalling yard, Is there a post strike photo? ...

In an attempt to identify the location I Googled the loco 30493 and got this: The LSWR G16 class is a steam tank locomotive class of 4-8-0T wheel arrangement. It was designed by Robert Urie and introduced in 1921 specifically for heavy shunting over humps at Feltham marshalling yard, on the London and South Western Railway (LSWR).
If you Google Feltham marshalling yard you will see this same image in wiki sans V.1.... so I think that's not a moment frozen in time but rather a faked one.
The yard was bombed in WW2

"Bomb damage in the yard - Amazingly operations resumed within 24 hours - unexploded bombs actually took longer to resolve."

**brdavis** · 12-30-2015 10:27

Originally Posted by flash

I think that's not a moment frozen in time but rather a faked one."

I recently did some research on photo manipulation through history, so that was my first thought when I saw the photo.
In the Chrome browser you can right click the photo and 'Search Google for image' to see the non-V1 version.

**andron234** · 12-30-2015 10:34

I checked out Feltham marshalling yard, and I see your point, But could "My Picture" be the next frame on the camera, a fraction of a second apart? GREAT detective work "Flash" on finding the event.

**Tonx** · 12-30-2015 10:34

This has to be my favourite Frozen in Time moment - photo by Barry Bland located at Upton Park in London ...

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**flash** · 12-30-2015 10:57

Originally Posted by andron234

I checked out Feltham marshalling yard, and I see your point, But could "My Picture" be the next frame on the camera, a fraction of a second apart? GREAT detective work "Flash" on finding the event.

No. Even a fraction of a second later the train would be in a different position and the smoke/steam would have a different shape. I can see no difference in the photos, besides, in the article the photo is clearly dated 1958... though I can't verify that !

**Sagrilarus** · 12-30-2015 11:58

The angle of attack got me suspicious, but a quick look at Youtube showed a couple of these more or less tumbling out of the air once their fuel ran out.

Interesting photo, wouldn't be surprised if there are real photos showing them coming down.

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 12-30-2015 12:54

Here is one about to destroy Kenton Gardens.

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This is the Lyon's family home in Kenton Gardens before the Bomb struck.

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This is the aftermath.

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Rob.

**grumpybear** · 12-30-2015 13:09

Fake or not still an interesting photo

**David Manley** · 12-30-2015 13:56

Here's an interesting one that is genuine.....

**andron234** · 12-30-2015 14:56

Originally Posted by flash

No. Even a fraction of a second later the train would be in a different position and the smoke/steam would have a different shape. I can see no difference in the photos, besides, in the article the photo is clearly dated 1958... though I can't verify that !

Flash you well might be right, Have a look at this WW2 US carrier picture

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and here's a D-Day landing picture I've not seen before

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**flash** · 12-30-2015 23:04

Originally Posted by David Manley

Here's an interesting one that is genuine.....

Well the tractor was first registered in Chelmsford (Hertfordshire to 1974) according to the number plate - the crash was in Hatfield 13th September 1962 !
http://fearoflanding.com/photography...le-photograph/

If you look carefully you can see the hole in the green house roof where the pilot landed !

**flash** · 12-31-2015 00:08

Originally Posted by andron234

Flash you well might be right, Have a look at this WW2 US carrier picture

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and here's a D-Day landing picture I've not seen before

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Oh, what could have been....

Robert C. Stroop SP-6 and SP-7 "Speed Plane" projects of 1935-9: a pair of designs submitted to the US Army Air Corps which featured a folding scissor "X-wing" to convert the aircraft from biplane to monoplane configuration, the intention being to combine the short field length and climb capabilities of the former with the speed of the latter....!
http://retromechanix.com/stroop-x-wi...w-plan-of-sp-7

**Burt** · 12-31-2015 07:09

Going back to the original picture on the side of the loco, the logo looks like a lion and a wheel the logo for British Railways introduced in about 1950 and checking the original photo it says 1958, so it is a fake picture.