Ijn Kagero in 1/200" scale,why not?

**clipper1801** · 09-06-2015 10:22

Whilst adrift on Amazon I could not resist this tome. Then I acquired it and opened it! Yikes! Hold the foam!

Astounding book, but the accompanying drawings blew me away! An excellent 1:350 scale black line drawing . . .

Followed by a larger scale (not 1:200) color drawing! Also in excellent detail . . .

Just a wee bit longer than the Asashio class, it will build up at a length of 23.32" Yea! Destroyers on the horizon!

**Flying Helmut** · 09-06-2015 10:24

Hurrah!

Escorts for the Akagi!

**Oberst Hajj** · 09-07-2015 08:56

Originally Posted by Flying Helmut

Hurrah!

Escorts for the Akagi!

You mean targets for the SBDs!! lol

**matt56** · 09-07-2015 10:58

This will be spectacular, too, Dave! Have you given any thought to dipping into WWI smaller ships - perhaps 1/144 destroyers or torpedo boats? They would make fun coastal 'ground' targets...

All the best,
Matt

**Blackronin** · 09-07-2015 12:20

And it starts again.

**clipper1801** · 09-08-2015 22:56

Foam board? Check! Hot glue? Check! Latex mold material? Check! Resin supply? Check! Paints ready? Check! Full size drawings? Check! 3 day weekend? Check!

**Doug** · 09-09-2015 00:40

Looking good Dave

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 09-10-2015 02:08

Yet another magnificent vessel looms on the horizon Dave.
Elves notwithstanding I am still in awe of your production rate.

Rob.

**clipper1801** · 09-14-2015 09:52

Do to a tight building/vacation schedule, the elves have elected to go ahead on 6 Kagero class destroyers at this time. Major hull formers cut 6 at a time:

12 sides, 6 main decks

6 bow decks ready. Now the fun begins!

**Blackronin** · 09-14-2015 10:11

Oh Lord! Are you relaunching the Empire?

**Flying Helmut** · 09-14-2015 10:40

Amazing!

Armchair, cushion, Brandy all in place...................commence watching brief!

**csadn** · 09-14-2015 13:09

Maybe Clipper could add some sails to them, for Helmut's benefit. :)

**fast.git** · 09-14-2015 14:49

The man (and his elves, of course) is amazing. Can't wait for the next update.

**matt56** · 09-14-2015 15:31

These 'little guys' are going to be aMAZing!! I look forward to watching the progress, too

All the best,
Matt

**clipper1801** · 09-15-2015 22:04

Caught the elves with the glue gun heating . . . they are banned from all things electric . . .

Blue light means ready go in hot melt glue language : )

Parts prepped, bow tapered to an angle, sides crimped for the final curve of the sides and stern

Foam core decks notched for the assembly

Cross formers pre-glued in place

Parts in place and glued from below

And above

Now to ponder the process before finishing the other 5 . . .

**Blackronin** · 09-16-2015 00:16

What a good morning wake-up call. Thanks Dave!

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 09-16-2015 01:08

Super work Dave.
How did you put the lip on the foamboard. With a router?
Rob.

**fast.git** · 09-16-2015 04:06

Originally Posted by Flying Officer Kyte

Super work Dave.

Quite right... and fast. That, to me, is one of the more amazing things: the quality is without question, true, but the speed at which it all comes together...!

**Oberst Hajj** · 09-16-2015 07:51

This is going to be a fun scenario at Origins this coming year!!

**clipper1801** · 09-16-2015 08:26

Originally Posted by Flying Officer Kyte

Super work Dave.
How did you put the lip on the foamboard. With a router?
Rob.

Not at this point, I used an X-acto #11 and knife to cut just through the first layer of cardstock and then cut the foam from the edge by hand. Less a challenge than it sounds like, trick is to not cut through the second cardstock . . . As for the speed I build the models several times through in my head before I attack the real thing, helps me see possible challenges or new ideas, so it will be with the Radar Tower and the Dams projects.

**clipper1801** · 09-18-2015 20:55

Paper pattern time!

After a visit with the band saw elves . . .

Now for the elevations and sculpting

**matt56** · 09-19-2015 02:38

This just gets better and better!

All the best,
Matt

**clipper1801** · 09-21-2015 22:40

We have destroyer bits!

Molds on the proto deck

Turrets and torpedo launchers need to be multiplied, but you get the idea!

Tomorrow we make lots of molds, then lottsa parts!

**clipper1801** · 09-21-2015 23:26

Parts inventory, over 30 items just for the deck!

Several parts will be multiples, then there will be the rigging!

And a card or two, oh Card Master Mike . . .

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 09-21-2015 23:48

Coming along very well Dave.
Rob.

**matt56** · 09-22-2015 02:23

I love your masters for the upcoming resin deck pieces - 30 parts?!?! Amazing

All the best,
Matt

**Oberst Hajj** · 09-22-2015 09:55

Wow, these "little" ships are turning out to be big work!

**OldGuy59** · 09-22-2015 10:23

Aircraft carriers, despite their size, were much easier. The planes that went with them, perhaps not so much.

You are awesome, Dave!

**Barkmann** · 09-22-2015 10:40

That's awesome! If I remember correctly, you have 2 carriers (1 japanese, 1 american) right? I can only imagine how fun it would be to play a scenario with those!

REP

Thanks

Nick

**fast.git** · 09-22-2015 12:16

Love the updates... please keep them coming!

**clipper1801** · 09-22-2015 12:42

Originally Posted by Barkmann

That's awesome! If I remember correctly, you have 2 carriers (1 japanese, 1 american) right? I can only imagine how fun it would be to play a scenario with those!

REP

Thanks
Nick

5 Allied Carriers, US and British, soon one German : ) and 3 IJN . . . running out of water to float them in . . .

**Flying Helmut** · 09-22-2015 12:55

Incredible!

Superb carriers, Dave!

**clipper1801** · 09-22-2015 21:12

So we hot glue the bits to the bottom of a plastic tub . . .

Like so . . . for each bit Then pour the latex mold goo . . .

Then we start pouring the bits . . .

Six times . . .

**Diamondback** · 09-22-2015 23:03

Trivial note: Kagero is basically an improved and stretched Asashio, Yugumo an improved Kagero with tweaked bridge and deckhouses on same hull. Going by the IJN's preference to order destroyers a complete 8-ship division at a time and the production numbers, several ships originally intended for build as Kageros ended up completed as Yugumos.

**Barkmann** · 09-23-2015 16:18

Originally Posted by clipper1801

5 Allied Carriers, US and British, soon one German : ) and 3 IJN . . . running out of water to float them in . . .

Amazing.... Just.... Amazing... I dont think I can say something else after that!

Cant give you more REP...

**clipper1801** · 09-23-2015 22:23

Pouring, pouring, its raining and pouring . . .

Just 2 more turrets to go! Yea!

**matt56** · 09-24-2015 02:14

Simply incredible, Dave! Instead of 'raining cats and dogs' perhaps 'pouring like elves' would be more appropriate?

This is soooo cool...

All the best,
Matt

**clipper1801** · 09-24-2015 21:37

Now the hard part, assembly as you paint, determining the level of detail. Ships are a black hole of detail-the reason I have avoided them all these years. I have even been tempted to crew these guys, at this scale it would be cool . . . But they are other things to build! Meanwhile I ask all you ship advocates what the real color the should be? The book shows a deeper gray blue than other sources indicate. . . Fortunately the elves . . . are here.

**Flying Helmut** · 09-25-2015 16:00

This link should help...........

http://www.tamiya.com/english/produc...tleship_color/

As you can see, ships built at Sasebo Arsenal were painted a slightly darker shade than those built at Kure Arsenal.

**Oberst Hajj** · 09-25-2015 23:42

Originally Posted by clipper1801

Those three look to have a lot of detail on them. Did you use printouts on the sides of the smaller two to get all that detail? And did you hand paint the deck of the US carrier? It looks great in that photo.

**clipper1801** · 09-26-2015 17:30

I like to find good line drawings of top and both side views which I make copies of and glue to the substrate. I then use things paint, more like a stain to gradually add color and detail. Saves a lot of time at this scale to add details like portals, seams and such. The effect seems good for our purposes.

The deck on the Hornet is layers of color-water color style. I got the colors from a guy who worked the flight line on her back in the war, lots of great sharing from him.

Originally Posted by Flying Helmut

This link should help...........

http://www.tamiya.com/english/produc...tleship_color/

As you can see, ships built at Sasebo Arsenal were painted a slightly darker shade than those built at Kure Arsenal.

Thanks! This does help. Just got home from a 24 hour 7th grade youth overnight, in need of some quiet therapy time : )