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    The cover of the jacket to hold the 50 pence piece issued by the Royal Mint no less, to celebrate the Battle of Britain. And the problem is......?

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    Well.... apart from it showing the wrong mark of Spitfire?

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    Supermarine Spitfire Mk IXs feature in the picture!

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    And wrong camo for BoB on them, of course.

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    Judging by the insignia located by the cockpit of each these Spitfire Mk IXs they are from the RCAF - not sure which Squadron.

    Also The Spitfire furthest away is rather badly drawn and looks more like a Mk XIV than a Mk IX. Or is that just me seeing things?!

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    Well chaps, that's what happens when they don't run it past us first.
    Rob.
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    It is RCAF Squadron No.416, active from November 18, 1941.

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    Well done chaps, give yourselves a banana!



    Now, we must all write a stiff letter to the Times about this.
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    On the other hand, it could be a poster with 4 RAF Se.5a fighters, because it was RAF who saved Albion

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    Darn! Did they get that wrong. They might as well have used this:

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    It is, at least, in close to the right colours, and the right markings. No. 1(RCAF) Squadron was flying Hurricanes, not Spitfires, though. If they wanted a Spitfire squadron, they could have used 92 Squadron. We even have a Wings of Glory plane, in the right markings:

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    P/O Allan Wright, WoW Deluxe Set

    Or, another Hurricane that flew in the battle, 242 (Canadian) Squadron.

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    S/L Douglas Bader, WoW Series Two

    Not the iconic Spitfire, though, but the workhorse of the battle.

    PS: Messed that up. Try this edit.
    Last edited by OldGuy59; 09-03-2015 at 10:25. Reason: Messed up the original post
    Mike
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    Royal Mint commemoratives are often wrong.

    The "Royal Navy" silver coin set I have includes a coin of the 1933 HMS Ark Royal, complete with a full colour data card depicting the 1980s HMS Ark Royal!

    The "Army" set has a coin commemorating the Battle of El Alamein, 1942, showing British 6-pounder anti-tank guns being attacked by two Tiger tanks! Tigers didn't arrive in North Africa until 1943, and then only in Tunisia, and only 10 of them!

    I have given up complaining to the Royal Mint; they just send back apologetic letters claiming that there was no way to know that they were wrong, and that the vast majority of purchasers wouldn't know, or care, one way or the other.

    Now I just save up my spare cash for buying minis!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan-Sam View Post
    It is RCAF Squadron No.416, active from November 18, 1941.
    No. 416 Squadron RCAF was formed at RAF Peterhead, Aberdeenshire, Scotland in 1941 as a fighter squadron for service during the Second World War and was based at various RAF stations in Scotland, England and continental Europe. The squadron was disbanded in March 1946.
    So, wrong plane, wrong squadron, wrong paint job .... Do Ares have something to do with the Royal Mint covers ?!!

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
    No. 416 Squadron RCAF was formed at RAF Peterhead, Aberdeenshire, Scotland in 1941 as a fighter squadron for service during the Second World War and was based at various RAF stations in Scotland, England and continental Europe. The squadron was disbanded in March 1946.
    So, wrong plane, wrong squadron, wrong paint job .... Do Ares have something to do with the Royal Mint covers ?!!
    Eewww! Note the heavy sarcasm.

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    Mike
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    I am so observant never even took notice. Wife bought it for me so just said thank you , looked at coin not package

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    This is why serious collectors buy from the these guys

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    and their Battle of Britain 75th Anniversary Collection quite frankly pisses all over the Royal Mint!

    https://www.iompost.com/stamps-coins...h-anniversary/

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
    No. 416 Squadron RCAF was formed at RAF Peterhead, Aberdeenshire, Scotland in 1941 as a fighter squadron for service during the Second World War and was based at various RAF stations in Scotland, England and continental Europe. The squadron was disbanded in March 1946.
    So, wrong plane, wrong squadron, wrong paint job .... Do Ares have something to do with the Royal Mint covers ?!!
    Harsh but fair

    Quote Originally Posted by FarEast View Post
    This is why serious collectors buy from the these guys

    and their Battle of Britain 75th Anniversary Collection quite frankly pisses all over the Royal Mint!
    I'm with James on this one. This is where I go first for commemorative stamps/coins.
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    I think there is a poll on one of the forums here somewhere entitled "Is History Important?" I guess with this you would have to say not according to the Royal Mint. The way of the world. Dumb everything down and who cares so long as it raises a profit. I am not a rivet counter but totally with you guys on this one. It is just unforgivable really.

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    Hmmm... I was thinking that the original image was a squadron picture of a flight of 416 Squadron Spitfires, with two different marks of planes. But, I found this:

    Magnoliabox.com Art - Patrolling Flight of 416 Squadron RCAF
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    Titled: Patrolling flight of 416 Squadron, Royal Canadian Air Force, Spitfire Mark 9s (gouache on paper)
    Artist: Wilf Hardy

    Who also did this:
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    I would think that they entered into a contract with the artist, or at least his copyright lawyer, to use the artwork. One wonders what the discussion was like. One wonders what the individual in charge of the Royal Mint project was looking for, and whether they paid any attention whatsoever to the artist's recommendations, or any of their history classes?
    Mike
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    It seriously makes one wonder why Royal Mint never used the second picture if the two are by the same artist and they have entered into an agreement with them ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGuy59 View Post
    Hmmm... I was thinking that the original image was a squadron picture of a flight of 416 Squadron Spitfires, with two different marks of planes. But, I found this:

    Magnoliabox.com Art - Patrolling Flight of 416 Squadron RCAF
    Titled: Patrolling flight of 416 Squadron, Royal Canadian Air Force, Spitfire Mark 9s (gouache on paper)
    Artist: Wilf Hardy
    Some pretty nice stuff by this artist, with 427 on this site.
    Karl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussietonka View Post
    Judging by the insignia located by the cockpit of each these Spitfire Mk IXs they are from the RCAF - not sure which Squadron.

    Also The Spitfire furthest away is rather badly drawn and looks more like a Mk XIV than a Mk IX. Or is that just me seeing things?!
    Yes Barney looks suspiciously like a maple leaf to me.
    All the above comments are correct! Wrong model Spit, Wrong Camo etc.

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    I think the people who put these things out need a technical advisor. A few months ago there was a tribute flight in Charleston SC. The news reported that WWII era planes would be doing the flyover. When they flew over I didn't see 1 WWII plane. They never seem to get things right.

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    I got it, I got it, the ten shilling note, is made out of metal? Attachment 174780

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    I'll have to dig through the collection of First Day Covers I inherited from my dad. I know there are definitely WWII and Battle of Britain ones.
    I have several hundred from the UK (including Isle of Man and the Channel Islands) and Canada, eh

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    Typical of advertisement GEEKS. Lack of research.

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    I've long since given up on the Royal Mint being historically accurate - but then I have never been tempted to buy any of their commemorative issues anyway



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