Dive bombing without using altitude rules
Our gaming time is usually limited to about 2 hours so we do not use altitude rules as I find that extends the game too much. Probably going to get a few recommendations here for a dumb question medal but is there any way to use the Dive Bombers without the altitude rules
G'day Gary!
You could use a method we have used at our games club.
If you have a GW Scatter dice you roll to see if the bomb hits or scatters provided the Dive Bomber passes over the Target.
If no scatter dice you can use a D6 & if a 5 or 6 is rolled then the Bomb hits.
Hope that helps.
Gary
Most of the games i run, altitude is not used. Remember the altitude rules are optional. Fly over you target and drop the bomb! Here is an example two Stukas going after a radar site!
Rich
shouldnt divebombing have some positive effect on bombing accuracy though? otherwise what benefit is there for going the whole divebomber vs level bomber route.Originally Posted by richard m schwab
Hi Phillip, I agree that Dive bombers especially Stukas were supposed to be the ultimate aerial artillery. Looking at Barry's idea perhaps that could covered by a higher probability in rolling the dice. For example 4-6 on a dice roll equals total destruction, 1-3 equals 50% damage ? I am not trying to detract anything from the well written altitude rules, I just would rather not use them for a faster game.
That's an interesting question and clearly house ruling the solution is the way to go....but is there any way to use the Dive Bombers without the altitude rules
I would suggest that you approach the target and on the appropriate card near it play a stall card to represent the Stuka rolling into the dive.
The next two to three cards I would suggest should be used for the dive bombing - Now as the Stuka can dive very steeply so you can either decide it doesn't move at all, or, you could play two to three short cards (ignoring they are consecutive steeps) to give it a little overground movement dropping the bombs on the second or third card with say one short card to impact.
I would then play a climb card to show the Stuka has pulled out of its dive and if you are of a mind you could say the crew are pulling so much G they cannot fire their weapons on that movement !
To attack the Stuka in the 'dive' element or after the bomb drop then I would suggest that any attacking plane will have to play a dive card to show it has dropped to that level to make the attack.
It's probably more complex than that but this might give you a starting point to play around with.
Sapiens qui vigilat... "He is wise who watches"
I like the above idea Dave - I am reading this thread not through time constraints but how to play and avoid snapping altitude pegs. Begun practicing dive bombing recently and one of the first things I remember thinking about was altitude peg snaps ... Which distracted me from being able to concentrate on the manoeuver itself.
I'll make a note of the steps you advise and have a surrounding fighter handy or being played by an opponent ready to attack. Will hopefully be able to keep track of everything and everyone's height and carry this out successfully
Fit gimbal mounts Barney ! Failing that just take it off the mount and stand it on its nose on the base to signify the dive. This is what we did when I was playing a slightly bigger scale game with another rule set, the name of which escapes me now. Anyway, it needs play testing so have at it and let us know the pros and cons.
Sapiens qui vigilat... "He is wise who watches"
Sorry but I think it would be just as easy to use altitude rulesThat's an interesting question and clearly house ruling the solution is the way to go.
I would suggest that you approach the target and on the appropriate card near it play a stall card to represent the Stuka rolling into the dive.
The next two to three cards I would suggest should be used for the dive bombing - Now as the Stuka can dive very steeply so you can either decide it doesn't move at all, or, you could play two to three short cards (ignoring they are consecutive steeps) to give it a little overground movement dropping the bombs on the second or third card with say one short card to impact.
I would then play a climb card to show the Stuka has pulled out of its dive and if you are of a mind you could say the crew are pulling so much G they cannot fire their weapons on that movement !
To attack the Stuka in the 'dive' element or after the bomb drop then I would suggest that any attacking plane will have to play a dive card to show it has dropped to that level to make the attack.
It's probably more complex than that but this might give you a starting point to play around with.
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