Found on Evilbay

**Guntruck** · 07-23-2015 09:49

A Cant floatplane in 1/200 at a reasonable Buy It Now price

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aereo-Aerona...3D151755424618

and a Caproni Ca.3 in 1/144

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aereo-Aerona...16.m2516.l5255

Anyone seen these before? Googling like a good 'un to see it there are any more in 144 or 200 scale.

Edit: Ah, yes, they do, but only one more in 1/200:

Piaggio P108

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aereo-Aerona...item20f72b52fe

**Naharaht** · 07-23-2015 10:07

I own all of them. They are good models. The Caproni Ca.3 model is more detailed than the Ares ones.

**Prodromoi** · 07-23-2015 11:31

Very interesting find. I've got more Capronis that I really need anyway, so I'm not tempted. Otherwise, I might be!

**Flying Helmut** · 07-23-2015 12:33

I have a couple of the Capronis, and very nice they are too!

**grumpybear** · 07-23-2015 14:56

I have Caproni others look interesting . Thanks for the find

**matt56** · 07-23-2015 16:06

I snagged the Caproni in a local shop, and I'd love to get a couple more! Thanks for posting, Steve!

All the best,
Matt

**gully_raker** · 07-23-2015 21:52

That Cant seaplane is rather sweet!

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 07-24-2015 01:26

I picked the Cant up some months ago.
Just wanting stats and a card for it to get it on the table.
Rob.

**csadn** · 07-24-2015 12:17

Italy did have the best-looking seaplanes.

**Zoe Brain** · 07-24-2015 19:20

Originally Posted by Flying Officer Kyte

I picked the Cant up some months ago.
Just wanting stats and a card for it to get it on the table.
Rob.

OK, working on it.

Cant Z 506B

empty weight - 8,750 kg - (2 x 8.75) + 12 = 30 damage. Bomber base.
Speed - 350 km/h - P deck deleting sideslips, 45' and 60' turns and Immelman, measure from peg .

"The armament consisted of a 12.7 (0.5 inch) Breda-SAFAT machine guns in the dorsal position and three 7.7 mm (0,303 inch) machine guns, one in the ventral position and two on the sides of the fuselage."

**Jager** · 07-26-2015 05:13

Originally Posted by Zoe Brain

OK, working on it.

Cant Z 506B

empty weight - 8,750 kg - (2 x 8.75) + 12 = 30 damage. Bomber base.
Speed - 350 km/h - P deck deleting sideslips, 45' and 60' turns and Immelman, measure from peg .

"The armament consisted of a 12.7 (0.5 inch) Breda-SAFAT machine guns in the dorsal position and three 7.7 mm (0,303 inch) machine guns, one in the ventral position and two on the sides of the fuselage."

Zoe: should there be a few fewer hits due to the weight of the floats not adding to the damage capability of the plane?
Karl

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 07-26-2015 07:34

Zoe you are the swiftest thing since greased lightening. I was going to mention the swiftness of Brain power, but thought better of it.

Thank you so much.

Rob.

**Baxter** · 07-26-2015 14:57

The Piaggio looks like an Italian B17. Wonder how different the stats would be and how effective they were in action.

**csadn** · 07-27-2015 14:54

Originally Posted by Baxter

The Piaggio looks like an Italian B17. Wonder how different the stats would be and how effective they were in action.

Piaggio P108:
Crew: 6 or 7
Length: 22.30 m (73 ft 2 in)
Wingspan: 32.00 m (105 ft)
Height: 6.00 m (20 ft)
Wing area: 135.0 m² (1,453 ft²)
Empty weight: 17,325 kg (38,195 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 29,885 kg (65,885 lb)
Powerplant: 4 × Piaggio P.XII RC.35 radial engine, 1,120 kW (1,500 hp) each

Performance

Maximum speed: 430 km/h (267 mph)
Range: 3,520 km (2,187 mi)
Service ceiling: 8,500 m (27,187 ft)

Armament

5 × 12.7 mm (.5 in) Breda-SAFAT machine guns
2 × 7.7 mm (.303 in) Breda-SAFAT machine guns
3,500 kg (7,700 lb) of bombs

Boeing B-17:

Crew: 10: Pilot, co-pilot, navigator, bombardier/nose gunner, flight engineer/top turret gunner, radio operator, waist gunners (2), ball turret gunner, tail gunner
Length: 74 ft 4 in (22.66 m)
Wingspan: 103 ft 9 in (31.62 m)
Height: 19 ft 1 in (5.82 m)
Wing area: 1,420 sq ft (131.92 m2)
Airfoil: NACA 0018 / NACA 0010
Aspect ratio: 7.57
Empty weight: 36,135 lb (16,391 kg)
Loaded weight: 54,000 lb (24,500 kg)
Max. takeoff weight: 65,500 lb (29,700 kg)
Powerplant: 4 × Wright R-1820-97 "Cyclone" turbosupercharged radial engines, 1,200 hp (895 kW) each

Performance

Maximum speed: 287 mph (249 kn, 462 km/h)
Cruise speed: 182 mph (158 kn, 293 km/h)
Range: 2,000 mi (1,738 nmi, 3,219 km) with 2,700 kg (6,000 lb) bombload
Service ceiling: 35,600 ft (10,850 m)
Rate of climb: 900 ft/min (4.6 m/s)
Wing loading: 38.0 lb/sq ft (185.7 kg/m2)
Power/mass: 0.089 hp/lb (150 W/kg)

Armament

Guns: 13 × .50 in (12.7 mm) M2 Browning machine guns in 8 positions (2 in the Bendix chin turret, 2 on nose cheeks, 2 staggered waist guns, 2 in upper Sperry turret, 2 in Sperry ball turret in belly, 2 in the tail and one firing upwards from radio compartment behind bomb bay)
Bombs:
Short range missions (<400 mi): 8,000 lb (3,600 kg)
Long range missions (≈800 mi): 4,500 lb (2,000 kg)
Overload: 17,600 lb (7,800 kg)

**OldGuy59** · 07-27-2015 15:28

Originally Posted by csadn

Piaggio P108:
Crew: 6 or 7
Length: 22.30 m (73 ft 2 in)
Wingspan: 32.00 m (105 ft)
Height: 6.00 m (20 ft)
Wing area: 135.0 m² (1,453 ft²)
Empty weight: 17,325 kg (38,195 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 29,885 kg (65,885 lb)
Powerplant: 4 × Piaggio P.XII RC.35 radial engine, 1,120 kW (1,500 hp) each

Performance

Maximum speed: 430 km/h (267 mph)
Range: 3,520 km (2,187 mi)
Service ceiling: 8,500 m (27,187 ft)

Armament

5 × 12.7 mm (.5 in) Breda-SAFAT machine guns
2 × 7.7 mm (.303 in) Breda-SAFAT machine guns
3,500 kg (7,700 lb) of bombs

Cards, anyone?
WWII Italian Bombers - Piaggio P.108B
There are two paint schemes in that album for the P.108B

PS: One card is even the same squadron as the model, but my card image is missing the black fuselage band.