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    Nice one Neil.
    Even better results than the real event. I guess that puts the Italian fleet out of the war then.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hedeby View Post
    We spoke about perspex searchlights - I have someone that could produce those for you Neil - just need to know sizes etc.
    I'd be up for some of those if a price could be arranged Chris.
    The pioneering of the system by Neil could be transferred to other actions such as Tirpitz, or the Dams raid.Or, dare I say it, even to anti Zep scenarios.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

  3. #53

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    well done Neil . Looked to be a cracking game for all those involved. Got something similar lined up for Doncaster?


    I'm learning to fly, but I ain't got wings
    Coming down is the hardest thing

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    Oh I will always have something up my sleeve that's different for Doncaster.

    Quote Originally Posted by tikkifriend View Post
    well done Neil . Looked to be a cracking game for all those involved. Got something similar lined up for Doncaster?
    See you on the Dark Side......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skafloc View Post
    Oh I will always have something up my sleeve that's different for Doncaster.
    Looking forward to seeing what that will entail...............

  6. #56

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    I see you're working nightshifts for your Origins AARs, Neil.

    Your Taranto Mission was a full success.

    Like you host it at Doncaster last year, the Mission setup was impressive.

    Well done!
    Voilŕ le soleil d'Austerlitz!

  7. #57

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    Looks like it was a great game. Were these 1/144 Swordfish or 1/200 scale?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobP View Post
    Looks like it was a great game. Were these 1/144 Swordfish or 1/200 scale?
    As Neil will now be off line for a bit, I will answer that one for him if I may. They are 1:200 scale either from Clipper or my own.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Officer Kyte View Post
    Even better results than the real event.
    Not *that* much better:

    Quote Originally Posted by Skafloc View Post
    Summary: 23 Fairey Swordfish (includes 11 re-spawns) and 2 Fairey Fulmers. 11 Fairey Swordfish shot down.

    Italian Ships Sunk:
    BB Littorio 5 TORPEDO HITS AND 1 BOMB HIT
    BB Caio Dulio 3 TORPEDO AND 1 BOMB HIT
    BB Andrea Doria 3 TORPEDO AND 1 BOMB HIT
    CA Pola 3 TORPEDO HITS
    CA Fiume 2 TORPEDO HITS AND 1 BOMB HIT
    DD Carducci 1 TORPEDO HIT
    DD Alfieri 1 TORPEDO HIT
    DD Oriani 1 TORPEDO HIT
    DD Lampo 1 TORPEDO HIT
    DD Baleno 1 TORPEDO HIT

    Italian Ships Damaged:
    BB Conte di Cavour 1 TORPEDO HIT
    BB Giulio Cesare 1 TORPEDO HIT
    CA Goriza 2 TORPEDO HITS (SEVERE DAMAGE)
    CA Bolzano 1 BOMB HIT

    Italian Ships Undamaged:

    BB Vittorio Veneto
    CA Trento
    CA Trieste
    CL Albruzzi
    CL Garabaldi
    DD Gioberti
    In the actual event: 1 BB destroyed (_Conte di Cavour_), 2 BB crippled (_Caio Duilio_; _Littorio_), 1 CA damaged (_Trento_), and 2 DD damaged (_Libeccio_; _Pessagno_); against 2 Swordfish lost. The Italians took many more hits, to be sure; but the British air force got swatted a lot harder as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Officer Kyte View Post
    I'd be up for some of those if a price could be arranged Chris.
    The pioneering of the system by Neil could be transferred to other actions such as Tirpitz, or the Dams raid.Or, dare I say it, even to anti Zep scenarios.
    Rob.
    Neil and I talked about a couple of things that would make this game easier to run and give it more eye candy. On the ease of play/running it front, I was going to make him up some base with numbers etched into them. This would replace the colored dot system he used at Origins. Some of the players had trouble telling the difference between some of the colors (like blue and dark blue). Also, replacing the colors with numbers would make it easier to look and mark things on Neil’s Game Master Sheet.

    To add more eye candy to the searchlights, we talked about me cutting them out of some lightly blue tinted acrylic that I have. When cut, the edges virtually glow blue due to how the light is transmitted though the plastic. The etched damage ratings would also have this glowing appearance to them. I’m going to try and get some cut this week and I can post pics of them if you guys like.

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    Yes, we would like that, Keith, very much. Thanks.

    All solid ideas.
    “You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation.” ― Plato

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    I would certainly be interested to see how they look Keith.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    OOhh they would look good. Can't wait to see the finished article(s).

    Neil

    PS: Your base (numbering) idea was spot on Keith.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberst Hajj View Post
    Neil and I talked about a couple of things that would make this game easier to run and give it more eye candy. On the ease of play/running it front, I was going to make him up some base with numbers etched into them. This would replace the colored dot system he used at Origins. Some of the players had trouble telling the difference between some of the colors (like blue and dark blue). Also, replacing the colors with numbers would make it easier to look and mark things on Neil’s Game Master Sheet.

    To add more eye candy to the searchlights, we talked about me cutting them out of some lightly blue tinted acrylic that I have. When cut, the edges virtually glow blue due to how the light is transmitted though the plastic. The etched damage ratings would also have this glowing appearance to them. I’m going to try and get some cut this week and I can post pics of them if you guys like.
    See you on the Dark Side......

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    Good ideas there, esp the if you are slightly colour blind as I am , shades of blue can be difficult. Well done lads


    I'm learning to fly, but I ain't got wings
    Coming down is the hardest thing

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    fun scenario neil! very interesting concept not facing enemy a/c. ive always been a fan of the unusual scenarios.

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    Thanks for sharing the pics, Philip! What actions!
    <img src=http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=2554&dateline=1409073309 border=0 alt= />
    "We do not stop playing when we get old, but we get old when we stop playing."

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    Lots of great action shots Phillip!

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    Nice shots Phillip! And thanks for taking some of the prize table... I totally forgot about doing that!

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    Wonderful group of photos Phillip!
    Very well done!

  21. #71

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    Phillip, do you do weddings?
    “You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation.” ― Plato

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7eat51 View Post
    Phillip, do you do weddings?
    ABSOLUTELY NOT (what are you proposing...... {sorry couldnt help myself})!!!!!!! ohh, errr...... you , of course mean taking PICTURES of weddings...ummmmm, errr......well i suppose

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    What an astounding coverage of the event Phil.
    Did you actually get time to play any games?
    Thanks for the superb overview.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    It's official. I have withdrawal symptoms. The only remedy is more Origins...I need more. Anybody have any Come on someone must have...pretty please? Ok I'm on my knees begging now...
    See you on the Dark Side......

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    Quite right with the summation of the actual event; however in the real battle the Italians didn't use any searchlights!
    If they had and 190+ AAA they might have shot down a lot more. I know there are many pictures portraying searchlights but honest they didn't use any!




    Quote Originally Posted by csadn View Post
    Not *that* much better:



    In the actual event: 1 BB destroyed (_Conte di Cavour_), 2 BB crippled (_Caio Duilio_; _Littorio_), 1 CA damaged (_Trento_), and 2 DD damaged (_Libeccio_; _Pessagno_); against 2 Swordfish lost. The Italians took many more hits, to be sure; but the British air force got swatted a lot harder as well.
    See you on the Dark Side......

  27. #77

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    Ares' website has a great AAR posted. Here is the link:

    http://www.aresgames.eu/14730

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skafloc View Post
    It's official. I have withdrawal symptoms. The only remedy is more Origins...I need more. Anybody have any Come on someone must have...pretty please? Ok I'm on my knees begging now...
    Fly to O'Hare in Chicago. Be picked up by charming couple of Italian and Chinese extractions. See Chicago - code for a lot of eating. Shop at a used bookstore with a huge selection on military history - huge. Drive to Origins together, stopping along the way for dining and a bit of tourism. Attend Origins. Eat at the food market. Spend a bit more time traveling and eating together before being dropped off at O'Hare for a return flight.
    “You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation.” ― Plato

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    Great Ken is famous again, and we get mentioned in dispatches plus a plug for the site.
    What more could one ask? Don't answer that!
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Eric - you forgot one other activity for the Origins trip routed through Chicago....visit United Center to watch 2015 NHL Champions CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS defend their Stanley Cup title in a playoff game! How could you leave that out of the mix?

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    I stand corrected, Thomas.

    Let's shoot for 4 in 6 years!!!
    “You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation.” ― Plato

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7eat51 View Post
    Fly to O'Hare in Chicago. Be picked up by charming couple of Italian and Chinese extractions. See Chicago - code for a lot of eating. Shop at a used bookstore with a huge selection on military history - huge. Drive to Origins together, stopping along the way for dining and a bit of tourism. Attend Origins. Eat at the food market. Spend a bit more time traveling and eating together before being dropped off at O'Hare for a return flight.
    Been there, done this twice! Awesome! Go for it!

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    Can a slightly crazed Buckeye with a history of giving out BOOM cards, as well as his patient wife, join in this fun?

    Quote Originally Posted by 7eat51 View Post
    Fly to O'Hare in Chicago. Be picked up by charming couple of Italian and Chinese extractions. See Chicago - code for a lot of eating. Shop at a used bookstore with a huge selection on military history - huge. Drive to Origins together, stopping along the way for dining and a bit of tourism. Attend Origins. Eat at the food market. Spend a bit more time traveling and eating together before being dropped off at O'Hare for a return flight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milcoll73 View Post
    finally after much ado ! heres my origins pics
    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/album.php?albumid=3043
    I'll have to spend a couple hours remembering what happened in my games, and adding the comments. Much better pics than I took.
    Thanks Phillip.
    Karl
    It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skafloc View Post
    Quite right with the summation of the actual event; however in the real battle the Italians didn't use any searchlights!
    If they had and 190+ AAA they might have shot down a lot more. I know there are many pictures portraying searchlights but honest they didn't use any!
    Yes -- which is yet another sign of just how skullcrushingly inept the Italians were in WW2.

    Also: Just looking at the game rules, I think the ships are a bit weak on hit-points, unless the Italians ships were so drastically undercrewed they couldn't perform basic damage-control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Officer Kyte View Post
    What an astounding coverage of the event Phil.
    Did you actually get time to play any games?
    Thanks for the superb overview.
    Rob.
    yes, i was in all of the wgf events and 3 wgs plus battle tech plus are you a werewolf plus national decision making something or other........its easy when you just go without sleep.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    I'll have to spend a couple hours remembering what happened in my games, and adding the comments. Much better pics than I took.
    Thanks Phillip.
    Karl
    you are very welcome!!!! thanks for running such fun events

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    it took me a while with some help i finally got my pictures posted http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/album.php?albumid=3441

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    The game was fun not accurate. With 2 hours there's not room for my original set of rules. So at night, most crews ashore or asleep, confusion, noise rec, very little in the way of damage control plus it was something else to slow the pace of the game down. We play tested this 4 times and each time modified the game to what we played at Origins. Now at Doncaster this year we are running OpPedestal with some 20 ships in convoy with an adaption to the Taranto ship rules. Not lon to wait but more along the lines of what you say was missing at Origins. With 3 hours we can do this.

    Quote Originally Posted by csadn View Post
    Yes -- which is yet another sign of just how skullcrushingly inept the Italians were in WW2.

    Also: Just looking at the game rules, I think the ships are a bit weak on hit-points, unless the Italians ships were so drastically undercrewed they couldn't perform basic damage-control.
    See you on the Dark Side......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Kniggit View Post
    it took me a while with some help i finally got my pictures posted http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/album.php?albumid=3441
    Some very nice shots of the action Richard.
    Also of some of the participants.
    Thanks for posting.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Officer Kyte View Post
    Some very nice shots of the action Richard.
    Also of some of the participants.
    Thanks for posting.
    Rob.
    +1

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    Thanks for posting your pictures from Origins, Richard. Lots of good stuff there! And the castle shots at the end are pretty nifty, too!

    All the best,
    Matt

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    Nice pictures, Richard.
    Voilŕ le soleil d'Austerlitz!

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    Just realised Keith...mines bigger than yours
    See you on the Dark Side......

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    Neil, it's not the size of one's banner that matters, but the quality of play it engenders.
    “You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation.” ― Plato

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7eat51 View Post
    Neil, it's not the size of one's banner that matters, but the quality of play it engenders.
    It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus

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    Aye but size has a quality all of its own. Keith should know.....

    Quote Originally Posted by 7eat51 View Post
    Neil, it's not the size of one's banner that matters, but the quality of play it engenders.
    See you on the Dark Side......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skafloc View Post
    Aye but size has a quality all of its own. Keith should know.....
    That's more of a Russian thing, no?
    Karl
    It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus

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    What will the wives think when they read this thread?

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    Is that not quantity? I think I'll quite whilst I am still in the land of the living......

    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    That's more of a Russian thing, no?
    Karl
    See you on the Dark Side......

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