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Thread: Holy Moley - Staaken and Handley Page are coming on Kickstarter

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    Default Holy Moley - Staaken and Handley Page are coming on Kickstarter

    Yes, it's true - check out the announcement on the Ares page!

    http://www.aresgames.eu/14159
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    My sentiments exactly.

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    And there was me saying I would never support a Kickstarter Project again!

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    I'm sure I'll be able to follow your lead, James! I would especially like some of the 0/400s...

    All the best,
    Matt

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    This is brilliant! I can't wait!

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    I'm wondering what the stretch goals would be.... ARES how about a "no mans land" play mat strip???!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FarEast View Post
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    Three words, folks: "_Sails of Glory_".

    No chance in hell of seeing these before 2017.

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    I would think they'd be able to sell the bejeebies out of an NML playing mat, if that were a stretch goal...I could see myself buying at least two of 'em.

    All the best,
    Matt

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    Quote Originally Posted by FarEast View Post
    I'm wondering what the stretch goals would be.... ARES how about a "no mans land" play mat strip???!!


    Quote Originally Posted by csadn View Post
    Three words, folks: "_Sails of Glory_".

    No chance in hell of seeing these before 2017.
    And no chance in hell of seeing them at all if the KS is not support. You can decide which way you want to go.

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    Oh man oh man oh man
    So excited for these granted they aren't ridiculously expensive and will come out soon enough. For those of us who picture better when numbers are given, what are the estimated dimensions for these bombers? The Ares pictures next to a Dr.1 aren't helping much.

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    Also excited about potential stretch goals... And in terms of how long it will take for production, if they already have the pre production models made for the promo... from memory the minis are often out that same year... does anyone recall the general time frame once they are done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FarEast View Post
    I'm wondering what the stretch goals would be.... ARES how about a "no mans land" play mat strip???!!
    Hear,hear.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    if a Fokker is 2 inches in wingspan... the Zep is about 16 inches in wingspan.....

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    According to the other thread John at 1/144 scale the measurements should be:
    The Zeppelin Straaken: wingspan 291mm, length 152mm (approx 11.5" x 6")
    Handley Page 0/400: wingspan 200mm, length 139mm (approx 8" x 5.5")

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Oh my.
    Two at once may be too much, but that's going to be very tempting indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberst Hajj View Post
    And no chance in hell of seeing them at all if the KS is not support. You can decide which way you want to go.
    [snort] If I want one on-time and under-budget, I can order one from Clipper.

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    What kind of stretch goals do you guys think they will have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FarEast View Post
    I spoke to God and he listened.....

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    I thought I would push my luck a little

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    Quote Originally Posted by FarEast View Post
    I'm wondering what the stretch goals would be.... ARES how about a "no mans land" play mat strip???!!
    A battlefield map would be good, maybe a proper city map too?

    How many mats does one of these monsters assume you are playing on - what's the minimum fun play area?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSpy View Post
    A battlefield map would be good, maybe a proper city map too?

    How many mats does one of these monsters assume you are playing on - what's the minimum fun play area?
    The double mat long ways on is enough John.
    If you can fly on from one end bomb the town at the other and get off again at your end with two or three night fighter Biffs attacking you you are doing well.
    Remember too that the most Staakens to ever attack London was two backed up by Gothas.
    The HPs over Germany are a different kettle of fish entirely, going in as a flight will crowd the table and i'd suggest four mats in the normal side by side configuration for those games.
    Rob.
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    if I ever get off my butt and finish my map.... it'll be plenty big enough. I'm so close I can feel it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by csadn View Post
    [snort] If I want one on-time and under-budget, I can order one from Clipper.
    And have you ordered one from Clipper?

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    I wonder what the price will based on the Gotha and balloon prices we might be looking at £50+ for the RV1.

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    For those interested in the Handley Page O/400, I found this yet-to-be-released title on Amazon (UK): http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bloody-Paral.../dp/1781550808

    Not available for pre-order, yet, but tentatively scheduled for 31 July.

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    From what they said, it will tax their resources. How do you suppose this will affect the schedule of the WGF 9 and WGS 6 & 7 releases mentioned on this home page?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caveman View Post
    From what they said, it will tax their resources. How do you suppose this will affect the schedule of the WGF 9 and WGS 6 & 7 releases mentioned on this home page?
    The Giants are not going to really impact the current schedule at all. The whole reason behind doing these as a KS is so that it does not soak up their capital and delay/effect the other product lines. If the KS is successful, it will give them the cash needed to produce these up front, so they are not out any monies besides what they have already invested in the prototypes.

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    I can't say much from the Behind The Scenes discussion, but I am comfortable saying that lessons have been learned and steps taken, some of which I suggested , to help address and mitigate the problems encountered in past Kickstarters. I have confidence this one will go smoother than SGN did...

    Herr Oberst, have trays for these monsters up your sleeve perchance?

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    That is good news. Excuse my ignorance, but what does it mean to be a "Kickstarter" and how is that different from the normal process?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caveman View Post
    That is good news. Excuse my ignorance, but what does it mean to be a "Kickstarter" and how is that different from the normal process?
    this will explain exactly what Kickstarter is:

    https://www.kickstarter.com/hello

    I hope this project meets its funding, the reason why is because if this is successful it could mean a new avenue for ARES to release miniatures through, especially more unique or specialist aircraft. I wouldn't be surprised that if this is successful we'll see the Balloon Busters released in the same manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    I can't say much from the Behind The Scenes discussion, but I am comfortable saying that lessons have been learned and steps taken, some of which I suggested , to help address and mitigate the problems encountered in past Kickstarters. I have confidence this one will go smoother than SGN did...
    That would be nice.

    I thought I noticed some new dents in your cluex4....

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    Actually, the combo of diplomacy and strategic timing went a long way. A little Star Trek Wisdom in memory of Mr. Nimoy helped too... but that story's for after the planes are delivered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    Actually, the combo of diplomacy and strategic timing went a long way. A little Star Trek Wisdom in memory of Mr. Nimoy helped too... but that story's for after the planes are delivered.
    Diplomacy? Did you slot a new skillsoft chip there DB?
    Karl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    Herr Oberst, have trays for these monsters up your sleeve perchance?
    Not at this point as I don't have a mini of either to work from. They will definitely be in the works though. If anyone wants to send me a build model kit or Shapeways version of them, I could get started sooner. lol

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    Do we know what the min/max outlay will be and what we would get for min/max payment yet?
    See you on the Dark Side......

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    Not until they release the whole Kickstarter information later this month Neil.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    Diplomacy? Did you slot a new skillsoft chip there DB?
    Karl
    Like I said... I'll tell it when either we all have planes in shipping with tracking numbers in hand, or Ares releases NDA, whichever comes first. Let's just say French does the Bad Cop role EXTREMELY well when I need to cite a harsh critic's statements... LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    Like I said... I'll tell it when either we all have planes in shipping with tracking numbers in hand, or Ares releases NDA, whichever comes first. Let's just say French does the Bad Cop role EXTREMELY well when I need to cite a harsh critic's statements... LOL
    You know, we'll hold you for the full story, when allowed
    Karl
    It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus

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    James, Ares has had reservations about overuse of Kickstarter in the past with good reason--every time you get a direct-to-consumer sale, that's one less sale at Brick & Mortar or e-tail, which means less profits for them and less sale at the Distros, which in turn means less profits for them too. So they tend to react to manufacturers opening direct-sale channels, even limited ones like KS's, as if somebody was physically stealing from them and black-ball crowdfunded producers...

    "The only thing a Capitalist hates more than a Communist is a Competitor."

    There's more here too, but that too shall have to wait for a more appropriate time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    You know, we'll hold you for the full story, when allowed :slysmile:
    Karl
    Damned right -- I want to know what part I had to play in all this.... >;)

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    Guys I think you're all forgetting something IT HAS TO REACH ITS FUNDING GOAL FIRST and the only way for it to do that is if everyman and woman does their duty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberst Hajj View Post
    Not at this point as I don't have a mini of either to work from. They will definitely be in the works though. If anyone wants to send me a build model kit or Shapeways version of them, I could get started sooner. lol
    Keith, if my memory serves me right, I ordered those 2 from Shapeways when it was first produced...I'll have to dig around in my basement, but if I have them, I can send them to you for measurements.

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    That would be really cool Mike. I would of course return them to you.

    If anyone has a model or SW print of one of these handy, can you tell me how deep a tray would need to be for it? Will a 2" or 2.5" be deep enough, or would we have to go all the way to a 3" tray?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberst Hajj View Post
    That would be really cool Mike. I would of course return them to you.

    If anyone has a model or SW print of one of these handy, can you tell me how deep a tray would need to be for it? Will a 2" or 2.5" be deep enough, or would we have to go all the way to a 3" tray?
    Keith, PM your snail mail address.

    I am thinking 2" could work, but I need to dig them out. 3'' would be over kill for those.

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    OK, finally found the 2 planes....man I have way too much gaming stuff buried down there

    looks like a 2" tray would work, in the foreground is the Zeppelin and in the background is the Handley-Page, the tray to the left is a 2.5" tray

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    I'll get them in the USPS this weekend for ya
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    Thanks. The tail needs to be on the ground to get the height that I need... but since you are sending them to me, I'll be able to test them in a 2" tray Thanks again.

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    It's TODAY!!!!

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    What time? I've been refreshing kickstarter all day... its 9pm on the 10th here in Oz.

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    03:00 pm CET

    So it's 01:00 am 11. March 2015 your Australian time.
    Voilą le soleil d'Austerlitz!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marechallannes View Post
    03:00 pm CET

    So it's 01:00 am 11. March 2015 your Australian time.
    Correct. Not that I'll be waiting up or anything....



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