Un-escorted trip

**CappyTom** · 02-15-2015 16:54

I tried one of my scenarios today. Using the B-17s.

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This was the setup. The Japanese were located on the island that the bombers were going to be flying over.

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Here's a shot with the new props Keith's and mine. They look great.

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Just before the action started.

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Lilly and Phillip took down the first bomber. Boom Ouch!

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More shots of the bomber going down.

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Two turns later the bomber box regrouped and shot down one of the Japanese. Carter went down. Two cards later he was in a new plane.

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As the bombers keep taking hits they get lucky and boom Phillip goes down. But then again two cards later he's back in the air.

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First Phillip took out the tail-gunner then Rachel took down the plane.

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Then Phillip went down one more time.
I think I got it right. Phillip will correct me if I missed anything.
Great game today guys and gals. Thank you all for coming.

Thomas

**gully_raker** · 02-15-2015 17:52

Good one Thomas!
Love that mat & the Bomber Box looks superb!

**Blauer Baron** · 02-16-2015 04:14

Thanks for sharing the game with us. The bombers look a tight nut to crack! Suprised two went down!

**Marechallannes** · 02-16-2015 05:03

Great AAR Tom.

Like posted in your Album: The US boys send 7 B-17s and a Pizza into the battle.

The formation is hughe enough to send the Ki-61-I-KAId AD/BDD (Chuichi Ichikawa) in.

As the gentleman you are, you gave it to the girl (and let Phillip do the hard work with the Zeros

)

Greetings to the Ada flight

**fast.git** · 02-16-2015 05:26

Quite the collection of B-17s. Very nice.

**Nightbomber** · 02-16-2015 05:42

Great game event, Thomas! Thanks for the pics. I can see the "Bomber Player" had an easy time pushing the 6 bases together

Just one maneuver card and it goes smoothly.

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 02-16-2015 06:25

I think we can all learn a lot from that mission.
That's obviously the way to handle a bunch of bombers with only a handful of players.
Those German Dams had better get their defences beefed up a lot.
Rob.

**Oberst Hajj** · 02-16-2015 07:05

Nice one Tom. You running this at O?

**Naharaht** · 02-16-2015 12:05

Thank you for that AAR, Thomas. The bomber box looks truly formidable and intimidating and yet, as you showed, it is vulnerable.

nagual2000 · 02-16-2015 13:00

Carter and I had a great time playing thru the scenario. In formation the b17s are tough. Makes you appreciate what those fighter pilots were up against.

**CappyTom** · 02-16-2015 13:23

Originally Posted by Marechallannes

Great AAR Tom.

Like posted in your Album: The US boys send 7 B-17s and a Pizza into the battle.

The formation is hughe enough to send the Ki-61-I-KAId AD/BDD (Chuichi Ichikawa) in.

As the gentleman you are, you gave it to the girl (and let Phillip do the hard work with the Zeros

)

Greetings to the Ada flight

That's what I did. Gave everyone the guns Ki-61-I-KAId AD/BDD had. Evening the playing field. The 1st bomber caught a Boom card. The rest went down on points.

Thomas

**CappyTom** · 02-16-2015 13:24

Originally Posted by Oberst Hajj

Nice one Tom. You running this at O?

Yep one of my bomber runs.

**CappyTom** · 02-16-2015 13:24

Originally Posted by nagual2000

Carter and I had a great time playing thru the scenario. In formation the b17s are tough. Makes you appreciate what those fighter pilots were up against.

Glad you guys came. We have to get a game at the Cask Room soon too.

**CappyTom** · 02-16-2015 13:25

Originally Posted by Naharaht

Thank you for that AAR, Thomas. The bomber box looks truly formidable and intimidating and yet, as you showed, it is vulnerable.

They look tough but when you get swarmed it starts hitting crew and the damage starts racking up.

**CappyTom** · 02-16-2015 13:27

Originally Posted by Flying Officer Kyte

I think we can all learn a lot from that mission.
That's obviously the way to handle a bunch of bombers with only a handful of players.
Those German Dams had better get their defences beefed up a lot.
Rob.

Thanks Rob. Soon I will be getting a bunch of those British Bomber and boom another scenario.

Thomas

**CappyTom** · 02-16-2015 13:28

Originally Posted by Nightbomber

Great game event, Thomas! Thanks for the pics. I can see the "Bomber Player" had an easy time pushing the 6 bases together

Just one maneuver card and it goes smoothly.

Yeah plus I had to keep track of the scoring for points and those getting shot down. Fun game all the way around.

**CappyTom** · 02-16-2015 13:29

Originally Posted by fast.git

Quite the collection of B-17s. Very nice.

Thank you Christopher.

**BobP** · 02-16-2015 14:19

Great report along with the photos. Thanks.

**CappyTom** · 02-16-2015 15:06

Originally Posted by BobP

Great report along with the photos. Thanks.

Thanks Bob.

**CappyTom** · 02-16-2015 15:14

Started out with 7 Bombers and ended with 5. This would have been worse had time not run out. The scenario lasted 1 hour 45 minutes. The total mission was for the bombers to fly off the mat, at slow speed, then turn around and come back on the mat with all the players / Pilots in new undamaged planes. Coming back after they dropped their bombs. They would be going at high speed on the return trip. This was a timed trial. And I think it went well and everyone had fun.

Thomas

**CappyTom** · 02-16-2015 15:16

They just made it to the island when time ran out.

**grumpybear** · 02-16-2015 15:54

Enjoyed your AAR . Looks like great fun

**diceslinger** · 02-16-2015 16:17

Cool stuff! I just got done reading "The Wrong Stuff" and it is all about B-17s in formation, it has me all over the new bombers. This was a great visual! Thanks!

**BobP** · 02-17-2015 13:09

Tom,

How do run the bombers? In the game Rich ran we used two different movements types. If you use the base like the fighters the bombers move very fast. By this I mean if you go from the front to the arrow they move fast. If you go from the front mark to the speed mark they are slow. What do you think and hope you understand what I mean.

**richard m schwab** · 02-17-2015 13:44

Tom

A very impressive set up. I love the bomber formation. I recommend you start the bombers closer to the objective. Bob ii correct how did you move the bombers? With those oversize bases they will out run the fighters. Using the edge of card to printed line, even at slow they are to fast. Did you use the slow speed and full bomb load idea?

Rich

**Dowters** · 02-17-2015 13:51

Looks like great fun and great pics. Cheers

**milcoll73** · 02-17-2015 14:54

Originally Posted by CappyTom

I tried one of my scenarios today. Using the B-17s.

This was the setup. The Japanese were located on the island that the bombers were going to be flying over.

Here's a shot with the new props Keith's and mine. They look great.

Just before the action started.

Lilly and Phillip took down the first bomber. Boom Ouch!

More shots of the bomber going down.

Two turns later the bomber box regrouped and shot down one of the Japanese. Carter went down. Two cards later he was in a new plane.

As the bombers keep taking hits they get lucky and boom Phillip goes down. But then again two cards later he's back in the air.

First Phillip took out the tail-gunner then Rachel took down the plane.

Then Phillip went down one more time.
I think I got it right. Phillip will correct me if I missed anything.
Great game today guys and gals. Thank you all for coming.

Thomas

yep thats the gist of it. i sacrificed my self for the glory of the emperor twice but at least we knocked down 2 of the imperialist yankee b17s BAAAAANNNNNZZZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**milcoll73** · 02-17-2015 14:55

Originally Posted by Marechallannes

Great AAR Tom.

Like posted in your Album: The US boys send 7 B-17s and a Pizza into the battle.

The formation is hughe enough to send the Ki-61-I-KAId AD/BDD (Chuichi Ichikawa) in.

As the gentleman you are, you gave it to the girl (and let Phillip do the hard work with the Zeros

)

Greetings to the Ada flight

**milcoll73** · 02-17-2015 14:58

Originally Posted by Naharaht

Thank you for that AAR, Thomas. The bomber box looks truly formidable and intimidating and yet, as you showed, it is vulnerable.

id say it was more luck and sacrificing planes to inflict damage. straying too close to the formation really adds up the damage quickly. i went from undamaged to dead in just 2 maneuver cards.

**CappyTom** · 02-17-2015 22:53

Originally Posted by BobP

Tom,

How do run the bombers? In the game Rich ran we used two different movements types. If you use the base like the fighters the bombers move very fast. By this I mean if you go from the front to the arrow they move fast. If you go from the front mark to the speed mark they are slow. What do you think and hope you understand what I mean.

I moved them from the front to the blue dot as the arrow. This slowed them down. In this scenario I used the bombers as a target to last 2 hours.

**CappyTom** · 02-17-2015 22:56

Originally Posted by richard m schwab

Tom

A very impressive set up. I love the bomber formation. I recommend you start the bombers closer to the objective. Bob ii correct how did you move the bombers? With those oversize bases they will out run the fighters. Using the edge of card to printed line, even at slow they are to fast. Did you use the slow speed and full bomb load idea?

Rich

I did use the slow speed for the trip there and would have used high speed for the trip back. I moved them using the blue dot as the arrow in the back of the bomber stand. This slowed the bombers down so as not to out run the fighters.

Thomas

**Gotham Resident** · 02-18-2015 11:15

Quite a battle! That's very good, definitely imposing to see all those bombers together, i'd be leery to take it on.

**Warhawk** · 02-18-2015 11:17

Originally Posted by Gotham Resident

Quite a battle! That's very good, definitely imposing to see all those bombers together, i'd be leery to take it on.

Yes, I just got a B-17 last night and was looking at all the firing arcs. Taking on one seems to be difficult, I can't imagine 7. Looking forward to playing mine on the table.

**richard m schwab** · 02-18-2015 18:35

Wes

Stay at long range from them. Take out the most exposed first. Do not make a head on pass. These are things we learned last year. Here is a link from a game we played last year.

Rich

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...er-2014-game-2