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    Default Any good resources on 6./ZG 1 "Wespen" ?

    Do any of you guys know of any good resources for information on the planes and missions flown by the 6./ZG 1 "Wespen"? I'm looking for info mainly on Bf 110 operations to make some scenarios out of. Any additional info on the different 109 or 190 units that were part of the Wespen would be nice as well.

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    The only thing I have found so far Keith is this on Wikki.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zerst%C3%B6rergeschwader_1

    Plenty of pictures of Wespen but very little firm info so far.
    Not much more use I'm afraid, but you may find this of interest.

    http://falkeeins.blogspot.co.uk/2012...10-e-zg-1.html

    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    I think this might be useful: http://www.ww2.dk/air/zerstorer/zg1.htm

    Two pics (one I posted before)

    Attachment 150015

    Its from rOEN911.
    Thanks


    Nick
    Last edited by Barkmann; 11-05-2014 at 15:27.

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    Thanks Rob, I had found both of those before.

    Nick, that link is new and look interesting, thanks for that! Those two images I've seen as well... and me likes!

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    I have no literature about it and searched amazon for a proper German book.

    Without success, Herr Oberst.

    Found something in German:

    http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/...hwader/ZG1.htm

    http://www.ww2.dk/air/zerstorer/zg1.htm

    There is an Osprey book:

    Messerschmitt BF 110 Zerstörer Aces of WW II
    Last edited by Marechallannes; 11-08-2014 at 11:03.
    Voilà le soleil d'Austerlitz!

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    A total of at least seven major revisions of the Bf 110C existed. The Bf 110C was the first Bf 110 to see widespread combat and enjoyed some success in the Polish and French campaigns.

    The Bf 110 Zerstörerwaffe (Destroyer Force) saw considerable action during operation Operation Weserübung the invasion of Denmark and Norway. Two Zerstörergeschwader (1 and 76) were committed with 64 aircraft. The Bf 110 destroyed 25 Danish military aircraft stationed on the Værløse airbase on 9 April through ground strafing. One Danish Fokker D.XXI did manage to get airborne but was immediately shot down. During this campaign, Victor Mölders, brother of the famous Werner Mölders, took the official surrender of the town of Aalborg after landing at the local airfield. Dressed in flying gear, he was given a lift into the town centre by a milkman to find suitable quarters for I.ZG 1's Bf 110 crews.
    In Norway the Bf 110s helped secure the Oslo-Fornebu airport, escorting Junkers Ju 52 transports loaded with paratroops (Fallschirmjäger). The Germans were engaged by several Gloster Gladiators and machine guns manned by troops on the ground; in the ensuing battle both sides lost two aircraft.The Messerschmitt pilots did not know that many earlier waves of transports had turned back and the airport was unsecured. Landing their cargoes, many transports were destroyed. The remaining Bf 110s strafed the airfield and helped the ground troops take the airfield; the air support provided by the Zerstörer was instrumental, and it was to perform well as a fighter-bomber in the coming campaigns. During these battles, a future 110-kill Luftwaffe ace, Helmut Lent, scored his fifth and sixth victories against Norwegian opposition.
    With experience fighting in Norway, efforts were made to extend the combat range of the Bf 110; these became the Bf 110D Long Range (Langstrecken) Zerstörer. Several different external fuel tanks, in the shape of 900 litre underwing-mounted and 1050-litre centerline ventral fuel tanks, resulted in no less than four versions of the Bf 110D, including the enormous Dackelbauch tank, which owing to cold weather and limited knowledge of fuel vapours, sometimes exploded, leading to unexplained losses during the North Sea patrols. As a result, the aircrews came to dislike this version. The handling characteristics were also affected; the Bf 110 was not maneuverable to begin with and the added weight made it worse.
    Luckily the Zerstörerwaffe encountered mostly British bombers, and it performed well. On 13 June 1940, eight Skua dive-bombers were shot down in as many minutes; among the victors was Herbert Schob who survived the war as one of the most successful Bf 110 pilots. Total losses during this campaign amounted to only 20.
    The campaign in the west that followed in 1940 demonstrated the Bf 110 was vulnerable in hostile skies. It performed well against the Belgian, Dutch and French Air Forces, suffering relatively light losses, but was quickly outclassed by increasing numbers of Hurricanes and Spitfires. In the Western Campaign, 60 were lost.

    When used in the Battle of Britain, 110 units suffered very high losses and were quickly pulled from escort duty and turned into fighter bombers and fast reconnaissance aircraft. In other theaters, where the opposition wasn't as strong, the 110 did well and finally found its niche as a night fighter, but that is another story.

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    http://falkeeins.blogspot.co.uk/2014...eschwader.html
    http://falkeeins.blogspot.co.uk/2010...-jabo-sub.html
    http://www.largescaleplanes.com/arti...le.php?aid=554
    http://z9.invisionfree.com/III_JG76/ar/t104.htm

    Hope this helps.
    See you on the Dark Side......

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    This info you have there is priceless Neil. Thanks for sharing! Its very good to know a little bit more about this unit and the use of Bf-110s.
    Thanks


    Nick

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    This intel will be very usefull. Keep the pictures coming!

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    Thanks Nicolas. That looks like a digital version of a Squadron book??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberst Hajj View Post
    Thanks Nicolas. That looks like a digital version of a Squadron book??
    Its an app called WWII Weapons, where you can find 40 planes, ships and tanks of Great Britain, US, Italy and France, Germany, USSR and Japan. So the creators only decided to put the Bf110 with the Wespen scheme.
    Thanks


    Nick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marechallannes View Post
    There is an Osprey book:
    Messerschmitt BF 110 Zerstörer Aces of WW II
    If anyone is interested in this book, I have it in my bag

    Mau



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