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    Default Official Handley Page Hampden Painting Thread

    One of my all-time favorites, the H.P. Hampden. Pictures are of the Armaments in Miniature, 1/200 scale, H.P. Hampden.

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    Woow woww oww. Now you got my attention! Hampdens!!!!!!!! Yea!!! I love them! Cant give you more REP though.
    Thanks


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    Great paint work again !

    "He is wise who watches"

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    If only they had been used in Malta I could justify getting a couple of those.
    Another great advert for your own skills and those of AIM as well Kev.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Wasn't this plane nicknamed the 'Flying Coffin' as its body was so narrow that if a crew member was injured nobody could get to him to give first aid until the plane landed.

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    The Hampden was much more successful when they took it off daylight operations in favour of night raids, bombing, mine laying and long range torpedo bombing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TALLY HO View Post
    Wasn't this plane nicknamed the 'Flying Coffin' as its body was so narrow that if a crew member was injured nobody could get to him to give first aid until the plane landed.
    The "Flying Coffin" was the AW Whitley, so called because it was complete crap. The Hampden was generally referred to as the "Flying Suitcase"

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Manley View Post
    The "Flying Coffin" was the AW Whitley, so called because it was complete crap. The Hampden was generally referred to as the "Flying Suitcase"
    The AW Whitley was obsolete by the start of the war, yet over 1,000 more were produced before a suitable replacement was found.
    It was useful enough that it was not retired from service until 1945.
    See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armstro...tworth_Whitley

    12 AW Whitley's were used to carry British paratroops on the immensely successful raid to capture parts of a German radar station at Bruneval in 1942.
    See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Biting

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    Hi Any one got stats for these? I have two on my workbench

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Manley View Post
    The "Flying Coffin" was the AW Whitley, so called because it was complete crap. The Hampden was generally referred to as the "Flying Suitcase"
    I showed a DVD to a former Halifax navigator, a Yorkshireman, and when some Hampdens appeared on the screen he laughed and said "Bloody 'ell, flying coffins!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnbiggles View Post
    Hi Any one got stats for these? I have two on my workbench
    Zoe will no doubt be able to pull another rabbit out of her hat john.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    My two Hampdens,
    AIM resin models and decals
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    Lest we forget

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    Has anyone had a chance to make aircraft cards for the Hampden? They look like they were equipped like a Dornier D17 with presumably similar arcs of fire etc. I did not find anything in the Files section.

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    Another plea for Aircraft Cards for the old Hampden! I am also working on a flight of 3 of these nice AIM models but stuck for cards. Help please!

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    Michael, I've looked into the files on the Drome and in the albums of all those I know have custom card collections, but I haven't found one example for the Hampden I'm afraid. You might like to request one from Mike Owen "OldGuy59". He may be able to help out if you can provide him with a) a plan image of the Hampden; b) a colour scheme and c) some authentic crew names. He's very good but may also be very busy right now. You could try to pm him.

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    Thanks Mike, I'll try that

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    If you need a top down of a Hampden I may be able to help.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    XA maneuver deck, 24 damage points. And some guns, I suspect.
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Do you need a camo scheme Mike?

    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Officer Kyte View Post
    If you need a top down of a Hampden I may be able to help.
    Rob.
    Yes please! That would be great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Officer Kyte View Post
    Do you need a camo scheme Mike?

    Rob.
    Yes, a top down camo would be brilliant.

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    Nearly midnight here.
    I will look you out one in the morning Mike.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGuy59 View Post
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    XA maneuver deck, 24 damage points. And some guns, I suspect.
    Thanks Old Guy, yes exactly what I need. Plus climb rate, etc. Wickipedia shows :

    1 × fixed forward firing .303 in (7.7 mm) M1919 Browning machine gun in nose
    3–5 Vickers K machine guns: one flexibly mounted in the nose, one or two each in dorsal and ventral positions

    Bombs: 4,000 lb (1,814 kg) bombs or 1 × 18 in (457 mm) torpedo or mines

    Maximum speed: 247 mph (215 knots, 397 km/h) at 13,800 ft (4,210 m)
    Cruise speed: 206 mph (179 knots, 332 km/h) at 15,000 ft (4,580 m)
    Range: 1,720 mi (1,496 nmi, 2,768 km) (Max fuel and 2,000 lb (910 kg) bombs, 206 mph (332 km/h))
    Service ceiling: 19,000 ft (5,790 m)
    Rate of climb: 980 ft/min[41] (300 m/min)

    Now, if you could help me put that into card form, we have a winner! Many thanks to all who contributed.

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    I found this image from a plate of the 14 OTU.
    Credits:Artist: © Zbynek Valka
    Source: "Handley Page Hampden" Bilek Modelarum No.5; (c) Bilek, Konevova 223, 130 00 Praha 3 Czech Republic
    I don't know if I'm allowed to use it and will remove if not.

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    Here are the two patterns of Camo for bombers of the period 1940/41 to back up Michael's picture plus a couple of elevations. Looks like the B scheme on Mike's.

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    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Looks like I'll have to do one of each version, based on the planes posted above.

    Squadrons indicated above by squadron code decals, and location(s) while flying Hampdens:

    QR - No. 61 Sqn, RAF Hemswell, '37-'41

    ZN - No. 106 Sqn,
    RAF Thornaby: Sept '38 - Aug '39
    RAF Evanton: Aug '39 - Sept '39 Detached here in Aug 1939 and moved, early in Sep 1939
    RAF Cottesmore: Sept '39 - Oct '39
    RAF Finningley: Oct '39 - Feb '41
    RAF Coningsby: Feb '41 - Sept '42

    Any idea of aircrews?
    Last edited by OldGuy59; 12-19-2018 at 08:24.
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Sorry Mike.
    Never appoint Aircrews to mine unless a special mission.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    A pub crawl throught the Museum library netted me a better line drawing, at 600 dpi.

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    This is the "A" scheme.

    Crews could be listed as "Unknown". I couldn't find any Hampden crews from the above squadrons that would fit, either.
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    This is a fine drawing.

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    How do you feel about something like this:
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    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Brilliant! Thank you Sir. Also a very nice addition to the card archive.

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    Love those ugly planes. Ii think they had a crew of 4. Is there a crew management card? Who fired what machine gun?

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    Another fine example of your art sir.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Sorry, Real Life keeps intruding in my production process.

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    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    And the B-Scheme plane:

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    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    "Cannot swap positions as there was no room to do so!" I think those crewmen were heroes just to fly in that thing. Talk about claustrophobic

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    I agree Baxter. Rear gunner in any aircraft of WW2 must have needed a very special type of bravery, Even those turrets that you could get out of very often trapped you or you got shot up, and if you did exit O.K. you still had to don your parachute before you exited the plane.

    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."



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