yes for sure, the two non-Comic versions.
The two-seater was the standard form of the 1 1/2 Strutter. The single seater bomber and the comic night-fighter were specialized versions.
Very interesting. I would have never guessed the single seat would have came out before the 2 seater. It really does not matter I'm hooked.
I hope one of them will be French.
It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus
Short Version: Ares Screws Up Again.
I wonder if they could have made the two seat version for two models then popped in a blanking piece over one cockpit opening to make the fuselage a single seat format, adding the angled guns as required.
Yet another classic example of ARES utterly bizarre thinking that seems to make little commercial sense.
yup! the single seat version of the 1 1/2 is disappointing
I don't understand this tendency to produce minis of rare birds when when we still lack some of the most commonly used planes
Additionally, two-seat 1 1/2 would had been a nice counter part to the also two-seater Albatross C.III
There really is no pleasing us
I'm kind of shocked as well. The classic strutter is the two seater. I have never compared blueprints, but I believe the single version kept one seat in the same position, and faired over the other? As stated, it would seem simple to produce a plug to cover one of the cockpits so we could have both 2 seat and single seat versions in one set. They do it for the guns after all.
I'm not that familiar with the Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter, but I think I'll mainly use them for British home defense.
Maybe the idea was to fight the upcoming Staakens or Zeppelins over England.
Voilą le soleil d'Austerlitz!
You can always get a 2 seat Strutter via Shapeways. They were a popular aircraft with the RNAS & French.
Here is mine.
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The 1.5 strutter spent a lot of time in it's many formats, to release the fighters first I would say is a mistake for us, maybe not so for ares, it would be nice to be privy to their descision making process. It was the staple workhorse bomber for both British air forces and has been mentioned the French loved it also. Just my two penneth, I'm off to a "Galaxy a long time ago far,far away...
I'm sure this was the major driving factor behind us getting the single seat version first. They are developing the releases with an eye towards adding the most value across the entire range. The home defense model greatly expands the play option with the coming Giants and gives us an early war fighter/bomber. Had they given us the tw seat version first, the only thing we would have got was another two seater for an earlier time period (even if it was an iconic one). The scenario/missions we could play would not have changed much at all besides the years they took place in.
And with our complaints of how they mess up little details (wings to thick, etc.), would we really have wanted them to tried just plugging one of the holes to get teh single seater?? lol
Actually, we could use a two-seater base and card with a single seated plane, as the airframe dimensions are exactly the same.
It may loose a bit of visual appeal, but if all players agree to the substitution, I could see using the same plane for both configurations. Perhaps not the best solution, but workable for my gaming table.
PS: Especially if I'm using substitutions for other planes, as suggested in this thread: General Overview of WWI Miniatures - Timeline and Theaters - 2014
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Mike
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Except we're going to have that anyway.... The bomber has the front cockpit only, and the rear one faired over, but for the Comic the front cockpit was faired over and the pilot in the rear cockpit, as he wouldn't be able to access the guns if the forward cockpit position was used....
More additions are always welcome, but we're not badly off for Strutters - Kampfflieger and Decapod both do them, so be aware you're probably not looking at a hot seller there.
I will prabably buy one or two as long as they look good.
I will get them all even though I have 6 Shapeways painted. How can you resist new planes?
Okay, I just had a chat with Roberto and here is what we are getting in Series 9 as concerns the 1 1/2 Strutter:
So much like the Mayan calendar, the fear of Doomsday was unjustified here as well. lolin this release, we'll have the two seat version (two styles) and the "Comic fighter" version (one seat to the rear).
For more, please tune into the Anchorage where discussions about what should be included in upcoming waves will never disappoint.
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Anyway its great news that we are getting both 2 seat & Comic versions.
That makes much more sense - thanks for clarifying the point with Roberto Keith. Noduff !...in this release, we'll have the two seat version (two styles) and the "Comic fighter" version.
My fault. A problem of memory, not of communication. The bulk of the discussion with Ares about the Strutter and its three versions has been back in 2012. Then we spoke about in again in 2013. Last checks have been in summer 2014 - after that it has been more a production process that I see partially and from far away. In the meantime I had my head on a few more series for WW2 and WW2, Sails' ships, heavy bomber, Kickstarter, optional rules... Ok, I had other thoughts and then I was rusty on that matter - when in this thread I read that the released versions were 1-seater and Comic I took it for true without checking. Sorry for that.
In any case I confirm that all three versions were in the plans, and should be eventually released.
Good luck with that when you fly anywhere in Europe - those clouds that so regularly fill the sky have a certain water content
Getting back on topic - it seems I'm the only one a bit disappointed we are not getting the single seat light bomber version of the Strutter - ah well, there's always Shapeways
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can I ask a stupid question, is the numbering of these series spanning both wars? I have an excel sheet that I copied and pasted names and some pics from a sticky here ( I thought), and I have
S1 the one with the Fokker DR1
S2 the one with the Spad XIII
S3 the one with the Hanriot HD1
S4 the one with the Spad SVII
then I have a tab called "new" haha
but it has 8 planes, which I would make it as Series 5 and 6, thats like the Fokker DVII,Snipe,FokkerEV,Nieuport28 (S5 I thought), and then Roland,AircoDH4,Macchi and Hanover which I assumed meant Series 6
but this is called series 8 in another thread here and "series 9" is talked about as next
so either Im missing 2 complete sets of 4 planes, or the numbering isnt exclusive to WW1 or I'm missing something else
help?
PS
having a hard time finding an Airco DH4 to round out the new collection, any reason why that plane in particular is hard to get hold of?
It shouldn't, but it's also not an official designation any more. Let me see if I can remember the series...
1: Fokker Dr.1, Albatros D.Va, Sopwith Camel, SPAD XIII
2: Fokker D.VII, Sopwith Snipe, 2-seaters
3: Nieuport XVII, Albatros D.III, more 2-seaters
4: Se-5a, Pfalz D.III, more 2-seaters:
5: Airco DH-2, Moraine-Saulnier Bullet, Halberstadt D.III, Fokker Eindekker
6: SPAD VII, Sopwith Triplane, Albatros D.II, Siemens-Schuckert D.III
7: Hanriot HD-1, Aviatik D.1, more 2-seaters
8: Nieuport 28, Fokker D.VIII, Macchi M5, another 2-seater
Lee, if you PM me your email I can send you a better spreadsheet which includes everything--at a lot more detail--of the released products, both Ares and Nexus, both mini and defunct card lines.
It's got a lot of blanks that need filling in and things that need re-formatting still, so you'd be getting a look at a work-in-process that's been in development for several years.
Love all of them even the Phoenix for fighting the Italians
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