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    Phoenix D.I
    From Wiki
    General characteristics

    Crew: 1
    Length: 6.65 m (21 ft 9¾ in)
    Wingspan: 9.75 m (31 ft 11¾ in)
    Height: 2.80 m (9 ft 2¼ in)
    Gross weight: 805 kg (1775 lb)
    Powerplant: 1 × Hiero 6-cylinder inline piston, 149 kW (200 hp)

    Performance


    Maximum speed: 180 km/h (112 mph)
    Endurance: 2 hours 0 min
    Service ceiling: 6000 m (19,685 ft)

    Armament


    2 x Synchronised fixed forward-firing 8 mm Schwarzlose machine guns

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    Nieuport 11

    Data from "The Worlds Greatest Aircraft"

    General characteristics


    Crew: one, pilot
    Length: 5.8 m (19 ft 0 in)
    Wingspan: 7.55 m (24 ft 9 in)
    Height: 2.4 m (7 ft 10.5 in)
    Wing area: 13 m² (140 ft²)
    Empty weight: 344 kg (759 lb)
    Loaded weight: 480 kg (1,058 lb)
    Max. takeoff weight: 550 kg (1,213 lb)
    Powerplant: 1 × Le Rhone 9C nine-cylinder air-cooled rotary engine, 59.6 kW (80 hp)

    Performance

    Maximum speed: 156 km/h (97 mph)
    Range: 330 km (205 miles)
    Service ceiling: 4,600 m (15,090 ft)
    Rate of climb: 15 mins to 3,000 m (9,840 ft)
    Power/mass: 1.49 kW/kg (0.09 hp/lb)

    Armament

    1 × Hotchkiss or Lewis machine gun

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    Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter (Two Seater / Comic Fighter)


    Data from British Aeroplanes 1914-18

    General characteristics

    Crew: two, pilot and observer
    Length: 25 ft 3 in (7.70 m)
    Wingspan: 33 ft 6 in (10.21 m)
    Height: 10 ft 3 in (3.12 m)
    Wing area: 346 ft² (32.16 m²)
    Empty weight: 1,305 lb (593 kg)
    Loaded weight: 2,149 lb (975 kg)
    Max. takeoff weight: 2,150 lb (977 kg)
    Powerplant: 1 × Clerget 9B rotary engine, 130 hp (97 kW)

    Performance

    Maximum speed: 100 mph (87 knots, 161 km/h) at 6,500 ft (1,980 m)
    Endurance: 3¾ hours
    Service ceiling: 15,500 ft (4,730 m)
    Climb to 6,500 ft (1,980 m): 9 min 10 s

    Armament

    Guns:
    1 × .303 in (7.7 mm) forward-firing synchronised Vickers machine gun
    1 × .303 in (7.7 mm) Lewis gun in observer's cockpit
    Bombs: Up to 130 lb (60 kg) bombs


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    Albatros C.III

    From Wiki

    General characteristics

    Crew: two
    Length: 8.0 m (26 ft 3 in)
    Wingspan: 11.69 m (38 ft 4 in)
    Height: 3.10 m (10 ft 2 in)
    Wing area: 36.91 m² (397 ft²)
    Empty weight: 851 kg (1,876 lb)
    Max. takeoff weight: 1,353 kg (2,983 lb)
    Powerplant: 1 × Benz Bz.III, 112 kW (150 hp) or Mercedes D.III liquid-cooled inline engine, 120 kW (160 hp)

    Performance

    Maximum speed: 140 km/h (76 kn, 87 mph)
    Service ceiling: 3,350 m (11,000 ft)
    Endurance: 4 hours

    Armament

    Guns: 1 × 7.92 mm (.312 in) Parabellum MG14 machine gun in observer's cockpit and 1 × 7.92 mm MG 08 in the nose
    Bombs: up to 200 lbs of bombs

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    Interesting...they are moving away from the planes listed on the Altitude chart in the rules. I could have sworn those would have been the planes they would have worked on, but these are NICE!

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    Looking forward to these. Although I did just order a Shapeways Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter...

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    This is great news and all, but what about more info on WGS 6 and WGS 7 that you talked about the other day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by P-51D View Post
    This is great news and all, but what about more info on WGS 6 and WGS 7 that you talked about the other day?
    Read the other thread I just posted

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    Would be interesting to see if some of the French 1 1/2 Strutters make an appearance?

    Nice line-up!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HTRAINo View Post
    Would be interesting to see if some of the French 1 1/2 Strutters make an appearance?

    Nice line-up!!!
    If not, I spy another repaint project (Oh, No! Not another one!!)

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    Pretty good! Excited about them already! But that Phonix D.I is so strange..... and so cool!
    Thanks


    Nick

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    Quote Originally Posted by HTRAINo View Post
    Would be interesting to see if some of the French 1 1/2 Strutters make an appearance?

    Nice line-up!!!
    Or maybe a Belgium one?
    I like these schemes:
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    Mike made them for me. Pretty good, but i think we will have 2 or 3 British schemes. Not that I dont like them, but that Belgium Strutter is very cool!
    Last edited by Barkmann; 10-10-2014 at 13:16.

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    I saw one in a Sopwith Magazine, and it was pale blue with some Egyptian Winged Goddess of some description emblazoned on the fuselage.

    It also had a stippled camo effect on the underside of the wings. Looked freakin' awesome!

    According to the magazine, the leading Strutter Ace for RFC was from my Hometown! His name eludes me, but ended in 'Coch'.

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    Time to drool

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitch View Post
    Looking forward to these. Although I did just order a Shapeways Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter...
    Don't worry, it will be at least a year and a half, if not two, before we see these.

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    Very nice selection, even though I have N11s and Strutters I'll probably get them too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HTRAINo View Post
    it was pale blue with some Egyptian Winged Goddess of some description emblazoned on the fuselage.

    It also had a stippled camo effect on the underside of the wings.
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    This plane belongs to the SOP 66 french squad, during 1917.

    Nice scheme indeed.

    More info (in french) : http://albindenis.free.fr/Site_escad...adrille066.htm
    (if you need any translation or comment, feel free to ask)

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    3 out of 4 are very nice. The older 2-seaters are really a welcome addition. I missed having an Albatros C-type quite a while. The Sopwith and the N.11 are a good supplement.
    The Phoenix however... I would have went for German N.11-clone instead. Even if that would mean just to have 3 models actually Now we have again a rather niche-scenario and another type which likely wont pull as much as a western-front type.

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    Great line up, I'm pretty pleased. Andrea said in another thread that at least one of the N.11s will have the rockets. I hope it is only one. I dislike the rockets on models as they were comparatively so rare, and not much in dogfighting such as this game is based on.

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    Now this looks good, not particularly bothered about the N11 , but like the rest, especially the Albatross and Strutter, even though I have some Shapeways. I'll get all bar the N11

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    The Strutter does have tons of options, with several nations using them. I DO like the thought and look of a Belgian version, it will help add a bit to the small offerings we have for Belgium now, and provide a neat looking plane. Based on the numbers of Strutters made, I could have skipped the N.11 and gone with SIX Strutter versions, one Yank, one Belgian, two British, and two French.

    Regardless, this is a solid line-up, with the Alb. C type and the much needed Phonix.

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    Oh yes, this is one I'll buy the set of. Excellent mix, especially for the Wild Wild East in 1920.

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    I would say these are good choices. With the exception of the Phoenix, they were used widely.

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    Great information, Herr Oberst! Thank you.


    Is the Phoenix D.I an A-H plane???
    Voilà le soleil d'Austerlitz!

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    Quote Originally Posted by monse View Post
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    This plane belongs to the SOP 66 french squad, during 1917.

    Nice scheme indeed.

    More info (in french) : http://albindenis.free.fr/Site_escad...adrille066.htm
    (if you need any translation or comment, feel free to ask)


    oooooooohhhh i like that!

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    interesting! what does "Comic Fighter" mean?

    i mean is that supposed to be funny or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by milcoll73 View Post
    interesting! what does "Comic Fighter" mean?

    i mean is that supposed to be funny or something?
    The Sopwith Strutter 'Comic' was a single seat version (sometimes the bomber, others field modified) with 1 or 2 Lewis MGs on the top wing. They could be Foster mounts or angled up like the later Schräge Musik mounts in WW2 NFs. They were used by Home Defense squadrons against Zeppelins, for many of the same reasons light bombers were converted to night fighters in WW2: endurance and stability.
    Not sure of the origin of the term, but it was applied by flight and ground crews to the Strutter informally, and rather more officially applied to the similarly armed Sopwith Camel NF.
    Karl
    It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus

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    ooh Nieuport's Nice, and finally the Strutter for those of us too ham fosted to attempt re-paints / Shapeways etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marechallannes View Post
    Great information, Herr Oberst! Thank you.


    Is the Phoenix D.I an A-H plane???
    Yes the Phonix D.I is A-H! Used by the Navy and Army.

    Just bought 4 Sopwith Strutters to add to the three French ones I already have. Well, the more the merrier.

    Will be buying the whole series + some extras.

    We do know 2 N11 pilots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    The Sopwith Strutter 'Comic' was a single seat version (sometimes the bomber, others field modified) with 1 or 2 Lewis MGs on the top wing. They could be Foster mounts or angled up like the later Schräge Musik mounts in WW2 NFs. They were used by Home Defense squadrons against Zeppelins, for many of the same reasons light bombers were converted to night fighters in WW2: endurance and stability.
    Not sure of the origin of the term, but it was applied by flight and ground crews to the Strutter informally, and rather more officially applied to the similarly armed Sopwith Camel NF.


    thanks karl!
    Karl

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    Aleksandr Georgievich Mikhailov 22nd KAO, 3rd BAG

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    Jean Navarre

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    Armand de Turenne
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    Not greatly fussed about the Phoenix, but I'll probably get the full set regardless.
    Run for your life - there are stupid people everywhere!

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    Pilot - Lt.Erwin Bohme/observer - Lt.Lademacher.

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    Pilot - unknown

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    Will definitely be getting at least one Nieuport 11, would love a N124 scheme.

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    I like your options on the N.11 Zoe. Mainly the De Turenne and Navarre.
    May the other one be Guynemer's N.11?
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    Gold Medal Giannino Ancillotto will be there, with his rocket equipped Ni.11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiolillo View Post
    Gold Medal Giannino Ancillotto will be there, with his rocket equipped Ni.11.
    Are all the Nieuport 11 models going to have rockets? That would be a negative for me. I already have two rocket-equipped N16s, and that's one too many...

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    No, the two French ones will not. Ancillotto's will.

    Here he is after his mission of December 5, 1917, with the pieces of the Austrian balloon he flew across while it was exploding. Details in Paolo Varriale's books on Italian aces (Schiffer, Osprey). Paolo held a piece of that balloon in his hands, and the yellow of one of the two Wings of War's Claquot/Ae800 balloons has been made after his advice.

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    In my haste for WGS news, I forgot to post how excited I am for the N11 and Strutter! As has been said previously, this is a fantastic line up and addition to the game!

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    2 x Phoenix + 2 x Nieuport 11 (one of course the Italian plae with rockets), 1 x Strutter and 1 x Albatros C.III.

    Where can I place my order?
    Voilà le soleil d'Austerlitz!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiolillo View Post
    No, the two French ones will not. Ancillotto's will.

    Here he is after his mission of December 5, 1917, with the pieces of the Austrian balloon he flew across while it was exploding. Details in Paolo Varriale's books on Italian aces (Schiffer, Osprey). Paolo held a piece of that balloon in his hands, and the yellow of one of the two Wings of War's Claquot/Ae800 balloons has been made after his advice.

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    It seems like making the rockets detachable would be the way to go. Maybe so they could clip on and off the struts? I think something like that would be a better option, as you could then shift them to different planes depending on the mission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoe Brain View Post
    Oh yes, this is one I'll buy the set of. Excellent mix, especially for the Wild Wild East in 1920.
    I second that with all my heart. A very good choice

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    Summary of Albatros C.III Combat Aircraft Orders and Serial Numbers

    Month Ordered-Order Qty-Serial Numbers-Serial Qty-Builder
    Nov 1915 - 44 - C.2060 - 2103/15 - 44 - Albatros
    Dec 1915 - 200 - C.4000 - 4199/15 -200 - Albatros and OAW
    Feb 1916 - 200 - C.100 - 199/16 - 100 - Albatros and OAW
    * * C.722 - 799/16 - 78 - Albatros and OAW
    Mar 1916 - 72 - C.650 - 721/16 - 72 - Bayerische
    Apr 1916 - 30 - C.1375 - 1404/16 - 30 - Albatros and OAW
    Jun 1916 - 200 - C.2273 - 2372/16 - 100 - Albatros and OAW
    Jul 1916 - 50 - C.2124 - 2173/16 - 50 - Bayerische
    Subtotals - 796 ordered * 674 completed *


    At the Front

    31 Dec 1915
    Albatros C.III 12

    28 Feb 1916
    Albatros C.III 51

    30 Apr 1916
    Albatros C.III 208

    30 Jun 1916
    Albatros C.III 300

    31 Aug 1916
    Albatros C.III 354

    31 Oct 1916
    Albatros C.III 320

    31 Dec 1916
    Albatros C.III 320

    28 Feb 1917
    Albatros C.III 214

    30 Apr 1917
    Albatros C.III 174

    30 Jun 1917
    Albatros C.III 107

    31 Aug 1917
    Albatros C.III 29

    31 Oct 1917
    Albatros C.III 15

    31 Dec 1917
    Albatros C.III 5

    28 Feb 1918
    Albatros C.III 5
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    Very interesting mix of planes. I'm looking forward especially to Neuport and Strutter, but other ones are also cool. Looking forward

    For Belgian addicts here , I've brought that scheme:
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    For me this is an excellent selection, could not ask for more. I will be buying at least three of each.

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    I am really curious which paint schemes would be for Nieuport 11. At least one Italian is sure, but what about the next two? One or two French? WIll be there any Belgians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenalfonzo View Post
    It seems like making the rockets detachable would be the way to go. Maybe so they could clip on and off the struts? I think something like that would be a better option, as you could then shift them to different planes depending on the mission.
    That would be really neat, but I doubt it's feasable at this scale for mass production at a reasonable cost. I'm just hoping you'll be able to cut them off cleanly to re-use them...

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    There are plenty of good choices of paint schemes for the Nieuport 11. It must have been used by every air force in the Entente plus captured/clones by the Germans.
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    The Phönix looks as tho' it goes against the Hanriot on the Italian-v.-AH front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiolillo View Post
    Gold Medal Giannino Ancillotto will be there, with his rocket equipped Ni.11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan-Sam View Post
    I am really curious which paint schemes would be for Nieuport 11. At least one Italian is sure, but what about the next two? One or two French? WIll be there any Belgians?
    de Turenne (pictured above) is confirmed as one of the others.

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