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    Just been trawling Hannant's site for 1/200 stuff and noticed Trumpeter is planning to bring out 1/200 kits of a Vought Kingfisher, B25, Wildcat, Devastator, Dauntless and an Arado 196. No indication of price or release date yet, but something to look forward to.

    End of report - now back to buying up Hannant's stock of Zvezda Ju 88s
    Run for your life - there are stupid people everywhere!

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    That Arado is one I want! Taste is personal off course but for me that is one lovely floatplane...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomatchef View Post
    That Arado is one I want! Taste is personal off course but for me that is one lovely floatplane...
    Card?

    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGuy59 View Post
    Card?

    Mike
    He's going to say No to you?
    Karl
    It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus

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    Give me a couple days; I need to take my wife out to dinner shortly.
    Karl
    It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guntruck View Post
    Just been trawling Hannant's site for 1/200 stuff and noticed Trumpeter is planning to bring out 1/200 kits of a Vought Kingfisher, B25, Wildcat, Devastator, Dauntless and an Arado 196. No indication of price or release date yet, but something to look forward to.

    End of report - now back to buying up Hannant's stock of Zvezda Ju 88s
    Where are my Fulmers and Albacores?
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Long time coming.......talk to the elves
    Run for your life - there are stupid people everywhere!

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    One thing is sure. 1/200 scale has been noticed as a profit source. Good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Officer Kyte View Post
    Where are my Fulmers and Albacores?
    Rob.
    With Mrs Clipper heading north again soon the elves have a Fairey window, albacore is on the menu . . .

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    That sounds promising Dave. What flavour is it ?
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Quote Originally Posted by clipper1801 View Post
    albacore is on the menu . . .
    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Officer Kyte View Post
    That sounds promising Dave. What flavour is it ?
    Rob.
    Lightly seared, with a nice wasabi sauce on the side , and candied ginger!
    Karl
    It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Officer Kyte View Post
    Where are my Fulmers and Albacores?
    Rob.
    How many each do you want? The elves got a green light . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by clipper1801 View Post
    How many each do you want? The elves got a green light . . .
    Four would make a decent flight Dave, but only if you tell me how much I owe you for the last lot. You can't keep subbing my habit like this.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    Lightly seared, with a nice wasabi sauce on the side , and candied ginger!
    Karl
    I know the Fulmers are sea bird flavour Karl.

    https://www.google.co.uk/#q=monty+python+albatross

    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGuy59 View Post
    Card?

    Mike
    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    He's going to say No to you?
    Karl
    Bring it on!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomatchef View Post
    That Arado is one I want! Taste is personal off course but for me that is one lovely floatplane...
    Weapons were two 20mm wing cannons with two .312 mgs in the fuselage, one .312 mg to the rear. My best guess is:
    Front: CCA/C
    Rear: A/A

    After that, things get fuzzy. It has the same speed as a Stuka, but handled better. I have no idea what the resistance rating would be. If a card were to suddenly appear on my monitor, though, it would look a lot like a Stuka.

    Mike

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    I believe it was the most heavily armed floatplane!
    Here is a picture of mine for your interest.
    it is 1/144 though, not 1/200!
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGuy59 View Post
    Weapons were two 20mm wing cannons with two .312 mgs in the fuselage, one .312 mg to the rear.
    Um, you have the MGs backwards: The Ar-196 had *one* 0.31 forward (right side of engine cowling, halfway down) and *two* 0.31s in the gunner position.

    I have often wondered how a landplane version might have fared as a replacement for the Ju-87, esp. in places where the inline wasn't the best choice from a maintenance standpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csadn View Post
    Um, you have the MGs backwards: The Ar-196 had *one* 0.31 forward (right side of engine cowling, halfway down) and *two* 0.31s in the gunner position.

    I have often wondered how a landplane version might have fared as a replacement for the Ju-87, esp. in places where the inline wasn't the best choice from a maintenance standpoint.
    Hmmm...

    Definitely only one MG17 to the front, as you say. The rear was upgraded from the MG15 on the A1 - A4 versions to the MG81Z twin mount on the A5 version.

    So, does that even change the damage? Single or twin .303 (.312) mgs are A/A, no?

    Mike

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    Yes, Chris is correct, only one forward firing MG on the right side.
    You can see on my model there is a blister for the MG on the right side of the forward fuselage and none on the left side:
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    The A-1 (main production model) had 1 or 2 MGs forward, and 1 in the rear. The initial planes had no front guns.
    The A-3 model (land-based only) had 2 MGs and 2 20mm cannon forward, and 1 or 2 rear MGs.
    One or two rifle-caliber MGs (e.g. .303, 7.62mm et al) are A/A (some discussion in house rules about single MGs esp. rear mounted).
    Maneuver deck should be Zoe's ZM deck (it's in the files).
    For hits, the math comes to 18, but that includes the weight of the floats, which I don't think should count for hits.
    Ceiling is an 8; climb is a 7.
    Karl
    It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbhawkin View Post
    Yes, Chris is correct, only one forward firing MG on the right side.
    You can see on my model there is a blister for the MG on the right side of the forward fuselage and none on the left side:
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    Looks like it has the 20mm wing guns too.
    Karl
    It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus

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    Well whatever the discussion about its guns, it looks a good plane to inject a bit of variety into our game play.
    Now who can we get to produce one in 1:200 for us? Hmm I wonder.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    OK,
    Let's try this for a card?

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    I adjusted the damage to 17, as I agree the floats shouldn't really affect the calculation.

    Mike

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    Cracking card Mike.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Very nice looking card, Mike, but..... shouldn't it be a standard sized one?
    Karl
    It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    Very nice looking card, Mike, but..... shouldn't it be a standard sized one?
    Karl
    Standard?

    I'm not sure what that is. However, this is a remake of a Max Headroom Card:

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    Is that what you mean? I was a bit confused as to how to do the two firing arcs, so copied the WoG Bf.110 card.

    Mike

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    Right Mike.
    Now we are just waiting for Hannants to bring on the Arado to go with it.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    It can't be soon enough, I have been tracking this release since last year when they announced it. Too fiddly for me and the elves these days . . .

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    Did you spot this?


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    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Ah yes, this was post war right? Ah 1937!
    Last edited by clipper1801; 06-28-2014 at 13:25.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    The A-1 (main production model) had 1 or 2 MGs forward, and 1 in the rear. The initial planes had no front guns.
    The A-3 model (land-based only) had 2 MGs and 2 20mm cannon forward, and 1 or 2 rear MGs.
    Incorrect -- no -196 ever carried more than one 0.31 forward. The A-1 carried no forward armament at all (only a single 0.31 aft); all other models used a 20mm cannon in each wing, and a single 0.31 in the right side of the cowling.

    I suspect the confusion rises from the type of 20mm used -- the MG FF model was used in all -196s save the A-1.

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    Here's a bit of footage.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNAA-gskwd8

    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Quote Originally Posted by csadn View Post
    Incorrect -- no -196 ever carried more than one 0.31 forward. The A-1 carried no forward armament at all (only a single 0.31 aft); all other models used a 20mm cannon in each wing, and a single 0.31 in the right side of the cowling.

    I suspect the confusion rises from the type of 20mm used -- the MG FF model was used in all -196s save the A-1.
    OK. No matter though; the guns is still A/A
    Karl
    It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGuy59 View Post
    Standard?

    I'm not sure what that is. However, this is a remake of a Max Headroom Card:

    Click image for larger version. 

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    Is that what you mean? I was a bit confused as to how to do the two firing arcs, so copied the WoG Bf.110 card.

    Mike
    Yeh, the first card was a heavy fighter card. Same length, twice the width.
    Karl
    It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus

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    That card will certainly do for me better than the one I have Mike.
    Colour scheme is nearer and i think the rear gun firing arc is more accurate too.
    Are you going to include it in your seaplane album?
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Hope this helps:

    2 x Ar 196A pre-production twin floats
    2 x Ar 196B pre-production single and double float
    Ar 196A-0 built 1939 operated from major warships
    Ar 196A-1 single 7.92mm in the starboard side forward fuselage, single 7.92mm MG15 rear cockpit
    Ar 196A-2 2 x 20mm wing mounted MGFF canon,1 single 7.92mm in the starboard side forward fuselage, single 7.92mm rear cockpit
    Ar 196A-3 structural strengthening, variable pitch propeller
    Ar 196A-4 Catapult version
    Ar 196A-5 2 x 20mm wing mounted MGFF canon,1 single 7.92mm in the starboard side forward fuselage, twin 7.92mm MG81 rear cockpit
    See you on the Dark Side......

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    Two Arado 196s in my Seaplane Album.

    Sigh. Just found the group number for your plane, Rob: 2/SAGr125.

    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skafloc View Post
    Ar 196A-1 single 7.92mm in the starboard side forward fuselage, single 7.92mm MG15 rear cockpit
    The A-1 did not have any forward armament; only the single gun aft with six 75-rd. drums.

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    Apologies but my source states otherwise.

    Quote Originally Posted by csadn View Post
    The A-1 did not have any forward armament; only the single gun aft with six 75-rd. drums.
    See you on the Dark Side......

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    The Ar 196 prototypes were all delivered in summer 1937, V1 (which flew in May) and V2 with twin floats as A models, and V3 and V4 on a single float as B models. Both versions demonstrated excellent water handling and there seemed to be little to decide one over the other. Since there was a possibility of the smaller outrigger floats on the B models "digging in", the twin-float A model was ordered into production. A single additional prototype, V5, was produced in November 1938 to test final changes.

    10 A-0s were delivered in November and December 1938, with a single 7.92 mm (.312 in) MG 15 machine gun in the rear seat for defense. Five similarly equipped B-0s were also delivered to land-based squadrons. This was followed by 20 A-1 production models starting in June 1939, enough to equip the surface fleet.
    Starting in November, production switched to the heavier land-based A-2 model. It added shackles for two 50 kg (110 lb) bombs, two 20 mm MG FF cannons in the wings, and a 7.92 mm (.312 in) MG 17 machine gun in the cowling. The A-4 replaced it in December 1940, strengthening the airframe, adding another radio, and switching props to a VDM model. The apparently mis-numbered A-3, which had additional strengthening of the airframe, replaced the A-4. The final production version was the A-5 from 1943, which changed radios and cockpit instruments, and switched the rear gun to the much-improved MG 81Z. Overall, 541 Ar 196s (15 prototypes and 526 production models) were built before production ended in August 1944, about 100 of these from SNCA and Fokker plants.
    The Ar 196C was a proposed aerodynamically-refined version. The Ar 196C project was cancelled in 1941.
    Now all I need to do is find the bloody source to back up the previous post!
    See you on the Dark Side......

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    Check the variants near the bottom. A-1 has 2 (?) wing mounted mg's.

    http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircr...ircraft_id=320
    See you on the Dark Side......

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    From what I have been told, by a very nice chap at Pocketbond, the new Trumpeter kits are the same molds as the current Merit ones.
    Obviously that isn't the whole range that have been announced though.
    There is a 1/200 Vought Kingfisher on Hannants, two for Ł10. With launch ramps too no less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skafloc View Post
    Now all I need to do is find the bloody source to back up the previous post!
    Mine was _Warplanes of the Luftwaffe_ [ed. David Donald], p. 8.

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    These will be welcome additions to the available aircraft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foz View Post
    From what I have been told, by a very nice chap at Pocketbond, the new Trumpeter kits are the same molds as the current Merit ones.
    Obviously that isn't the whole range that have been announced though.
    There is a 1/200 Vought Kingfisher on Hannants, two for Ł10. With launch ramps too no less.
    Does Merit do an Arado then? Hope it's the A-8 version with the 3 forward firing 20mm cannon.
    Run for your life - there are stupid people everywhere!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guntruck View Post
    Does Merit do an Arado then? Hope it's the A-8 version with the 3 forward firing 20mm cannon.
    Nope. Merit only do F4F-4, SBD-1, TBD-1 & B25s in their range. I'm assuming Trumpeter are widening the range to allow for the seaplanes from their own model ships.

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    Just had a dig online, and this company does a 1/200 Arado 196. Though they are currently out of stock.
    I have emailed them for an idea when they will be back in stock. I'll report back when they answer.
    Link

    This company does have stock. At the bottom of the page.
    Link
    Last edited by Foz; 10-09-2015 at 13:33.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foz View Post
    Just had a dig online, and this company does a 1/200 Arado 196. Though they are currently out of stock.
    I have emailed them for an idea when they will be back in stock. I'll report back when they answer.
    Link

    This company does have stock. At the bottom of the page.
    Link
    Thanks for the link. They now have 2 less Arados than they did 5 minutes ago!
    Run for your life - there are stupid people everywhere!

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