Site Challenge Coins

**BobP** · 04-23-2014 16:08

Saw about the coins in the new section but these photos are wonderful. The box is a very special addition.

**csadn** · 04-24-2014 14:35

This seems to be turning into a Trend -- this is maybe the third group I've actually acquired a coin from, and seen maybe half-a-dozen others for groups I'm not part of.

On one hand: I suspect this is causing some level of Annoyance amongst the group which put the practice on the map -- the military; on the other, Howard Tayler of _Schlock Mercenary_ phrased it best: "Loyalty should last longer than a T-shirt"....

**Jager** · 04-28-2014 15:32

Just got mine today: it's a real gem, with a nice heft to it.
Great Job, Keith.

Karl

**Naharaht** · 04-28-2014 18:19

I know that you are very generous, Oberst Hajj, but a 100% saving means that they are free! In the Aerodrome Accessories shop Gear section it says,

Gear Wings of Glory Aerodrome Challenge Coin
Product Code:CC-Site

Availability: In stock

$10.99
Buy 10 for $8.99 each and save 100%

I know that what you meant to say was that by buying 10 coins at $8.99 each you are effectively buying 9 at the normal price and receiving one free.

**Oberst Hajj** · 04-28-2014 18:59

Thanks David. The code on the site that figures out the discount was messed up. It's fixed now.

**Tommy Z** · 04-29-2014 17:42

Mine arrived today. Awesome job Keith! It looks great.

**Oberst Hajj** · 04-30-2014 05:16

Okay chaps, let's see some pics of you and your coins!

**Badin23** · 04-30-2014 05:25

I received my membership coin a couple days ago and have been meaning to get on here sooner and comment. Fist and foremost Thank you so much for the unbelievable speed in which it arrived. I was stunned at the turn around time from the initial email. Second a real beauty of a coin, great idea!

**csadn** · 04-30-2014 15:19

Mine has also arrived; it is currently living with the _Schlock Mercenary_ coins, and the Baen BarFly coin.

**Naharaht** · 05-01-2014 06:09

If these Challenge Coins are used to determine who pays for a round of drinks, is there some sort of ranking order to determine who loses if everyone has a different coin?

**Oberst Hajj** · 05-01-2014 07:05

Originally Posted by Naharaht

If these Challenge Coins are used to determine who pays for a round of drinks, is there some sort of ranking order to determine who loses if everyone has a different coin?

I would say the order would be:

Site Coin > Gold Membership > Lend-Lease > Kill Coin > Ace Coin

The LL and Kill coins could be swapped though depending on how you view them. There are only ever 50 LL coins made, but they can essentually be bought where as the Kill coin is not a limited edition, but you have to have played in the Wings of Glory Aerodrome Invitational Tourney and shot someone done in order to get one. That will make them much harder to come by. After a couple years, I'll be making an Wings of Glory Aerodrome Invitational Ace coin. Someone would need to shoot down 5 planes (tracked from year to year) to earn this coin.

Or, he with the most coins wins. lol So if two people both had Gold Member coins and only one had a Site coin, the person with both coins comes out on top.

**Tommy Z** · 05-01-2014 08:11

Traditionally, if everyone produces a coin the individual who issued the challenge pays for the round.

Note to self: bring coin to origins!

See the Rules Here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenge_coin

**flash** · 05-01-2014 08:33

Would have thought Gold membership would out rank Site Coin - as I have to wait months for mine I hate to think it's second rate before I get it !

**Naharaht** · 05-01-2014 09:09

I think that the Oberst has his inequality signs the wrong way around. I think that he meant

Site Coin < Gold Membership < Lend-Lease < Kill Coin < Ace Coin. (The open end points towards the greater quantity.)

**Jager** · 05-01-2014 09:27

I would personally favor the traditional way, as Tommy Z pointed out:

Originally Posted by Tommy Z

Traditionally, if everyone produces a coin the individual who issued the challenge pays for the round.

int
See the Rules Here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenge_coin

It makes one think before challenging, as it should be

Oh, Tommy: very much have the coin at Origins

Karl

**Oberst Hajj** · 05-01-2014 09:34

Originally Posted by Tommy Z

Traditionally, if everyone produces a coin the individual who issued the challenge pays for the round.

Note to self: bring coin to origins!

See the Rules Here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenge_coin

That's the way it works, but if someone ups the ante by producing a second coin...

That's why I'll be bring 37 coins to Origins

Originally Posted by Naharaht

I think that the Oberst has his inequality signs the wrong way around. I think that he meant

Site Coin < Gold Membership < Lend-Lease < Kill Coin < Ace Coin. (The open end points towards the greater quantity.)

You are correct sir. I was actually not trying to use inequality signs, just arrows. But that was confusing

**Tommy Z** · 05-01-2014 09:47

In my unit, as a gentlemanly agreement, once you lost a challenge you were "immune" from further challenges as long as you were in that particular establishment.

**Oberst Hajj** · 05-01-2014 09:55

So are these challenges going to be coin pacific? If I issue a site coin challenge, can you pull out a Gold Member coin? Personally, I think not. So if I issue a site coin challenge and everyone has one.. I would typically have to buy the round.. but not if I had a Gold coin to up the ante of the challenge. Thoughts?

**The Cowman** · 05-01-2014 10:21

<------------- is worried he can't afford this game.

**Big Blake** · 05-01-2014 11:02

These coins are a great idea Keith. A few posts back someone mentioned keeping the A-side and having the B-side for individual cons or gaming groups. Do you think this would work with my summer classes with the kids? If so, would every kid get a coin for just taking and finishing my WGF class or would they have fulfill a certain mission to receive a coin?

Any thoughts out there?

**7eat51** · 05-01-2014 11:07

That sounds like a great idea, Blake.

Originally, you were planning on giving a single plane, correct?

**Big Blake** · 05-01-2014 11:11

Yes each student will take home a plane and maneuver deck. I was thinking about this coin also.

**Oberst Hajj** · 05-01-2014 11:39

A set of coins could be done for your classes very easily. The only catch might be that the minimum number is 50. Not sure how many students you have join your classes. Of course, one order could last you a couple of years.

**Kaiser** · 05-01-2014 12:22

Remember that only persons can be challenged who actually posess such a coin. Persons who don't posses such a coin are immune to the challenge. Persons who possess such a coin but don't present them when challenged have to buy a round

**David Manley** · 05-01-2014 12:38

Originally Posted by Kaiser

Remember that only persons can be challenged who actually posess such a coin.

Indeed, otherwise said coin might find itself inserted somewhere painful

**7eat51** · 05-01-2014 13:00

Originally Posted by Oberst Hajj

A set of coins could be done for your classes very easily. The only catch might be that the minimum number is 50. Not sure how many students you have join your classes. Of course, one order could last you a couple of years.

It is possible that such an endeavor might expand beyond Blake's efforts, i.e. others doing something similar elsewhere.

Blake and I are going to resume an earlier conversation regarding grants. If some can be secured, such an expansion could become quite feasible. Similarly, if any expansion occurs, securing grants could become more feasible.

**Tommy Z** · 05-01-2014 13:12

Originally Posted by Kaiser

Remember that only persons can be challenged who actually posess such a coin. Persons who don't posses such a coin are immune to the challenge. Persons who possess such a coin but don't present them when challenged have to buy a round

Correct. You have to have been issued a coin and presented with the rules & obligations of the unit to be eligible. Wouldn't be fair to newer members.

**BobP** · 05-01-2014 17:20

Just ordered my Site coin to add to the many other coins I have.

**Big Blake** · 05-01-2014 23:02

Are there similar coins at the Sails of Glory site?

**Oberst Hajj** · 05-02-2014 07:06

Originally Posted by Big Blake

Are there similar coins at the Sails of Glory site?

No, there is not enough activity for such a thing yet. Once things gain momentum for that game, I'll look at doing coins for that site. It will also depend on how the coins do here of course.

**BobP** · 05-09-2014 12:28

Received my Site and LL coins today. Very nice and good job on them.

**BobP** · 05-11-2014 13:26

Just a thought but in the ABOUT ME section of your profile would it be possible to add your membership level and the date you started at that level? I know a email will be sent but some of mine go to the junk pile and I might miss the notice. I think if it was done that way it may make it easier to see when to renew their membership to keep the site up and running. Also in the long run maybe less work to remind people. Just a thought and some ramblings.

**Carl_Brisgamer** · 05-12-2014 20:03

Hi Keith,

I received my coin in the mail yesterday, very nice indeed.

It's now sitting next to my Wings of Glory trophy from the Toowoomba comp last year.

Cheers,

Carl.

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 05-13-2014 05:43

Mine arrived today. It is magnificent.
A perfect size and so well struck.
Thank you very much Herr Oberst.
Rob.

**Oberst Hajj** · 05-13-2014 05:48

Originally Posted by BobP

Just a thought but in the ABOUT ME section of your profile would it be possible to add your membership level and the date you started at that level? I know a email will be sent but some of mine go to the junk pile and I might miss the notice. I think if it was done that way it may make it easier to see when to renew their membership to keep the site up and running. Also in the long run maybe less work to remind people. Just a thought and some ramblings.

Everything is auto renewed. So, unless someone changes that for their account via Paypal or cancels their membership (again via Paypal), their really is nothing to have to remember.

**Oberst Hajj** · 05-13-2014 05:49

I'm glad everyone is liking the coins. A lot of time and effort went into getting them sorted out and everything. I'm personally very proud of them.

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 05-13-2014 06:00

Originally Posted by Oberst Hajj

I'm personally very proud of them.

You have every right to be sir.
Rob.

**Teaticket** · 05-13-2014 10:05

I entered at the gold membership level but do not have the auto-renew on. Is this why I have not received a coin?

**Oberst Hajj** · 05-13-2014 10:37

Peter, did you opt for the $5 a month or the whole $60 option?

**fast.git** · 05-13-2014 11:00

Originally Posted by Teaticket

I entered at the gold membership level but do not have the auto-renew on. Is this why I have not received a coin?

I'm still waiting on mine as well, Peter. I'm hoping (and I'd be more than a little surprised) it's nothing more than a postal service issue.

**Teaticket** · 05-13-2014 11:25

Originally Posted by Oberst Hajj

Peter, did you opt for the $5 a month or the whole $60 option?

I went for the $60. I turned off the auto renew but plan on keeping up my membership. Its a control thing!

Chris, since they are landing in Old Blighty I don't think it can be the USPS. Maybe, but not likely, so thought
I'd inquire. I'll probably get the 2014 Airlift coin too as at least I can say I won the 3rd raffle!

**Oberst Hajj** · 05-13-2014 12:20

Peter, PM me the email address you use for paypal please. I'll sort it out.

**Biggles downunder** · 05-13-2014 14:41

My gold membershiip coin arrived yesterday. Only one word on it... Magnificent!

A great job Keith, thank you!

Just a question, is it possible to order the acrylic case or wooden box separately?

**pbhawkin** · 05-13-2014 22:31

Keith, received mine yesterday.
Many thanks, it looks lovely.

**Oberst Hajj** · 05-14-2014 07:36

Originally Posted by Biggles downunder

My gold membershiip coin arrived yesterday. Only one word on it... Magnificent!

A great job Keith, thank you!

Just a question, is it possible to order the acrylic case or wooden box separately?

Sure. I'll need to add them to the site separately though. give me a couple of days, just started a Flight Test at work and so my schedule is all kinds of crazy for the next month and a half.