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    Ex-German types anyway.

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    Total of 91 AEG C.IV reconnaissance planes were captured from German stocks in 1918-1919, mainly in Wielkopolska. They equipped eight squadrons and three flight schools. Due to their wear, they were all scrapped by mid 1921. Additionaly two AEG J.I and two AEG N.I - attack and night bomber versions of C.IV - were used until 1921 as operational trainers, and single AEG N.I (of German airline) was interned and temporarily pressed into service in 1923.

    5 Albatros B.I trainers were used until 1921 in Polish military aviation on Kraków airfield.

    Albatros B.II trainers were among the most numerous aircraft of the early years of Polish military aviation, with 116 in use, mostly in majority of schools, but with some also used as liason planes attached to front-line squadrons. They remained in service exceptionally long, with last one being retired as late as 1927. Some of them later ended up in aero-clubs and in private hands, flying until mid-1930s. Single aircraft of that type is an exhibit of aviation museum in Kraków.

    Albatros C.I observation planes, 49 of which were captured, were used in eight squadrons, but usually not as their main equipment (typically 1-2 planes per squadron). More widespread was their use in flight and observer schools (total five of them), where they were used until 1922. One C.I (or rather it's fuselage) can be seen in aviation museum in Kraków.

    Albatros C.III was the first plane that took off from the Warsaw's Mokotów airfield after the independence. 15 such planes were used by Polish aviation until 1920, though last one remained in service about year longer.

    About 3 Albatros C.V was serving in Polish Forces for short time. Polish military aviation also used 27 Albatros C.VII aircraft ( almost identical to C.V ), both captured and acquired as part of war reparations. Until 1921 they were used by six squadrons and year longer as trainers in three of the schools.

    Total of 32 Albatros C.X airplanes were captured, 25 of them in Poznań. They were extensively used, and until spring of 1920 they formed backbone of reconnaissance aviation, being used by as much as thirteen squadrons, as well as three schools. Most of them remained in service until late 1922, except for one, converted to air ambulance, that was kept in use until 1927.

    Once called a most ellegant recce aircraft in the German aviation, Albatros C.XII was used also in Poland. 24 such aircraft were captured in 1918-1919 and were used by nine squadrons until late 1920. Additionaly one plane was used as dual-controlled trainer.

    Despite the "C" designation, signalling reconnaissance aircrat, Albatros C.XV was actually dual-use attack/recce aircrat (in German aviation classed typically as "CL"). 18 such planes were purchased in 1920 via then-Free City of Gdańsk, and kept in use until 1922 in several squadrons, mainly by 21 Eskadra Niszczycielska (21st Destroyer Squadron) which used them as ground attack aircraft.

    In the early months of independence, Albatros (and Oeffag) fighters formed the backbone of Poland's air combat force. Most numerous among them was D.III version, 26 of which were used (not counting Oeffag D.III's of Austro-Hungarian origin), spread thinly among eight of the reconnaisaance squadrons (two of which were later reformed into fighter units) and four schools. Well-known problems with lower wing limited their usefullness and by late 1919 they were all removed from front-line service, though last two aircraft were used as trainers until 1923. Additionaly, a single Albatros D.II was very briefly used as trainer.

    Polish military aviation had 18 Albatros D.V fighters (17 of them D.Va), spread among units in the same way as D.III, and additionaly to Baza Lotnictwa Morskiego (Naval Aviation Base) in Puck. They were removed from service together with their predecessors, except for naval planes that were kept in service until 1922.

    Total of 10 Albatros J.I attack planes were captured in Wielkopolska, and subsequently they equipped four squadrons, including one allied Ukrainian unit. Later they were transferred to training units and scrapped around 1921-1922.

    In early 1919 7 Aviatik C.III were captured in Wielkopolska in stored condition, although only 3 of them were made flyable and used for some time as trainers. Aviation museum in Kraków exhibits one plane of that type, which is the last one remaining in the world.

    Polish military aviation used 63 DFW C.V reconnaissance aircraft, obtained from variety of sources - captured on Germans, on the eastern front, as well as bought from German war surplus. They equipped ten squadrons and four schools, remaining in service slightly longer than most German aircraft types - until 1924. Additionaly, 3 similar DFW C.IV aircraft were used - one in one of the reconaissance squadrons, and remaining two in the naval aviation until 1922. Kraków aviation museum has a DFW C.V, which is the only remaining plane of that type in the world.

    Extremely successful Fokker D.VII fighters were used also in Poland, although their exact number is uncertain. It is generally accepted that there were about 50 of them - 2 captured, 3 obtained as war reparations, 25 purchased in Germany and 20 in France (from that country's share of war reparations). They equipped four fighter squadrons (two of these as basic equipment), two schools and later (after formation of air regiments) in training squadrons of four of these, remaining in service until 1927, though last ones were kept in flyable condition for about a year longer.

    16 Fokker E.V (D.VIII) monoplane fighters were captured in Wielkopolska and used to equip 5 squadrons and 3 schools until late 1920/early 1921, though last one survived as display plane until around 1926.

    Polish military aviation had 3 (Friedrichshafen) heavy bombers, one G.III and two G.IIIa. Two of them were impounded in late 1919 after crash landings during secret flights from Germany to Ukraine, third was purchased from "anonymous owner" from East Prussia. One aircraft was heavily - and succesfuly - used by 21 Eskadra Niszczycielska (21st Destroyer Squadron) on the southern front, one (that from "anonymous owner") was used by one of squadrons from Wielkopolska, but details are unknown, and third one was kept in reserve and only occasionaly flown until 1926.

    Polish naval aviation had three Friedrichshafen FF.33 (each in different version) and one FF.49 floatplanes. One of FF.33's was used only briefly due to poor technical condition, one FF.33 and only FF.49 crashed in 1921 and remaining plane was kept in flying service until 1923 and for two more years as non-flying trainer (for training of taxiing and water handling).

    Polish military aviation used total of 5 Gotha heavy bombers (1 G.III and 4 G.IV) - all either captured or obtained as war reparations. Only one of them (G.IV) was kept in flyable condition, though, and was used until summer 1920 by 21 Eskadra Niszczycielska (21st Destroyer Squadron), while remaining planes were kept in storage until around 1922. (this was the one that came second in the painting comp)

    10 attack/reconnaissance Halberstadt CL.II aircraft equipped two squadrons of Polish military aviation until 1921. Kraków museum is proud owner of one such aircraft, being last one remaining in the world.

    Halberstadt CL.IV aircraft was used in Poland in very small numbers - just 3 such planes, but relatively long - until late 1922, equipping two squadrons, and later one of the schools.

    Polish military aviation used 12 Halberstadt C.V aircraft in one squadron and two schools, and were all scrapped in late 1920 or early 1921.

    Total of 23 (mostly captured) Hannover CL.II and single CL.IIIa aircraft were used by Polish military aviation, equipping several squadrons until late 1920 and two schools for slightly longer period. Additionaly, plans were made to begin production of the carbon-copy of these aircraft in Warsaw's Centralne Warsztaty Lotnicze (Central Aviational Workshops), but only two were made and whole idea was dropped after first of these planes crashed during one of the first flights (due to grave errors made during it's construction from incomplete documentation).

    Single Hannover CL.V was used in Poland between 1919 and 1920.

    Single Lübeck-Travemünde F-4 floatplane was used between 1920 and 1924 (when it crashed).

    Polish military aviation had 14 (captured) LVG C.II aircraft, although they were never used as front-line aircraft, and just several of them, very occasionaly, as trainers, until last one were scrapped in early 1921.

    It should be also noted, that Polish aviation had single LVG B.II, but it was not used in any operational capacity, as well as two LVG B.III used briefly as trainers. Also, one (different) plane of the B.II type is exhibited in Kraków aviation museum as the last example of the type in the world.

    LVG C.V reconnaissance aircraft were most numerous planes of German origin in Polish military aviation, with as much as 151 being used (75 captured in Poznań, 7 in other parts of Poland, 8 on eastern front and 61 purchased from war surplus and obtained as part of war reparations). They were used in first bombing raid of independent Poland's aviation on 9 January 1919, later equipping twelve Polish squadrons, as well as two allied units (one Ukrainian and one Belorussian), in addition to, already mentioned, aviational unit of 4 Dywizja Strzelców (4th Rifle Division) and five schools. They remained in service until around 1924-1925.

    Polish aviation had 15, mostly captured, LVG C.VI planes. They equipped six squadrons and three schools, and were highly valued by their crews, remaining in service until mid-1920s, with exception of one aircraft, that was actually a Lithuanian plane which accidentaly landed in Poland as late 1927 and was pressed into service in Polish aviation, although for how long is unclear, since Lithuanians demanded return of the plane.

    Two Pfalz D.XII fighters were purchased from war surplus in 1919 and briefly used as operational trainers.

    Rumpler C.I was one of the most numerous German planes in Polish use, with total of 84 equipping mostly schools, but some ending up also in eight Polish and one allied Belorussian squadrons. Thanks to a series of fatal accidents, they were considered dangerous and scrapped in early 1921.

    Polish aviation used total of 38 Rumpler C.IV in four squadrons (three Polish, one allied Belorussian) and two schools. Although initially considered good planes, opinion about them quickly changed after a series of crashes in which 13 aircraft and 15 aviators were lost, leading to grounding order for the type and their subsequent scrapping.

    Total of 10 Rumpler C.VII aircraft served in Poland - they were both captured planes, as well as purchased from war surplus - and were used in two squadrons and temporarily in one school. Although lacked fatal design faults of C.IV, by association they shared poor opinion about the type, compounded by difficult handling and fragile engines. Most of them remained in service until 1921, with last two serving until 1922.

    Despite "C" reconaissance designation, Rumpler C.VIII was in fact operational trainer. 6 such aircraft were used in Poland, in two squadrons and one school. They remained in service until August 1920.

    Single Sablatnik SF.5 floatplane was used between 1920 and 1923 by Polish naval aviation.
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    Default Puting a polish on the Poles in 1920

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    Błękitna Armia (Blue Army), or Haller's Army, was the Polish army formed in France in the latter stages of World War I. The names come from the troops' French blue uniforms and the army's commander, General Józef Haller de Hallenburg. The army was created in June 1917 as part of Polish units allied with the Entente. The first units were formed after the signing of a 1917 alliance by French President Raymond Poincaré and the Polish statesman Ignacy Jan Paderewski. A majority of recruits were either Poles serving in the French army, or former prisoners of war from the German and Austro-Hungarian imperial armies (approximately 35,000 men). An additional 23,000 were Polish Americans. Other Poles flocked to the army from all over the world as well — these units included recruits from the former Russian Expeditionary Force in France and the Polish diaspora in Brazil (more than 300 men).

    The army was initially under French political control and under the military command of General Louis Archinard. However, on February 23, 1918, political sovereignty was granted to the Polish National Committee and soon other Polish units were formed, most notably the 4th and 5th Rifle Divisions in Russia. On September 28 Russia formally signed an agreement with the Entente that accepted the Polish units in France as the only, independent, allied and co-belligerent Polish army. On October 4, 1918 the National Committee appointed General Józef Haller de Hallenburg as overall commander.*

    Training of personnel for the Awiacja Armii Polskiej we Francji (Aviation of the Polish Army in France) begun in mid-1917. From the spring of next year seven French squadrons were attached to it (5 reconnaissance and one each bomber and fighter), initially with French personnel, gradually replaced with Polish. They were accompanied by 1 Park Lotniczy (1st Air Depot) and flight school. Unfortunately, very little is known about their participation in the Great War. In may and june of 1919 Armia Polska we Francji, together with its aviation was transported to Poland and incorporated into national armed forces, while it's air units were subsequently renamed.

    Most numerous aircraft of the Awiacja Armii Polskiej was very popular Breguet XIV. In may 1919 total of 45 were in service, including 27 in reconnaissance version A2 (20 in squadrons Bre.39 and Bre.59, 6 in air depot and one attached to the Headquarters of the French Military Mission), and 18 in bomber version B2 (15 in squadron Bre.66 and 3 in air depot). Later more planes of these types were purchased by Poland.

    Remaining three reconnaissance squadrons (Sal.580, Sal.581 and Sal.582) were equipped with 39 (including attrition spares) Salmson 2A2 planes. Further planes were obtained by independent Poland.

    Only fighter squadron of the Awiacja Armii Polskiej, the Spa.162, was equipped with 18 SPAD VIIc1 biplanes. Planes of that type were also used by Polish aviation units formed in Russia, and more were bought after the war.

    I Korpus Polski w Rosji (Polish I Corps in Russia) was a Polish military formation formed in Belarus, in August 1917 in the aftermath of the Russian Revolution of 1917, from soldiers of Polish origin serving in the Russian Army. Its goal was to defend Poles inhabiting parts of Poland under Russian partitions and support the formation of independent Poland.
    The Corps was formed at the initiative of the Naczelny Polski Komitet Wojskowy (Chief Polish Military Committee), a Polish faction in the revolutionary and split Russian Empire military. It was commanded by general Józef Dowbor-Muśnicki, and numbered about 29,000 soldiers. In the chaotic period at the end of the First World War on the Eastern Front, the Polish I Corps fought against the Bolshevik Red Army, cooperated with the German Ober Ost forces in taking Minsk, and after acknowledging the Regency Council in May 1918, it surrendered to the German forces in Babruysk. The soldiers were given safe passage to Warsaw, where they became part of the newly created Polish Army.*

    Awiacja I Korpusu Polskiego (Aviation of the 1st Polish Corps was formed in Minsk on 19 july 1917. Initially the unit led by cpt. Zygmunt Studziński posessed only one unarmed Nieuport 11c1. Shortly after lt.col. Piotr Abakanowicz took comand of the unit and organized it's tranfer to Bobrujsk (Babruysk), and on their way there unit's personnel encountered group of polish railway worker who helped them "liberate" some 16 combat aircraft from railway transport. In march 1918 polish troops captured single Ilya Muromets G-II bomber together with its crew and pressed it into service in the unit. Together with whole Corps, groupsurrendered in may 1918 to the German forces.

    Polski Oddział Awiacyjny Bojowy (1st Polish Aviational Combat Detachment) was formed in Dunajowice near Kamieniec Podolski (Kamianets-Podilskyi) in december 1917. Most of the pilots and ground personnel came from the former Russian XIX Istriebityelny Aviaotryad (19th Fighter Air Detachment) formed in 1915 in Warsaw with high precentage of personnel of Polish origin. They flew on SPAD S.VII, Farman F.30, Anatra Anasal, Nieuport 21E1 and Nieuport 23C1 aircraft.

    Polski Oddział Awiacyjny w Odessie (Polish Aviational Detachment in Odessa) was formed in Odessa in 1917 from Polish pilots of the City of Odessa Defense Squadron. Equipment included Anatra Anasal, Lebed XII, Morane-Saulnier MS-3(L) and MS-5 planes

    II Polski Oddział Awiacyjny (2nd Polish Aviational Detachment) was formed in december 1917 as a result of merger of Russian XIV Aviaotryad (14th Aviational Detachment) and independent air unit led by rotmistrz (rittmeister) Niżewski. Unit owned one Morane-Saulnier L, two Nieuport 16c1 and one SPAD plane.

    I Oddział Awiacyjny Wojsk Polskich (1st Aviational Detachment of Polish Forces was formed with French consent in october 1918 in Kubanarea of southern Russia from Polish aviators (of Polish Corps') that evaded capture by Germans and Austrians. It was assigned to Polish 4 Dywizja Strzelców (4th Rifle Division) also formed in that area as detached part of Blue Army and supporting Entente intervention in Russian civil war. In december 1918 unit was transported by sea to Odessa where it received initially only two Anatra planes and one LVG C.V. In february 1919 it was renamed to Eskadra Lotnicza 4 Dywizji Strzelców (Aviational Squadron of the 4th Rifle Division). In april 1919, on the eve of the units evacuation to Romania, lieut. Ludomir Rayski obtained from one of French squadrons single damaged Breguet XIVB2 (sometimes mistaken with A2 model). After whole night-long repair by Polish technicians it was made flyable and flew to Akerman, shortly after joined by rest of the unit on its way to Poland.
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    Although today the ceremonial date of the regaining of independence by Poland is set on 11 november (1918), it was actually a long, gradual and complicated process that - for various territories - extended over the course of almost four years (1918-1922).

    First part of Poland that declared independence after 123 years of partitions was Królestwo Polskie (Kingdom of Poland) - former Russian partition, since 1915 under German-Austrian occupation, whose figurehead Polish authorities, Rada Regencyjna (Regency Council) issued a proclamation of independence on 7 october 1918. However due to strong German-Austrian forces of occupation it had initially limited practical effect until after 11 november 1918 when a negotiaded disarming and withdrawal of these forces begun.

    Next to threw off the foreign yoke was the Austrian partition: Galicja (not to be confused with Spanish Galicia), where on 31 october 1918 Polska Komisja Likwidacyjna Galicji i Śląska Cieszyńskiego (Polish Liquidation Commitee of Galicja and Cieszyn Silesia took control of Kraków from Austrian authorities (disarming, in the process, local garrison) and day later fighting erupted in Lwów between Poles and Ukrainian nationalists (that lasted until 22 november, with whole Polish-Ukrainian War lasting until 17 july 1919 and ending with Poland's victory).

    Process of gaining indepencence in the German partition was more prolonged, though. It started in Wielkopolska (Greater Poland) with the eruption of the uprising on 27 december 1918, that lasted until 16 february 1919 (and also ended with Poland's victory). It was followed by three Silesian Uprisings (16-24 august 1919, 19-25 august 1920, 2 may-5 july 1921), which although not fully succesful, managed to achieve 1/3 of disputed territories with 50% of industry and 76% of coal mines (it's main economical asset). Finally, between 18 january and 11 february 1920 Pomorze (Pomerania - actually it's eastern part), awarded to Poland in the Versailles Treaty and taken over gradually after the withdrawal of German troops.

    On the eastern frontier the process was even more prolonged and bloody. On the south-east it was already mentioned Polish Ukrainian war. Along the whole eastern border it was followed by two-year long Polish-Soviet War from 14 february 1919. It's most extreme territorial highlights was Polish-Ukrainian (who, by then, become our allies against bolsheviks) capture of Kiev from Soviets on 7 may 1920, followed by Soviet counter-offensive that ended with a decisive battle at the gates of Warsaw (12-25 august 1920), ending in great victory of Poland under marshal Józef Piłsudski and total rout of Soviet forces under leadership of Mikhail Tukhachevsky. That in turn led to ceasefire on 18 october 1920 and formal peace treaty signed in Riga (Latvia) on 18 march 1921.

    Last major part of Poland's independence process was gaining of Wilno (Vilnius, today's capital of Lithuania) and it's surroundings. Posession of the city was hotly disputed between newly-independent Lithuania (for which it was historical capital) and Poland (overwhelming majority of the region inhabitants were Polish and Jewish, with less than 3% Lithuanian). Because of the international complications that would result in a forceful attempt to capture the city by regular Polish Army, a fake "mutiny" of one of the divisions (formed from volunteers from that region) was staged, leading to the creation of nominally-independent Republika Litwy Środkowej (Republic of Central Lithuania) that subsequently declared it's will to join Rzeczpospolita Polska ( Republic of Poland), which took place on 18 april 1922.


    Process of creation of the Polish military aviation (at home) reflected all these events.
    It began with the capture of the airfield in Kraków on 31 october-3 november 1918 with some 30 aircraft, followed by airfields at Przemyśl (31 october), Lwów (3 november) and Lublin. From 11 november airfields in Kingdom of Poland were taken into Polish hands, including Warsaw's Pole Mokotowskie (Mokotów Field) airfield with 70 aircraft. Altogether in Kingdom and Galicja a total of 206 airframes of 30 types and 232 engines of 14 types were captured, allowing to create first eskadry (sing. eskadra - squadron) of the Polish military aviation - although shortage of qualified personnel of Polish origin (being present in country) was a significant obstacle (less than 200 men in early 1919). One squadron each was formed in Kraków and Warsaw, two in Lwów and an demi-squadron was formed in Lublin.

    These events were followed by creation of higher command and administrative authorities. On 14 november 1918 a Sekcja Żeglugi Powietrznej Departamentu Technicznego Ministerstwa Spraw Wojskowych (Section of Aerial Navigation of the Technical Department of the Ministry of Military Affairs, short name of ministry was MSWojsk.) was formed, headed by lt.col. Hipolit Łossowski. It was reorganized into Szefostwo Lotnictwa przy Naczelnym Dowództwie (Chief Administration of Aviation at Supreme Command), and in march 1919 into Inspektorat Wojsk Lotniczych MSWojsk. (Inspectorate of Aviational Forces of the MMilA), all initially headed by Łossowski.

    Major strenghtening of the Polish military aviation occured as a result of the uprising in Greater Poland. On 6 january 1919 Poznań airfields (Ławica and Winiary) were captured with 300 airplanes (about 70 of them flyable, rest stored). Together with some planes captured elsewhere in the region it allowed creation of local air squadrons which on 9 jaunary conducted first aerial bombardement by independent Poland's military aviation (on Frankfurt airfield).

    In may 1919 gen. Józef Haller's Błękitna Armia (Blue Army) had arrived from France, together with it's 7 squadrons, flight school and some 100 planes. In june the air squadron of the 4 Dywizja Strzelców (4th Rifle Division) arrived from southern Russia via Romania, although without airplanes. Around the same time negotiations begun to secretly purchase certain amount of aircraft from German war surplus.

    In september 1919 "central" air force, Greater Poland air force and Blue Army aviation were merged, with the col. (from 1920 brig.gen.) Gustaw Macewicz becoming the head of the unified force. Together it numbered 22 squadrons - 11 from Kingdom and Galicja, 4 from Greater Poland and 7 from Blue Army, as well as three aviation schools (with fourth, offering advanced course, was formed in Poznań shortly after). Some reorganization and streamlining followed, and in the end of 1919 Polish aviation had 19 squadrons with 130 aircraft (nominal squadron strength was 6 aircraft).

    Eventually, during the course of the 1918-1921 conflicts, Polish air force had 20 "full" squadrons - 4 fighter, 1 bomber and 15 reconnaissance. Total of 8 schools were formed (4 for pilots, 4 for observers and 2 for ground personnel) which until november 1920 trained 285 pilots, 81 observers and 502 technicians. War-time conditions necessitated an influx of further airplanes. Besides those captured from Germany, Austria and later also Ukraine and Soviet Russia (total number of captured planes from all sources could be around 968), large numbers were obtained elsewhere. Some were secretly purchased in Germany. Significant amount was donated by France and more were bought. Also significant purchases were made in Great Britain and Italy. In Kraków and Lwów airfield workshops started production of Brandenburg B.I trainer of which several dozen were made. In total, between 1918 and 1920 Polish air force had some 1800 planes of over 100 types/models/sub-variants (although not all of them simultaneously, with certain number of these being just single planes, not always in flyable conditions, many more were worn-out and used only very briefly). Significant problem in the development of the force was shortage of qualified personnel - in february 1920 vacancies amounted to 30% of pilots, 45% of observers and 40% of ground technicians.

    Initially Polish air force fought in separate squadrons, attached as needed to particular armies or fronts (army groups). From early 1920 they were combined into Grupy Lotnicze (sing. Grupa Lotnicza, Aviational Group), in april 1920 renamed into Dywizjony (sing. Dywizjon, rougly Wing equivalents) - 4 reconnaissance, 2 fighter and 3 reserve. Also in 1920, after gaining access to Baltic, naval aviation was formed in form of Morski Dywizjon Lotniczy (Maritime Air Wing - sometimes translated as Naval Air Squadron - issues with translation of Polish terms "eskadra" and "dywizjon" into english are described here, in point 4: viewtopic.php?p=66411#p66411) with base in Puck.

    In the course of the 1918-1921 conflicts Polish aviators flew total of 5000 sorties in 9465 hours. In dogfights shot 7 aircraft (4 Soviet and 3 Ukrainian) and 3 balloons, losing 3 aircraft in air-to-air combat and 34 more due to ground fire. 116 aviators were killed (more than half of them in accidents, though).

    In 1920 Polskie Lotnictwo Wojskowe (Polish Military Aviation - the name being ultimately adapted as formal one) had 210 combat aircraft and 420 pilots and observers. After the war it was partially demobilized and reorganized (but that will be described later).
    After the war, at least 33 (54?) Austria-Hungarian machines were found in the Polish hands and they were used during the Polish-Ukrainian War and Polish-Soviet War.*

    The Hansa-Brandenburg B.I was an unarmed military trainer and reconnaissance biplane of World War I flown by the Austro-Hungarian Air Service. After the war some numbers were found and use by Polish pilots for trening and combat missions.

    part from their service with the Austro-Hungarian flying service, ten Hansa-Brandenburg C.IIs saw service with Poland. These were captured in Małopolska ( Malopolska ) in November 1918 and were used as trainers until being withdrawn from service in 1920.*

    The (Lloyd C.V) type saw only brief front-line service in Great War before being relegated to secondary duties. A number continued in service after the war with the military forces of Poland, Hungary, and the Ukraine. In Poland, six aircraft were operated until 1924, nicknamed Fornir ( Veneer ).*

    The Oesterreichische Flugzeugfabrik AG (Oeffag) in Wiener-Neustadt, had built reconnaissance planes and flying boats for the Austro-Hungarian Army since 1915. 4 captured planes (C.I) served in Polish forces for short time

    Oeffag C.II was successor of C.I model, C.II was the first aircraft of the Polish Air Force to complete a combat mission, on 5 November 1919, even before official acknowledgement of independence, during Lwów ( Lviv ) defence, flown by kpt. pil. Stefan Bastyr and por. obs. Janusz de Beaurain.

    In the autumn of 1916, Oesterreichische Flugzeugfabrik AG (Oeffag) obtained a licence to build the D.III at Wiener-Neustadt. Deliveries commenced in May 1917. After the Armistice, Poland acquired 38 series 253 aircraft, and operated them in the Polish-Soviet War of 1919-20. They were primarily employed in ground attack duties. The Poles thought so highly of the D.III that they sent a letter of commendation to the Oeffag factory.
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    There is a great deal of detailed background information there Zoe.
    I'm sure that those embarking on the Polish Air force will be very grateful to you for this.
    Thanks.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Only seven of these Nieuport 17 fighters found their way into the Polish hands, with just two of them being used operationally. Career of N17's in Poland ended in 1920, with their last assignments being training ones.

    Additional seven Nieuport 21's were captured and served for a short time as fighter trainers.

    Several (possibly up to 15) Nieuport 23's were captured as well, mostly from Russian forces, with one of them being put into service in the flight school.

    Also, Polish military aviation used single Nieuport 24c1, with an unusual "red devil" symbol

    Only 5 Nieuport 24bis, with old rudder type from Nieuport 17c1, served in the Polish aviation. The one presented here belonged to lieutenant Popov, who defected with his plane from the Red Army.

    Although designed as recon planes, Nieuports 80/81/83 were used only as trainers. They differed in having flight controle either just for the pilot in the rear seat (81E2), or both for pilots (80E2).

    Eighteen SPAD S.VII's served in 7 and 19 Eskadra Myśliwska (7th, 19th Fighter Squadron) in 1919. Year later some six of them were transferred to Szkoła Pilotów (Pilot's School) in Bydgoszcz

    Slightly bigger version of S.VII, the S.XIII, while more powerful and better armed, due to higher weight had also slightly deteriorated flight characteristics. Almost 40 served in the Polish military aviation until around 1924.

    Around 53 Salmson 2A2's served in the Polish military aviation, most of them being ex-Blue Army planes, with some more purchased later from France. Used as reconnaissance aircraft, in 1921 they were withdrawn from service

    Another ex-Blue Army plane, the Breguet XIV was a basic machine of Polish reconnaissance squadrons it that early period, with a total of around 158 being used until 1935

    Poland was also a significant user of Caudron G.III trainers, with 51 of these being used until 1927

    Five MS.29 and twenty-one MS.30 advanced trainers were used in Polish flight schools. MS.29 was used only between 1919 and 1922 in Warsaw and later Bydgoszcz for familiarization of students with ground handling of aircraft during taxiing, and therefore had most of their wings cut to prevent accidental take-off. MS.30's were used as advanced trainers until mid-1920s

    Sekcja Techniczna Departamentu do spraw Morskich MSWojsk (Technical Section of the Department of Maritime Affairs of the Ministry of Military Affairs) ordered in 1921 from Societa Idrovolanti Alfa Italo (SIAI) nine FBA S-4 seaplanes. Only one of them was assembled, though, with rest being revealed to be damaged due to storing in improper (too humid) conditions.

    Polish military aviation had also a number of captured Farman 30 and Voisin 30 planes, but there are basically no sources about their camouflage.
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    This is a great condensed info on the topic Thanks Zoe.

    I am slowly building up my 1918-20 Polish Air Force and it's counterparts. Now the time has come to repaint the mighty GOTHA
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    Then there's Italy....

    In the summer of 1919 Polish military mission in Italy signed a contract for 35 Ansaldo A.1 Balilla fighters, which were delivered since early 1920. They were used in late stages of Polish-Soviet war, equipping single fighter squadron and later also several training units.

    Three single-seat reconaissance planes SVA.5 were delivered to Poland in 1920. They served in various units until 1922.

    Between 1920 and 1921 total of 90 SVA.10 reconnaissance aircraft were delivered to Polish military aviation. They entered service shortly after cessation of Polish-Soviet hostilities
    England...
    Total of 106 Bristol Fighter two-seaters were delivered in the second half of the 1920. First of them already took part in the victorious battle of Warsaw. Ultimately they equipped five front-line squadrons (until 1925-1926) and several training units, where last of them served until 1932.

    In the early 1920 two RAF SE.5a fighters arrived in Poland. One of them was damaged during landing and scrapped just few days after delivery, second was assigned to 7 Eskadra Myśliwska (7th Fighter Squadron) and served on the front-line until it was shot down in August 1920.

    One Sopwith Camel fighter, owned by American volunteer cpt. Kenneth M. Murray, flew between September 1920 and July 1921 in 7 Eskadra Myśliwska ..

    10 Sopwith Dolphin fighters were delivered to Poland during spring 1920 and in August 1920 they were assigned to 19 Eskadra Myśliwska (19th Fighter Squadron) With two being later transferred to allied Ukrainian aviation. They served until early 1921 and were scrapped about year later.
    ... and more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightbomber View Post
    This is a great condensed info on the topic Thanks Zoe.

    I am slowly building up my 1918-20 Polish Air Force and it's counterparts. Now the time has come to repaint the mighty GOTHA
    I'd never have expected that Andy, but then no one expects the Polish Gotha.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    There are so many facts and stories to tell about the birth of our Air Force in 1918. I read a book of Hubert Mordawski, a competent author who made a complete research on this.

    One of the fantastic stories: during summer of 1920 Polish Military authorities were desperately seeking fighter supplies. Besides British and French governmental sources, they made some contracts "in cash" with German factories, which took the money and prepared the planes on time. The man who commanded a group of German flyers, who was bringing Fokkers D.VII to Ławica aerodrome in Poland was Hauptmann BISMARCK, the ascendant of the first German Chancellor, Otto von Bismarck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Officer Kyte View Post
    I'd never have expected that Andy, but then no one expects the Polish Gotha.
    Rob.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Officer Kyte View Post
    I'd never have expected that Andy, but then no one expects the Polish Gotha.
    Rob.





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    Indeed, Zoe, this is the model I am thinking of. Your one looks splendid
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    Yet another superb addition to your air fleet Zoe.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    I've had it for a while. I'm sure Nightbomber - a better modeller than I am - can produce something even better.

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    Thanks Zoe: more post-war fun, as well as what-if fodder

    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Officer Kyte View Post
    I'd never have expected that Andy, but then no one expects the Polish Gotha.
    Rob.
    Hmm, I might be buying a couple of Gothas with the re-issue after all. And here I thought 6 was enough
    Karl
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