Morane-Saulnier Type I

[john snelling]

The RFC wanted to further the development of the Type N by equipping it with a powerful 110hp Le Rhone engine. The dimensions were very similiar to the Type N although the wingspan and elevators were slightly larger. The armament was a synchronized 0.303 Vickers machine gun. Morane-Saulnier Type I prototype was completed in March 1916.

The French were in the vested in producing the Nieuport 11 so showed no real interest. But did make 4 Type Is (MS733, MS744, MS735, and MS746) that were delivered to the 60th Squadron. The British pilots found the aircraft to be fast but very demanding to fly the aircraft were taken to England for training purposes in Oct 1916.

At least 20 Type I fighters were ordered, but not all delivered, by the Imperial Russian Air Service and more were produced in Russia.

Max speed: 164 kmh Some sources say 176 kmh
climb to 1,000 m: 2 min 50 sec
climb to 2,000 m: 6 min 45 sec
climb to 3,000 m: 12 min 40 sec
ceiling 4,700

Since the Type N and Type I so closely resembled each other there is no need to have another aircraft.
Would the speed increase would warrant the J deck?

[flash]

The speeds you've quoted fall within the 161-180kph 'average' bracket of the J deck in the 'Tools for Working Out Stats' the committee produced John so it fits the bill. It looks as though it was 20kph faster (give or take) than the standard N. Would be a nice option to play on the table.

[Jager]

I would say the J deck would fit the bill; it has the same maneuver set as the T deck, which doesn't show any right bias other rotary planes have, so the I deck is probably not right.
I would be a bit conservative and go with a climb of 3 and ceiling of 11. Keep the same 10 hits as the N, and of course, B guns.
Karl

[john snelling]

The speeds you've quoted fall within the 161-180kph 'average' bracket of the J deck in the 'Tools for Working Out Stats' the committee produced John so it fits the bill. It looks as though it was 20kph faster (give or take) than the standard N. Would be a nice option to play on the table.

I agree, I also think it would be a nice option on the table. I've been planning on playing some Russian aircraft soon.

[john snelling]

I would say the J deck would fit the bill; it has the same maneuver set as the T deck, which doesn't show any right bias other rotary planes have, so the I deck is probably not right.
I would be a bit conservative and go with a climb of 3 and ceiling of 11. Keep the same 10 hits as the N, and of course, B guns.
Karl

Thanks for your reply.

[fast.git]

This is very cool... Hadn't heard of the Type I. I like that it's represented by stuff I've already got sitting in my hangar!

[Flying Officer Kyte]

I agree with Chris. gives the Morane a new lease of life.
Time to see how the upgrade fares against the Eindekkers.
thanks for the info John.
Rob.

[flash]

Looks like C flight 60 sqn started re-equipping with the Type 1 29th July 16 just before they were withdrawn from the frontline to St Andre-au Bois for training; back to action on the 23rd so seeing them up against Halbs & Albs is a distinct possibility too Rob !

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Looks like C flight 60 sqn started re-equipping with the Type 1 29th July 16 just before they were withdrawn from the frontline to St Andre-au Bois for training; back to action on the 23rd so seeing them up against Halbs & Albs is a distinct possibility too Rob !

Well I guess you win some and lose some!
Rob.

[fast.git]

Looks like C flight 60 sqn started re-equipping with the Type 1 29th July 16 just before they were withdrawn from the frontline to St Andre-au Bois for training; back to action on the 23rd so seeing them up against Halbs & Albs is a distinct possibility too Rob !

Excellent news. Looks like I've got to scuffle about for a few RFC roundels... I've got a couple Ns tabbed for delivery to English units early in '16.

[Jager]

Would the M-S I be without the spinner, since they were taking them off the Ns to improve engine cooling?
Karl

[Dom S]

Possibly, but not always if so - the only I depicted in the 60 squadron Osprey (A199) is shown with spinner.

[fast.git]

Possibly, but not always if so - the only I depicted in the 60 squadron Osprey (A199) is shown with spinner.

That certainly makes the conversion easier...

[Dom S]

Yep - no need to go fishing around for a spinner-free prop - just decide if you want to replace the gun with something slightly thicker for the Vickers, or whether, screw it, it looks fine anyway....

[Zoe Brain]

[john snelling]

Thanks Zoe for the pics.

[MoonSylver]

I agree, I also think it would be a nice option on the table. I've been planning on playing some Russian aircraft soon.

*Nods* I have some paper Russians I'd like to do up very soon (including that wonderful one in Zoe's 1st pic w/ the skull & crossbones tail). I'd like to do some in British markings as well.