...So marvellous!
I did not take the pictures but I am quite sure that you can use them. Just ask Michael if you want to be sure. (Send you a pm with his email adress.)
thank's my friend !
It 's done !
Those rocket Nieuports look crazy!
Cannot wait to get the blue-green Rumpler, the blue-yellow Pfalz and Bishops SE5...
And than all the others.
So far I have all planes from the first serie and majorities from the others but the fourth may likely be my second I-need-them-all serie.
I've already instructed my FLGS that I will NEED at least one of each Balloon and Set 4, then I'll likely buy another SE5a and Pfalz or 2 for repaints.
Found these on another site, thought I'd share them, sorry if they have already been posted
TD
Any word on when they will be released?
wow! they're great...can't wait to see them, did someone say late May release date?
I wonder why the packing of the Balloon-Set is so big.
Well, it should have two damage decks in there, lots of counters, and range ruler and flight board I would think as well. Don't forget about the Balloon's base and the planes maneuver deck.
Late may is the suggested release date for Series 4.
Has anyone information about production figures of Rumpler C.IV? Finally the Germans get a real multipurpose two-seater, although the old Roland looks more handsome.
Less than a 100 according to "http://www.theaerodrome.com".
Regards
Kaare Myltoft
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It's been interesting to watch Angi' do the plane selections for both WoW & DoW because they seem like a mix of iconic planes and lower production or region specific variations.
While I'm all for variety, I sort of feel like the niche planes should be relegated to their own series while the high production number widely deployed planes should get precedence.
Variety is the spice of life I suppose...
I'd see to it, if I can convince Nexus to get some pre production models to the show in Cologne Germany for the record attempt, will tryLate may is the suggested release date for Series 4.
They're already so far behind on all the other releases I have to wonder how everything shakes out at this point! Believe me, I'm totally happy for the delays personally because I've only got Series 1 & 2 minis....still need to get series 3...but by that same taken...the guys who have everything at this point are probably pulling their hair out in anticipation!
Nothing official on the release date yet?
Also I was wondering why the Nieuport 17 and 23 have the same climb rate of 3 when the 23 had a bigger engine and all the info I find said the 23 climbs at 1000' per minute. Which is the same rate as the DR1 and the Camel which have a climb rate of 2??
Exactly! I've thought the same.
Don't have a definitive answer (you'll need Andrea A. for that), but most Nieuport 23s used a lighter version of the Le Rhone engine used in the Nieuport 17, rated just 10hp higher. Perhaps the stats you saw are for more powerful versions ?
Talking about odd climb rates, I read an account of a RFC squadron's encounter with the Flying Circus where the pilot (writing in his diary) noted that the German's Albatros DVas could outclimb their Camels.
So far my research, both online and at the library, has come up with the following climb rates:
Nieuport 17 855 ft/min
Nieuport 23 1,100 ft/min
Snipe 970 ft/min
Camel 1.085 ft/min
SPAD XIII 1,312 ft/min (one book said 384 ft/min)
SE 5a 1,000 ft/min
DRI 1,130 ft/min
DIII 886 ft/min
DVa 830 ft/min
DVII 787 ft/min
I am still trying to find more sources as some are contradictory but most of these make sense.
In addition to using the higher HP lighter engine the N-23 had the forward part of the fuselage streamlined as well as redesigned wings. It wasnt just the N-17 with 10 more hp.
Bill
They look right, as far as I can tell. Your D7 stat is correct for the original Mercedes powered fighter, the BMW equipped F model reportedly could outclimb any allied plane in service. Don't have any figures for it, however.
I wonder if aircraft speed and other data were also factors in assigning climb rates ? I'd be surprised if Mr A. made a mistake, given how well researched everything else is.
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I did a little more research and found better climb rates for the DVII. A couple of sources put it in the 1000 ft/min range and one that was more like 1,100. I think you are right it makes a difference which engine and at what altitude they are figuring it for. Same with speed. Assuming it is a max rate it must start at sea level is my assumption.
The rate for the SPAD looks too high on the one hand and too low on the other. I have never heard it was a apectacular climber and 1,300 would make it the best of the war. I have always heard the DRI was the best climber and the Snipe was the fastest.
Ah, I found some information about Rumpler's production. According to Windstock's Datafile #035 - Rumpler C.IV, the total production of C.IV (and maybe C.VII's too) seems to be 700 (by Rumpler). I can seek more details if someone is interested.
So, not so rare as Roland.
What is the latest release date for th Serice 4 miniatures
Yep, a combined total of 700 C.IV/C.VII seems to paint the best historical figure. The C.IV entered front line service in February 1917; production stopped in July 1918. The C.VII was introduced in Nov 1917 but carried no forward guns. In late 1918, 253 C.IVs were still in front line service.
Regret that while I keep front line service statistics on all planes I am sloppy at recording references - generally, I seek multiple sources however.
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Anyone know what is causing the delay in bringing out new models?
I have no idea. But I would rather they take thier time and get it right, rather than rush and muck it up.
An update from Andrea on the 10th of May:
I can not say anything about English language releases, that's a different
process, and that you can check on FFG's site.
Anyway, in the Old Continent I'd asy any second now. In Italy we are waiting for
WW2 Airplane Pack Series 2 (miniatures), "Flight of the Giants" (WW1 bombers),
"Hit & Run" and "Crossfire" (WW1 boosters), "Last Biplanes" and "Revolution in
the Sky" (WW2 boosters) withion May, to redistribute them in a week or two all
over Europe. I guess that a reprint of the game mats will come together with
them.
WW1 Airplane Pack Series 4 (miniatures) should be there in June instead.
The WW1 Deluxe Set is expected in July.
All the best,
Andrea
Better start saving up for those SE5a and Rumpler models !
It is good to get an update. At least we know where we are now. I can spend this months pension on other things.
Rob.
"Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."
Hmm, I hope the minis from the new Deluxe Set will also be available individually... otherwise there will be too many extra counters and damage cards.
The Deluxe set minis will only come in that set. I know that you could sell any extra cards and counters here on the site.
When will the Series 4 WW1minatures be released?
The Icelandic volcano and the ensuing chaos in the skies caused some delays (products travel by sea - but Auletta's drawings, prototypes to be approved and quiet a lot of other stuff by air, and TNT had big troubles delivering them), so here the updates. For Europe, as ever - check instead FFG's site for the rest of the world.
In Italy we already have WW2 Airplane Pack Series 2 (miniatures), that will reach local shops and european next week or so.
"Flight of the Giants" (WW1 bombers), "Hit & Run" and "Crossfire" (WW1 boosters), "Last Biplanes" and "Revolution in the Sky" (WW2 boosters) will be here in three weeks, to be redistributed in a week or two all over Italy and Europe.
The reprint of the game mats will be delayed so they will probably arrive together with WW1 Airplane Pack Series 4 (miniatures), that should be on shop shelves within July.
The WW1 Deluxe Set is now expected on sale within August.
Thanks for the update, Andrea.
Thank you for the update. Keep up the great work.
Thanks Andrea Alastair
Great news. I can now see a spending spree ahead of me . Thanks for keeping us informed
Andrea.
Rob.
"Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."
Darn it - I've only just completed my Series 1-3 collections!
My feeling is that with this release the game could result unbalanced.
A Pfalz D.III cannot compete with a Se.5a.
I think that the only aircraft capable of giving it a run for its money at the moment would be the Fokker DR.VII.
Why don't you sign in on the "Reporting for duty" thread and let us all know that another intrepid airman has arrived.
Good flying to you.
Rob. Aka. Flying Officer Kyte.
"Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."
That's exactly my point Rob: in the series released up to now, we found that the forces were rather balanced. Sopwith Snipe is a good match for a Fokker D.VII, as a Camel to a Dreidecker.
With my players, as a rule of thumb, we always opposed models from the same serie, to prevent one side to be advantaged.
From what I see of the IV serie, the Allied are gaining a VERY good and fast fighter, perhaps even better than the much feared Snipe, while the Central Empires get only a little stronger version of the Albatros D.III (as they share the same movemente deck).
I find surprising that they present in the same released two fighters clearly unfit to fight in the same match.
Anyways, next sunday I'm meeting Andrea at a Game Meeting here in Tuscany, I think I'll better ask him.
Btw, I'll sign in, but please don't call me "intrepid airman"... I'm not otaku to that point ;-)
Btw, I'll sign in, but please don't call me "intrepid airman"... I'm not otaku to that point ;-)
Very sorry! It won't happen again. I just try to keep in the spirit of the game because I am totally "otaku" old bean.
Rob.
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