For you guys that did Dr1 repaints, did you seperate the wings or disassemble the model at all? I've got a Lothar Dr1 that is about to become my first try at repainting.
Fokker Dr 1 Painting Question
For you guys that did Dr1 repaints, did you seperate the wings or disassemble the model at all? I've got a Lothar Dr1 that is about to become my first try at repainting.
Yes I disassemble allways. I use a product called super clean. Just drop plane into container filled with super clean forget for a week. Then remove gently wash in water and gently pry apart . If plane does not come apart easly put back in super clean and repeat
Never heard of Super Clean. Where do you get it?
I just stripped a DVa with a Lozenge pattern and it was a bit of work even after a coupe of days in the pine sol.Plus it did not loosen the planes structure. I need something better.
To loosen the structure pop in the freezer overnight, then drop into water almost boiling but not quite.
The rapid heating will shock the joints and they should come apart quite easily. For stubborn ones just repeat.
Rob.
"Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."
Although I have done many repaints so far, not a single model has been disassembled. There are some reasons for that:
1. Time and effort. It would take much more time. Not my style.
2. Possible damage to the model.
3. They are just gaming pieces. It shall look perfect - from a gaming table distance. And they do.
It's individual choice after all.
"We do not stop playing when we get old, but we get old when we stop playing."
You can get Super Clean at Wall mart in automotive dept
I didn't disassemble mine or strip the paint - usually find the paint covers or I undercoat first then topcoat depending on paint colour to be used.Originally Posted by rkwright
Freeze then boil!? I bet the little pilot figures hate that! Seriously you guys come up with some great ideas.
I've only done one Triplane, and I didn't disassemble it.
I have some more to do, and these will need decals adding to the top of all three wings, so I might have to disassemble them.
I have repainted a few aircraft, if painting I don't tend to strip down the model, if re-decaling I do.
I use the freezer method, pop in overnight, drop in very hot water, not boiling, but hot, prise apart. As WingCo said, if fails do it again.
Last edited by Boney10; 01-25-2014 at 14:11.
Thanks for the input. Any advice on the paint/coloring? I'm looking for something similar to the green on the Rahn Dr1.
Try this
http://www.fokkerdr1.com
Oh wow awesome resource. I wasn't clear in my question. I was asking what paint you would use t get that green/grey/yellowish color. Like model masters dark green, tamiya # whatever, etc.
Well I am about to assign two of my spare planes to participate in this little freezer/hot water experiment. Problem is I do not know if I should use the freezer or just toss them outside! I'll let you know tomorrow how it went.
Outside might be too cold
And you might lose them in the snow, which we weren't supposed to get today, but here it is
Karl
It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus
You are right. We got snow but today the black ice is everywhere. The road looks wet but it cannot be water when it is five degrees! The drive to church was stimulating.
Although I have done many repaints so far, not a single model has been disassembled. There are some reasons for that:
1. Time and effort. It would take much more time. Not my style.
2. Possible damage to the model.
3. They are just gaming pieces. It shall look perfect - from a gaming table distance. And they do.
It's individual choice after all.I am with you Andy I have never disassembled any to repaint & I paint up Shapeways which come usually in one piece.
You just have to be careful when you paint!
Ahh sorry.
I use a Revell GreenGrey for overall colour then go over with a wash of green also Revell, then dry brush With GW foundation Iyunden Darksun
I take mine apart only if the new paint job requires it.
I use:
Base green color = Vallejo Cam. Olive Green
Fokker Streaks = Vallejo Model Air Panzer Ochre 1943
Under Wing blue = Vallejo custom mixed, 75 parts White, 4 parts Sky Blue
To get this:
Thanks for the responses. Thats encouraging on the disassemby. I was considering doing it, and pretty much assumed everyone was doing it.
Hi Ryan. I'll chime in here.
I've done several repaints, almost all Dr.Is (and one D.VII) (which you can see in the Painting Showcase), and I've never disassembled a model.
I think it depends on your level of confidence in disassembly vs your level of confidence with the brush. For me personally, I'm extremely confident in the steadiness of my hands and ability to hit tight spaces with a brush - and even with a tricky model like the Fokker triplane, you can easily get to all the places you need to repaint with a small brush without disassembling the model.
On the other hand, I have never disassembled a Wings model, and even with all the great guides on this site, I wouldn't be very confident in doing so. So I stick to doing repaints of fully assembled models using careful brushwork.
I think it's really up to you which way to go! In any case, please let us know how they turn out!
The main reason for my doing a disassemble is in cases where all over decalls are required especially wing Camo which can be a devil to fit between the struts.
Rob.
"Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."
Well I gave it my first attempt today. I need to order some crosses from the store... but here it is! Just some free hand brush work.
WOW thats great, now if we can find sites like that for the other planes
+1
Nice work Ryan.Well I gave it my first attempt today. I need to order some crosses from the store... but here it is! Just some free hand brush work.
Ever made your own decals?
Nice job Ryan.
Rob.
"Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."
@Captain Chum: On the Decals: No? How do you do make your own?
Last edited by rkwright; 02-03-2014 at 11:25.
Looks very good, Ryan! Steinhauser was an ambitious choice for your first attempt, but you did a great job. I didn't dare attempt his plane until I had already repainted 5 or 6 other tripes, and I still wasn't super happy with how mine turned out. Those stripes and the fuselage crosses are a bear.
Very nicely done Ryan, hard to believe your first repaint, congrats
With this:
The decal paper runs around 11.00 per package. You get 6 sheets in each package and comes in white or clear. The white paper is used for images that contain white in the image or you want your background color to be white. Printers do not print white except for some specialty printers.
The clear paper is just that. The background on your decal will be clear when applying to your plane.
You will need this too:
The decal bonder is a sealer/glue. The decal bonder runs around $5.00 per can. After you have printed out your decals you will need to spray them with the decal bonder to seal the ink to the decal paper before dunking in the water.
Last thing you will need is an inkjet printer. I really like doing my own decals. Since you are printing out your own images on the decal paper your options are limitless. If you check out my profile you will see the Red Baron Pizza plane that I did. The decals of the little pizza boxes/logo and such were all made at my desk. You really are limitless to what you want to make a decal of. Only tip is that you want to print dry runs on regular paper and test fit before printing on the decal paper. A little tedious, sure....but I can get exactly what I want as a end result that way. Most recently, the decal of the face on the engine cowl of Werner Voss' Fokker that I just did is a decal that I printed out.
Lastly, with the size of the decals for these little planes, you can make ton of different decals. In other words, a package of decal paper and sealer goes a long ways.
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