Yeah but theres a difference between big balloons and fiddly little minis that need the letters to be perfectly straight. I personally would stay away from them if you have to do it yourself which is a real shame... I still think WGS needs to weigh heavily in the newcomers favour rather than going down this customising everything road. But just my 2 centsOriginally Posted by Carl_Brisgamer
Since the alternative would almost certainly be no option for multiple aircraft from the same unit--there's just no way Ares could or would release, say, six to eight almost identical miniatures of each plane, nor would distributors or brick-and-mortar stores go for it if they did--I have to disagree. The ability to customize models and have several from the same units would be a big help for those interested in gaming the Battles of Britain and Midway. Really, really don't want to see the use of strikingly different paint schemes continue to be the only approach; in the case of the WoW Spitfire I/II, it meant that the only model of the four released that was a fighter in the BoB was in the boxed set. Besides, squadron codes can be done as a 'block,' incorporating the national insignia, when necessary (as 144-Direct does for his Battle of Britain decal sets), greatly reducing the difficulty of applying them.
I guess that is my main concern, the difficulty of applying them and getting it horribly wrong.
Having used Mehusla (144-Direct)'s BoB decals and having done it the hard way, with his and Microscale's alphabet sets and applying one letter at a time, believe me, Sam, I understand your concern. As long as Ares goes the smart route--squadron code 'blocks' including the national insignia for the RAF, similar ones incorporating numbers, tactical symbols, and national insignia for the Luftwaffe, etc.--using the decals shouldn't be too bad.
Now that the series 6 models are becoming available Ares need to update the official Climb Rates and Maximum Altitude table.
Hi Dave,
Are there cards in the mini packs with the climb rate/altitude for the respective aircraft?
I am sorry, Carl, but I do not have any of the models yet.
No there is not.
Have the official climb and altitude stats been published for the 109K, the P-47 and the Judys?
I checked Ares download site, nothing yet.
What stats did they use at Origins?
As far as I can remember, I don't think we flew them in any of the events.
LL member Dan-Sam hosted a mission with P-47s and Bf.109Ks.
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Is there a thread for the BoB releases? I can't find it. Just wondering what the odds are of the Galland making an appearance in that....
I would think Galland would be the consensus pick for reprinting. But please, do not let them reprint it with the hideous new oversized props the 109K received! They look awful!
My understanding of these types of threads is that some-one gets a pre-release notice, or notices something on an official Ares site of what is coming. Then, they post a thread, referring to that "official" information.
To date, I haven't seen anything official for Ares, and have only heard/read of rumors that Ares is even working on anything related to Battle of Britain. Granted, the game designer is one of the individuals that has discussed the "upcoming release", with descriptions of the possible contents. However, on previous releases, there has been much more information, and sometimes pre-production images of the planes being considered. Just look at this thread.
I am optimistic that something is coming, but very pessimistic about the release date being this year, or even next, with what appears to me to be vaporware. I am hoping, really, really hoping that Ares has put a " top secret" lid on the development of this production, and it is actually coming shortly.
All that to say, we don't have any pre-production, nor pre-release info, and anyone that does probably has a gag order in place to keep them from talking.
Mike
"Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
"Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59
I honestly think they look right for the K variant. http://www.ii-jg77.net/wp-content/up...te-1945-02.jpg
And did you ever seen Avia S-199? They were basically Bf.109G with Jumo motors from He.111 so it was necessary to give them bigger props. You can imagine what it did with parametres...
I agree. Even if they were slightly over sized, at least I do not feel like the prop is going to break off if I just look at it wrong.
Especially if you compare it to the E variant's propeller https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Nrsevx137jg/maxresdefault.jpg
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Wow, thanks for the pics and links to pics on the prop issue, I now tend to agree that they appear to be the correct size. That really helps me feel better.
I would like to say that I was very pleased that Ares did release their new series at Origins. Thank you Ares. If I could ask a small request, could we have a heads-up when and what would be released next year and if we could get a deal on them so as to use in an event. This would be a great promo to selling the new planes. This would work if we know that new planes or even re-releases of old planes are coming out. We also do events at Dawn Patrol and I am working on other airshows.
Thomas
Battle of Britain Sunday is observed each year on the third Sunday in September. The 76th Anniversary will fall on the 18th of September this year....
If I could ask a small request, could we have a heads-up when and what would be released next year and if we could get a deal on them so as to use in an event. This would be a great promo to selling the new planes. This would work if we know that new planes or even re-releases of old planes are coming out. We also do events at Dawn Patrol and I am working on other airshows.
Thomas
MosaiCon 2016 (Link: MosaiCon.ca) will be on the weekend of the 9th to the 11th of September, and I have a full kette of He.111s to put on the table. I have already booked a table, and am putting together a schedule of Wings of Glory games, to include a monster Battle of Britain scenario on the 11th.
Also, I am discussing a demo of Wings of Glory at the Comox Air Force Museum on the 18th of September for the Battle of Britain. They are very receptive, and planning continues. 19 Wing Comox, the local Air Base will be putting on a parade and reception that will be attended by veterans and young Air Cadets from all over the north island, from Nanaimo (100 kms south) to Port Hardy (250 kms north, near the north tip of Vancouver Island). So, not a Con, nor a gaming aficionado gathering, but not a bad place to introduce Wings of Glory to a new audience.
You have no idea how badly I would like to have Battle of Britain starter sets and appropriate plane packs to promote (well, maybe this audience does)!
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Mike
"Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
"Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59
I do...(well, maybe this audience does)!
Two very valid points there Mike.
The lack of availability of models and rules at shows where there are no traders of such, and the foreknowledge of when aircraft will be available, are and have been the root causes of potential players walking away from our demo games in disappointment for years.
Your other point about generating interest in the game in hitherto untapped areas is also important.
Having done the round of shows for several years, we have tapped dry most of the interested stream of gamers, save a few new ones, and now need to spread our net wider. This would not only help our cause, but that of Wargaming in general. It was interesting at Birmingham Expo to hear how many younger visitors to our game said they had never been aware of such games being in existence before. You would think that with War Hammer rampant amongst the teenager set that most would have been exposed to Wargames in some form or another, but apparently not.
Let us spread the word about at shows outside our own comfort zones and reap the rewards.
Rob.
"Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."
Got my minis today. I noticed that one of the Bf-109s (Hartman's I think) and all of the P-47s have holes in the bottom of the wings where it looks like attachments were supposed to be. Anyone know the reason? Are there components missing? (gunpods for the 109 or rockets for the P-47s) Was there a plan to have attachments that was later scrapped but they didn't modify the molds for the figures? Are they planning on selling add-ons later (I hope this is the case).
That is sad, Rob.Two very valid points there Mike.
The lack of availability of models and rules at shows where there are no traders of such, and the foreknowledge of when aircraft will be available, are and have been the root causes of potential players walking away from our demo games in disappointment for years.
Your other point about generating interest in the game in hitherto untapped areas is also important.
Having done the round of shows for several years, we have tapped dry most of the interested stream of gamers, save a few new ones, and now need to spread our net wider. This would not only help our cause, but that of Wargaming in general. It was interesting at Birmingham Expo to hear how many younger visitors to our game said they had never been aware of such games being in existence before. You would think that with War Hammer rampant amongst the teenager set that most would have been exposed to Wargames in some form or another, but apparently not.
Let us spread the word about at shows outside our own comfort zones and reap the rewards.
Rob.
Without a nice, not overpriced boxed starter sets there is no real hope for expanding the game. Look what is happening with X-Wing miniatures Starters: The box with 3 models, all tokens, some pilot cards, maneuver templates, obstacles, dice and a range ruler plus 3 different scenarios to play with (these give a buyer many hours of enjoyment) is priced exactly (well, here in Poland in PL (yes!) version) like a single ARES Lancaster miniature.
And the starters are constantly available.
And thus do not ask me about the number of YOUNG X-Wing players here in my country, playing this game like professionals. It would really make you.
"We do not stop playing when we get old, but we get old when we stop playing."
Andrzej, I'm not sure if you saw the photo of the day? Did you? Starter set is planned for months and now it really looks that it is only question of time. Better late than never...
Where is that photo, Daniel?
"We do not stop playing when we get old, but we get old when we stop playing."
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...210#post411210
Also a very good point Andy. I am also sure that is one reason why Sails is so slow in catching on. The aircraft are pricey enough, but ships are even more expensive. No longer pocket money toys as we used to say about the rise in price of War Hammer. I just hope that the new batch of fighter aircraft at a lower cost are enticing enough for the young ones.
Rob.
"Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."
It also has 8 movies available, including animation, with more to come; numerous TV series & films; books, websites and a cadre of Dad's who grew up on the toys the first time round to back them up - its not a hard sell. The models are exquisite too.
Sapiens qui vigilat "He is wise who watches"
What Flash said.
That is sad, Rob.
Without a nice, not overpriced boxed starter sets there is no real hope for expanding the game. Look what is happening with X-Wing miniatures Starters: The box with 3 models, all tokens, some pilot cards, maneuver templates, obstacles, dice and a range ruler plus 3 different scenarios to play with (these give a buyer many hours of enjoyment) is priced exactly (well, here in Poland in PL (yes!) version) like a single ARES Lancaster miniature.
And the starters are constantly available.
And thus do not ask me about the number of YOUNG X-Wing players here in my country, playing this game like professionals. It would really make youAnd add to it that a much larger company is producing it. More initial and continued company cash flow + more popularity driving more sales = less cost per unit. And that is not even bring up the target play style. It's apples to oranges I'm afraid when trying to compare the two.
A Wings of Glory animated series would be a wonderful marketing tool for the younger audience......
Could not agree more...
It certainly would be useful.
i recall that a couple of our esteemed members here have done a pretty good job on that in the past, but an official animation would be superb for shows as well.
Rob.
"Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."
A great idea. It could be merged with historical scenes and faces.
"We do not stop playing when we get old, but we get old when we stop playing."
My small package from AA has just arrived
Now, with the Origins purchase I have 6 Bf 109Ks and 4 P-47s. [6 Dauntlesses outsourced, no Judies, but 3 AIM Kates]
"We do not stop playing when we get old, but we get old when we stop playing."
Nice!My small package from AA has just arrived
Now, with the Origins purchase I have 6 Bf 109Ks and 4 P-47s. [6 Dauntlesses outsourced, no Judies, but 3 AIM Kates]
I'm still waiting for mine.
Just market WoG hard with the upcoming "Mighty Eighth" HBO miniseries.
Mick I just received 2 P-47's that I ordered. I wasn't impressed by the photos I saw but the models are really nice. I looked at mine and it looks like a mistake as anything that would go in the holes (bomb rack) would cover the landing gear. My 1/144 models have bombs in that position.
I fact I am thinking of reshaping the wingtips of the Bf 109K that really!!! bother meNice!
I'm still waiting for mine..
"We do not stop playing when we get old, but we get old when we stop playing."
Why don't you buy the excellent 109K's from AIM?I fact I am thinking of reshaping the wingtips of the Bf 109K that really!!! bother me
They are beautiful.
Customs send me a letter, that series 6 is waiting for me.
I'll have them in my greedy hands on Monday!
Voilą le soleil d'Austerlitz!
Cool!Customs send me a letter, that series 6 is waiting for me.
I'll have them in my greedy hands on Monday!
You are damn right, Quim
"We do not stop playing when we get old, but we get old when we stop playing."
Glad to be of help, my friend!You are damn right, Quim
I think Andrzej bought enough bases and movement decks for his future repaints.
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Absolutely. I want to have a set of Bf 109s in winter camo. Spraying some white paint would give them a perfect look.I think Andrzej bought enough bases and movement decks for his future repaints.
"We do not stop playing when we get old, but we get old when we stop playing."
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