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  1. #251

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    LMAO! you're probably right, Sven!

    problem is this minis are quite expensive down here in Argentina... I have to order them brom overseas, pay expensive shiping, custom taxes (some times), and worst: buy dollars with our poor devaluated ''pesos''
    So I have to be selective... but you're right: I may very well getting at least one of those ME-410 anyway... especially if they come with some bad-ass looking cammo

  2. #252

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    Quote Originally Posted by Пилот View Post
    FW 190
    FW 190
    FW 190
    FW 190
    FW 190
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    "A" model...
    "A" model...
    "A" model...
    "A" model...


  3. #253

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marechallannes View Post
    Always the same good purposes, Ezekiel.

    Just one example:

    I never planed to buy Italian Hanriots or A-H Aviatiks. I only wanted the Belgian blue Hanriot for the Western Front.

    When I saw the Hanriots and Aviatiks in Ladinek's shop 2013 "in nature" I could not resist. Such beautiful WWI planes. Now I have them all and wait for the Macchi flyboats for more A-H action.

    I never planed to buy a black Bf.110 nightfighter. Now I have two of them, the black Beaufighter too and I can't wait any more for the Lancasters.


    So my personal opinon about Ares Games WGF & WGS planes is: Never say never! You can maybe stay at distance here in the forum, but I'm shure if you play WGS and you see a Me410 with a nice camouflage in a shop, you can't resist, too.
    Well said and very true, Sven.

    However, with a long time waiting for new minis I recently switched to buing older releases for repaints rather than new ones. That's where I put my money in, right now. That will help me to collect minis according to my needs, since I prefer to buy 2 D.520s to repaint for Bulgaria markings then to buy one Me-410 (I guess that would be comparable in terms of price and equally exotic to use in scenarios).

    Let's see how the new minis will look like. Could be that they will be so eye-catching I can'r resist, like for instance upcoming WGF release of italian seaplanes. But there're some other factors that are important and I consider them before buying a model. For instance, whether the minis will be painted or overall decal camo will be applied (the last option is far less desirable to me).

  4. #254

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    When I started to play WoW, I was sure I'll need no more then 3 - 4 planes. After that, I was sure I have no need for repaints. And no big bombers ever. And so on and on

  5. #255

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    Ain't that the way these things ALL go? "Oh, just this little bit... *time passes* maybe this too... *a little later* and that too..." LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    Ain't that the way these things ALL go? "Oh, just this little bit... *time passes* maybe this too... *a little later* and that too..." LOL
    Nah! I control it. I can stop buying minis, re-painting, and playing WoG any time I want

  7. #257

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    Ain't that the way these things ALL go? "Oh, just this little bit... *time passes* maybe this too... *a little later* and that too..." LOL
    Next thing you know, you, your two brothers, and a homicidally-insane tubercular drunk are walking towards an alleyway; and you ask yourself "How in hell did we get ourselves into this?". >;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    Ain't that the way these things ALL go? "Oh, just this little bit... *time passes* maybe this too... *a little later* and that too..." LOL
    Otherwise it wouldn't be addic... I mean, interesting

  9. #259

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marechallannes View Post
    I'm happy about another Axis/German twin engined, heavy fighter.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marechallannes View Post
    Ju 88 nightfighter...
    How about a Heinkel He 219
    Karl
    It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus

  10. #260

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    How about a Heinkel He 219
    Karl
    A typical nightfighter though...
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  11. #261

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallo Rojo View Post
    Nah! I control it. I can stop buying minis, re-painting, and playing WoG any time I want
    It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus

  12. #262

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    How about a Heinkel He 219
    Karl
    Quote Originally Posted by Nightbomber View Post
    A typical nightfighter though...
    Well, he did bring up the Ju.88C
    Really, the only German heavy fighter I'd like to see is a Do.335
    But we'd need new rules for them (and Me.262s et al).
    Karl
    It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus

  13. #263

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightbomber View Post
    A typical nightfighter though...
    The best German Nightfighter. Was able to hunt down Mosquitos




    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    How about a Heinkel He 219
    Karl
    Always the same... Give Karl the little finger and he takes the whole hand.

    Comrade let's wait for a Ju88 and step by step we'll reach He219 and Do335 level.


    All this future talking release talking makes me want ordering more B17s...
    Voilŕ le soleil d'Austerlitz!

  14. #264

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    I wonder if Ares would consider scout planes like the SC-1 Curtiss Seahawk. I had the pleasure of flying in one in a simulator on the USS Hornet and it was very cool.

  15. #265

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    There is so much they could do aircraft wise with the game that I don't think anything is fully off the table. Seaplanes, Flying boats, more heavies, more medium bombers, all seem to be a certainty at some point. Scout planes seem like a low priority, but who knows? Personally, I hope someday to see a PBY and Short Sunderland become available, there is just something that I dig about WWII era flying boats. However, there quite a few other aircraft that I would like to see first, like a Mossi, Betty, Ju-88, Sparviero, and B-24 Liberator, not to even mention fighter aircraft. I think the largest fighter aircraft omission thus far (considering the planned wave 6 including P-38s and Corsairs ) from an American's perspective, has to be the Hellcat. That being said, bring on the Hellcats, Kates, Avengers, Oscars, Georges, Folgore, Veltro, Mig 3, Aircobra, and Fw-190As!!!! Oh and P-47 bubble tops at some point is a must!

    See what happens when I start thinking and wishing? Ok, I better split before another dozen aircraft or so start tickling my fancy!

  16. #266

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokhuah View Post
    I wonder if Ares would consider scout planes like the SC-1 Curtiss Seahawk. I had the pleasure of flying in one in a simulator on the USS Hornet and it was very cool.
    _WoG_ is about Shooting People. WW2 Scout Planes were about Not Shooting People. Thus, I doubt Scout Planes will sell well outside the "hardcore grognard" demographic.

  17. #267

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    Messerschmitt Bf 109K-4

    Guns:
    2 × 13 mm (.51 in) synchronized MG 131 machine guns with 300 rounds per gun
    1 × 1 × 30 mm (1.18 in) MK 108 cannon as Motorkanone with 65 rpg (some K-4s were fitted with the MG 151/20 as the Motorkanone.)

    What does this mean in damage tokens (close and long distance)?

    Will there be a "D" damage in it on close distance?
    Voilŕ le soleil d'Austerlitz!

  18. #268

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    Since Aircobra, which also has 3cm cannon mounted, has "D" damage i would expect so.

  19. #269

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    ...so could be D-B on close distance and C - A on long distance.
    Voilŕ le soleil d'Austerlitz!

  20. #270

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marechallannes View Post
    ...so could be D-B on close distance and C - A on long distance.
    Sounds quite right.
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  21. #271

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    Highly random hit sets like C and D would work well for a long range hits as well.

  22. #272

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    Damage per Token:

    •C = 2,8
    •D = 4,9

    Chance to draw a "zero" damage token:

    •C = 41,6%
    •D = 43,3%

    The D damage is exactly what those heavies need.
    Voilŕ le soleil d'Austerlitz!

  23. #273

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marechallannes View Post
    ...so could be D-B on close distance and C - A on long distance.
    That's my expectation as well

  24. #274

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    I can't wait to see some prototypes of series 6...

    I think I'll preorder 1 - 2x Japs
    All Me109Ks
    All Dauntless bombers
    2x P47s

    Voilŕ le soleil d'Austerlitz!

  25. #275

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    Um.... OK... A... Why the Yokosuka D4Y..?


    I don't see that it even lugged torpedoes...

    I have to give Ares full props for everything they have done with the series up to this point...

    But...

    The only scenario I can see using the Yokosuka would be to have it dragging an "Eat at Joe's with free happy hour before 6" sign across the sky at the local Beach...
    Last edited by THECCRICH; 11-23-2014 at 09:24.

  26. #276

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    'Cause they already did the Val, the more prominent IJN divebomber, and weren't about to do a Reverse Series 2 no matter what kind of sense for parity it may have made.

    Me, I would have broken up the existing Series 2, pairing Stuka with Shturmovik and 2 new fighters, Val with Dauntless and again 2 new fighters, not sure what Axis fighters I'd match up with Hurricane and MS406, saving Judy to pair with the Helldiver. I might use additional Bf109 prints as filler for various vacancies, since they seem to be ALL Fat Bastard Hermann could think about for fighters until they were WELL past Demonstrated Obsolete...

  27. #277

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    Quote Originally Posted by csadn View Post
    _WoG_ is about Shooting People. WW2 Scout Planes were about Not Shooting People. Thus, I doubt Scout Planes will sell well outside the "hardcore grognard" demographic.
    As cool as they could be with appropriate special rules in scenarios, I'd expect a Bitchy Little Girl Sh-tstorm that'd make the Kissenberth Camel look Welcomed With Open Arms by comparison.

  28. #278

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    I hear ya Diamondback...

    I believe it had already been mentioned that there is a great deal of time between releases, and the Russian front is left wanting.

    How about a Yak 9?


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    The Judy fits perfectly to the KI 84 Frank and the planed series 7 Nakajima Ki.44-IIb and Ki.44-IIc late war Pacific planes.

    You don't want to escort Vals to the US ships at Okinawa 1944.
    Voilŕ le soleil d'Austerlitz!

  30. #280

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    I like this series but still would like to get Kate's. Maybe next series could be Corsair/Kate/Sturmovich/I-16.

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    Kate would be better paired with TBD Devastator--we know Ares is trying to move things toward "themed" releases.

    Maybe, if breakup and slipstream on Series 2 isn't viable, pair Shturmovik with a D or G Stuka, something later and possibly one of the Kanonenvogel versions.

  32. #282

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobP View Post
    ... Maybe next series could be Corsair/Kate/Sturmovich/I-16.
    Corsair is in the next series. (...& P-38, Ki 44 and Me.410)

    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...iminary-lineup

    So if there're any wishes for WGS series 8...

    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    ...

    Maybe, if breakup and slipstream on Series 2 isn't viable, pair Shturmovik with a D or G Stuka, something later and possibly one of the Kanonenvogel versions.
    The Ju 87 G (Kanonenvogel) had no forward armament beside the 3,7 cm cannons. I'm not shure if Ares Games would convert the Ju 87G as the new "sky cleaner" and would allow to shoot at enemy planes with the cannons (...with traditional: unlimited ammunition. )

    The Ju 87 D 5 had two 2cm cannons in the wings as forward armament.


    A new WGS Stuka series with different late war Stukas would be indeed very nice.

    Shouldnt be a problem to produce, because we saw different planes type with & without additional equipment like drop tanks, bombs, etc...
    Last edited by Marechallannes; 11-23-2014 at 22:16.
    Voilŕ le soleil d'Austerlitz!

  33. #283

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    Any breakup/changes of previous series would mean making new molds; the question is: does Areas have, and is willing to spend the money for this?
    Karl
    It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus

  34. #284

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    New series get new molds, too.

    If we see a reprint of WGS series II Ares should fill the Dewotoine mold with candy and sell these sweet planes at conventions.

    But for the previous post of mine "produce" refered to the additional equipment like gunpods, etc. not the planes.
    Last edited by Marechallannes; 11-24-2014 at 02:31.
    Voilŕ le soleil d'Austerlitz!

  35. #285

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    If they had given Devoitines some sort of a standard camo and a better maneuver deck - because they did deserve a better maneuver deck - we would like them way better. However the idea of candy planes is excellent.

  36. #286

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    Another solution would be to produce an accessories pack containing underwing cannon pods, bombs, drop tanks and rocket rails, which we could use to customize our models. Perhaps the Aerodrome Accessories shop might consider doing this.

  37. #287

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naharaht View Post
    Another solution would be to produce an accessories pack containing underwing cannon pods, bombs, drop tanks and rocket rails, which we could use to customize our models. Perhaps the Aerodrome Accessories shop might consider doing this.
    excellent idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naharaht View Post
    Another solution would be to produce an accessories pack containing underwing cannon pods, bombs, drop tanks and rocket rails, which we could use to customize our models. Perhaps the Aerodrome Accessories shop might consider doing this.
    Sounds like a 'Shapeways' solution if the fine detail survived their minimum thickness requirements.

  39. #289

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    I always prefer the original Ares Games minature.

    Have a look in the Ju87 painting showcase. Thomatchef built a fantastic Stuka with gunpods. Everything is possible.

    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...highlight=Ju87

    Question is, if it's possible that we get this stuff as an original product with own maneuver deck, plane card and miniature.
    Voilŕ le soleil d'Austerlitz!

  40. #290

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    I don't know if you all would be interested, but I put together some of the field modification/gun pods in this loan plan I just finished.

    My brother also added gun pods and promoted his Junkers B to a D...

    I know this is a horrible plug for my mod LOL...

    Axis Aircraft Load Plan... (in WWII Download section)

  41. #291

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    Some very good options here, I'm a fan of the P-47. Does anyone know, however, if/when Ares will look at reprints for series 1? I'm trying to expand the early war planes I have before going much further. Zeros are somewhat available but the other three are getting much harder to find. As a player who doesn't do much modeling (I'd hate to put one of my awful paintjobs on the table ) it would be nice to see some of these old planes re-released. I know this has likely been discussed elsewhere, just wondering if there is an update on this or if we shouldn't get our hopes up.
    Thanks in advance for any info!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warhawk View Post
    Does anyone know, however, if/when Ares will look at reprints for series 1? I'm trying to expand the early war planes I have before going much further. Zeros are somewhat available but the other three are getting much harder to find. As a player who doesn't do much modeling (I'd hate to put one of my awful paintjobs on the table ) it would be nice to see some of these old planes re-released. I know this has likely been discussed elsewhere, just wondering if there is an update on this or if we shouldn't get our hopes up.
    Thanks in advance for any info!
    We can expect some Series 1 and 2 planes to reappear later this year in some form or another in a Battle of Britain theme and a Midway theme. I am not sure if that means a packaged set, or as individual planes like in the past. From what I understand, not all the plane types from the first two series will be included. I would guess that the Spitfire, Hurricane, Bf-109, and Stuka are selected for the BoB, while the Wildcat, Zero, and Val for the Midway theme. Leaving the D.520 out in the cold. Which based off the sales numbers and the fact that they are still available in some online store clearance bins doesn't surprise me. I also won't be surprised if Ares decided not to reprint the Val, since we have the Judy coming out this year and the idea of two Japanese dive bombers being made available in the same year, may not appeal to them. Like the D.520, the Val can still be found in online store clearance bins. However, I think Ares has greater ambitions than they will be able to deliver for WGS in 2015. We still aren't going to see Series six until the early Summer-(half the year away!) plus they want to do Series 7 and these "reprints", I just don't see it happening based off their prior release schedules. But hey! Perhaps they will surprise me! My pocketbook can handle 4-5 releases a year between WGF and WGS, so I alos hope the other extreme doesn't happen and I get too much product either!

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    This is good news, thanks for the reply! I see your point about having too many items to release but if those series are coming I'll hold off on buying expensive out of print aircraft since there is a plan for these planes.
    Thanks again!

  44. #294

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    Look for the BoB releases this year and the Midway stuff next year.

  45. #295

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    The BoB stuff will be a relief for those of us who do the shows at any rate.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

  46. #296

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberst Hajj View Post
    Look for the BoB releases this year and the Midway stuff next year.
    That's good to know....The Val may make a comeback after all! Not that I need anymore, as with some of the bargain prices that I have come across, with some as cheap as $3 bucks each, I have at least 5 of each sculpt. Now a way to change their markings would be awesome...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberst Hajj View Post
    Look for the BoB releases this year and the Midway stuff next year.
    Good news! One can never have too many Hurricanes, Spitfires, and Me109s!

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    Well, I see a few things I will be getting for Christmas this year.
    I'll try and keep it to just a couple, or 3. But if they re-release BoB planes, well...I don't have any of them, so....

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    Uh-oh. I had planned on the Pacific theatre but if they come out in that order I won't be able to resist the BoB scenarios. This gives me an excuse to buy them all I guess .

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    If only the FW 190a had come in during the battle of britain... really want that mini! It would hit my table every game for sure.

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