Pilot Cards

**Captain Chum** · 12-11-2013 20:17

Not sure if this is the correct section to put this but I thought I would share my latest offering.

I thought It would be nice, especially for a player like me whose do not know all of the pilots that were in WW1 to have a simple reference card.
The card has a brief description and images of the planes in the game that he flew.
A picture of the pilot. I think it is cool to actually place a face in the planes of the game.

Anyway just a simple reference card so when you are rummaging through which planes you want to use for a game this will be a nice little aid to guide
you or new players to their selection.

Maybe an idea also for those who do shows.

**Chris Maes** · 12-11-2013 20:31

I like!

Chris

**furryflight** · 12-12-2013 02:07

I like too! Gives a good overview of the man.

As a suggestion, given that we are playing planes, why not also have a card for each plane that describes the pilot's experience and reputation when he flew it. And the sort of missions it was used for.

This would be especially good with MvR given that he has 3/4 planes in this game.

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 12-12-2013 02:09

Great idea Kelly.

Rob.

**itchy** · 12-12-2013 02:16

Great stuff Kelly .

**Rabbit 3** · 12-12-2013 22:28

Originally Posted by furryflight

I like too! Gives a good overview of the man.

As a suggestion, given that we are playing planes, why not also have a card for each plane that describes the pilot's experience and reputation when he flew it. And the sort of missions it was used for.

This would be especially good with MvR given that he has 3/4 planes in this game.

That seems to be more or less what Ares were thinking about with the Ace Skill promo cards they put out some time back.
I kind of hope they revisit this at some point with a full product as it was a very good idea.

I think MvR will have four official planes once the Albatros D.II`s are released, though if you also count the generic Halberstadt D.II as well it makes five!

**grumpybear** · 12-13-2013 04:48

Nice idea

**Brambo** · 12-13-2013 06:56

Great idea Kelly, are you putting them in the files section?

**OldGuy59** · 12-13-2013 07:23

Not as flashy, and more about the plane, as well as some info on the pilots, is this business card file:

Pilot/Aircraft Cards

I put these in my Aerodrome "Hangar" display cases, for personal reference, and to help novices learn a bit of history, while having fun.

Mike

**Captain Chum** · 12-13-2013 07:35

Originally Posted by Brambo

Great idea Kelly, are you putting them in the files section?

Thank you,

I can. Probably should wait until I get enough on one page to print before uploading. Currently working on Voss's card and I am have some minor trouble with some imaging. I may move off and work on another pilot until I can figure it out.

**Captain Chum** · 12-13-2013 07:39

Originally Posted by OldGuy59

Not as flashy, and more about the plane, as well as some info on the pilots, is this business card file:

Pilot/Aircraft Cards

I put these in my Aerodrome "Hangar" display cases, for personal reference, and to help novices learn a bit of history, while having fun.

Mike

Yes, these are nice cards. One of my goals that I wanted this version to do was to place a face with the actual game miniature(s).

I have left the "cloud" image long enough for any updates to new versions of planes a pilot flown or customs for that matter. Looks like The Baron's card already needs an update.

**fast.git** · 12-13-2013 10:34

The card is a great idea... and well-presented. Thanks for sharing.

**Doug** · 12-13-2013 12:22

Yes I agree with others, good idea.

**Captain Chum** · 12-18-2013 13:48

Latest work:

**Blackronin** · 12-18-2013 14:27

Kelly these cards are very good. Thanks.

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 12-18-2013 14:50

Very professional looking card Kelly.
I like the layout.
Rob.

**Captain Chum** · 01-06-2014 19:35

Thanks gents,
Got a little side tracked with the gimbal mount project but hope to jump back on this soon.

**fast.git** · 01-08-2014 14:26

Originally Posted by Captain Chum

Thanks gents,
Got a little side tracked with the gimbal mount project but hope to jump back on this soon.

Excellent news!

**Flying Helmut** · 01-08-2014 16:32

These cards look fantastic!

**Captain Chum** · 01-08-2014 20:34

Originally Posted by Flying Helmut

These cards look fantastic!

Thanks Tim.

**Captain Chum** · 01-08-2014 20:41

I am currently working Werner Voss.
After reading his bio on a few sites, there seems to be some conflict into how many SE5a's were involved in his last stand. I have read it was 7,8 and 9 SE5a's. This is probably the subject of an old thread but anyone know what the "official" number was.

Also, seem funny that a Fokker was not made for him in the game. Reading about him he was a test pilot for the Fokker and fell in love with it.

I am thinking 8 is the more official number by not quite 100% sure.

**Lt. S.Kafloc** · 01-09-2014 07:09

Fantastic idea Kelly. Combining it with perhaps the ace skills on the back that were started elsewhere on the forum would be nice too.

Neil

Originally Posted by Captain Chum

Not sure if this is the correct section to put this but I thought I would share my latest offering.

I thought It would be nice, especially for a player like me whose do not know all of the pilots that were in WW1 to have a simple reference card.
The card has a brief description and images of the planes in the game that he flew.
A picture of the pilot. I think it is cool to actually place a face in the planes of the game.

Anyway just a simple reference card so when you are rummaging through which planes you want to use for a game this will be a nice little aid to guide
you or new players to their selection.

Maybe an idea also for those who do shows.

**skyking20** · 01-10-2014 06:30

Since I started running WWi Air games back in the Fight in the Skies/Dawn Patrol Days I have a simple system where we make up pilot names and keep track of their flying record: both good and bad. For example, last game one of our better players was flying a new pilot on his first mission. He was chasing a Gotha V and managed to run into it three times! His wing commander noted this in his records!

Anyway, I would love to have a blank template of your card (please

) so I can make custom cards for each of their pilots using random period photos!

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 01-10-2014 08:50

Great idea Lance. there are loads of photos of groups of pilots with some marked as unknown, who could be used without being obvious Aces or famous faces.
Rob.

**skyking20** · 01-10-2014 13:06

That was my thought, Rob. With modern software you can even pick out the upper torso, enhance with photoshop and drop it on the blank template. Same for any text turmned into a graphics file. I was even thinking about the word DECEASED at a 45 degree angle like some sort of official stamp.

Kelly, what size are the cards?

**Captain Chum** · 01-13-2014 14:05

Originally Posted by skyking20

Since I started running WWi Air games back in the Fight in the Skies/Dawn Patrol Days I have a simple system where we make up pilot names and keep track of their flying record: both good and bad. For example, last game one of our better players was flying a new pilot on his first mission. He was chasing a Gotha V and managed to run into it three times! His wing commander noted this in his records!

Anyway, I would love to have a blank template of your card (please

) so I can make custom cards for each of their pilots using random period photos!

Sure...how blank to you want it?

If you want them with national symbols on them I currently have only done the Germans.

**Captain Chum** · 01-13-2014 14:12

That was my thought, Rob. With modern software you can even pick out the upper torso, enhance with photoshop and drop it on the blank template. Same for any text turmned into a graphics file. I was even thinking about the word DECEASED at a 45 degree angle like some sort of official stamp.

You mean like this? Was a little time consuming for me.....not one of those super tech guys.

Kelly, what size are the cards?

The two I have done so far roughly 2.5 X 3 inches long. Honestly, if you copy the image you can make it whatever size you want (that is legible).

**Captain Chum** · 01-15-2014 14:09

Finally got Voss done....not 100% sure on the number of planes he fought against in his last stand but went with the info on the Aerodrome site.

**Captain Chum** · 01-15-2014 14:13

You guys like the one with the Red Baron's background out or do you like the full picture on the cards?

**gully_raker** · 01-15-2014 14:29

Originally Posted by Captain Chum

Finally got Voss done....not 100% sure on the number of planes he fought against in his last stand but went with the info on the Aerodrome site.

From Alex Revell's seminal work on 56 Sqd (this section also in Ospreys "Elite Units--56 Sqd RAF/RFC"):

2 SE's from 60 Sqd, Cpt Hamersley & Cpt Chidlaw-Roberts had been in combat with Voss & had had been severely handled.
McCudden had observed the fight & with Rhys-Davids attacked the Triplane which saw them coming & turned "in a sort of a flat spin" to meet them. C Flight now joined the fight & Voss was now in the middle of 8 SE 5a's. Voss sent Cronyn's & Muspratt's SE's out of the fight with damage but eventually Rhys-Davids got a good burst & Voss left the fight followed by R-D who dived & attacked again & Voss went down.
This fight is covered on pages 51 & 52 of the Osprey book.

**skyking20** · 01-15-2014 14:42

If the card had no picture just the space for one, a header with nothing on it, no text and the clouds with no mini. That would be perfect. I could easily add those things as needed.

Are you willing?

Originally Posted by Captain Chum

Sure...how blank to you want it?

If you want them with national symbols on them I currently have only done the Germans.

**Captain Chum** · 01-15-2014 14:44

Originally Posted by gully_raker

From Alex Revell's seminal work on 56 Sqd (this section also in Ospreys "Elite Units--56 Sqd RAF/RFC"):

2 SE's from 60 Sqd, Cpt Hamersley & Cpt Chidlaw-Roberts had been in combat with Voss & had had been severely handled.
McCudden had observed the fight & with Rhys-Davids attacked the Triplane which saw them coming & turned "in a sort of a flat spin" to meet them. C Flight now joined the fight & Voss was now in the middle of 8 SE 5a's. Voss sent Cronyn's & Muspratt's SE's out of the fight with damage but eventually Rhys-Davids got a good burst & Voss left the fight followed by R-D who dived & attacked again & Voss went down.
This fight is covered on pages 51 & 52 of the Osprey book.

Maybe I should make another one with the "eight" included. I know that after reading several source I would get a different number. Which one is accurate?....or will we ever really know.

**Captain Chum** · 01-15-2014 14:49

Originally Posted by skyking20

If the card had no picture just the space for one, a header with nothing on it, no text and the clouds with no mini. That would be perfect. I could easily add those things as needed.

Are you willing?

Is this okay?

**skyking20** · 01-15-2014 16:39

No. It's perfect!!!
Thanks!

Originally Posted by Captain Chum

Is this okay?

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 01-15-2014 23:30

Looks ideal to me.
Well within the corporate image of Ares products.
Rob.

**gully_raker** · 01-16-2014 15:05

Originally Posted by Captain Chum

Not sure if this is the correct section to put this but I thought I would share my latest offering.

I thought It would be nice, especially for a player like me whose do not know all of the pilots that were in WW1 to have a simple reference card.
The card has a brief description and images of the planes in the game that he flew.
A picture of the pilot. I think it is cool to actually place a face in the planes of the game.

Anyway just a simple reference card so when you are rummaging through which planes you want to use for a game this will be a nice little aid to guide
you or new players to their selection.

Maybe an idea also for those who do shows.

G'day Kelly!
You will soon be able to add another of MvR's aircraft to this card when his Albatross D.II is released in February.

**Captain Chum** · 01-21-2014 12:42

Originally Posted by gully_raker

From Alex Revell's seminal work on 56 Sqd (this section also in Ospreys "Elite Units--56 Sqd RAF/RFC"):

2 SE's from 60 Sqd, Cpt Hamersley & Cpt Chidlaw-Roberts had been in combat with Voss & had had been severely handled.
McCudden had observed the fight & with Rhys-Davids attacked the Triplane which saw them coming & turned "in a sort of a flat spin" to meet them. C Flight now joined the fight & Voss was now in the middle of 8 SE 5a's. Voss sent Cronyn's & Muspratt's SE's out of the fight with damage but eventually Rhys-Davids got a good burst & Voss left the fight followed by R-D who dived & attacked again & Voss went down.
This fight is covered on pages 51 & 52 of the Osprey book.

A version with 8 being noted.

**Captain Chum** · 01-23-2014 13:31

Got some more done. Let me know if their are any typos or mistakes please.

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 01-23-2014 14:28

They look great Kelly. Just the ticket.
Thanks for your efforts on this.
Rob.

**Captain Chum** · 03-01-2014 15:13

A few for the Entente:

**Captain Chum** · 03-06-2014 15:02

Updated the Baron's card at the top with the new flyer.

Below is one of the new Bristol F.2B pilots.

Trying to find images for the other Bristol pilots and/lor observers has been impossible. If anyone can lead me in the right direction to find some photos of William Frederick James Harvey, and his observer, Dennis Edward Francis Waight or Arkell and Stagg that would be very helpful.

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 03-07-2014 04:33

Very nice additions Kelly.
Thanks once again.
Rob.

**fast.git** · 03-07-2014 06:11

Very cool, thanks for all the work and time you've put into these!

**fast.git** · 03-07-2014 06:34

Originally Posted by gully_raker

...but eventually Rhys-Davids got a good burst & Voss left the fight followed by R-D who dived & attacked again & Voss went down...

If I remember correctly, McCudden believed that the "good burst" by R-D hit Voss (potentially killing him outright), as evidenced by the dramatic change in the triplane's behavior. Always have wondered what would have happened had R-D not got that shot in... does Voss stay until he's shot himself out of ammo? Do any of the other RFC aces tangling with him find themselves beneath his guns?

**Captain Chum** · 03-08-2014 07:47

Originally Posted by fast.git

Very cool, thanks for all the work and time you've put into these!

Thanks everyone.
Have hit some dead ends recently on finding the images and limited info for some fliers but will keep plugging away.

Just looking up the info to make the cards has, in itself, been a great learning experience.

**Captain Chum** · 03-18-2014 20:50

I have uploaded the cards I have done so far (currently in the queue). I decided to do them signally rather than in a group in the larger size.. That way anyone interested in downloading them can change the size (smaller or bigger) of the cards to their liking.

Hopefully have some more done soon.