Does anybody know of anywhere you can obtain Altitude pegs (Scouts)? Thanks in advance.
Altitude pegs
Does anybody know of anywhere you can obtain Altitude pegs (Scouts)? Thanks in advance.
I believe Miniature Market (US) still has some.
Thanks Chris, I'll check them out.
Just checked them, sold out unfortunately.
Last edited by Brambo; 11-15-2013 at 09:35.
They were supposed to be reprinted with the latest WGS miniatures, but the factory did not do them. Ares is trying to get them printed on their own, but that might not happen.
Originally Posted by Brambo
Sorrry to hear that Trev, I had purchased some less than a month ago.
Thanks guys, I'll keep looking
How many are you after?
I would like a bag of 100 or even 2 bags seeing as there so hard to come by. I suppose the answer is to buy more aircraft as you get 4 with each one
Here is a couple in Ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trks...at=0&_from=R40
Looks as if they only have Bomber pegs there. Rob.
"Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."
Thanks for that Kelly, unfortunately they only have bomber pegs, but thanks anyway mate.
It doesn't make sense to me why another run isn't produced. With more planes being released, I would think producing both types of pegs would be an easy sell. Is it difficult to produce these?
I am going to start popping pegs out of the white plastic containers and combine them into a bag. As I start to use altitude more, I need easy access to more pegs. I find this, though, not to be an optimal solution.
I think it is time to order some of your bases, Keith.
Found a few on Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Bag-of-100-Fli...d_rhf_ee_s_t_1
A little price with shipping, but if you need them, the price isn't bad. I even ordered one bag.
Thanks John, that's the closest I've got so far. Tried to buy them but they won't ship to UK. Cheers anyway mate.
I agree Eric, I think it would be a good idea if they made some like what you get with the Bombers, one peg which represents four pegs, That's why I need more, I want to stick them together in fours. That way it should be stronger and may even eliminate peg bend.
Sorry,
I didn't notice no overseas shipping.
I've also been thinking the same thing about having a peg the size of 4 like the bomber pegs and so I'm going to glue sets of four together to eliminate the bend.
Don't worry John, thanks for looking mate.
Ares ordered more pegs from the factory, but the factory does not really like these small product runs. It ties up their production line so they can run larger/more profitable items (that might not belong to Ares). It seems really odd that companies would operate like this, but it's very well know issue with Chinese manufactures.
I've done the same as Eric. All my mini aircraft pegs are stored together and I take them out as I need them. Owning 100+ mini's there is no way I can field them all together so I use what pegs I have when I need them. I think Trev's idea of gluing 4 together is a good idea and would make height an easier option using more pegs.
Yep, that's my problem, I do like height
Trev, did you ever find any more pegs?
Trev,
Found some here and they ship overseas.
http://yhst-12000246778232.stores.ya...fglbagof1.html
John
Thanks John, really appreciate that.
Trev
Have you considered ditching the peg system altogether and instead replacing it by the CORSEC Engineering Omni-Stand System?
Basically you would need the following Omni-Stand components to replace the default flight stand base and pegs included in Wings Of Glory:
Omni-Stand WoG Compatible Base
Omni-Stand Rod (static) -or- Omni-Stand Rod (telescopic)
Omni-Stand Sphere Magnet Add-On
Omni-Stand Mounting Pegs
If you buy the telescopic rod you can easily extend and retract the length of the rod (to reflect altitude changes) on which your airplane sits.
If you buy the sphere magnet add-on you can swivel your airplane in many realistic poses.
To install the mounting pegs you must cut away the airplane's peg receptacle and superglue the mounting peg onto the airplane.
The webpage contains two nice videos that explain the Omni-Stand system components and accessories.
Last edited by richarddaystrom; 12-03-2013 at 17:56.
Thats the way to go. I just bought a dozen extendable magnet rods from Sears for this. I bought the gimbal mounts and bases here. So now to attach the ball bearings and I'm set to fly.
Having used telescopic rods back in the 80's with 1/72nd WWI planes, the problem is height measurements. You'll either need a ruler or yard stick near by to ensure proper heights or have them engraved on, as even sharpie markers rub off pretty easily from the metal. It ended up being such a pain that we moved onto marked up 6ft doll rods with aligator clips.
John
Yeah, I thought of the "radio antenna's" as well but came to the same conclusion in relation to height measurements.
Another suggestion ...
As much as it is nice to be able to adjust the height of your airplane model using pegs or telescopic stands to reflect the altitude perhaps another approach is to buy the AA Advanced Cockpit which have dials to keep track of the altitude.
I am sure that are many other options to allow you to track the altitude without resorting to changing the height of the miniature.
I have used all those options and still do Richard.
The problem comes when you are photographing the action for an AAR and you want to show the height differential. I also like to have a set of four pegs with every plane. Some get lost at shows or broken if a kid drops the plane, plus for those of us who do our own builds there are never enough pegs to go around. Then the telescopic stands just look an eyesore to me on everything excepting on the really big balloons. This, however, is just my personal choice, and I concur that your suggestions may well suit other members needs.
Rob.
"Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."
When you're playing with 10 or more planes, you really need to see the height difference between the planes as otherwise you're checking everyone's dials to see where they are hight wise. We've glued the pegs together in groups of 2, 3, & 4 not so much as to speed the adjustments along but make the stands more stable while moving them around, and not many issues with planes that even had 12 pegs under them and then we use a single dial for climb rates. Granted this is a personal choice that seems to cover as many issues that we've seen, while working with the fly high rules.
John
Last edited by VonBlucher; 12-04-2013 at 10:32. Reason: DUH!!!
Point well said John! All we need to do now is "encourage" Ares to produce a better quality flight stand component ;-)
Absolutely true Rob!
I think Ares should produce pegs for the scouts that are like the solid peg you get with the bomber, it represents 4 pegs. Surely it shouldn't be too difficult to produce. Seeing aircraft at different heights gives you a great sense of what a dogfight would look like, rather than the 2D effect you get when all aircraft are at the same peg height.
Don't know anything about production difficulties... but I'd buy some of those!
Well, they have a hard time getting the factory to make extra flight pegs for them... so pretty hard I would think. lol
Uhhh... so like... doesn't the factory work *for* them?!?!
HAHAHA! Sorry that just made me laugh. No Chinese company works *for* anyone but the most profitable project at the time. I’m sure they told Ares that they would print the extra pegs, but since it would be a small quantity run and low profit margin, they will do it when they do not have larger more profitable products to produce. It’s very common when dealing with Chinese manufacturing companies for them to schedule your project date, and then bump it time and time again as “bigger and better” jobs come their way. This typically happens after they have made samples for you that you have approved or have already made and paid for the dies. This way it is very hard for you to walk away from them without a loss of time and money.
I’m pretty sure this is one of the major reasons we see such delays with a lot of the KS projects out there… and even in our planes to a certain extent.
I can attest to that.
You're darn right!I can attest to that.
I can attest to that.Oh you two!! Thanks for the laugh!!You're darn right!
Eric!
"We do not stop playing when we get old, but we get old when we stop playing."
Me too.
I
Rob.
"Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."
Hey, Clipper! where are you? We need an american supplier who gets things done right! Where have you gone clipper, a lonely nation turns its eyes toward you whoa whoa whoa
This is one of the reasons I suspect that once 3D printing technology gets a bit better it`s going to more or less destroy `old style` injection molding type manufacturing.
Once `next generation` 3D printers become available at the sort of prices the current machines sell at then small companies like Ares will be able to do a lot more in-house manufacturing and cut out the middle men.
Even current generation 3D printing companies like Shapeways will probably suffer as a result unless they manage to upgrade their technology.
I personally don’t see 3D printing every replacing mass production. Look at the paper/ink printing world. That tech has been around for hundreds of years and commercial printing is still the way large jobs are done. There are millions of homes that have ink jet printers in them and companies like Ares can buy even better prints, but they don't. There job is to make and market games, not produce the components.
This is getting off topic a bit here, but the only way I see 3D printing making a game changing impact on the gaming world is if those high end 3D printers advanced to sub $500 full color printers with the resolution of the $100k versions out today. Then it will take a move by the gaming industry to decide to release their game parts via a pay per print type of software system. The customers buy the printer and then just pay for each print they make form a group of game companies.
Adding to Keith's reply above I have also heard that 3D printing is relatively expensive (per unit) after you consider all the various factors. I presume that will improve over time.
Mind you if you can't find any suppliers I guess 3D printing might be the only way to go.
To those interested, they are currently out, but they might be able to get a few in from a distirbutor, I'll keep everyone posted.
Chris is back in stock with a limit of 2 bags, unsure how many he was able to pick up from the local distributor. So if you need any I would jump on this.
John
Thanks John, Kelly (Captain Chum) has kindly sent me a couple of bags.
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