What kind of a contest for the new revised Deluxe Set?

**Oberst Hajj** · 07-02-2010 02:49

Okay fellow pilots, I would like to hold a contest in order to give away one of the new revised WWI Deluxe Sets.

In the past we have done repaints, custom missions, and custom user profiles. Any thoughts on what we can do this time?

**David Kuijt** · 07-02-2010 04:13

Multi-part Scenarios. I've got one ready that is SURE to win. And I really want a revised deluxe set!

**Khargor** · 07-02-2010 04:18

What about doing a straight 'build & paint' competition?

**Guntruck** · 07-02-2010 04:40

Or scratchbuild a plane not commercially available (in plastic, metal or resin)?

**Oberst Hajj** · 07-02-2010 04:52

Some great ideas guys. I'd like to try and keep this in reach of most of the users out there, so I'd be hesitant to have a scratch building contest... not something even I could do really

**Won Wing Lo** · 07-02-2010 06:21

How about a photograph contest? Photo that best illustrates the game? Or captures the imagination for tabletop aerial war-gaming? Could also generate a lot eye candy for the site as a by product as well. (What a great idea he thinks, and pats himself on the back.)

**Oberst Hajj** · 07-02-2010 06:26

Not a bad idea at all! As a photographer, this really appeals to me. Seeing how it is for the new Deluxe Set, which is a pretty big prize, I might just combine a few of these ideas!

**Khargor** · 07-02-2010 06:26

I'd like to try and keep this in reach of most of the users out there,

If its not too hard to do I'm hoping to get my wargaming club students involved - will it be alright for the juniors (aged between 11-13) to take part? They're pretty sensible and regularly lurk at this forum now but I've asked them not to register just yet until I've checked if there is a minimum age limit

**Oberst Hajj** · 07-02-2010 06:57

Shaun, there is no minimum age to join the site. However, 13 and under requires for their parents to consent (my rule). Seeing as how they are your students, if they put you (using your user name) as the referrer, I can go ahead and push their accounts though.

And by all means, if they register on the site, they can take part!

**Gaz67** · 07-02-2010 09:30

13 and under

Well that poo-poos my idea of a pimms drinking contest....

**Khargor** · 07-02-2010 09:43

Well that poo-poos my idea of a pimms drinking contest....

I don't know - I bet there's plenty of young kids that could probably out-drink a lot of us!

**Gaz67** · 07-02-2010 09:56

You are of course correct Mr Shaun, but how many know when it's "Pimms o'clock"??

**check6** · 07-02-2010 11:06

I like the Idea of a repaints contest.

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 07-02-2010 11:21

How about these paper planes that are available. See who can produce the best diorama using these. They would not cost a mint, and would be a challenge even to the school children in Shaun's club.
Rob.

**David Kuijt** · 07-02-2010 11:39

Best image from a PbEM battle?

**David Kuijt** · 07-02-2010 11:45

Best World War One Moustache?

**Won Wing Lo** · 07-02-2010 12:18

Tough one for the ladies.

**Gaz67** · 07-02-2010 12:36

Originally Posted by Won Wing Lo

Tough one for the ladies.

You've obviously not seen some of the local "Ladies" from these parts....

**csadn** · 07-02-2010 20:02

Originally Posted by Khargor

I don't know - I bet there's plenty of young kids that could probably out-drink a lot of us!:eek:

Some of us [cough] can't drink alcohol.... :P

**Galland** · 07-02-2010 21:13

Originally Posted by Gaz67

You've obviously not seen some of the local "Ladies" from these parts....

Omg....

The repaint sounds good for me..

**Air Battle Mgr** · 07-02-2010 21:15

I like the idea of a photo contest. Most people have a digital camera. Heck they build digital cameras into every cell phone and probably rolls of toilet paper now-a-days.

I think the photo contest gives everyone a chance. Personally, my craft abilities -- painting or building -- can be outdone by any 6 year old and probably a few five year olds.

Timmy

**Oberst Hajj** · 07-02-2010 21:16

I will be doing a repaint contest, but not for the Deluxe Set. One of our members was nice enough to donate a couple of hard to find minis!

**Gaz67** · 07-03-2010 03:59

Originally Posted by Flying Officer Kyte

How about these paper planes that are available

I like this idea, it's cheap and cheerful! Everyone could play.
And rather than a "repaint" why not paint them in a scheme thats not been used before?
Get peoples creative juices flowing, winner(s) would be the aircraft with the most "fitting" look for 1914-18. Everyone would use the same aircraft.

**David Kuijt** · 07-03-2010 05:26

Being a respectful contrarian, I would like to point out that some of the suggestions on this thread have missed the mark.

A good competition must walk the line between exclusion and inclusion.

You cannot be fully inclusive -- a competition that includes everyone, where everyone has an equal chance, isn't a competition at all, it is a raffle.

The objective of a competition, in this little universe, is to encourage and reward commendable behavior and performance. Whatever aspect of commendable behavior and performance the Col. desires to reward.

There are many aspects of this hobby-game worth commendation. Some people do repaints. Some people design scenarios. Some people run PbEM campaigns. Some people create interesting house rules. Some people fold paper airplanes. Some people create new rules to represent (in a realistic and interesting way) aircraft that are not currently in the system. Some people grow WWI moustaches. Some people write after-action reports to cast their battles in the mold of historical accounts. For all I know, some people have bought WWI Flying Kit and walk around in it on Sunday Mornings, saying "Good Show," "I say," and "Bully!"

But not everyone does all those things.

And a good competition should encourage people to expand their hobby participation (into that particular aspect), as well as rewarding someone for particularly effective/artistic/enthusiastic/psychotic achievement in it.

Of its very nature, that implies some exclusion -- for if everyone already does activity X, then making that the competition activity is discarding the opportunity to encourage fun and appropriate activity.

So I put to you that the best choice would be something with an element of exclusiveness -- where not everyone does it. Sure, some will not participate -- but the Col. will have other competitions later, I am sure. Different ones, that effect a different pool of people.

If all activities were equally laudable (and they are not -- picking bellybutton lint is not as appropriate, in this context, as designing and making available a new squadron decal set) then the best competition would be the one that increases participation in that hobby aspect the most (i.e., creates the most NEW participants in that aspect). Since some activities are better than others, that should be factored in as well.

Okay, time for me to shut up. I need to go and check the UPS tracking number on my Flight of the Giants box. It might have changed from last hour.

**gregbond77** · 07-03-2010 14:30

I like the photo contest idea best( even though I think I'm the only one on the site without a digtal camara), but a close second would be the belly button lint picking idea. Would we mail in the actual lint or just photos?

**usmc1855** · 07-03-2010 15:04

Photo Contest. Images that have appeal and represent the represent the game.

NeilCFord · 07-03-2010 15:47

I'd be for a photo contest too, seeing as I have zero modelling skill

- Neil.

**Guntruck** · 07-04-2010 07:51

PbEM drinking contest?

No? OK then, I'd go for a photo contest.

**Algynon** · 07-04-2010 08:42

Pbem drinking contest!!! Now there is a thought.I wonder if I can get my Pimms down the broadband? Photo contest sounds good to me as well.

**Bixby** · 07-04-2010 11:43

My vote would be in the area of one of the following:

(1) Best Photo capturing essense of the game.
(2) Best Poster to advertise the game and attract new interest.
(3) Best multi-plane single evening scenario. (Unique and engaging).

**Oberst Hajj** · 07-06-2010 09:27

Keep the ideas coming guys. I'm going to be announcing 3 new contest this coming week... so I need 3 good ideas!

**Air Battle Mgr** · 07-06-2010 10:24

As someone who just placed my second order for aerodrome accessories, how about a contest for who can provide the best new product idea. The top 4 or 5 could be chosen by the colonel and the winner chosen by poll.

This idea helps the site by winnowing out a product that will hopefully sell well and provide funds to keep the site up and running.

In case this idea totally sucks

I will try to think of some more.

Timmy

**Air Battle Mgr** · 07-06-2010 10:35

Another idea -- also may suck, but here goes.

How about the biggest battle set up during the specified time of the contest. The winner would have to prove how many pilots were present and playing.

Pros:
Creates enthusiasm for the game and possibly introduces new flyers expanding our base of game fans.

Cons:
Difficult to pull off in rural areas where there are not a lot of players. For Example, our British friends my be able to pull off quite a few pilots at any event after a couple of train connections, where their commonwealth brothers the Canadians may have to be driving for 28 hours to get to the closest game

I said I would provide ideas, I didn't say they would be good.

We could always fall back on the belly button lint that most closely resembles Boelcke.

Timmy

**Guntruck** · 07-06-2010 12:57

How about a contest where we have to keep a thread on topic for more than 4 posts...... nah, it'd never work

**Rick57** · 07-06-2010 13:36

I say repaints for the Deluxe Set and the other one Col. Hajj has in mind.

**Snowy** · 07-06-2010 13:58

I like the Photo idea for several reasons.

As a medium, almost everyone can get access to a digital device to take the photo.

Those that cannot participate for many reasons, still do in that they get to enjoy the results.

Members of all ages, genders, walks of life and skill levels can participate.

Photographs are worth a thousand words goes without saying.....Hmmmm, deep.

The contest management is much easier and voting could be done by many.

That's my two cents....

**Kahlerclan** · 07-06-2010 19:02

I like the repaint idea just so I can be inspired by all the great work you guys produce.
How about a contest for objectives, crashed plane, aerdrome, trench lines, etc..?

**LGKR** · 07-06-2010 20:34

1. Best new range stick designs.

2. Best house rule.

**Oberst Hajj** · 07-07-2010 03:20

Okay, the 3 contest have been chosen and posted in the contest section!

I really liked some of the other ideas and will being using them in future contests, so thanks to everyone that suggested one!