What the heck is the G deck used for?

[The G Dog]

For some reason, I have a 'partial' (based on the numbers on the cards) set of a "G" maneuver deck. For the life of me I cannot figure out which planes use the G deck.

A little help?

regards,

The G Dog

[Pseudotheist]

I believe just the Fokker E.IV.

[Dom S]

It's from the old Immelmann booster iirc. Some of the planes that used it were upgraded (eg. The DH2) as it was a bit too poor a deck for them, but I think the Fokker E IV still uses it.

[The G Dog]

Okay, I found it - the Halberstadt D III. I had to open the 'other' deck of what I assumed were just plane cards and found the rest of the G deck and the sole plane that uses it.

Thanks guys!

[Zoe Brain]

Okay, I found it - the Halberstadt D III. I had to open the 'other' deck of what I assumed were just plane cards and found the rest of the G deck and the sole plane that uses it.

Thanks guys!

The Halberstadt D.III has now been upgraded to the P deck.

[wargamer]

Actually it was originally from the card game version "Watch Your Back" which came with the E, F, G & H decks. If I remember correctly, mostly the G is used as G* versions now. The Immelmann booster decks came later with a couple of P's and a G. But as noted, that has all been revised now.

It's from the old Immelmann booster iirc. Some of the planes that used it were upgraded (eg. The DH2) as it was a bit too poor a deck for them, but I think the Fokker E IV still uses it.

[Suffern]

I use the G deck as a base to build odd models in the '15-'16 period, such as the EIV and Nieuport 10. It was used for many models in the original game but has since been relegated to the obsolete pile.

[Guntruck]

While we are on the subject of the G deck, I notice that it has 2 sideslips right and 2 to the left. However, one of each is marked as a steep manoeuvre. Any idea why?

[Dom S]

Posted many moons ago by Andrea, in answer to the same question on Boardgamegeek:

"Yes thanks, it is intentional. In our idea, it is not the maneuvre "per se" to be particularly agile or not, it is the maneuvre deck in general. So having a deck with two steep and two non-steep sideslip makes the plane using it a bit (just a bit) less agile and a bit more tricky than one with two unlimited sideslip for each direction, making a couple of them more difficult to be combined with others. Youy can not, for example, do a turn with right sideslip/stall/right sideslip as most other planes can... "

[Guntruck]

Nice one. Thanks Dom.

[Dom S]

No worries - I blundered across it a few days ago, so it was fresh in the memory as it were.

[MoonSylver]

Good info!

[flash]

In the Unofficial Stats spreadsheet these aircraft use the G deck:
Fokker E.IV
Dorand AR2 (200hp)
Albatros J.I
DFW C.V
Friedrichshafen FF49C
Pfalz E.III
Avro 504K Comic

The following use G* deck mentioned by Al:
Breguet 5
Deperdussin TT
Nieuport 10
Nieuport 12
Nieuport 20
SPAD A2/A4
AEG C.IV
AEG G.IVk
AEG J.II
AGO C.I/C.II
AGO C.II Seaplane
Albatros B.I
Albatros W.4
Aviatik C.I
Junkers J.I
Pfalz A.II
Rumpler C.I
Armstrong Whitworth FK8
Blackburn Kangaroo
Fairey Hamble Baby
Martinsyde Elephant
Sopwith Tabloid (Wheeled version)

Hope that helps

[Smitch]

Noob question: what is the difference between the G deck and the G* deck?

[Jager]

Noob question: what is the difference between the G deck and the G* deck?

G* is the G deck minus the reversals.
Karl

[Zoe Brain]

Note that some of the aircraft without reversals could, in theory, do them. But the tactic wasn't used in practice. This is especially true of the 1916 stuff. It's only aircraft where we have accounts of them routinely doing loops or hammerheads in combat that they have this ability. The FE2b for example hardly ever looped, but Immelmans were standard from early on. The DH9 without bombload routinely used loops to evade, unlike the DH4. That probably could have done the same, but crews weren't trained for it.

[Hunter]

Good info, Zoe, did not know that. Danke.