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    I think I've just asked for my money back on the strength of that link Rob. Cheers.

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    Refund requested, new order placed. About £1.50 dearer but at least I'll have them.

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    Glad to be of help.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    On a Spanish Civil War version the ventral gunner's 'dustbin' must get in the way of the mounting peg.

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    My attempts

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    You have certainly made a very good job of those Cartas.
    Well done.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    All,
    Finally getting around to templating this plane. More color schemes coming, but this is a factory color scheme I found.

    Stats? Arcs?

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    This is a pretty rough draft, more work needed. Have I mentioned corrugated metal-skinned planes are really a mess?
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Can you make one like this:



    And one like this:

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGuy59 View Post
    All,
    Finally getting around to templating this plane. More color schemes coming, but this is a factory color scheme I found.

    This is a pretty rough draft, more work needed. Have I mentioned corrugated metal-skinned planes are really a mess?
    No Mike, but I bet you are about to.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    All,
    I've read somewhere that the SCW version of the Ju-52 had a "dustbin" ventral turret? Where was it in the fuselage? What gun(s)? How common was it?

    For units, what names/numbers where there, or do you want?
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Don't know if this is any good Mike?


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    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Mike:

    Spanish Civil War:
    The Condor Legion, upon establishment, consisted of the Kampfgruppe 88, with three squadrons of Ju 52 bombers and the Jagdgruppe 88 with three squadrons of Heinkel He 51 fighters. Later models were incorporated in the legion.

    As for the dustbin it had a mg 42 that fired 180ŗ to the rear and down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackronin View Post
    Mike:

    Spanish Civil War:
    The Condor Legion, upon establishment, consisted of the Kampfgruppe 88, with three squadrons of Ju 52 bombers and the Jagdgruppe 88 with three squadrons of Heinkel He 51 fighters. Later models were incorporated in the legion.

    As for the dustbin it had a mg 42 that fired 180ŗ to the rear and down.
    OK. Where on the bottom was the ventral turret, though? I'm having difficulty finding any reference or images that indicate where, exactly, this turret was.
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Does the gunner sit in a 'bucket seat', then?
    See you on the Dark Side......

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    He wasn't even sit. He was standing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackronin View Post
    He wasn't even sit. He was standing...
    Right on the locating peg then Quim. Unless he had those magnetic balls.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackronin View Post
    He wasn't even sit. He was standing...

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    The 'bucket' will make it hard to mount a Ju.52 bomber on altitude pegs, unless a very long peg is fitted to the underside of the bomber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naharaht View Post
    The 'bucket' will make it hard to mount a Ju.52 bomber on altitude pegs, unless a very long peg is fitted to the underside of the bomber.
    Card wise, you don't see ventral turrets. I just want to represent the firing arcs correctly.

    In game terms, you could "assume" the turret is there, unless you want the modeling challenge?
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Another draft, working on the firing arcs.

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    This color scheme should only have the dorsal and ventral arcs, based on what images I can find. Comments?
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Is there a source for the lateral firing arcs 1 & 2 because I would have thought that they would be wider? Maybe 60 degrees each?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naharaht View Post
    Is there a source for the lateral firing arcs 1 & 2 because I would have thought that they would be wider? Maybe 60 degrees each?
    I don't have a source, other than pictures and drawings.

    The waist guns probably should have wider arcs. I figure perhaps 3:30 to 5:30 and 6:30 to 8:30? I don't know exactly how the guns were mounted, nor how much room the gunner(s) had.
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    @OldGuy59
    Great!

    Aren't you planning some "winter" camo? I have one non-painted Ju52 model waiting for some winter inspiration...

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    @OldGuy59
    Great!

    Aren't you planning some "winter" camo? I have one non-painted Ju52 model waiting for some winter inspiration...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cartas View Post
    @OldGuy59
    Great!

    Aren't you planning some "winter" camo? I have one non-painted Ju52 model waiting for some winter inspiration...
    Crazy individual that I am, I want to do all the above planes, which includes two winter camos.

    One of my Li-2s (WWII Allied Transport Plane Album) was done in the improvised white over-paint like this one (Official Lisunov Li-2 (1-200) Painting Thread), and that technique will work well for Carl's plane above. The green spot plane is an easy possibility, too.

    The desert camo should be done for variety, too.

    I have almost completed Joaquin's SCW scheme, but am having problems matching color and design. Almost there.
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    And I have a three color jig-saw puzzle pattern I really want to try, but that's really off the deep end, cause no-one will paint it on this forum (unless they are crazier than I am).

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    (This photo is good enough to "cut&paste" directly into a card, and actually look good?)

    Reining in the insanity, I will complete the SCW job, and additionally do one winter and the desert camo. That will be five sets, as there are management cards to come, as well. Crew position suggestions?
    Last edited by OldGuy59; 09-16-2014 at 08:20.
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Mike,
    I saw that one of Czech Wing members (probably Michal, but Dan-Sam should know who exactly) showed me that painted Ju 52 Zvezda model!
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    "We do not stop playing when we get old, but we get old when we stop playing."

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGuy59 View Post
    Crazy individual that I am, I want to do all the above planes, which includes two winter camos.

    ...

    And I have a three color jig-saw puzzle pattern I really want to try, but that's really off the deep end, cause no-one will paint it on this forum (unless they are crazier than I am).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightbomber View Post
    Mike,
    I saw that one of Czech Wing members (probably Michal, but Dan-Sam should know who exactly) showed me that painted Ju 52 Zvezda model!
    So, this is a commercially available plane? You can buy it painted like this? Cool.
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Mike, you're going very well.
    I warmly thank you for your efforts.

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    Mike, you're going very well.
    I warmly thank you for your efforts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGuy59 View Post

    And I have a three color jig-saw puzzle pattern I really want to try, but that's really off the deep end, cause no-one will paint it on this forum (unless they are crazier than I am).

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    (This photo is good enough to "cut&paste" directly into a card, and actually look good?)
    I have a JU52 that needs to be painted for the desert... Seems like a cool challenge to do this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGuy59 View Post
    So, this is a commercially available plane? You can buy it painted like this? Cool.
    No, he said he had painted the Zvezda model like that. I was struck by the similarity between this picture and his model!
    <img src=http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=2554&dateline=1409073309 border=0 alt= />
    "We do not stop playing when we get old, but we get old when we stop playing."

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    Sorry, but squirrels got in the way of this project (PMs for custom cards and the "General Overview of Mini's - WWI"). Besides, I was hoping someone would tell me how many crew were in this plane, as I can't find anything that definitively says the actual number. The best I've found is 3 (pilot, co-pilot, radioman). How many gunners? Which models/versions had waist guns, and did they have a gunner for each gun?

    I just don't know, guys. Management cards are not possible without some assistance.
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Nice job Kevin.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Default My Ju-52's for 1/100 scale Converted for SCW...

    Hi!

    I found some older pics of one of my conversion projects and just wanted to add them here.

    I need to finish both with Spatz and detail plus more markings, but you get the idea.

    I am doing 4 of these in 1/200 scale now and will posts pics when actually finished

    Thanks for looking!

    FF

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    So, after a very long delay, I have taken up this project, again.

    I haven't found any new info on the crew positions of the Ju-52, so I'm just gonna start guessing. This is my guess for the Spanish Civil War version. Ares doesn't put all the crew positions on, if they weren't critical to fighting the plane. I don't completely agree, as there were many cross-trained individuals on a bomber. However, if we want cards for planes, I have to try to stick to Ares plan. Here is the management card for the 3m g4e:

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    Oh. Did I mention that I finally bought a WGS bomber? I now have an He-111 H-3 as a template, along with the rules! So, now I will be going through all the cards I've produced, and fixing them. Wish me luck.

    [Edit: Redid the card, after trying to do the next few versions, with more gunners.]
    Last edited by OldGuy59; 07-23-2015 at 00:19.
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Good Luck Mike, and I await the JU WW2 version with anticipation.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Two more versions, with the same paint scheme. This plane flew in North Africa, but was a 3m g4e, with only the Dorsal gunner:

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    Someone requested this colour scheme with the waist guns, but that is a 3m g5e, so this may not be accurate.

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    Firing arcs are coming...

    PS: One for Rob...
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    Last edited by OldGuy59; 07-31-2015 at 23:25.
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    First thanks for the rapid response Mike.
    Second, thanks for the Med and N Africa versions. That should cover all eventualities out there.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Great job Mike. Any chance of the gun arcs for Med/Africa?

    Neil
    See you on the Dark Side......

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    Redone Management version of the Balkans plane above:

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    Background of a town north of Bucharest, courtesy of Google Earth.

    PS: I messed up the versions. The 3m g4e didn't have waist guns. So, the management card doesn't indicate them. The above Firing Arc card will be appropriately amended, soon.

    And one for Joaquim, at long last. I hope I was close on the unit:

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    [EDIT: Background redone with Belgorod, near Kursk, Russia. Courtesy of Google Earth]

    And a winter version of the same plane:

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    Last edited by OldGuy59; 07-31-2015 at 23:36.
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    What a great collection of Ju52s on this thread! I tip my hat to all of you!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Officer Kyte View Post
    From one extreme to another. The heat the sand and the flies.

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    Rob.
    So, Rob...

    What unit were these planes from, and where did you find the colour scheme? I can't find anything online that comes close to this.

    The best I can find is:
    G6+ KGrzbV.2; 101, 102, 103, 104+105 (2nd, 101st, 102nd, 103rd, 104th+105th Special Duties Battle Group), TG 4 (4th Transport Group), 1st Air Transport Group (Maritime)

    R = 7th Squadron (a white letter to the left)

    So, I can't seem to sort out what would go on a card, nor where this plane might have been located. Trepani, Sicily was an airfield that some Bf-110s were photographed at, but not Ju-52s, so it could have been a visitor.

    One of my new sources of info: The Luftwaffe, 1933-45

    PS: My best guess:

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    [Edit: Added the propellers. D'oh!]

    Using this source : Luftwaffe Wiki
    Last edited by OldGuy59; 07-31-2015 at 23:49.
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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