Did we? Sorry cant recall that at all, but then again it doesn't surprise me I don't remember.Originally Posted by David Manley
chris, we played at least one game at Cribbs with one, and I think one at Iron Acton
Fair enough I have seen a Snipe in play
I've been using Snipes as stand-ins for Pups. Does that count?
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Now I can pay a fair price for a miniature. While some have 5,6,7 copies of the same plane, has no other like me.
Last month I managed to find a box De Luxe revised in Italian which cost me about $ 180.00. Still want a Fokker D VII because I do not have, and another Albatros D III.
A Snipe is the Soviet Workers and Peasants Air Force trump card in the 1920-22 scenarios. Goes well against D.VIIs, though we tend to use unofficial miniatures a lot - Junkers DIs, Dolphins, and so on.
Personally, I prefer a Camel due to my style of play.
Just make sure to have some Royal Guardsmen music for background
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlmB2ypAxL4
I hope they darken the paint on Rickenbacker - make it look more like the one at the Air Force Museum. I'd happily to pick up another one then.
Also, the struts on the Albatri are supposed to be turned right-way-'round, so I'll probably get all of them too.
Agreed on Rickenbacker - the colours on the original one are terrible; the Luke one is much closer to correct, so I hope they do fix that....
Having just read Osprey's USAS First Persuit Group, I feel a lot of Spad repaints coming on, so if the new Rickenbaker is a more true rendition, I can see the original becoming some other pilot's chariot post haste.
Note to self: Must get a Salmson to escort.
Rob.
Yes it's rather a good book, that one. I keep looking at the Camels too....
"I get the impression Ares are looking at working in pairs rather than fours in future"
it would be good if they could think in ones - and keep a fairly constant supply of all the models available, and not only in the US.
That would make me very happy indeed, wearing both my punter hat and my stockist one, but I fear it's pure fantasy land....I really wish they could figure out time on target global release dates like Battlefront and suchlike though....
Other companies can do it. I don't see why Ares can't do it in time.but I fear it's pure fantasy land
Maybe - time will tell....
I am an eternal optimist
I'm reliably informed I'm not....
(Actually the epithet "misanthropic hermit" has been used, with impressive insight, I felt....
You're obviously well loved, Dom. The "hermit" part is much nicer than I usually get...I'm reliably informed I'm not....
(Actually the epithet "misanthropic hermit" has been used, with impressive insight, I felt....
/Niclas
Great news!
Gonna go against the grain here... I woulda preferred a new Brit pilot rather than an immediate Barker repop in place of Kissenberth, who I'd still like to see someday. And while Madon and Coadou certainly warrant a place in the game, I personally would've preferred planes that were already on cards. HOWEVER, in medical terms the game is a patient that did flatline on the table but Dr. Angiolino and his team were able to get a pulse and brain activity back--we're out of the thickest part of the jungle but not out into even the woods let alone the clear yet, and the most important thing is to get product, ANY product with quality, onto the shelves and such trivia are matters for after Ares has reestablished the game as a success.
I for one will probably be buying one of everything... though THIS time, when their turns come I hope the Pfalz D.III and D.IIIa will be split into two different releases with a corrected wing on the IIIa.
I mean, I'd be fine with some planes being only offered direct or through BoardGameGeek or as other exclusives, as long as they still had worldwide availability, and that might be the niche for oddballs like Kissenberth and other captures, and the Russian Revolution-timeframe aircraft.
Last edited by Diamondback; 08-21-2012 at 16:15.
^I complete agree with your sentiment about the Camel repaint. I would be a lot happier that we are not getting the Kissenberth if it meant that we were getting a new allied scheme in its place. I mean, my entire opposition to the Kissenberth scheme was basically based on it taking up a spot that we really need to get a new British/allied paint scheme.
Last edited by greenalfonzo; 08-21-2012 at 21:13.
Kev, it's a rare occasion that we see eye-to-eye--hit the bar, amigo, this one's on me...
Though I do think we eventually need to see reprints on everything, even if the least-popular scheme from each original print became a limited-run Ares Direct Exclusive--as long as they don't get into One Year Only Convention Exclusives like WhizzKids did... and I think a rocket-equipped Alb. D.III variant would be a dandy companion to the Parseval-Sigsfeld in a "Balloon Busters II" pack and a just as good balance to the Nieuport 16 from original BB.
Minor problem there - the Germans didn't use rockets....
As for Barker, I agree another "new" British model would've been better, but presume it would've delayed the release further getting a prototype done and approved. Given that, Barker's the better option, especially as his is by far the easiest to repaint - go over the rear fuselage stripes and tail fin in a suitable green and you effectively have a blank canvas to work from. (Much easier than Elwood, where the extra wing markings are a chore for repaints - you end up needing to repaint the whole wing, and then replace the roundels.)
Dom, good points... I had recalled something about a few German experiments with captured and reverse-engineered Le Prieurs that they decided not to go into full Prod on in one of the Osprey books, and thought one of the few test birds might fill the niche. Guess I figured if the Whinging Fanboys get their prototype and never-finished Wunderwaffen in other games for WWII like Axis & Allies giving them the complete VAPORWARE H-class battleships and never-finished Graf Zeppelin aircraft-carrier for "game balance", then something that was at least prototyped and tested if ultimately rejected for full-scale deployment might be fair game here too. Then again, that may just be me trying to barf up as many ideas as I can to try to help keep the game going as long as money's available for new development... eventually, we ARE going to run out of new subjects to include.
Minor quibble: personally, I wish they would've traded 152/17 and 425/17's places for the MvR's, and changed 425 to the later Balkankreuz insignia it wore at the time of MvR's death, make that Duel Pack a more accurate representation of a historical event. BUT, if we had a distinct new mini issued for every time an ace had a plane repainted, or every plane they flew... heck, the Baron accounted for an entire flight worth of Dr.I's all by himself if not more.
Last edited by Diamondback; 08-22-2012 at 11:27.
... operationally on any large scale.
In 'Albatros D.III' (Grosz, Albatros 2003) there is reference that 'in his autobiography Rudolf Nebel tells of mounting double 'stove-pipes' under the wings of his fighter from which to fire a salvo of four signal rockets (obtained from German pioneer troops) at enemy aircraft. Nebel claimed that his initial experiments whilst flying a Halberstadt fighter gained him two victories, but when mounted on an Albatros D.III, one rocket exploded prematurely. Nebel, badly burned, barely escaped with his life and was prohibited from performing further trials.'
This experimentation, apparently witnessed by the future Reichsmarschall Goering, is speculated as one of the possible naming origins for the WWII Nebelwerfer.
There is also a lengthy quotation from Nebel on the use of rockets with his Halberstadt in 'Halberstadt Fighters' (Grosz, Albatros 1996).
Last edited by Baldrick62; 08-22-2012 at 12:22. Reason: sp
- Hey, we have these contraptions of plywood and doped canvas, right? That we propel at great speed high in the air, right? without parachutes, right? Why don't we stick something that generates intense heat on them, in a contraption that hasn't been tested - And see what happens?
- Yeah, man - sounds like a great idea!
/Niclas
Step away from the Aquavit, step away from the Aquavit!
As the Top Gear lads would put it, "what could possibly go wrong...?"
Are you telling me that I can't smoke my cigar in the cockpit of my Albatros D.Va?
Of course you can. But only once....
Don't be boring Balders!
No, no -- _Top Gear_ is "How Hard Can It Be?".As the Top Gear lads would put it, "what could possibly go wrong...?"
Followed about ten seconds later by "That's Not Gone Well".
(And I want Kissenberth's plane.)
Isn't it "Oh, c**k"?
/Niclas
It is a very straightforward repaint from a basic Camel if you really want one.(And I want Kissenberth's plane.)
And a very good one, David!
Presuming, of course, one has the equipment and talent to repaint -- of which I am sadly lacking. :P
I have the American Aces book and I see a number of repaints from the prints they show.
DO we know if the new MVR will be the all red one? It looks like the one in the duel package is the red and green
Nicely done David, only wish I had the skill.
for what I can see the duel packages are a re-print of the Revised Deluxe Set: Luke's SPAD vs. Baumer's Albatross, MvR's Red&Green Triplane vs. Brown's Camel
The individual planes seems to be re-print of Original Deluxe and original series 1 plus the new skins... so my money is on a re-print of the all red Triplane.
Last edited by Gallo Rojo; 08-24-2012 at 09:05.
Just give it a try! all it is needed for most re-paints is a couple of small brushes and paintings
Yep, we are getting the all red one as the reprint and the red-green one in the dual packs.
So, can I claim a little credit for suggesting this idea about a year ago?
How about a "Dogfight" set with just two planes (reasonably ballanced like a Dr I and a Camel), a stripped down set of rules (like the little book in the Balloon box), a few counters (Fire, Smoke, Jam), a damage deck, and two of the smaller (Flight of the Giants style) boards. If you could keep the whole thing under $35 with actual miniatures, or $20 with just the cards I think you'd have a real winner of an intorductory set there, that might draw a lot more people to the game.
I've got two Snipes "in the box" and haven't used them yet. I think the gamers should try and match somewhat historical opponents. What's the point of taking a Fokker EIII against a Snipe? Historically it didn't happen and it probably wouldn't be much fun for the fellow flying the EIII. Lloyd
No that's a perfect match-up for the E.III player - 9 times out of 10 you'll lose badly, and can simply shrug and say "what did you expect?". 1 time out of 10 you'll take the Snipe out, and you're a piloting God....
Now why didn't I think of that? Think I'll start flying EIIIs, "It isn't me, it's this lousy plane!" LloydNo that's a perfect match-up for the E.III player - 9 times out of 10 you'll lose badly, and can simply shrug and say "what did you expect?". 1 time out of 10 you'll take the Snipe out, and you're a piloting God....
This is sort of the approach I took when I was playing snooker - As I couldn't be bother to train enough to be good at the regular shots, I always went for the impossible shot. So the (very) few competition games I won a left the opponent truly awestruck.No that's a perfect match-up for the E.III player - 9 times out of 10 you'll lose badly, and can simply shrug and say "what did you expect?". 1 time out of 10 you'll take the Snipe out, and you're a piloting God....
/Niclas
I've been cannibalizing Snipes for spare-parts for scratch-building models (until I found out about shapeways)
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