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    Those look great Brian, nice work indeed.

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    Excellent result, Brian!
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabba View Post
    Hello,
    I was wondering could anyone suggest the best match in the Vallejo paint range for the underside of the wings and fuselage of RFC SE5a's. I've seen 70.887 Brown Violet mentioned for the upper surfaces?
    Thanks in advance

    Tony.
    I have been recommended Iraqui sand.
    I'll be giving that a go with mine when I get them together.
    Best regards
    Si2

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    First attempt at a Red Eagle Miniatures model.

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    Tony.

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    My word you took on a difficult paint job there Tony.
    It looks great, and I'm sure will go on to serve your Squadron well.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Great painting, all of you!

  8. #108

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    Very nice SE5a!
    Well done on the assembly, as well as the paint job!
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

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    SE5a number two, another 56 sqn aircraft and the two together.

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    Both Red Eagle Miniatures

    Tony.
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    Tony, when I click on your above links I get Invalid Attachment pop-up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Chum View Post
    Tony, when I click on your above links I get Invalid Attachment pop-up
    Me too!

  13. #113

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    Correct. The attachments don't show up at present. There is no link to your original pictures Tony.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Quote Originally Posted by gully_raker View Post
    Me too!
    Edited post hopefully working now.

    Tony.

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    Oh yes!
    And well worth waiting for Tony.
    A very nice rendition.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    "I can see clearly now, the "Invalid Attachment pop-up" is gone.........."

    Excellent work once again
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

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    More nice work Tony, I really like the paint scheme (red fuselage).......

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    Great SE5a:s Tony

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    Last and by no means least....
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    and all three together ready for action this Friday at New Buckenham Historical Wargamers.

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    Tony.

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    Great work, Tony! The Handley Page will have a powerful escort.

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    I wish you the best of luck using them Tony.
    They look splendid as a Flight.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

  22. #122

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    Very sharp Tony. Who flew the red one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teaticket View Post
    Very sharp Tony. Who flew the red one?
    S.E.5a C1149 ("W") was flown by Captain Duncan William Grinnell-Milne MC DFC & Bar of No 56 Sqn. He was shot down flying a B.E.2c in December 1915 and captured, eventually escaping in April 1918. After retraining as a scout pilot, he returned to combat in Sep or Oct 1918 (1st claim was 5 Oct, a balloon) and made a flight commander on 21 October. He was credited with 4 D.VIIs prior to the Armistice, achieving "Ace" status. Post-Armistice he had his SE "Schweinhund" painted red and flew it until January 1919.

    Grinnell-Milne was CO No 56 Sqn from 17/12/18 until 5/2/19.

    Post-war he wrote a very good memoir about his flying career, Wind in the Wires (1933), which I recommend highly. I've not checked the Forum for a review... I will, and write a review if one is absent. He wrote another autobiography, An Escaper's Log, in 1926. This details his time in captivity, but I can't comment on it as it's a title I have yet to acquire.
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    So the red fuselage is post war. I was surprised to see a British plane so brightly colored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teaticket View Post
    So the red fuselage is post war. I was surprised to see a British plane so brightly colored.
    Yep, post-war. Some No 60 Sqn aircraft bore flight colors (red, blue, or yellow) on spinner, engine cowling, and/or wheel covers... this started with the unit's Moranes, and was intended to help avoid misidentification as an eindecker.

    Some of the Neiuports that replaced the Moranes bore similar colors, as did the unit's S.E.5s (many of which they inherited from No 56 Sqn). The colored cowlings fell out of favor in 1917, however, leaving only the wheel covers so colored.
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    Aircraft cards for my SE5a's

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    Great cards to go with your wonderful planes!

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    Indeed! Excellent cards. I especially like the Albert Ball one of course. Him being a Nottingham lad.
    Where did you source the colour scheme for his aircraft Tony?
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Officer Kyte View Post
    Indeed! Excellent cards. I especially like the Albert Ball one of course. Him being a Nottingham lad.
    Where did you source the colour scheme for his aircraft Tony?
    Rob.
    Rob,
    Found it on Google images, there is a print that comes up and a Corgi model. Got a bit concerned when someone else had the scheme as a 60 Sqn aircraft but further invest shows the airframe was used by both squadrons. I hope Corgi and the aircraft print company got it right.

    Tony.

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    Thanks for the reply Tony.
    I had never seen a photo of his SE in anything but standard paint scheme, but then pictures of his SE are in very short supply.
    I am still a bit skeptical about it, but if you like the scheme, what the heck!
    Just enjoy flying him and don't get him killed please.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabba View Post
    Rob,
    Found it on Google images, there is a print that comes up and a Corgi model. Got a bit concerned when someone else had the scheme as a 60 Sqn aircraft but further invest shows the airframe was used by both squadrons. I hope Corgi and the aircraft print company got it right.
    Tony.
    Royal Aircraft Factory S.E.5 A8898 last used by Ball in 56 Sqn in May17, he's credited with 5 victories in it; it was also used by Frank Soden in 60 Sqn, he's credited with two (ooc) victories in it in Nov17. So the machine moved about, whether it had that paint scheme in 56 sqn when Ball flew it I haven't found out for sure but it certainly did have it in 60 sqn. There is a B/W photo of it in 'Profile 103 RAF SE5' as well as a colour plate. Described as the first of the second batch of SE5 to reach 56 Sqn & pictured in that livery after its transfer to 60 Sqn. Seems it went to 60 Sqn in July 17.
    In 'Aviation Elite Units 41 - No60 Sqn RFC/RAF' there is a colour plate in which this machine is yellow, where it is red in others, and attributed to Capt K. Caldwell Sept 17 ?! So I now have no idea which is correct.
    Some further digging suggests the machine was painted just before it left 56 by its 'Kiwi' pilot at the time F J Horrell, hence the fern on the tail.
    Bottom line - Ball flew it, it looks great, have fun playing with it.

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Here is my take on Arthur Rhys Davids SE5a (via Shapeways)
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    Roundels by 144 Direct, other decals courtesy of my HP4630.

    Two coats of white primer followed by two coats of color.

    Colors are Vallejo Brown Violet 70.887 and Iraqi Sand 70.819. The acrylics cover well, brush on smoothly, and leave no brush strokes. Highly recommended.

    A little Valspar clear flat to seal it all in.

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    Another good looking plane Bob, thanks for posting.

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    Hi Bob, whose Shapeways design is that one? (I know it's not mine because I haven't yet done an SE5a, so this isn't a self-serving question.) I know there are several varieties of SE5a available.

    You've got a good hand for the detailed work.

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    Nice looking kite there Bob.

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    Lovely SE5a there Bob!
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Helmut View Post
    Lovely SE5a there Bob!
    Agreed....nice work mate!

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    I share my work on two SE5as. (When I showed my Halberstadt D.II, one Forum member said that he was looking forward to my other attempts. That's these two.)
    They came attached to one another.
    When I looked in books to determine colours, sometimes the SE5a looked brown and sometimes it looked green. So with the colours I had available to me, I decided to make one green and the other brown. That way when playing WoG it is easier to distinguish the two planes.
    The close up photographs make them look a bit rough. (If my eyesight was better and my hand steadier I would have liked them to be cleaner, sharper and smoother!) However, when we are playing WoG, they look fine.
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    Good effort Doug, always great to see more SEs on the board. The colour used by the RFC and RAF was called 'PC10'. When first applied it generally looked green (there were variations in the mix) but as it weathered it faded to a brown colour.

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    well, after many arduous trials and tribulations i finished the valom se5as i was working on for my friend and myself (via blatant and shameless bribery). theyre far from perfect, but theyre done. i never been so glad to get a project off my table. Click image for larger version. 

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    Well you certainly made a fine job of them Phillip.
    Rob.
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    Very nice builds - well done!
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

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    They turned out very nicely, PM Which is whose?

    All the best,
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    Very sharp Phillip. I really like the American, wish they had used markings like that!

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    Phillip they look great. I have never had any luck with the Valom kits.


    Here's to them what are like us. Damn few and they're all dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt56 View Post
    They turned out very nicely, PM Which is whose?

    All the best,
    Matt

    mick mannocks se5a 17 sqn, march 1918
    and 94 aero sqn usas austin tex 1918-20

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teaticket View Post
    Very sharp Phillip. I really like the American, wish they had used markings like that!


    thanks!
    they did use markings like this (except for the few purple embellishments to personalize it), i just cant find out if they used it overseas right now. will have to dig through the books when im better rested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhodie80 View Post
    Phillip they look great. I have never had any luck with the Valom kits.


    i had zero luck with them either. it was pure stubbornness and dogged determination. ill never do another.

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    Nice to know whose planes they are marked for, but I actually meant which is yours and which is your buddy's...

    Good to see you at Dawn Patrol today!

    All the best,
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