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    Last week I took a chance and purchased a Mitsubishi Ki-46-III 'Dinah' from the Furuta 'chocolate egg' series miniatures for $7 with free shipping here: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/100-Furut...item518c56a7d2 There were still four left last time I looked.

    It turned out to be a good deal as it is very close to 1/200 scale (miniature wingspan is 76mm, so precisely 1/194). The aircraft has green plastic undersides so a coat of aluminum paint will be needed, but otherwise add a couple of magnets and a Litko stand and Imperial Japan has a serviceable high-altitude reconnaissance aircraft. A small number were also converted into bomber interceptors and ground attack aircraft, armed with 20mm cannon in the nose.

    I will be using this as a reconnaissance version in my upcoming Defense of Darwin 1943 scenarios.

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    My unofficial WGS statistics for the aircraft are:

    Damage points: 18 (no crew armour or self sealing tanks, the 'Dinah' is a lightly built racer)
    Manouver deck: G* (cards 1-6, 11, 13-18) (max speed 604kph)
    Armament: Short -/A, Long -/A (trainable 7.7mm MG in rear cockpit, same arc as Aichi D3A 'Val')
    Top altitude: 11 (10500m)
    Climb rate: 5 (7.4 m/s)

    As it is a twin engined aircraft with a wingspan of less than 20 metres (14.7m) I use a slightly larger Litko custom base - standard length but 66mm wide - same as I use for my Bf110's, but a 'Val' base would be sufficient.
    Last edited by Carl_Brisgamer; 05-18-2012 at 05:27.

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    Where is the best place to get stands for these?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redstarny View Post
    Where is the best place to get stands for these?
    You can make stands for these planes. For myself, I modified instructions from clipper1801 to make custom bases. His instructions, with pictures, are at http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...highlight=base

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    I purchase mine from Litko Game accessories http://www.litko.net/categories/Flig...me-System/WoW/

    You can buy standard bases or order custom bases here http://www.litko.net/BMaker/

    Cheers,

    Carl

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    Cool - I like the skull and bones tail markings

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    Thanks for this info. I ordered one and it is a nice little model and assembles quickly. I am going to use a Val stand when I use it for the rear gun. I will likely use Zero cards and the stat provided above. This will be a nice quick game with a chase focus.

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    What length rods do you use? I have an F-Toys Frances and cut the LITKO 3 " rod down so it is not so high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobP View Post
    What length rods do you use? I have an F-Toys Frances and cut the LITKO 3 " rod down so it is not so high.
    Hi Bob,

    I use the 3" rods from Litko, they are about the same height as five pegs.

    Cheers,

    Carl.

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    There's this one too. 1/200 according to all the sources I've seen.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=180832911073

    And 7 of these
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-Furuta-W...item51a04a8b18

    Unfortunately the Blenheim works out as 1/220

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoe Brain View Post
    There's this one too. 1/200 according to all the sources I've seen.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=180832911073

    And 7 of these
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-Furuta-W...item51a04a8b18

    Unfortunately the Blenheim works out as 1/220
    I have also previously bought a Furuta 1/200 Messerschmitt Bf110E. The chunky fuselage ID is a little distracting but not a bad model.

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    There appear to be one or two other models of about the right size in the twin-engined category.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naharaht View Post
    There appear to be one or two other models of about the right size in the twin-engined category.

    I wonder it the twin engine Japanese fighter is close to 1/200, as well as the P-38. Any others?

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    Posted this pic on another thread but here it is for this one.

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    Just beware that this F-Toys FRANCES is 1/144 rather than 1/200 scale.

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    Posted this pic on another thread but here it is for this one.
    The Furuta Dinah is a Ki-46-IIIa, which differed from the earlier models by having more powerful engines necessitating larger engine cowlings and (most noticeably) the cockpit extended to the nose, where previous models had a more conventional 'stepped' appearance. To improve performance, the Ki-46-IIIa was unarmed, with the observer's gun omitted to save weight. The specialised Ground Attack (IIIb) and Bomber Destroyer (III KAI) versions retained the larger engine cowling of the Ki-46-III, but reverted back to the conventional cockpit appearance of the -I and -II.
    http://www.historyofwar.org/articles...shi_ki-46.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wholenineyards View Post
    I wonder it the twin engine Japanese fighter is close to 1/200, as well as the P-38. Any others?
    P-38 is 1/144 according to several sources. Blenheim IV is 1/220 (Z gauge) according to one source.
    "Twin Engined Japanese Fighter" is a Nakajima J1NC/R, the recon version, but very close to the J1N1-Sa nightfighter - just add 2 barrels. Scale is 1/200 according to 2 sources.

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    I am aware that the F-Toys are 1/144 scale but gives you and option to have different planes in another scale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobP View Post
    I am aware that the F-Toys are 1/144 scale but gives you and option to have different planes in another scale.
    Yes, but others reading this thread may not have been. Read post #13, followed by post #14 and draw your own conclusions.

    Surely that's why there's a separate forum for 1/144 WWII - http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/for...le-Dawn-of-War.
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    I have one of those Dinah`s in my collection. I will give it to the first 1:200 player i personally meet. The P-38 is not 144 scale it is closer to 1:200. Here is a side by side comparison with one of my 144 scale Minicraft P-38`s.


    Rich
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    Richard, can you measure the P-38 and tell me exactly the scale or give me the measures so that I can scale it?
    I play with 1/200 ww2 scale and I'm looking for two Lightnings.

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    A place to search and see. No shipping costs, a good thing. I wish they had the planes better measured, all info you might have will help:

    http://www.micronationshop.com/servl...nes/Categories

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    Joaquim

    These were released original in plastic a EGG with apiece of chewing gum stuffed n also. They were made to ft the egg not to any scale. I am at a convention and left my ruler at home. I will see if i can get a measurement on it. If not i will check it when i get home.



    Rich

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    I bought a Furuta Dinah and a P-38 on eBay. They arrived this morning. The P-38 has a wingspan of 81mm. I calculate this as being 1/196 scale, which I think is probably good enough. I had previously bought two Me110's (as shown above) and a Nakajima J1N1 Gekko (Irving). The Nakajima has a wingspan of 83mm, which I calculate makes it 1/205 scale-again not too bad a fit.

    How to use the Nakajima is a problem. it was originally designed as a long range escort fighter with a forward firing armament of one 20mm cannon and two 7.7mm machine guns with four more 7.7mm machine guns in two rearward firing remotely controlled dorsal barbettes. Sadly these were difficult to control, they reduced the aircraft's performance and made it sluggish to handle, so this version was abandoned. A lighter reconnaissance version, the J1N1-C had only a rearward firing manual 13mm machine gun. The Nakajima was mainly used as a nightfighter with obliquely firing 20mm cannon typically two upwards and two downwards, although some only had the two upwards firing ones and some had three upwards firing ones.

    In a 'Wings fo Glory' setting I suppose it could be used with the forward firing armament and no rear barbettes (or if your opponent is generous give it a rearward firing manual 13mm machine gun) or in its reconnaissance version and we can wait for some night-fighting rules to be developed.

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    Joaquim

    I had a friend check my P-38 Saturday morning and he came to the same conclusion!



    Rich

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    Thanks, Richard.
    I might buy two if I can make them send it to Portugal. It has been a struggle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naharaht View Post
    How to use the Nakajima is a problem. it was originally designed as a long range escort fighter with a forward firing armament of one 20mm cannon and two 7.7mm machine guns with four more 7.7mm machine guns in two rearward firing remotely controlled dorsal barbettes. Sadly these were difficult to control, they reduced the aircraft's performance and made it sluggish to handle, so this version was abandoned. A lighter reconnaissance version, the J1N1-C had only a rearward firing manual 13mm machine gun. The Nakajima was mainly used as a nightfighter with obliquely firing 20mm cannon typically two upwards and two downwards, although some only had the two upwards firing ones and some had three upwards firing ones.
    First model: Has four 0.30-cal.s aft, but only gets long-range fire effects at short range, and cannot hit at long range. May not perform "steep" maneuvers, or slow-speed turns.
    Recon model: Has 1 0.50-cal. aft; may perform steep maneuvers and slow-speed turns.
    Night-fighter model: May only fire if overlapping another plane; fires as at Long range.

    That's just a first approximation, tho'.

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    Joaquim

    here is a link you might check. He has 144 scale and some of the Futura items!

    Rich

    http://www.armoryhobby.com/shop/

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    Chris

    I have a 144 scale Dinah kit i built last year. Yes using it properly would be as a night fighter or late war ramming attacks!

    Rich

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    Has anyone bought a Furuta Kyushu J7W Shinden model and measured it, please? Is it approximately 1:200 scale?



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