Depends on what you're carrying.
/Niclas
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A few weeks sounds pretty darn good :thumbsup:
Gonna be a sweet surprise to see a box with my preorders sitting on the table for me when i get home one of these nights
If this is true I'll be pleasantly surprised.
Still, this only for the US, I guess. We'll probably have to wait a while longer.
Don't think I'll be ordering from overseas this time around. I'm as desperate for these as I was for the bombers - And in retrospect it seems a bit silly to transport the stuff back and forth from half way around the world and having to pay extra taxes (customs) for th trouble.
/Niclas
Don't feel too bad Niclas. They look a little "cheesy" from the pix I've seen. At least you can get the scoop from North America and get just what you want/need.
If my experience with the WW1 bombers is anything to go by it was cheaper to order from the US and take the shipping charges than order from a UK supplier. I don't know if this is the result of Ares pricing or UK suppliers over charging, or some other reason, but it is rather galling.
A bit strange this. I was under the impression that games were cheaper in the UK, than in Sweden - Even imagined that this was my own experience showed as well. But the bombers would have cheaper for me to by at my LGS than what I wound up paying when I ordered from the US.
/Niclas
Great update from Ares!
Great news indeed!Quote:
The long awaited WW1 Wings of Glory Airplane Packs are going to hit the stores in a few days: following their arrival at the Ares Games’ warehouse in the U.S. early this week, this new release for the World War 1 version of Wings of Glory are now shipping to North American distributors, and will be available in US and Canadian stores starting on August 6th. In Europe, they should be available in stores in the 2nd half of August.
Ares, WWI planes?Do out soon, Naw, not gonna believe it ill zI see it.. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ;-)
James
Good news.
I was a bit out with my estimate of the 31st July though.
Rob.
But just in time for my B-day!
Gna :hmm: why is there such a delay in Europe, I mean Andrea and his Company Ares Games are located in Europe. I'm feeling discriminated ;) In Germany the Bombers aren't in the shops now :( I think it's such a delay because of the Translation and I think all the new Products (Bombers, Series 5 and Rules and Accessories Pack) will realeased at once, but I keep waiting and waiting and waiting... :D
Once again the legions of European customers are treated as second class citizens......
I think that we are mostly treated as the second most important market - Probably because we are...
/Niclas
Not to mention the European retailers, who yet again get to find that by the time they can get their hands on the product, half of their potential customers have already succumbed to (entirely understandable) impatience and ordered from US sellers, especially as some of the latter are able to sell for less than the *wholesale* price this side of the pond, making them competitive even with trans-Atlantic shipping added on. Sorry if I sound jaded, but wearing my retail hat I'm seriously wondering if I'd be wiser not bothering this time....
I don't think Ares are doing themselves any favours by neglecting the European market.
I have already sourced two Gothas from elsewhere (Shapeways) and some early scouts so the number of new Areas planes I buy will be quite small.
Don
I agree Don.
I am getting my scouts from the U.S.
I don't want to risk missing out.
I shall only source my repaints from the U.K.
Rob.
Frankly I dont know how the majority of WOG players in europe gets their planes from. Overseas order? Preordering? Waiting till they are in the stores? Would be interesting to find that out...
But in general Im not happy with overoptimistic release dates. Rather something more realistic.
Does anyone knows what caused the delay? Shipping problems? Production delays? I remember seeing the bombers packs pretty early on the ares site (with the claim these are from the actual series and no prototypes). So... questions over questions...
As far as I know (but I am not into production nor distribution...)
The ship to USA and the ship to Europe sail at the same time from China - as soon as the prioduct is ready to leave. Then there are differen travel distances, different weather, different customs, different distribution within USA than within Europe. All this give different times to shelves in USA and Europe, but unpredictable and difficult to avoid. There can be an advantage for USa or not, it depends from so many factorst that I'd say that's almost random.
Thanks for clarifying Andrea.
Andrea, if the situation with the distribution of the bombers is anything to go by, I doubt European shops are going to see the series 5 planes this year.
It matters not what is causing it, the situation is bad and it is a downwards spiral. The shops do not have the goods long after release, the understandably impatient customers get the goods elsewhere (USA anyone?), the shops learn about this and are even more hesitant to try to sell WoG stuff in fear of it staying on the shelves. Rinse and repeat... :(
Sorry, but I've got to disagree there - I've *never* known any Wings Of War or Wings Of Glory release make it to Britain first - the only question is just how many weeks later we get it. (WW2 Series 3 was 3 weeks, the WW1 bombers were fully 6 weeks after America, and even then the initial supply was limited.) Maybe the situation's sometimes better on the continent (although it doesn't seem to have been with the WWI bombers) but here we absolutely always get things substantially later than America, and the history of delayed releases and pent-up demand means more and more people are buying direct from the States as soon as they can, rather than waiting for them to eventually turn up at domestic retailers.
And then there are the shops who have learned from Series 1, and stockpile stuff to sell on ebay to foolish americans :)
Which means they will get the scouts/fighters and disregard the bombers and observation types. Gotta get the stuff that brings the most profits!
Not sure this actually hurts Ares' bottom line at all. They make the same money off of you wether you buy locally or overseas. The percentage of customers who actually hunt down a differnet manufacturer to source their planes from (Shapeways/Reviresco/etc.) due to the few weeks delay in production reaching Europe has to be vanishingly small. The only people really hurt by the shipping delay are the European local game stores.
Not everyone buys their stuff from online shops around the world. Actually us guys hanging out in the internet AND frequent internatlional boards like these are a minority of the gaming group.
Most will buy their stuff from their LGS or from online shops from their own country. A great percentage aren't even profiecently enough in foreign language to understand the rules other than their own language.
Even in Germany where English is tought as second language you will struggler to find people wo actually are good in understanding English.
Ares has announced on their site that Aug 6 is the American release date.
I think I will beleive it when I see it... It has been such a dam long wait. By the looks of it, the 28 Fokker D-7's I bought at $17 each are a great deal as we likely won't see any reprints of Fokkers for awhile?:confused:
Working on the Top German/Austrian aces of ww1. So far I have 38 customed out of around 80 ish I think. I have most of the rest with decals waiting to go. Sure would be nice to have wog's to purchase to fill spots at reasonable pricing! Fokkers...Fokkers...Fokkers... did I say Fokkers???;)
Glad you like that Al.
From the sounds of the news release the product has cleared customs in the US and is at the Ares warehouse. At this point it is, in all likelihood, being broken down into bulk orders for shipment to the distributors, then to the stores and ready for sale on Aug.6th. From my experience with overeseas shipments, the real wild card in the production/delivery cycle is clearing customs. Unlike personal items being carried thru customs, shipments go to a customs processing center and may take anywhere from two to three days to well over two months sitting in customs "awaiting processing". Reasons are as obscure as possible...good news here is the release from Ares indicates that step is over with and Aug.6th looks golden. Not sure how customs works in Europe for such items but that's the big uncontrollable bump in setting shipping dates...production can be very smooth, then run aground at the customs center...makes life fun. Looking forward to new product...more, more, more. Did I hear someone say Fokkers?
Well, obviously the delays are not a nexus-only problem. The problem I really see is that a lack of interest may occur with the WoW Minis being almost sold out and the WoG releases falling behind.
Smoothening the gap with re-releasing series 1 with new paint-schemes (the Dr. 1 and the Camel simplye are the most famous ww1 planes) would perhaps been the better choice.
Now newbies to WoG will have to start from the 1915/16ish era. Less famous, technologically inferior machines (but of course a delight for people with already a substancial WoW collection).